Decline of the western society #2

flamming_python wrote:

ArgentinaGuard wrote:Do not say foolishness. the Holocaust in India was a reality, as were the starvation deaths of Slavic peasants. All that stupidity of the communists gave foundations to the Ukrainian nationalists.
Mao did the same in China with the "leap forward", which ended in disaster. Communists seek compulsive modernization to get closer to their liberal peers. That is why they are the same.

Bud, communists sought modernization because without it you will get crushed.

Imagine what a push-over the Soviet Union would have been in WW2 if Stalin hadn't force-industrialized it in the 30s and achieved GDP per year growth rates of up to 15%.
The Holodomor was due to a large part because of the policy of collectivization. That grain was collected and sold to the West in return for machinery, as the US did not take gold for payment at the time. The machinery was used to industrialize the USSR.
Much is made of how many tanks the Red Army lost in the first 6 months of the war. It had over 20,000 and lost 90% of them, even if most of them were obsolete. But if it wasn't for the same Stalin, the Soviet Union would have never had that many tanks to lose - in fact it simply would have been rolled over. And the Soviet Union certainly wouldn't have had the industries to replace those losses

The communists were also aware that they have to bring prosperity to their own people even if short-term sacrifice was necessary, that's on what support is based on to a large extent as we see in China. The people are fed and content with the rapid modernization of their own country and trust the leadership.

You criticize the enlightenment but to witness a society that didn't get affect by it either directly, or indirectly, you will have to go look at some Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan, Saudi Arabia or Sudan. As a general rule these countries are backwards not only in laws but technological progress too. This is not a coincidence - these issues are linked. And this is what has doomed them to predation at the hands of the countries which did modernize; the same liberals. Who are in fact militaristic and aggressive as all hell, and who could afford such policies as their modernity and forward thinking is what allowed them to gain an advantage and then bulldoze everyone else and keep them down.

They were going to crush the communists? If they were financed by Western bankers to put an end to Czarist Russia, if it was threatened by its anti-Semitic policy.
Tsarist Russia had already embarked on a program of reforms and modernization. The communists, in their narrative, always deny the works of tsarism that built an empire and national state,  millennial, while they barely lasted 90 years. Many communist works fell into disuse but the Trans-Siberian train still continues. Obviously, it wasn't compulsive like the Soviets because they couldn't exterminate millions of people with impunity.On the other hand, you need a balance. Maintaining the tradition is essential. Otherwise you create a Franskenstein with low health. They cannot make a modernization ending with the roots, customs, etc. The best modernization was made by Japan, although the cost was the samurais. But at least they sought to integrate their ancient warrior code into the new Japan. Then, the German and Japanese defeat ended that country

I don't know what to call back and celebrate the subversion of the Enlightenment. Afghanistan defeated everyone. Thanks to Iran (a religious society) Russia had drones at a critical time in the war with Ukraine.
you should not talk so much

AlfaT8 wrote:The indigeunis populations werent even doing anything with these resources, some were just giving it away.
It was only after getting colinised did these stupid people understanf the value of what they had and only afterwords had the accuired the know how on how to develop it.
You should thank your conquerers.

Yeah yeah yeah after 80 years of being "educated" by the French, 95% of the Indochina population still did not know how to read and write, the most developed "industry" in Indochina were opium and alcoholic beverage. Budget for military garrision in French-dominated Laos was higher than budget for education. Native enterprises were surpressed in favor of French-dominated ones.

Millions of Colonial India peasants died of starvation so that India supplied more and more food for the British. Traditional Indian textile was crushed in favour of British-dominated ones, led to millions of Indian deads.

Millions of Africans were forced into menial and nearly slave labour in the mines and plantation owned by the Western colonial masters, in the cases such as Belgian Congo there were mutilated and brutally murdered when they failed to fulfill the quota.

Is that the fruit of "education" from your self-proclaimed "moral" people ?

Do you realize you yourself are not different from a Nazi ?

