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    Post  Hole Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:03 pm

    Butt-hurt²

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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 24, 2022 2:57 pm

    If the roles were reversed it would be censorship of comedy... it would be sour grapes... it would be evil empire afraid of the truth and alternative voices... (note it was Russian TV channels banned in the west well before any western channels were banned in Russia...)

    I am sure they will justify this banning because it is obviously a hate crime, or perhaps even Climate Change Terrorism... CCT...

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:58 am



    Well that's a big relief. I was beginning to get worried that Germany will some how persuade Russia to open NS2 to avoid the harshness of coming winters. Glad to know that its now no longer possible.

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    Post  owais.usmani Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:30 am

    And there goes Nord Stream 1 cheers

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:55 am

    Unless it can be blamed on a miracle earthquake, it looks pretty much like sabotage, just to make sure the Geramans don't weaken but also, perhaps as important for many, it takes out the possibility of gas prices dropping in the near to medium future.

    Looks like the end of any Russian gas for Germany for a while, unless they can persuade the Poles to reopen Yamal.


    A bit more, plus comments at https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/defunct-nord-stream-2-pressure-mysteriously-plunges

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    Post  Airbornewolf Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:25 pm

    From an Danish SAR helicopter.
    Leaks from the Nord Stream routes.

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:42 pm

    From my post on the Russian gas thread

    Swedish broadcaster SVT reported that the Swedish National Seismic Network detected two underwater explosions near the Nord Stream pipeline system on Monday.

    "One of the explosions had a magnitude of 2.3, and was registered at as many as 30 measuring stations in southern Sweden," SVT said.

    Bjorn Lund, a professor in seismology and director of the Swedish National Seismic Network, said these two seismic events were explosions.

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    Post  ALAMO Tue Sep 27, 2022 3:49 pm

    There was 0.3 bcm in NS2, and about same amount in NS1. It will bubble for a while, even the flow was switched off.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 28, 2022 4:05 am

    Well that's a big relief. I was beginning to get worried that Germany will some how persuade Russia to open NS2 to avoid the harshness of coming winters. Glad to know that its now no longer possible.

    Worse than that... the only thing stopping NSII operating at full capacity is German BS over certification and EU rules over allowing 50% free for competitors to use half the capacity.

    Germany could very easily have just said it has the go ahead and for Russia to pump gas through at maximum capacity because they care about their citizens and industry and don't want to create their own economic collapse.

    Fortunately the Germans are clearly bought and paid for, but I very much agree this is good because now the Russians will have to investigate and the fact that it is in the territorial waters of hostile countries they may never be allowed there to check... meaning they can never use those pipelines again.

    To be clear the NSII pipeline was to assure the EU could get some gas no matter what BS the Ukraine pulled like stealing or blocking transit gas.

    There will be no NSIII... and Germany continues to arm and support Kiev so who cares... I think waiting to the middle of winter and then cutting all supplies to all countries participating in illegal sanctions against Russia and also arming and funding the terrorist leadership in Kiev that is busy murdering a significant portion of its own population for speaking Russian... is a good solution for Russia.

    I am sure the US will be happy to freeze sending all the gas they can spare in the middle of winter when their supply is less than their own demand...

    Unless it can be blamed on a miracle earthquake, it looks pretty much like sabotage, just to make sure the Geramans don't weaken but also, perhaps as important for many, it takes out the possibility of gas prices dropping in the near to medium future.

    Fully expect the Germans to blame Russia for this "sabotage"... I would not call it sabotage... it is more like the owner of a condemned building that is worth more burned to the ground than in its current state storing fuel and paint and fireworks in there and going away for a weekend leaving their pyromaniac children to party in the building... first ensuring the insurance is fully paid up and with the most comprehensive cover.

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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:31 am

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:44 pm

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    Germany is scared shitless about the winter. There was real chance Germans would buckle, make deal for gas through pipelines. This closes that avenue:

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:46 pm

    Worth parking here

    25% of the EU’s gas comes from Norwegian subsea gas pipelines and from memory 40% of the UK's.

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    Post  LMFS Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:54 pm

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    Germany is scared shitless about the winter. There was real chance Germans would buckle, make deal for gas through pipelines. This closes that avenue:

    If they had remains of dignity, they would be kicking the gringos out of the country immediately, but they clearly don't have any. It is a tragedy, to see that happening before our eyes, while most of the Germans don't have a clue where they are heading to...

