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    Post  par far on Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:20 am

    We all know that Islam is not a peaceful religion, in Europe they are raping, killing, beheading and causing all sorts of trouble. This is actually true for the rest of the world, wherever muslims are.

    There are more than 25 million Muslims living in Russia, in the future, do you guys think they will cause the same problems that they are causing in the Western countries? If yes, how does Russia deal with the problems? Can Russia survive in the future with so many Muslims? What is the future of Muslims in Russia? What is the future of Russia with Muslims?
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    Post  PhSt on Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:12 am

    If Muslims continue to multiply in great numbers and forms a significant percentage of Russian population in the future, this could spell disaster for the entire country. This is why Russia needs to formulate a plan to De-Islamize the country and aim to convert the country's population to the ROC. Perhaps China's actions in Xinjiang would be a great example to follow, except in Russia's case, Muslims will be converted to ROC instead of being taught secularism.

    The problem with teaching muslims with secularism is that it is not permanent. For example, during the Soviet era, muslims in the stan republics have been successfully secularized. However, when the SU collapsed, since they still think that they are muslims, they reverted back to their religious roots. But, if they have been converted to another religion (like the ROC), then there is a very small chance that they will convert back to Islam since they associate their new religion as part of their way of life or culture.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Oct 25, 2020 1:14 am

    PhSt wrote:If Muslims continue to multiply in great numbers and forms a significant percentage of Russian population in the future, this could spell disaster for the entire country...

    Europe will be caliphate long before this happens

    And that is victory


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    Post  miketheterrible on Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:26 am

    Islam is at best 10% in Russia for religious people. The majority (80% is Orthodox). There are also a lot of bhuddists and other groups.
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:14 am

    Would be more worried about invasion by US crackpot religions like JOHOS and Mormons and Scientology nutters and of course all the evangelical nutters... not to mention Roman catholics...
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    Post  jhelb on Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:28 pm

    par far wrote:We all know that Islam is not a peaceful religion, in Europe they are raping, killing, beheading and causing all sorts of trouble. This is actually true for the rest of the world, wherever muslims are.
    People who practice these disgusting eastern religions like Islam, Hindoism, Buddhism and other pagan religions tend to be inherently very violent.

    Preaching violence is embedded in these religions. Genocides, rapes are quite common in their 3rd world asian, african countries. This is their culture and they carry this culture with them to civilized European countries like Russia, Germany, Sweden and other countries. I was reading an article a few years ago where the writer mentioned that in Mumbai close to 150K people lose their lives every year while traveling in suburban railway. Most of these people are thrown off from the train by other passengers. Just gives you an idea how violent and disgusting colored people are.

    To placate muslims, Putin created one of Europe's largest mosque in Central Moscow. This mosque is now filled with illegals from asia.

    par far wrote:There are more than 25 million Muslims living in Russia, in the future, do you guys think they will cause the same problems that they are causing in the Western countries? If yes, how does Russia deal with the problems? Can Russia survive in the future with so many Muslims? What is the future of Muslims in Russia? What is the future of Russia with Muslims?
    This is a very important question. There is every possibility that Russia will soon have not just a massive Muslim population but a sizeable population of other colored people like Buddhists, Hindus, Blacks as well.

    Callous immigration policies are responsible for creating this very dangerous situation where ethnic Russian Slavs themselves will be reduced to about 50% of the population within the next 25 years.

    Moscow and St Pete has been completely overrun by Muslims and people of color.

    My Dad is from Minsk and my mother is from Volvograd. Even in these relatively small cities - Minsk, Volvograd, Kiev the percentage of people of color has skyrocketed. This is putting tremendous pressure on limited resources that these cities have. Moscow Oblast is an area where ethnic Russians are already a minority community. This is driving up costs. People complain about Moscow and St Pete being expensive but who are these people driving up costs? Migrants like Muslims and several other colored people.

    Muslims, Blacks, Hindus, Buddhists etc enter Russia as tourists, businessman and students. However, once they are here they refuse to go back to their 3rd world state.

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:31 pm

    Geez, what do you have against Buddhism?

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    Post  jhelb on Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:52 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Geez, what do you have against Buddhism?
    Buddhism is basically Hindoism. Hardly any difference. Buddha was Hindu himself. Not just Islam, practitioners of these eastern religions are extremely violent. Large scale killings,rapes are a regular affair across South and South East Asia where people follow such backward religions.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:56 pm

    jhelb wrote:Buddhism is basically Hindoism. Hardly any difference.