AlfaT8 wrote:Simple, becuase the act of holding and maintaining that power is the demonstration competence and proves who is the most suitible, tis naerly impossible to skip bloodshed.

So political repression, war, mass execution, genocide, slaughter of whole cities and villages... is the demonstration of competence ?

So your selfish goal of keeping privileges and power to yourself at the expense of everyone else is the demonstration of competence ?

So invading other countries, expropriate land from peasants and turn them into landless tenants, exploiting cheap labour and robbing natural resources of others is the demonstration of competenece ?

Is this how you "moral" and "not degenerated" people works ?

Seems like even hoodlums and gangsters are shocked at how disguting your "moral" people are.

I am curious to know your reaction in the case when some others use that very excuse of "competence" to strip everything from you and your family. Don't know if you will still praise them as "talents" in such instances.

AlfaT8 wrote:You know why they have to keep bloodsucking other nations, its simple, its to keep their blooted garbage welfare states afloat.

So yea, there you have it, social democracy directly causing the continuation of imperial colonialism.

So then why Portuguese, Spaniards, England, France from 16th to 19th century invaded other nations then ? There was hardly any social democracy or welfare state there.

Are you dumping your filthy thirst of conquest and robbery to the common people which is only desire for sufficient meal and education ?

And what is the egalitarianism in your social welfare when working people is increasingly impossible to cope with housing, education fee, and food cost, when your "competent" people are living luxuriously ?

For all the knowing history of the West there has been a small circle of filthy rich people and the rest are working class struggle for a meal, and nothing has changed since then. To you these are the definition of egalitarianism ?

I failed to understand why some people claimed themselves to be "anti-West warrior" or "anti-Nazi fighters" but their point of view and ideology is no different from Nazi and the West ?

On the subject of traditional values and rejecting changes as subversion



What did the Enlightenment ever do for us?

higurashihougi wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:The indigeunis populations werent even doing anything with these resources, some were just giving it away.
It was only after getting colinised did these stupid people understanf the value of what they had and only afterwords had the accuired the know how on how to develop it.
You should thank your conquerers.

Yeah yeah yeah after 80 years of being "educated" by the French, 95% of the Indochina population still did not know how to read and write, the most developed "industry" in Indochina were opium and alcoholic beverage. Budget for military garrision in French-dominated Laos was higher than budget for education. Native enterprises were surpressed in favor of French-dominated ones.

Millions of Colonial India peasants died of starvation so that India supplied more and more food for the British. Traditional Indian textile was crushed in favour of British-dominated ones, led to millions of Indian deads.

Millions of Africans were forced into menial and nearly slave labour in the mines and plantation owned by the Western colonial masters, in the cases such as Belgian Congo there were mutilated and brutally murdered when they failed to fulfill the quota.

Is that the fruit of "education" from your self-proclaimed "moral" people ?

Do you realize you yourself are not different from a Nazi ?

Wow, the French are real F'ing assholes, maybe that's why they kept many of their colonies compared to the British.

Yea, the Indians were stupid, should have fought the British instead of each other.
And what the hell were the Indian leaders doing?

Come now, Africa's nonsense had been going on long before the colonials arrived, if anything those slaves were put to good use under the colonials.
As for the Belgians, i would say they were just following the local customs.
Are you really going with the "Noble savage" nonsense when it comes to flippin Africa?

Yes,yes, the NAZIS, the create boogeyman of the modern are.
You do realize, that during the De-nazification era, the allies made a whole lot of fanciful fairy-tales to further demonize the Nazis, right?
Honestly, its become damn near impossible to figure out what the real story was, after all, its the victor that writes the history books.
Worst yet, numerous Nazi soldiers and officers wrote numerous books with these fairy-tales in them, to make them look legitimate.

So political repression, war, mass execution, genocide, slaughter of whole cities and villages... is the demonstration of competence ?

So your selfish goal of keeping privileges and power to yourself at the expense of everyone else is the demonstration of competence ?

