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    Decline of the western society #2

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun May 21, 2023 1:36 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Bill Cosby???

    You are correct... not a pedo... just a sex criminal... more like Jimmy Savile....

    Actually, that's nonsense as well, the man did not have anything remotely close to a fare trail, the judge has basically hell bent on putting him in jail.
    And the so-called "deposition" was total BS.



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    Post  GarryB Sun May 21, 2023 11:23 pm

    Until the decision is overturned he is a sex criminal.

    A problem with fame and money is that everyone will want to take some of that money from you... that is why the rich build such high fences around their gated communities.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun May 21, 2023 11:36 pm

    GarryB wrote:Until the decision is overturned he is a sex criminal.

    A problem with fame and money is that everyone will want to take some of that money from you... that is why the rich build such high fences around their gated communities.

    As a victim of #MeToo, yes.

    Yes, especially from old gold-diggers, this is why a lot of men today do their booty hunting out of country.

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    Post  GarryB Mon May 22, 2023 1:47 am

    Western society encourages such behaviour.
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue May 23, 2023 11:35 am

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    Post  GarryB Thu May 25, 2023 10:08 am

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    Post  Werewolf Thu May 25, 2023 12:11 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Japan and South Korea have both horrible high level of gender inequality, but these country have negative birth rate. And suddenly the sexism party is dead silent, they don't want to point out the obvious fact that their male supremacy is worthless.

    It is Goddamn hilarious.


    You are taking to much out of context and ignore the other half.
    South Korea and Japan are really funny examples from Asia which no other asian country can claim to be. They are highly westernized countries which try to retain their own culture. In no other societies like in Japan and S. Korean are highly feminine men so idealized and prevalent in all forms of media. Women by nature are repulsed by feminine men as are men repulsed by overly masculine women. Combine that with a ridiculous working culture where most suicides are rooted from with the numbing abundance of opiates in form of consumerism to numb down all your natural ambitions to seek out for a partner and make a family. No amount of asian pride you might have will change human nature. Women everywhere hate and are repulsed by feminine men as everywhere men are repulsed by masculine women.
    Genders will never be equal and are not supposed to be equal. We have both traits that are supposed to be complementary for the role of raising children and making it through life. Why do you think statistics show same sex marriages have higher domestic violence levels than traditional heterosexual couples? The reason is easy - men are hardwired to protect women and we are not able to hurt women unless there are either huge abuse of alcohol, childhood traumas or reason to hit your partner involved.


    flamming_python wrote:

    Problem is AlfaT8, half of what you write might be true, but your solution is essentially to strip freedom of choice from half of humanity, in order to benefit the other half and prevent that "80% of women compete for 20% of the men" behaviour, that you allege is what's responsible for the drop in fertility rates

    I'm sorry but when it comes to sexual dynamics, men and women are equal slaves to it. You might complain that men have it tough competing with each other for the top spots, but look at it from the other side; women are judged more by their physical appearance than their hard work, personalities or other qualities compared to men, and what's more they also have a shorter window during which to find a partner. Men have all the time in the world in comparison; men's attractiveness to women doesn't even peak until about 35 years of age.

    I have to disagree with you on this.
    It is true that all these artificial created problems from such groups affect both male and female but not to equal amount. You can not lie to men with things like you can to women.
    You will never be able to lie to men to have "body positivity" that having 300kg of body weight is something positive about it and you should be loved for every pound and fat role you have. You can´t tell men that they should appreciate all diversity especially if it is against nature and our hardwired behavioral response mechanism like drag queens and trannies are cool especially in class rooms and kindergardens. It´s not men who are cheering for things like that. It is women and due to their nature of being emotional and lack of understanding of dangers and consequences a overly feminine boy will have to face in the world is the reason for it. Men know how brutal society and other men and women are towards them. A normal father would never tell his son, go to school with a purse, pink dress and everyone will cheer for your pride. Most mothers won´t do that, but the amount of females who are so far indoctrinated to absolutely ignore biological factors is so high that you can see it everywhere in the West, everywhere! I see it everywhere. I was horrified to go on campus with the amount of psychopathic woke-ist garbage that is walking here. That is 30% of all western campuses already.

    It is also very easy to offset the dating sphere by simply lying to women that being a prostitute is not a sin and has "Empowering" features for them. All social media is telling women that tiktok, instagram, twitter, snapchat and all the other nonsense. The algorithms are designed that way in the west to show half naked women or even naked women to more audience while in China the reverse is true. They have algorithms to suppress such content and show either educational or social normative underlying videos to its users on tiktok. Here the feminists have successfully indoctrinated women to become prostitutes through onlyfans and make easy money for no work that almost no man with hard work will ever be able to make. Women want someone who makes AT LEAST the same as them or more and men do not want prostitutes as partners. This financial condition is making the 80% -20% dating attraction of women towards men a fact.