    Islam is basically Christianity, hardly any difference

    Also, what the heck is wrong with Hindus?



    jhelb wrote:Buddha was Hindu himself.

    And Jesus was Jew himself



    jhelb wrote:Not just Islam, practitioners of these eastern religions are extremely violent.

    Oh yes, we still remember the horrific Crusades and Jihads waged by Buddhists and Hindus  lol1



    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Geez, what do you have against Buddhism?

    He just hates everyone  Cool


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:00 pm

    Buddha was a reformer of Hinduism in the same manner that Jesus was a reformer of Judaism.

    He forced Hinduism itself into reform which is why Buddhism does not dominate India today.



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    Post  ahmedfire on Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:27 pm

    The majority of Muslims there are native Russians/Caucasus ,i don't think there will be any issues ,Russians are not as ignorant of Islam as Americans are, so Islam to the Russians is on par with Christianity.

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    Post  GarryB on Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:28 am

    Russians are not as ignorant of Islam as Americans are, so Islam to the Russians is on par with Christianity.

    Treat them as alien monsters and they will start acting like alien monsters...

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    Post  jhelb on Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:28 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Also, what the heck is wrong with Hindus?
    A barbaric race of people. People killing each other in the name of caste, community even to this day. Already gave you the example of Mumbai sub urban railways where people toss one another out of a moving train.

    PapaDragon wrote: Oh yes, we still remember the horrific Crusades and Jihads waged by Buddhists and Hindus  lol1
    Incidents that took place thousands of years ago. They are not taking place today. OTOH all these Buddhist, Hindu states are ravaged by large scale killings that don't even require a war to trigger them off.

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Buddha was a reformer of Hinduism in the same manner that Jesus was a reformer of Judaism.

    He forced Hinduism itself into reform which is why Buddhism does not dominate India today.
    Hindus probably hold the record for killing more people from their religious group than either Christianity or even Islam. These killings in the name of caste, community are taking place regularly across India even today.

    Millions of Hindus enter Russia and other parts of Europe and also North America illegally to escape from their barbaric state. Problem is they bring their uncivilized practices with them to Russia and the west.

    Buddhism too has several sects. It's not a unified religion.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:48 am

    You seem to be misunderstood but the slaughter happening in India is done by Muslims towards Hindu's.

    I should know since I have seen some horrific shit while there.

    You are so full of shit jhelb, it's unbelievable. Might as well be reading Al Jazeera.

    Reason why crusades happened was due to Islamic barbarism on the pilgrims in the middle East. Eventually people got fed up and started funding mercenaries whom were Christians to protect them on their pilgrimages. Then it formed into companies which then later were molded through by both the Vatican and France.

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    Post  kvs on Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:29 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:You seem to be misunderstood but the slaughter happening in India is done by Muslims towards Hindu's.

    I should know since I have seen some horrific shit while there.

    You are so full of shit jhelb, it's unbelievable. Might as well be reading Al Jazeera.

    Reason why crusades happened was due to Islamic barbarism on the pilgrims in the middle East. Eventually people got fed up and started funding mercenaries whom were Christians to protect them on their pilgrimages. Then it formed into companies which then later were molded through by both the Vatican and France.

    Muslims are still running their slavery racket in North Africa and de facto in Saudi Arabia.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:12 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:You seem to be misunderstood but the slaughter happening in India is done by Muslims towards Hindu's.

    I should know since I have seen some horrific shit while there.

    You are so full of shit jhelb, it's unbelievable. Might as well be reading Al Jazeera.

    Reason why crusades happened was due to Islamic barbarism on the pilgrims in the middle East. Eventually people got fed up and started funding mercenaries whom were Christians to protect them on their pilgrimages. Then it formed into companies which then later were molded through by both the Vatican and France.

    Muslims are still running their slavery racket in North Africa and de facto in Saudi Arabia.


    Every single damn terrorist attack is Muslim.  The media tries to fool retards (which works) saying white supremacy is the threat while "religion of peace™" is only select few. Yet there is a website such as religion of peace that breaks down terrorist attacks around the world, tally of the dead and which religion did it and boom, you will find Islam surpasses nearly every religion a thousand fold.