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:12 am

    JohninMK wrote:Worth parking here

    25% of the EU’s gas comes from Norwegian subsea gas pipelines and from memory 40% of the UK's.

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    Don't see a reason to retaliate

    Retaliate for what? In my mind the Anglos have shot their own in the foot.
    Let it be a matter between them. Russia wasn't currently selling them much through Nord Stream anyway. Nord Stream II was stuck in legal hell and Nord Stream I was missing a turbine.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:41 am

    Perhaps as it gets colder they will start to ask questions...

    If they don't care about the truth why should we care about their situation?

    This is the EUs battle with the US and Kiev... better for Russia to not get involved... other than making sure everyone is clear about who did this to whom.

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    Post  Broski Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:59 am

    The US has sabotaged the EU's cheapest, abundant and most reliable source of gas (NS1+2). Naftogaz is about to be put on Russia's sanctions list in retaliation for their arbitration claims which means that Europe (minus Hungary, Serbia and Turkey) is about to lose their last source of Russian gas just before Winter. Knowing how the US operates, they'll eventually get their pet Ukrainians to blow up the Yamal pipeline and blame Russia for it. 

    What else is there for Russia to do? They can't save the EU from itself.

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:07 am


    Biden already said it before , EU knows that but they have no balls to accuse US .

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    Post  flamming_python Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:42 am

    Broski wrote:The US has sabotaged the EU's cheapest, abundant and most reliable source of gas (NS1+2). Naftogaz is about to be put on Russia's sanctions list in retaliation for their arbitration claims which means that Europe (minus Hungary, Serbia and Turkey) is about to lose their last source of Russian gas just before Winter. Knowing how the US operates, they'll eventually get their pet Ukrainians to blow up the Yamal pipeline and blame Russia for it. 

    What else is there for Russia to do? They can't save the EU from itself.

    Why save them, even if there was such a possibility?
    What have the European elites done for Russia lately? Attempt to sanction it, forment a revolution in it, and now send men and materials to kill it's soldiers?

    To hell with them. Their vassalage to the US and decreasing options for sourcing gas is their own doing and their own problem

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    Post  kvs Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:14 am

    But as pointed out by Mercouris this sabotage will be used to demonize Russians. The same hate narrative that Russians
    are irrational, mad aggressors will be pumped up. This is leading to WWIII because the NATzO f*cktards will decide that
    the "need" to do something about Russia since Russia is such an "existential threat".

    This is NATzO wanking itself into a final world war.



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    Post  Airbornewolf Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:46 am

    secondary footage of the NS leak:




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    Whatever happens in the EU, it is 100% self-inflicted.

    where i live in western europe, people are voluntarily shutting down from the gas networks because for people and businesses it becomes unaffordable.

    In fact, Energy suppliers again hiked up the prices.
    Governments might want to wage this war at all cost.

    but if i read the sentiments most people post as comments under pro-ukraine news in my nation's media is that they dont give a shit about Ukraine.
    They care if their homes are heated so their kids dont freeze or get sick.
    ..and the real cold has not even started yet.

    Sorry that i say it, but it is about damn time the West is going to feel consequences for it's actions.

    i myself?. ill be fine.
    If i need some heat, ill just look to good ol' Red that functions like an actual room heater. Cool
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    Post  Hole Thu Sep 29, 2022 12:34 pm

    Soon the Swedish or Danish Coast Guards will find a russian passport near the leaks. Case solved!

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:18 pm

    Slightly off topic.
    Lets say the situation this winter go's full retard for europe, like general winter himself comes down on them.
    And they go crawling back to Russia.

    Could Russia deploy their floating nuclear stations in order to bring energy to europe?

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    Post  ALAMO Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:20 pm

    No, because they don't have them. The only one is sitting and working where it's needed.

    Hole wrote:Soon the Swedish or Danish Coast Guards will find a russian passport near the leaks. Case solved!

    Putin riding on a military-grade dolphin was seen in the vicinity.

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    The case is solved. Russia's fault.

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    Post  owais.usmani Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:09 pm

    AlfaT8 wrote:
    Could Russia deploy their floating nuclear stations in order to bring energy to europe?

    Like seriously???
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    Post  LMFS Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:11 pm

    Game plan is becoming increasingly obvious for Europe

    Economic collapse --> Rise of totalitarian governments controlled by the elites --> Active participation in the war against Russia

    Let us see what democratic, freedom loving and human rights vigilant elevated citizens of the EU do when they are kicked into the trenches by some nazi thugs sponsored by the elites...

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