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    Post  Odin of Ossetia Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:34 pm




    Gypsies are not only into petty crime.

    They are known to have committed murders, rapes, and significant financial fraud.


    That is something nobody has mentioned this so far on this thread.






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    Post  flamming_python Mon Dec 19, 2022 8:01 pm

    Gypsies have their own laws, among their own communities, and prefer to live autonomously at the fringes of society. This is a mechanism for the survival of their culture and identity in the absence of a homeland. Until recently (the 50s and 60s of the previous century), they were mostly nomadic. Now they're sedentary by and large, but still keep their distance from cities and other peoples.
    Many of their laws resemble those which reign among prison inmates.. i.e. don't have dealings with the authorities, take disputes directly to your elders, etc...
    Girls marry very early, usually in arranged marriages. It's very much frowned upon for them to marry outside their ethnicity nor do they typically have the opportunity to do so. Guys have more leeway, but again they're expected to marry early and into their own people.

    But some gypsy communities are more liberal, or gypsies go and integrate into society - and in that case sure, you get mixed marriages and so on.

    There was this series of video blogs I watched a while ago about how this Russian dude starts helping out this 17-year old gypsy girl, and she kind of exploits him for his car and cash (but he kinda gets in there eventually if you know you what I mean  Razz )
    It's in Russian but here you can see a gypsy community which doesn't really have any rules or any leader, and people there seem to be pretty chill and integrate with the rest of society but at their own pace.


    At the end of the day though, if you don't bother them, then they won't bother you. Some are involved in the drugs trade but most aren't. They tend to find niches and set up trade/services networks for whatever's in demand. Many work in construction. The poorest among them deal in scrap metal. In Russia there were some Central Asian gypsies (Lula) engaged into pick-pocketing and petty theft - but that all went away in the mid-2000s.

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:49 am



    Bend over and take your climate change remediation.

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    Post  Hole Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:41 pm

    Another nail in the coffin.
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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:44 pm

    Bend over and take your climate change remediation.

    Western messages about sustainable development literally blame everything on individual responsibilities. They claim that because us commoners are irresponsible people who wastefully consume plastic and gasoline and therefore we are the main culprit of climate change and environmental destruction.

    But does they provide any affordable alternative to us ? No.

    We do not have the freedom to choose gasoline or gas, it is currently the most affordable to us as, clearly, clean energy has not yet become a reliable alternative. We are not free to consume the plastic bottle or plastic straws, the manufacturers package their goods in that way and we have no say in their business affairs.

    And we common, powerless people have no say in the large scale destructive operation of mining companies and factories which are dumping tons of toxic waste to the third world countries they are operating.

    But somehow it is our sole responsibility, not the responsibility of the billionaires and politicians who are running the Western Big Corporation Empire.

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    Post  Firebird Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:03 am

    THis is the point. If you didn't buy a big car with a big engine that does 160mph, the Establishment would portray u as a loser or a spendthrift twat.

    Anyone who drove a little eco-car (like a Lada or Trabant) was a portrayed as a moron from a repressive "Communist 3rd world cesspool".

    But now its all upside down. You are "evil" if you want to drive a reasonable car. You "must" use public transport even if most of the railways (eg in Britain) were torn up 70 years ago.

    I'm becoming more and more convinced that "climate change" is a hoax. Just like in the 1970s we were told we were running out of oil. (In truth it was jsut that America and NATO were pissing off Arabia by blowing it up all the time.

    Eco shit is an "excuse" for an increasingly authoritarian West that can't compete economically with emerging powers. BEcause the Western system has been corrupted for a very long time.

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    unfortunately, I only have this picture. Twitter search is quite difficult for me now.

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:34 pm

    All those covid victims must be dragging the statistics down.   But I in reality it is the vaxxing that is making the major contribution.
    Too many deaths under the age of 50 which are not consistent with covid mortality.   "Died suddenly of a 'heart attack'".   Never
    before seen protein amalgam "clots", etc.

    Regarding global warming.   It is real even if the elite slime think that they can use it to get more wealth and power.   Every freaking
    winter a major snow storm sets off the denier bleating about how it is "cold" so warming must be a hoax.   Total, retarded BS of an
    inference.   It is the increased moisture burden in the atmosphere and the associated thermal energy that is giving us special snow
    storm events.   Colder means drier.    The Arctic used to have a solid cold dome that acted as a shield against incursion of baroclinic
    eddies carrying warmer temperatures and moisture from the south.   Now we have such systems penetrating to near the pole.  
    The decline in Arctic sea ice is not some "noise" and has not been seen to this level since before the "ice age" we live in.   We
    are not in an inter-glacial and should be heading back into the ice sheet expansion period but instead we have ice sheet retreat
    across the planet.  

