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    Post  Cyberspec on Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:41 am

    mack8 wrote:So what are those, Tu-22M3 with SVP-24-22 or full Tu-22M3M (Novella radar, new H-32 missiles etc etc.)? The 10-12 aircraft p.a. includes the Tu-160 too i presume?

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    There's not much details given. I would guess a general overhaul, SVP-24 and H-32 capability....apparently they used the new material (see video) in place of aluminium in some places
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    Post  zg18 on Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:11 pm

    Modernized Tu-22M3(M?)

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    http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/899956.html
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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:56 am

    Some info on the Kh-32 compared to it's predecessors (versions of the Kh-22).

    It's got almost the same dimensions, with increased range of 600km and increased max speed of 5400km/h

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:45 am

    Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.
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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:05 am

    TR1 wrote:Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.
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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:10 am

    Details on Tu-22M3M Upgrade

    Combat Aircraft Monthly July /Piotr Butowski ,snippets of the upgrade from the article "Backfire To The Future" Piotr Butowski 

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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:14 am

    Note Kh-32 Range has almost double of Kh-22 variant and flies higher at 42 Km Altitude.

    Range of Kh-32 is around 800 Km

    For Tu-22M3M three new weapons are under development.

    Kh-32M  ( modernised variant of Kh-32 )
    Kh-SD ( Subsonic Stealthy 2000 km range missile )
    Kh-MT ( Supersonic Ramjet 1000 km Range missile )


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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:14 am

    Austin wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.

    But the approach speed (terminal phase) is sub Mach 2 IIRC?
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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:31 am

    TR1 wrote:
    Austin wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Guessing it has a higher flight profile?

    Curious what the approach speed is.

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.

    But the approach speed (terminal phase) is sub Mach 2 IIRC?
     No its Mach 4 , How can approach speed be lower in dive trajectory ?

    Since they are liquid fuel engine their thrust can be throttled so it uses max thrust to gain altitude , throttles it during cruise and again goes for max thrust during dive.

    Thats the advantage of using liquid fuel engine
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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:32 am

    Details on Tu-22M3M Upgrade

    Combat Aircraft Monthly July /Piotr Butowski ,snippets of the upgrade from the article "Backfire To The Future" Piotr Butowski 

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    Post  TR1 on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:45 am

    Austin wrote:
     No its Mach 4 , How can approach speed be lower in dive trajectory ?

    Since they are liquid fuel engine their thrust can be throttled so it uses max thrust to gain altitude , throttles it during cruise and again goes for max thrust during dive.

    Thats the advantage of using liquid fuel engine

    Air resistance + drag, and no sustainer engine (@ approach).

    Kh-22's top speed was @ extreme high alt.
    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-139.html
    During the dive speed is around Mach 2 at low lvl.
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    Post  Austin on Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:49 am

    TR1 wrote:
    Air resistance + drag, and no sustainer engine (@ approach).

    Kh-22's top speed was @ extreme high alt.
    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-139.html
    During the dive speed is around Mach 2 at low lvl.
     
    Piotr mentions Mach 4 dive in the same article posting snippets

    The biggest stick


    The Tu-22M does not exist without its
    dedicated Kh-22 (AS-4 ‘Kitchen’) missile;
    the aircraft is only a means of delivering
    the weapon closer to its target. The
    Kh-22 (izdeliye D2) was made by the
    MKB Raduga design facility at Dubna
    near Moscow, originally a branch of the
    Mikoyan design bureau.

    A delta-wing missile made of welded
    titanium and steel alloys, the Kh-22 is
    powered by a twin-chamber liquid-fuel
    R201-300 rocket. After launch from high
    altitude at supersonic speed, the missile
    accelerates to Mach 3 and a height of 22-
    23km (72,178-75,459ft). When approaching
    its target, it dives at an angle of around 30°,
    accelerating to a terminal speed of Mach
    4.15.


    The Kh-22N (niskovysotnaya, lowaltitude)
    version introduced together with
    the Tu-22M3 may also be launched from
    a height as low as 1,000m (3,281ft); in this
    case, the missile flies to the target using a
    low-level profile.

    Two types of guidance may be fitted to
    the Kh-22N. The anti-ship Kh-22N version
    has an active radar seeker, while the airto-
    ground Kh-22NA (A for avtonomnaya,
    autonomous) navigates using a Doppler radar
    and is designed for destroying stationary
    area targets such as airfields, harbors or
    industrial facilities.

    Since the aircraft was designed for the
    requirements of the Cold War, the missile’s
    main warhead type is a nuclear charge. For
    the ‘autonomous’ version with reduced
    homing accuracy, the nuclear charge is the
    sole type of warhead available. The more
    accurate anti-ship missile can alternatively
    be fitted with a 1,984lb (900kg) cumulative/
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:56 am

    Its got High Altitude Cruise and Dive Approach towards target , during Dive the speed goes greater than Mach 4.

    Actually the Kh-32 cruises at high altitude at mach 4.5 and dives on target at a similar speed at a rather steeper angle than 30 degrees.