So invading other countries, expropriate land from peasants and turn them into landless tenants, exploiting cheap labour and robbing natural resources of others is the demonstration of competenece ?

Is this how you "moral" and "not degenerated" people works ?

Seems like even hoodlums and gangsters are shocked at how disguting your "moral" people are.

I am curious to know your reaction in the case when some others use that very excuse of "competence" to strip everything from you and your family. Don't know if you will still praise them as "talents" in such instances.

Yes, if it is necessary to maintain power, then yes.
And the one doing the deed better be prepared for the risks, or end up like Lincoln.

Yes, because you failed to strip me of this power, ergo you are the incompetent.

Yes, because what else would you call it, the fact that i can even pull that off without losing power, is a clear indication of ones competence.

Aah?... oh, i see, you misunderstand, i am not Argentin.
I don't believe in morality, to me morality is an illusion, an illusion we need to create, in order to have some form of functioning society.
Be it cannibalism, human sacrifice, pedophilia, murder/honor killings, homosexuality, you can morally justify whatever you want, the one issue being, that it has to allow a society to more or less function.

I mean look at all the atrocities you mention, the Colonials justified all that with "their" morals and beliefs, all in order to make their societies flourish.
Don't you get it, its all a game, slaughter when we are strong, demand mercy, understanding and empathy when we are weak, and finally justify the change behind the curtain of "progress".
It's all so damn hilarious.    

I welcome the challenge, for such is natural selection.
Evolve to meet the challenge or perish, even the greatest of empires eventually fall.

AlfaT8 wrote:You know why they have to keep bloodsucking other nations, its simple, its to keep their blooted garbage welfare states afloat.

So yea, there you have it, social democracy directly causing the continuation of imperial colonialism.

So then why Portuguese, Spaniards, England, France from 16th to 19th century invaded other nations then ? There was hardly any social democracy or welfare state there.

Are you dumping your filthy thirst of conquest and robbery to the common people which is only desire for sufficient meal and education ?

And what is the egalitarianism in your social welfare when working people is increasingly impossible to cope with housing, education fee, and food cost, when your "competent" people are living luxuriously ?

For all the knowing history of the West there has been a small circle of filthy rich people and the rest are working class struggle for a meal, and nothing has changed since then. To you these are the definition of egalitarianism ?

I failed to understand why some people claimed themselves to be "anti-West warrior" or "anti-Nazi fighters" but their point of view and ideology is no different from Nazi and the West ?

That was because it was the colonial days, call it the 4X era, expand, explore, exploit and exterminate.
For that was great nation building.
Nowadays they need to keep doing that nonsense just to keep their nation afloat, because without the continues expansion of Welfare, well revolutionary talks will turn into revolutionary actions real fast.

Egalitarianism is a failed delusion, men are not equal and women even less so, capitalism was the only thing worth a damn, earn your keep, and take the path up the social ladder and into greatness.
I know communists don't like to believe in capitalism, but it lifted a lot of people out of poverty, private property and all that.
Now tell me about the evil monopolies, so i can tell you that its only possible possible with the power of the government.

Well most of human technological progress is thanks to approx 1% of the human population.
So yea, its gonna be a small circle.

No that's more like the definition of reality, leaders are few, lazy fools who wanna mooch on welfare are many.

Nah, its not Nazism, its just natural selection and genetic realities, not my fault the Nazis also believed in it.

AlfaT8 wrote:Egalitarianism is a failed delusion, men are not equal and women even less so, capitalism was the only thing worth a damn, earn your keep, and take the path up the social ladder and into greatness.

Earn ?

Using political and military power to expropriate land peasants and turning them into landless tenants or pauperized proletariat is "earn" ?

Extract land lent, forced labour on slaves and serf, extract surplus power from waged workers, robbing natural resources in 3rd word countries is "earn" ?

People work days and nights and you using authority and power to take the fruit from them and you call that you are "earning" ?

Even a despicable hoodlums know that robbing and earning is different and now let take a look at a self-proclaimed "talent" and "not degenernated" person talking nonsense.