    Hell, Buddhists are known to be extremely passive people yet even the damn Bengladeshies in Myanmar have pissed these people off to the point they are fighting back.

    What's worst is that everywhere they are, they bitch and moan about how poorly they are treated yet they stir the most trouble.  They were not native to Myanmar and thus drove out many from villages. Then when tables turned "waahh poor us!".

    Grozny was a Christian city for Cossacks.  How many Christian cossacks live there now?

    Constantinople?  Yeah, Istanbul now.

    Egypt?  All Islam now.

    India? They praise their story about "mountains of skulls" where they massacred over 100,000 Hindus in a single month.  The Kitaj Minard was built over a Hindu temple by the "slave emperor" after his conquest.  I seen it myself. Took pictures of remains of what we're initially Hindu artwork.  Not to mention flooding into Kashmir and then splitting it apart and then demanding it all. Yet Hindu's most holy artifact for Lord Shiva is located in the mountains in Kashmir.  Hindus were driven from their homes and still are in Kashmir.  Then there are the rapes and murders where the media explicitly tries to hide that they were Muslims doing it cause the Muslims then protest and riot even more saying how they are misunderstood.

    Then there is Somalia.  That cluster fuck is beyond repair.

    Nigeria?  Poorest and worst area screaming of terrorism is in the north, which is....Muslim.  breeding ground for terrorism.

    The list is fricking endless.

    This political correctness funded by Saudi Arabia on our government and authorities, preventing us from actually stating the obvious and truth, is what creates people like Jhelb - poorly educated morons who spew nonsense against other groups yet defends Muslims whom are among the worst offenders.

    Yet, I still have friends whom are Muslim and also acknowledge there is a problem and things need to change.  So they aren't oblivious to it.  Just that due to marrying first cousins which causes major issues in offsprings (making them retarded), and fact they build villages worth of people from a single couple, means there is a massive amount of potential issues to say the least.

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    Post  George1 on Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:10 pm

    No. Kazan the 3rd capital of Russia has muslim population majority
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    Post  PapaDragon on Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:36 pm

    jhelb wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Also, what the heck is wrong with Hindus?
    A barbaric race of people. People killing each other in the name of caste, community even to this day.  

    And that is different from what Muslims and Christians are doing how exactly?



    jhelb wrote:Already gave you the example of Mumbai sub urban railways where people toss one another out of a moving train.

    I guess you never been to Mexico, have you?



    jhelb wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote: Oh yes, we still remember the horrific Crusades and Jihads waged by Buddhists and Hindus  lol1
    Incidents that took place thousands of years ago. They are not taking place today.

    Jihad is literally happening as we speak

    Crusades as well

    Sneak preview of just one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict



    Just admit that you are some butthurt Pakistani fanboy and nothing more Cool

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    Post  miketheterrible on Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:58 pm

    George1 wrote:No. Kazan the 3rd capital of Russia has muslim population majority

    Barely. At 47% compared to 41% Russian Orthodox. Hence why you can see churches and mosques literally across the street from each other.
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    Post  kvs on Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:11 pm

    George1 wrote:No. Kazan the 3rd capital of Russia has muslim population majority

    Russia "conquered" these Muslims that is why they are behaving normally today. In the eyes of Russia haters Russia deprived them
    of their golden future as a Salafi toilet.

    Note that Russia did not foist Orthodox Christianity on its Muslim peoples. But Catholic states like Poland and Lithuania forced
    Catholicism down the throats of Russians (people of the Kievan Rus which developed regional identity Ukrainian and Belorussian
    "ethnicities").

    An important detail being missed is that the current loony tunes Salafi Islam is a product of American led meddling in the Middle East
    as part of the Cold War on the USSR. During the 1960s Afghanistan was still sane and there was no whiff of any Taliban and
    the same goes for basically everywhere else. The source of the terrorist rot is US protectorate Saudi Arabia and its open
    campaign to radicalize Islam through funding of radical interpretations of the Koran. The reach of the Saudis is around the world
    and as far as the precious west itself. Their money stokes the terrorism and we have lost the moderate Islam that we had 50 years
    ago and which still manages to exist in Russia.

    Chechnya is a good example of why sanity prevails in Russia. Russia stopped the installation of Wahabbism in Chechnya. This
    was being done by Washington and its minions. Wahabbism is a heretical sect of Islam originating in Saudi Arabia and likely
    a concoction of western powers. It is heretical because it makes a revisionist interpretation of the Koran.