    I see some BS about how sea ice has expanded.  This rubbish, zero-context prattle that is par for the course with deniers.   Like
    their brain dead repetition about the airport runway temperature anomaly that I have been hearing for the last 30 years at least.
    Not every freaking temperature measurement is at airports.   And no, it was not climate scientists that claimed we were heading
    for an ice age in the 1970s.   That was the fake stream media, Newsweek in particular, engaging in its usual sensationalist BS.
    The cooling trend from the 1950s to the 1970s was associated with massive sulfate aerosol emissions that "geo-engineered" the
    planet by scattering enough short-wave sunlight to lower surface heating.  

    Humanity is on the Titanic and the elites are busy re-arranging the deck chairs and telling the orchestra to play some happy music.
    It tells you the real level of these vermin.   They think that they can secure their sorry asses with some repression and
    privation of the masses.   Their only skill is palace intrigues.   They were funding global warming deniers (e.g. Exxon and its
    hundreds of millions on assorted shills) and their fake stream media orifices were spewing FUD about climate change until
    the early 2000s.   There must have been some star chamber meeting where they decided to use global warming as a control
    bludgeon and imperialism enabler.   So now they are pushing it like the new religion.   These f*ckers don't even understand how climate
    change works and could care less.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Dec 25, 2022 3:24 pm

    @scorpius, @kvs:

    Life expectancy of several countries during 2008-2021.

    The U.S. severely lagged behind many of its allies, and the U.S. suffered a decrease recently during the Covid crisis. Meanwhile a certain country manage to surpass the US.

    America mainstream media do not like this fact.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Dec 25, 2022 9:21 pm

    More expensive energy and energy shortage and various economic issues might cause the European figures for the elderly to shift quite a bit over the next decade or so... and not for the better.
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    Post  jhelb Mon Dec 26, 2022 10:52 am

    Sujoy wrote:White supremacist like jhelb will be devastated to learn that a popular theory is that "Hindus" themselves came to India from parts of modern day central Russia
    Merry Christmas Sojoy Razz Razz

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    Post  Kiko Mon Dec 26, 2022 11:59 pm

    Scotland found its way to independence, by Alexander Khabarov for RIANOVOSTI. 12.26.2022.

    In the Middle Ages, and even later, issues of war and peace, the annexation of territories or, conversely, the division of land were often resolved through dynastic marriages and subsequent childbearing. Far from always entering into a family union reciprocated each other, but the relationship of the sexes was sacrificed to politics. Modern figures have moved to a new gender level in solving issues of state building. The authorities of Scotland, not having the legal opportunity to secede from the United Kingdom, decided to secede from the hateful England by passing their law on gender reassignment.

    The strategic decision was given to the Scottish parliamentarians with great difficulty. Opponents of the bill desperately tried to stop him. I had to vote for each item, and the discussion dragged on for two days. A disgruntled crowd buzzed at the walls of Parliament. Feminist activists seeped into the ranks of the audience. One of them, in the best traditions of British suffragettes, bared her lower body with the words: "If you want to be decent, then I will be obscene." The law was adopted by a majority of votes: 86 against 39.

    The key points of the Scottish "gender revolution" were the permission to change sex at 16 without a medical examination and the reduction of the period of "stay in a new gender identity" from two years to three months. All this is contrary to the laws in force in the rest of the United Kingdom: in England, Northern Ireland and Wales . Thus, Edinburgh threw down the gauntlet to London , offering to participate in another political duel.

    Not daring to encroach on the rights of transgender people - in the West it is now suicidal - the London publications began to repel the insidious attack of the Scots using the arguments and means available to them. Critics of the new law assure everyone that those accused of sexual offenses will now declare themselves to be transgender en masse. As a result, male rapists will have to be treated as women in courts, prisoners will be required to be transferred from male to female prisons, and "transgender" tourism awaits Scotland.

    Edinburgh's gender escalation is a purely political matter, and the British government will have to respond anyway. Sunak's cabinet would like to block the Scottish Bill, preventing King Charles III from signing it . But gender issues are within the purview of the Scottish Parliament, so lawyers in London are now trying to urgently find contradictions with other laws of the kingdom. Edinburgh promises to closely monitor that London does not violate the constitutional rights of the Scots.

    The leader of the opposition Labor Party, Cyrus Starmer , called for a law identical to that of Scotland to be in place throughout the UK . The idea was favored in the European Union - Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights Dunja Mijatovic welcomed the decision of the Scottish parliamentarians, adding that nine of the 27 EU countries have already approved similar bills. Among the distinguished congress of Spain , which approved the right of children to freely change sex from the age of 16. From 14 to 16, parental consent is required, from 12 to 14, court approval is required. Before the age of 12, gender change is prohibited, but such children may change their name and require that they be addressed in accordance with their choice.