    The speed is known in the west because there is a drone version of the missile that can be used for high altitude research and was offered for export during the 1990s.
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    Post  Viktor on Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:51 pm

    WoW  thumbsup 

    Kazan aircraft plant started modernizing supersonic long-range bombers Tu-22M3

    Nice

    Compared to the basic machine updated plane got more modern avionics, including the fire control system, ensure precision-guided munitions with laser, infrared and TV guided, new avionics and weapons.

    But this is brutal

    The main weapon modernizrovannogo Tu-22M3 will be a cruise missile X-32 at a speed of more than 4,000 kilometers per hour and a range of up to 1,000 kilometers. opportunity to upgrade Tu-22M3 will effectively use this plane to hit targets throughout Eurasia and the surrounding seas.

    and than this

    At the same time the car will receive great ability to engage ground targets, including point and moving.

    and the most important

    Modernization entire fleet of Tu-22M3 should be completed at the beginning of the 2020s.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:53 pm

    Tupolev Company starts upgrade of Tu-22M3 bombers

    The first upgraded Tu-22M3 supersonic long-range bomber will perform its maiden flight in 2017, BUSINESS Online reports.

    «This year we will start developing documentation and manufacturing the first prototypes. Speaking of our plans, the jet should perform its maiden flight in 2017 and after that its state testing will be started», — Deputy Technical Director of Tupolev’s Kazan-based engineering center, Andrey Levenets, said.

    He explained that two prototypes are being prepared for the testing in order to speed up the process; the total number of jets to be upgraded will be determined later, Interfax-AVN reports.

    «Some vehicles are being upgraded in the network of the first stage of the modernization program, thus, by the time documentation development for the next stage is complete, we will be delivering the upgraded aircraft fitted with the latest equipment manufactured at the present time», — he said.

    He added that implementation of the program’s final stage will help improve the bomber’s combat efficiency, in particular, reduce the crew’s workload, assure more convenient display of flight information, increase the aircraft systems’ level of automation and reliability.

    Tu-22M3 is the long-range bomber designed to destroy optically visible and radar contrast targets, isolated, area-type, ground, sea, moving and fixed targets. The jet is capable of using supersonic guided missiles and non-nuclear/nuclear aerial bombs. It is being operated by the units of Russian long-range aviation and Russian navy. Its maximum takeoff weight is 124 tons; maximum payload – 24 tons. The jet’s maximum speed is 2000 km/h. The vehicle’s crew comprises 4 persons. The weapons are carried inside the jet’s airframe and on two wing stations. The jet is able to carry 10 guided air-to-surface, anti-ship (air-to-ship) and air-to-radar cruise missiles, bombs and aerial mines. The jet was developed by Tupolev design bureau. It is powered by two NK-25 turbofan engines having a takeoff thrust of 25000 kg.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:17 am

    Can anyone who knows russian to tell if in this video on Kazan plant they work on Tu-22M3 modernization?? thanks!!

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    Post  Cyberspec on Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:50 am

    George1 wrote:Can anyone who knows russian to tell if in this video on Kazan plant they work on Tu-22M3 modernization?? thanks!!

    Yes, although they don't go into details.

    They're just saying the aircraft are refurbished. Old internal components are replaced with modern ones. The main improvements are enhanced navigational capabilities, improved application of weapons and capability to employ new weapons systems
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    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:49 am

    i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
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    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:50 am

    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...
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    Post  George1 on Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:59 am

    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...

    because the title is like it says the Tu-22m3 fate is in doubt..
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    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:24 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...

    because the title is like it says the Tu-22m3 fate is in doubt..

    Yep, the other thread already had its title changed, this one should as well.
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    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:10 am

    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...

    because the title is like it says the Tu-22m3 fate is in doubt..

    Yep, the other thread already had its title changed, this one should as well.

    i hope Garry listen to us Smile
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:12 am

    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...

    because the title is like it says the Tu-22m3 fate is in doubt..

    Yep, the other thread already had its title changed, this one should as well.

    I listen... Smile

    remember I live on the other side of the planet to you guys so when I am at work or online you guys are probably sleeping... I have to sleep too sometimes... Smile

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    Post  George1 on Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:00 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...

    because the title is like it says the Tu-22m3 fate is in doubt..

    Yep, the other thread already had its title changed, this one should as well.

    I listen... Smile

    remember I live on the other side of the planet to you guys so when I am at work or online you guys are probably sleeping... I have to sleep too sometimes... Smile

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    Post  Mike E on Sat Sep 13, 2014 1:04 am

    GarryB wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:
    Mike E wrote:
    George1 wrote:i think also this thread's title should change to "Tu-22M3: news" or sth like that
    Agreed once again...

    because the title is like it says the Tu-22m3 fate is in doubt..

    Yep, the other thread already had its title changed, this one should as well.

    I listen... Smile

    remember I live on the other side of the planet to you guys so when I am at work or online you guys are probably sleeping... I have to sleep too sometimes... Smile

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