AlfaT8 wrote:I know communists don't like to believe in capitalism, but it lifted a lot of people out of poverty, private property and all that.
Now tell me about the evil monopolies, so i can tell you that its only possible possible with the power of the government.

So how did capitalism lift people in Africa, South Asia, Latino America out of poverty ?

By bloodsucking natural resoures and cheap labour from them and siphon these into so-called "developed countries" ?

So the shitshow in pre-revolution Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela are "lift people our of poverty" by capitalism ?

So the criminal and brutal embargo of USA against Venezuela and Cuba are "lift people our of poverty" ?

AlfaT8 wrote:Well most of human technological progress is thanks to approx 1% of the human population.
So yea, its gonna be a small circle.

Have you ever participate in any science and research activities ?

Do you know how many nameless students and apprentice researchers take part in the project and at the end of the day it is only the "master" take almost all the honor and benefit ?

Do you know the cases of teacher blalantly take or abuse the results of his students for himself, and you call it as a sign of "competence" ?

Do you know that there are many innovations and improvements have been made by normal workers, farmers and soldiers due to their own experience in their work ? Even generals from feudal regimes such as Suvorov and Kutuzov highly praise the innovation and experiences of soldiers and subordinates and  now let take a look at a self-proclaimed "talent" and "not degenernated" person talking nonsense.

Probably you never know or meet any ordinary labourer and only spending your time in a nietzsche-type closet for self-proclaimed "leaders of the world" ?

AlfaT8 wrote:No that's more like the definition of reality, leaders are few, lazy fools who wanna mooch on welfare are many.

Nah, its not Nazism, its just natural selection and genetic realities, not my fault the Nazis also believed in it.

So then where does that welfare come ?

Do the "few leaders" make all the money and the rest are just lazy, go to the factories and offices just to chit chat and do nothing ?

Are the workers in sweatshop lazy ? Japanese corporate slaves are lazy ? Immigrants workers or cheap labour in 3rd world countries are lazy and do nothing ?

Which parallel universe are you living in ?

Locking yourself in a megalomaniac closet is detrimental for your health, you know ?

AlfaT8 wrote:Yes, if it is necessary to maintain power, then yes.
And the one doing the deed better be prepared for the risks, or end up like Lincoln.

Yes, because you failed to strip me of this power, ergo you are the incompetent.

Yes, because what else would you call it, the fact that i can even pull that off without losing power, is a clear indication of ones competence.

Aah?... oh, i see, you misunderstand, i am not Argentin.
I don't believe in morality, to me morality is an illusion, an illusion we need to create, in order to have some form of functioning society.
Be it cannibalism, human sacrifice, pedophilia, murder/honor killings, homosexuality, you can morally justify whatever you want, the one issue being, that it has to allow a society to more or less function.

I mean look at all the atrocities you mention, the Colonials justified all that with "their" morals and beliefs, all in order to make their societies flourish.
Don't you get it, its all a game, slaughter when we are strong, demand mercy, understanding and empathy when we are weak, and finally justify the change behind the curtain of "progress".
It's all so damn hilarious.    

I welcome the challenge, for such is natural selection.
Evolve to meet the challenge or perish, even the greatest of empires eventually fall.

So the Maidan Kiev criminals massacre people in Odessa, Donetsk, Lugansk, brutally supress dissdents and forcefully kidnap Ukrainian to have cannon fodders... are simply might make rights, nothing wrong with the Maidan, and the victims in Donbass, Odessa and other deserved to die because they were powerless and incompetent ? So the Maidan did nothing wrong, the USA and Western power did nothing wrong, they just want to keep power ?

So what is the point of criticizing the West anyway when whatever you endorse is practically identical to them ?

Or it is simply because you are competing with the West for power and if, for example, the people in Donbass somehow is a burden to your quest for power, then you have no problem turning against them ?