    However, Spanish activists believe that this is not enough: they intend to seek the removal of any age restrictions. And few people in Europe today risk arguing with such "progressive" ideas. The Spanish law on transgender people has a separate system of punishments for violations of it. For example, for refusing to hire or provide housing for rent to transgender people, as well as adherents of non-traditional sexual orientation, the violator faces a fine of ten to 150 thousand euros.

    It is not easy for opponents of the transgender offensive to voice their thoughts today. For a timid attempt to defend the preservation of "at least something feminine" in Britain, the writer J.K. Rowling was pecked, even screen "children" disowned her - actors who gained fame thanks to their roles in the Harry Potter films . Journalist Hadley Freeman was forced to resign from the Guardian newspaper, where she worked for almost a quarter of a century. She claims that she was banned from publishing materials that cast a shadow on LGBT organizations: "I never had problems publishing interviews of activists defending the rights of transgender people, but it was forbidden to present the opposite point of view."

    The journalist was banned from covering the scandal surrounding the charitable organization Mermaids ("The Little Mermaids"), "supporting transgender, non-binary and other children with gender changes." It turned out that one of the trustees of this fund, a visiting professor at the London School of Economics Jacob Brislow, was associated with an organization that seeks "truth and dignity" for pedophiles. "The Little Mermaids" sent underage girls who thought about changing their sex elastic bandages to squeeze their breasts. The foundation's website published material on how sex blockers are safe drugs, and gave advice to children aged 12 to 15 on how to get funds for hormone therapy. The commission for charitable organizations became interested in the activities of the "Mermaids".

    In the course of "inclusiveness" - the acceptance of everything, no matter how terrible it all seems. The UK's National Health System is now complaining about a lack of funds and at the same time is ready to spend £100,000 on a program to train maternity staff to take care of transgender male women in labor. Midwives are invited to change their usual vocabulary: instead of "breastfeeding" they should say "delivery of milk", avoid the words "woman" and "mother", replacing them with "people in labor".

    From political salons and hospital wards, the slippery topic reached the Anglican Church. During a Sunday service at Trinity College Chapel, Cambridge University, visiting scholar Joshua Heath presented the flock with several medieval and Renaissance paintings of the crucifixion of Christ. The researcher drew the audience's attention to the side wound on the body of Jesus in the painting by the Dutch artist Jean Maluel and suggested that it was deliberately isolated "to look like a vagina." Joshua Heath gave a few more arguments confirming his version, using other canvases, and concluded his speech with the words: "In these works, the body of Christ is presented both as a male and as a female, and if his body unites both sexes, then it can also be considered transgender body. The parishioners were shocked. According to eyewitnesses, after such a sermon, cries of "Heresy!" were heard in the chapel, someone left in tears. The scandalous story did not end there. Trinity College Dean Michael Banner stated that the claim that Jesus Christ could be transgender, has the right to life: "I believe that the reasoning on this topic is quite reasonable, even if someone does not agree with such an interpretation of artistic images and with an attempt to connect with modern issues of transsexuality."

    The breadth of views of the scientific community in Britain is well known. The problem is that politicians use these dashing thoughts with might and main, dressing them in laws, which then need to be followed by everyone else, regardless of whether they share or not the proposed innovations. Scottish parliamentarians can feel as much as they want that by passing their "transgender" law, they have shown everyone their independence. In fact, they simply seized the initiative from the British, moreover, temporarily. So it does not make sense for the Scots to draw a gender line - they have no one to separate from.

    https://ria.ru/20221226/transgendery-1841246431.html

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:19 am

    Was in the wrong thread. It actually belongs in this one

    Found this to be a good explanation of the wokesanity in the West. Although not a complete one IMO. There is a deeper agenda and organization to the process

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:20 am

    He is right about the undershoot-overshoot nature of history and politics. But it is too reductionist to infer that historical evolution
    is a blind process. Society is a conspiracy by definition. Since every (real) society is a hierarchy the conspiracy is even more organized.
    You can say that the conspiracy is driven by dis-organized allocation of interests to the various groupings that emerge in human social
    organization. (For example, the children of the rich are born into that whole milieu and it determines their interests unless they drop out
    of it). But these interests create very organized structures and action.

    The current woke degeneracy is not a blind process. It is being financed and promoted by the capitalist elites (see all the woke-ness
    at major companies). There is no way that some grass roots social activism is controlling corporations. We can tell from the goose-stepping
    conformity in the mass media that selection processes are very effective and every journalist follows orders. So the only way that woke
    policies are allowed at companies is because the owners want them.