    I know that the tolerance level to non-believers in Islam is unbalanced. But we have seen that today's Salafi toilets were
    vastly more balanced until western meddling screwed everything up.

    I hope that Russia hating Poolish maggot Bzezhinski rots in Hell for eternity.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:47 pm

    Fun Fact: VVP's highest approval ratings are in Chechnya, sitting at approximately 90% approval rating in any given year.

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    Post  GarryB on Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:24 am

    A barbaric race of people. People killing each other in the name of caste, community even to this day.

    From any other perspective the destruction of law and order in Syria and Libya and Iraq and elsewhere because the government did not suit the west to then bomb them and fund terrorist groups to do terrible things.... FUNDED BY WHITE WESTERN CHRISTIANS...

    They interfere all over the world where it suits... which normally means one of the 1% has money involved or it can hurt an enemy or there is oil.

    The HATO intervention in Serbia to create Kosovo was called a moral war to save those poor innocent Albanians from evil Serbian oppression... the huge irony is that if you look at the Baltic States and Ukraine banning the Russian language they are imposing more oppression on their Russian speaking citizens than Serbia ever imposed on the Albanians living in Kosovo... but the defensive organisation called HATO was happy to bomb people in a country they had nothing to do with and no legal right or responsibility to get involved with.

    We openly see the US and EU trying to limit and damage Russia and China politically and economically... what is less obvious is that they do that to everybody behind the scenes... even each other....

    BTW the only terrorist incident we ever had in New Zealand was an Aussie immigrant... the incidents in Waco and that Timothy McVeitch guy that blew up that bomb outside a US government building were not muslim either...

    I would say the sanctions and bombing over the last 30 years in Iraq weren't muslim attacks... they were US/et al attacks that were vastly more deadly than any muslim attack.

    Ironically HATO supported the ethnic cleansing of Kosovo of Serbs and their sacred sights...

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    Post  jhelb on Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:22 am

    miketheterrible wrote:You are so full of shit jhelb, it's unbelievable. Might as well be reading Al Jazeera.
    Yet the person who visits shitholes like India is you not me.

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Jihad is literally happening as we speak

    Crusades as well
    Jihad is happening because muslims are being indoctrinated by radical Islamic literature sponsored by Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar. The US and UK spreads Islamic terrorism across the world. Majority of muslim radical groups find shelter in UK and Canada. Both these two governments also provide support to Islamic terrorism.

    No Christian group is carrying out any crusade anywhere in the world. There is no Christian equivalent of ISIS or Al-Qaeda who are going around beheading non Christians.

    PapaDragon wrote:Just admit that you are some butthurt Pakistani fanboy and nothing more
    Pakistan? Unlike you I don't have friends from all the low places.

    GarryB wrote:BTW the only terrorist incident we ever had in New Zealand was an Aussie immigrant... the incidents in Waco and that Timothy McVeitch guy that blew up that bomb outside a US government building were not muslim either...
    Isolated, lone wolf incident. No concrete evidence to suggest any White supremacist group was involved.

    Whites are smart people with one of the highest IQ in the world. Also, we are a small minority. Just about 20% people in the world are White people. Orthodox Christians like us will never go around harming innocent people. It's not our culture.

    Low IQ muslims who spend hours listening to jihadi lectures in mosques carry out far more violent attacks across the world.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Oct 27, 2020 6:24 pm

    Pakistan? Unlike you I don't have friends from all the low places.

    Low places ?

    Unless you are an old-school first-generation racist, you know it is wrong to judge people more harshly because of their race or ethnicity or the way they dress or the way they eat .

    Did you even checked some statistics ?

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    Post  jhelb on Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:20 pm

    ahmedfire wrote:Unless you are an old-school first-generation racist, you know it is wrong to judge people more harshly because of their race or ethnicity or the way they dress or the way they eat .
    See we are two of a kind. Muslims are racist too. During Haj first the Arabs are allowed to enter, then non Arab muslims and eventually Black Muslims.

    The biggest financiers and supporters of Islamic terrorism the world over are muslim countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Qatar and UAE. Almost all the major terrorist attacks in the last 3 decades including but not restricted to Moscow Theater attack, Beslan, Metrojet Flight, Boston bombing, Mumbai attacks were carried out by muslims.

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