I have no words 

Next time we play the Secret Hitler game, I'm going to look straight at you AlfaT8  
ArgentinianFascist is too obvious

Use of hormone blockers proves that the tranny agenda is pure rot. Puberty resolves over 80% of gender dysphoria cases. If
this was medicine then hormone blockers would never be used.

I am surprised that such disgusting TV show is legal in the Netherlands.

It is a blalant violation against children and somehow these states are always blabbering that they are the safe haven of human rights.

I suspect the intent of that video was to show that while an adult sees these dildos and anal beads and other sex toys as sex toys, they don't, because they don't understand what they are for and how to use them.

They are suggesting the innocence of children, which is ironic because these freaks want these kids to decide on their gender for themselves and to be desensitised to alternative sexualities...

Sexuality is an adult thing and just like showing porn to kids is illegal these people do it in the name of "educating them" about things they have no need to understand yet.

I suspect the intent of that video was to show that while an adult sees these dildos and anal beads and other sex toys as sex toys, they don't, because they don't understand what they are for and how to use them.

And what was the point of that?

To demonstrate that kids wouldn't recognize a sex toy? Well yeah I'd hope so.
They might do now though.

They put up phallic statues in the USA. They make commercials with pedophile overtones. The message is clear: sodomite degeneracy.

I am starting to believe that the western elites are actual Satan worshipers. It sounds absurd but judge them by their actions.

"Defiant"

"mounted a comeback"

"dedicated to the resilience of Ukrainian women"

I left the intepretation for all of you here because I fail to comprehend what is going on.

https://www.businessinsider.com/photo-ukraine-tv-star-makes-playboy-cover-after-losing-eye-in-attack-2023-8

Defiant Ukrainian TV star poses for Playboy in an armored bikini after being shot and losing an eye in the war

kvs wrote:They put up phallic statues in the USA.  They make commercials with pedophile overtones.  The message is clear: sodomite degeneracy.  

I am starting to believe that the western elites are actual Satan worshipers.   It sounds absurd but judge them by their actions.

I was having a discussion with a friend a few weeks ago. Possibly the masked orgies from the movie eyes wide shot are actually a massive understatement of the situation.

You see also that many politicians in power in Europe go often against their own interests and even against their main policies from when they were in the opposition.
One example is Giorgia Meloni, She is now practically a copy of the globalist (and anti Italian) left party leader Enrico Letta.

It is almost like that those politicians, once it appears they have chances to win the elections, are taken to some strange building and encouraged to take part to some illegal and immoral activity (including, but not only satanic rituals, rapes, etc) that will be recorded in order to have them on a leash forever. And if they refuse to take part to those activities they are either made disappear or removed from power in other ways and marked as crazy or similar.

They could be compromised. Or they could have been controlled opposition from the beggining

[quote="flamming_python"]La próxima vez que juguemos al juego Secret Hitler, te voy a mirar directamente AlfaT8 El fascista argentino es demasiado obvio[/cita]

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

kvs wrote:They put up phallic statues in the USA.  They make commercials with pedophile overtones.  The message is clear: sodomite degeneracy.  

I am starting to believe that the western elites are actual Satan worshipers.   It sounds absurd but judge them by their actions.

I was having a discussion with a friend a few weeks ago.  Possibly the masked orgies from the movie eyes wide shot are actually a massive understatement of the situation.

You see also that many politicians in power in Europe go often against their own interests and even against their main policies from when they were in the opposition.
One example is Giorgia Meloni, She is now practically a copy of the globalist (and anti Italian) left party leader Enrico Letta.

It is almost like that those politicians, once it appears they have chances to win the elections, are taken to some strange building and encouraged to take part to some illegal and immoral activity (including, but not only satanic rituals, rapes, etc) that will be recorded in order to have them on a leash forever. And if they refuse to take part to those activities they are either made disappear or removed from power in other ways and marked as crazy or similar.

And contrast with healthy leaders like Putin or Orban. The most you can find in these guys is some infidelity, if they had it.

higurashihougi wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:Egalitarianism is a failed delusion, men are not equal and women even less so, capitalism was the only thing worth a damn, earn your keep, and take the path up the social ladder and into greatness.