    Men are not affected by social media as we are not hardwired biologically to seek out for attention and validation. Men are hardwired to seek out adrenaline (danger) and success (creating, building and destroying). This is human nature and it is set in stone and anecdotal single digit rule-breakers are not changing the big picture.

    flamming_python wrote:
    The drop in birth rates is a result of a whole load of complex dynamics and factors, not just dating patterns and the process of actually finding a partner. Although when it comes to that too, even if most women have unrealistic expectations these days - something with which I'd definitely agree - a lot of men are also limp-fisted soyboy weaklings these days too, or have no fantasies whatsoever in life that they are prepared to put in the work towards. Do you think women want to get pregnant from these types of men? No, they'll always be looking for someone better and will put off having kids until then.
    So it kind of balances out. Be masculine and you've already got a leg above half the competition. Take care of your physique and show you have a good work-ethic, and you've already got a leg above half the competition. How about putting men into camps in order to teach them some basic principles in life, and not letting them out until they get a passing grade; in addition to robbing women of some of their rights?

    What exactly do you blame these two patterns on? Why do you think women in one/two generations became delusional and men soyboy wimpy creatures?
    Most peoples true emotions and feelings can be seen on unmoderated content on all of social media. Women are not fantasizing on soyboy Tokyo Hotel men but want men like Henry Cavill. Men are not attracted to delusional women who are prostitutes, dress like ones and are just radiating masculine energy trying to challenge every men in sight.
    The artificially designed man today is dumb, fat and lazy like portrait by hollywood in all TV series and Movies. Family Guy, Simpson, Modern Family, King of Queens, Two and a Half men and many other modern TV shows or even movies. The man is always an absurd character with no positive characteristics while the mothers and daughters are usually smart, charismatic and save the day for their stupid fathers/husbands. There is also a big trope going through almost all media that children are a burden which only cost money, break things, rob you of your freedom and have zero purpose.

    Growing up in a society where you are getting bombarded with negative images, information and anecdotal stories about family life and a potential partner then you end up trying to avoid it or cherry pick the sex and financial parts of such relationships. Men and women do it. Feminism successfully "obsolved" women from taking responsibility of sleeping around by advocating for child murder (abortion) as a form of contraception, because it just a "clumb of cells". Men also get bombarded now with the reactionary red-pill movement to avoid relationships, kids and everything and just date casually. While women getting told all men are idiots and potential rapists. In such indoctrinated societies harsh measurements are necessary to avoid a cataclysm of society and economy. Long story short, some freedoms need to be cut which are not even severe. Ban all forms of social media, control what kind of TV series and movies are aired to reduce the amount of indoctrination on your society. Change conditions on men and women where women are benefiting from breaking up marriages for no reason and stop punishing men from divorce. They both swore and oath "through thick and thin, good and bad, health and sickness". This should be law and you can not leave your partner in sickness, you can´t leave your partner in financial bad times. Create the right conditions and you will return to a prosperous default where both seek each other to create a future together.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu May 25, 2023 5:15 pm

    @flamming_python

    I just don't care anymore, i know westerners have made egalitarianism their absolute sacred cow, never to be questioned.
    If it may seem like it is an issue then their must be other complex multifaceted machination at play, that's the belief.
    The people who believe this always get lost in the forest of secondary, tertiary and quaternary factors

    And they will never be able to solve the core problem, at best they just demand a "return to tradition", which turns out to not be tradition, but some 1950's leave it to beaver fever dream.
    I call that "post-modern tradition".

    You need the Realpolitik tradition / Realtraditie, which is outright patriarchal.

    Hypergamy is not gonna change, and the more welfare you give to women, the less need for men and by extension less need for family, that's why America has so many single mothers.

    Anyway, i am moving on.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri May 26, 2023 5:19 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:@flamming_python

    I just don't care anymore, i know westerners have made egalitarianism their absolute sacred cow, never to be questioned.

    I do not see anything wrong with egalitarianism.

    What is wrong here is a society with 1% superich manipulate media and politics and the 99% are expendable wage worker with no access to the truth.

    Or a world where the Wall Street billionaires and Washington DC government use brute force to violate the sovereignty of European, Asian and Latino countries and pay no regards to the human rights of the native people there. Which is a very anti-thesis of egalitarianism.

    Surely you will not see egalitarianism until the day you are bullied by a thug.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed May 31, 2023 8:40 am

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