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:32 pm

    If you go to the link for the chart posted above:

    https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy

    you can select the countries for which the statistics are available. I did this for Portugal, Israel and other high vax countries.
    They are all fake. The US is the only real data. The vax and coof death rate in the high vax countries is high and it is simply not credible
    that neither the coof nor the vax had any impact on life expectancy.

    There is no impartial agency collecting this data. It is reported by national governments, the same ones that engaged in Nuremberg level
    crimes against humanity with their vax mandates and lock-downs. Yes, I have personal stake in this abuse so I do not have to play the
    credibility moron game.

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    Post  higurashihougi Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:44 am

    https://www.rt.com/business/569136-young-brits-sick-work/

    Young Brits ‘too sick’ to work – official data

    More 16-34-year-olds are reporting mental health issues as the reason for being inactive, the ONS reports


    Mental health issues are keeping Britain’s younger population out of work at record levels, at a time when the country struggles with a worsening economic crisis, Bloomberg reports, citing official data.

    According to data compiled by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), the country’s young working age people are suffering from long-term health issues that are keeping them out of work at increasingly alarming rates.

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    Post  franco Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:58 pm

    https://www.rt.com/business/569136-young-brits-sick-work/

    Young Brits ‘too sick’ to work – official data

    More 16-34-year-olds are reporting mental health issues as the reason for being inactive, the ONS reports

    Mental health issues are keeping Britain’s younger population out of work at record levels, at a time when the country struggles with a worsening economic crisis, Bloomberg reports, citing official data.

    According to data compiled by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), the country’s young working age people are suffering from long-term health issues that are keeping them out of work at increasingly alarming rates


    I believe this is true in a lot of Western countries. There is a grim view of the future amongst the young people leading to suicides, mental health issues and drug use.

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:29 pm

    Europeans and their virtue signaling

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:13 am

    By the same measure most people in the west think criminals should get longer sentences, but no one wants a new prison built near where they live...
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:36 am

    https://www.rt.com/news/569504-elementary-student-shoots-teacher/

    A 6-year-old boy in Newport News, Virginia has reportedly shot and injured his elementary school teacher, putting her in the hospital with life-threatening injuries in an attack that police say was not an accident.

    How the hell a 6 yrs kid is able to equipped himself with a gun to shoot his teacher ?

    And which parents teach their son to shoot his teacher ?
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    Post  Regular Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:21 am

    I had access to guns at the same age. Not even locked. All of us had guns in the countryside to control vermin or hunt under Dosaf. Even if the guns were left - I had no access to ammo, but only because father didn’t want any accidents.
    Shooting up schools was unheard and unimaginable thing. Smokebombing the school toilets with newspapers soaked in saltpetre (most common thing in any farm) was edgiest thing we ever did.
    And it always ended up in lashings and beatings by teachers and then our parents. We also had knives and access to cars back then too, but didn’t go on killing sprees like it happens now.
    There must be something wrong with people these days.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:55 am

    To run amok is to run through your own village or someone elses killing people at random... the word is thousands of years old and predates firearms by quite a long period of time.

    It is a mental health issue... I personally think it has to do with bullying and desperation but I am not going to say for a second anyone deserves to be shot like that.

    If you are having thoughts of going on some heroic rampage just to show everyone... what you really should be doing is finding someone to talk to... not a partner in crime but a professional who can help you work through your issues

    The real irony is that kids at school don't understand how the world works yet and the powerful people at school... or at my school anyway... were the good looking cool people... people that would now be internet influencers or some such rubbish, but what nerds and geeks from high school need to realise being good looking does help you in life... people will gravitate towards you and want to be your friend, but looks will only get you so far and more importantly... looks fade and then you have to rely on your personality.

    I would say the shooting rampage sort of people get trapped by a stupid action... obviously not all situations are the same but often something makes them break and they start to kill... often starting with their family or friends and then going to places like schools.

    The ones who spend time planning of course is another level of evil but for many it probably is a fantasy to make them feel good till something happens and they think they have nothing to lose by making it a reality.

    Sadly in the west the guns and gun availability always gets the blame so no effort is spent examining what happened and why... they make the gun laws tighter and then claim to have solved the problem... till next time.

    The irony here in New Zealand is that the last censored that did this, who murdered 51 people and injured many many more should not have had a firearms licence in the first place.... you need two referees to vouch for your suitability to have a fire arms licence and this dick hadn't even met his two referees... he only knew them over the internet...

    But obviously when the old rules fail to be enforced the solution is obviously stricter rules and eliminating certain gun types.

    So the only people in the country with those firearm types are the Army, the Police, and the gang members... I feel safer... not.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:52 am



    Western clown world.

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