Earn ?

Using political and military power to expropriate land peasants and turning them into landless tenants or pauperized proletariat is "earn" ?

Extract land lent, forced labour on slaves and serf, extract surplus power from waged workers, robbing natural resources in 3rd word countries is "earn" ?

People work days and nights and you using authority and power to take the fruit from them and you call that you are "earning" ?

Even a despicable hoodlums know that robbing and earning is different and now let take a look at a self-proclaimed "talent" and "not degenernated" person talking nonsense.

You describing colonialism or socialism, getting hard to tell.

Not unless your job is to rob, in that case it is what they earn.
Degeneracy in what, for not believing i your god, be it Marx or whatever.

AlfaT8 wrote:I know communists don't like to believe in capitalism, but it lifted a lot of people out of poverty, private property and all that.
Now tell me about the evil monopolies, so i can tell you that its only possible possible with the power of the government.

So how did capitalism lift people in Africa, South Asia, Latino America out of poverty ?

By bloodsucking natural resoures and cheap labour from them and siphon these into so-called "developed countries" ?

So the shitshow in pre-revolution Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela are "lift people our of poverty" by capitalism ?

So the criminal and brutal embargo of USA against Venezuela and Cuba are "lift people our of poverty" ?

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Again, Africa being Africa is the main problem, for example, when the colonials left many African nations decided to embrace communism, this directly led to mass famine and horrible poverty.

South Asia?
Typically the big 3, Afghanistan Pakistan and India
I think everyone knows about afghan history, though there was a time that they were known as little America.
Pakistan started with islamism, not really sure they every fully embraced capitalism, since, you know, its not in the Quran.
India, well, colonialism really did a number on them, even after the British left, pity.

Yea what of it?

Meh, the South American colonies was more imperialism than capitalism, though a lot of people did get rich, just not the people you care about.
And Cubans have a very serious hatred towards communism, wonder why??... probly wasn't real communism, right?

AlfaT8 wrote:Well most of human technological progress is thanks to approx 1% of the human population.
So yea, its gonna be a small circle.

Have you ever participate in any science and research activities ?

Do you know how many nameless students and apprentice researchers take part in the project and at the end of the day it is only the "master" take almost all the honor and benefit ?

Do you know the cases of teacher blalantly take or abuse the results of his students for himself, and you call it as a sign of "competence" ?

Do you know that there are many innovations and improvements have been made by normal workers, farmers and soldiers due to their own experience in their work ? Even generals from feudal regimes such as Suvorov and Kutuzov highly praise the innovation and experiences of soldiers and subordinates and  now let take a look at a self-proclaimed "talent" and "not degenernated" person talking nonsense.

Probably you never know or meet any ordinary labourer and only spending your time in a nietzsche-type closet for self-proclaimed "leaders of the world" ?

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You think everyone was involved in the technological advancement of humanity, yea right.

All you did was go from 1% to 5%, congratulations, its still a very exclusive club.

Look at me, the socialist pretending to represent the labourer, oh ma proletariat.
Go read Marx's fan-fiction.

AlfaT8 wrote:No that's more like the definition of reality, leaders are few, lazy fools who wanna mooch on welfare are many.

Nah, its not Nazism, its just natural selection and genetic realities, not my fault the Nazis also believed in it.

So then where does that welfare come ?

Do the "few leaders" make all the money and the rest are just lazy, go to the factories and offices just to chit chat and do nothing ?

Are the workers in sweatshop lazy ? Japanese corporate slaves are lazy ? Immigrants workers or cheap labour in 3rd world countries are lazy and do nothing ?

Which parallel universe are you living in ?

Locking yourself in a megalomaniac closet is detrimental for your health, you know ?

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Taxpayers, foreign conquests and at this point the money printer, mostly the money printer.

Not all of the money, but a lot of it, and moochers prefer to wait at home for some welfare check to come in.

Chinese sweatshops aren't lazy, but they are a dead end.
Forget the Japanese, east Asian countries in general should drop their crazy 9/9/6 or worst work culture, its stupid and completely unnecessary.
And the Japs should stop printing their money into inflation hell.
No, but they come for generous the welfare, especially the recent arrivals in Europe, you can end the migrant crises by just getting rid of the welfare.

I can ask you the same thing, such delusions of equality in a world where it doesn't exist nor can it ever, yet you still pursue it.

Better to be a megalomaniac realist, than a delusional self-righteous socialist/egalitarian.

AlfaT8 wrote:I mean look at all the atrocities you mention, the Colonials justified all that with "their" morals and beliefs, all in order to make their societies flourish.
Don't you get it, its all a game, slaughter when we are strong, demand mercy, understanding and empathy when we are weak, and finally justify the change behind the curtain of "progress".
It's all so damn hilarious.    

I welcome the challenge, for such is natural selection.
Evolve to meet the challenge or perish, even the greatest of empires eventually fall.

So the Maidan Kiev criminals massacre people in Odessa, Donetsk, Lugansk, brutally supress dissdents and forcefully kidnap Ukrainian to have cannon fodders... are simply might make rights, nothing wrong with the Maidan, and the victims in Donbass, Odessa and other deserved to die because they were powerless and incompetent ? So the Maidan did nothing wrong, the USA and Western power did nothing wrong, they just want to keep power ?

So what is the point of criticizing the West anyway when whatever you endorse is practically identical to them ?

Or it is simply because you are competing with the West for power and if, for example, the people in Donbass somehow is a burden to your quest for power, then you have no problem turning against them ?

Whether is it "right" or "wrong"  hasn't been decided yet, like i said, it is the victor that writes the history books.
But, by my standards, yea its all f'ing looney, the incompetence of Ukraine's previous leadership was staggering and that led directly to this chaotic situation, this is to say nothing about Russia's inaction at the time.
Yea they wanna keep power, and they will do anything and everything to keep it.
Do you still not get it, right or wrong, good or evil, morality itself, its all just public opinion, and all that can easily be swayed.
Do you have any idea how many people think Nuking Japan was the "Good" ,"Righteous" or even Merciful" thing to do.
It so easy.
I mean look at America right now, as its moral axiom shifts into what they now call degeneracy, but will soon or already is the order of the day.
It is the Right that will soon be or already are the degeneracy of the current order.  

What i endorse is to be effective, for example, what was the "moral" thing for Russia to do during or after Odessa, by moral standards Russia should have marched in there and ended this nonsense with fire and fury.
Yet did they, no.
They made some nonsense Minsk agreement and buyed their time to prepare their industries, trade routes and above all their financial system for WAR.
Hell, they gave many Ukrainians years to get the hell out of dodge.
Russia chose effectiveness over morality.

If my goal is to ascend to power then yes, but as always, that is a last resort.
Slaughter would obviously not be the first option, duh.

Sprut-B wrote:I have no words 

https://twitter.com/Kanthan2030/status/1687374711221800960?t=-Al0yz_8fKpjAEq96S81Eg&s=19

Well, this was sooner than i expected.

Oh well.

Another great one from Razorfist.

Scam culture destined for self-termination.

The Epson reservoir model is something new and probably not so cheap. At least it is not a brazen scam.

According to Neo-fascist like AlfaT8 scamming is not that bad, it is the sign of intelligent people who use their wisdom to make money, even at the expense of others, and the scammed people deserve to suffer because they are too ignorant or too powerless to do anything, we should not condem scammers and we should encourage scamming as a sign of ultimate wisdom and might.

The decline of Western society, and other societies in general, is begin with someone who believe that they are superior people for whatever reason and have the authority to do whatever they want to other people, using the excuse of might make rights, competition... to legitimize their act of bullying.

It is ironic that these despicable people, who get used to luxury and are completely ignorant of other people's hardships, are the very reason of the "degenerated" society that they always critcize.