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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:36 am


    I thought that I was the only one who watches The Quartering here

    Although I watch it for entertainment news and humour Cool
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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:11 am

    Jermey isn't bad. He gets a lot of good evidence of stuff. I just agree with others he just follows trends not because he believes in them, but it earn him good money.

    But I do like the reports.
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    Post  kvs Wed Apr 14, 2021 5:20 am

    It would be tin foil hat level thinking to pretend that YouCrap is not manipulating all the key parameters relevant for its revenues
    and for pushing the PC totalitarian agenda. Who reports on these details has zero relevance. The usual trick to attack the
    messenger and not the message.

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    Post  Finty Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:00 pm

    From the Beeb- Russia will face 'consequences' if Navalny dies - US

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56794744


    BBC wrote:The US has warned Russia there will be "consequences" if the opposition activist Alexei Navalny dies in jail.

    The UK, France, Germany and the European Union have also expressed their concern over his treatment.

    Navalny's doctors say he "will die within the next few days" if not given urgent medical attention for acute back pain and leg numbness.

    Russia's ambassador to the UK has said that Navalny is attention seeking and "will not be allowed to die in prison".

    A prominent critic of President Vladimir Putin, Navalny, 44, was jailed in February for old embezzlement charges, which he claims are politically motivated.

    He started a hunger strike on 31 March in protest at not being able to see his own medical team, and his doctors say recent blood test results indicate he could suffer kidney failure and go into cardiac arrest at any moment.

    Human rights campaigners say the jail where Alexei Navalny is being held is known for its especially harsh conditions
    On Sunday, a number of countries joined the international protest against Navalny's treatment inside the Russian jail in the town of Pokrov, about 100 km (62 miles) east of Moscow.

    US national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN there would be "consequences if Mr Navalny dies" and Russia would be "held accountable by the international community", while President Joe Biden said his medical treatment was "totally unfair and totally inappropriate".

    The US is already embroiled in a diplomatic row with Russia over the near-fatal poisoning of Navalny last year, with the chemical warfare agent Novichock.

    The Kremlin denies Navalny's claims that President Vladimir Putin ordered the attack. But US intelligence officials concluded that the Moscow government was behind the poisoning, prompting the Biden administration to impose sanctions on senior Russian officials.

    Now Moscow is imposing its own measures in retaliation.

    EU leaders are expected to discuss the situation on Monday, and Josep Borrell, the bloc's top diplomat, said the EU was "deeply concerned" and called for prison authorities to grant access to Navalny's medical team immediately.

    The UK's Foreign Office said in a statement: "Mr Navalny must be given immediate access to independent medical care. We reiterate our call for his immediate release from his politically motivated imprisonment."

    Navalny's 20-year-old daughter, Daria Navalnaya, who is currently studying in California, wrote "allow a doctor to see my dad" on Twitter.

    Navalny's wife Yulia said he had lost 9kg (19 lbs) since starting his hunger strike, according to AP.

    Navalny's supporters in Russia are organising a nationwide protest on Wednesday, saying "there are circumstances in which you need to act quickly, otherwise the irreparable will happen".

    On Friday, four doctors wrote to prison officials to request permission to see Navalny urgently, saying his potassium had reached "critical levels".

    Dr Alexander Polupan, who treated Navalny after he was poisoned with Novichock last year, said his blood test results were an "absolute indication" that he needed urgent medical care or he would "die within the next [few] days".

    On Sunday, his personal physician, Anastasia Vasilyeva, who has previously been arrested for protesting outside Navalny's jail, tweeted that she and the three doctors had "stood for two hours and begged" to be let into the jail, but they were refused entry.

    Also joining the call for action are more than 70 well known writers, artists and academics, who have have signed a letter calling on President Putin to ensure Navalny receives adequate medical care.

    The letter was published in The Economist and France's Le Monde newspaper, and included the signatures of Hollywood actors Jude Law, Ralph Fiennes and Benedict Cumberbatch, Harry Potter author JK Rowling and director Ken Burns.

    In an interview with the BBC's Andrew Marr recorded on Friday but aired on Sunday, Russia's ambassador to the UK, Andrei Kelin, said that Navalny was not in danger.

    "Of course he will not be allowed to die in prison, but I can say that Mr Navalny behaves like a hooligan absolutely in trying to violate every rule that has been established," he said, adding that activist was attempting "to attract attention".
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:54 pm

    Finty wrote:From the Beeb- Russia will face 'consequences' if Navalny dies - US

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56794744

    BBC wrote:The US has warned Russia there will be "consequences" if the opposition activist Alexei Navalny dies in jail.

    The UK, France, Germany and the European Union have also expressed their concern over his treatment.

    Navalny's doctors say he "will die within the next few days" if not given urgent medical attention for acute back pain and leg numbness...


    Unless USA decide to off him he should be fine, he is less than nobody in Russia now

    Problem for Navalny is that he has become more useful dead than alive just like Nemtsov and Litvinenko before him

    That primadonna is serving sentence in a fucking summer camp, what kind of prison is safe enough that you can sleep with ear plugs and sateen eye mask in a room with 30 other convicts? (Look it up on YouTube if you don't trust me)

    In any other place on the planet you would need to sleep with one eye open in two man cell FFS

    So if I were him I would definitely watch my back because Uncle Sam needs some headlines and he is in perfect position to ''donate'' some...


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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:32 am

    US can earn of anything but as usual there isn't anything they can do.  They love to bark and do not bite.

    Also, by using such words, it just furthers prove Navalny's crime of being a US Patsy.

    I got to say though, I think the US is giving Russia a fantastic laugh.

    What Russia should do is sit and wait out the next few days and if Navalny survives, bring in the so called doctors and have their medical licenses removed (if they even got any).

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    Post  Backman Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:03 am

    Navalny is not worth any of this trouble. They should have denied him entry into Russia after he came back from Germany. Just don't let him in. He would have to go through the refugee process in Germany. That's not Russia's problem. Ban him from the CIS. He can have freedum outside of Russia.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:15 am

    A bit rich the BBC talking about the health of political prisoners... how is Assange by the way?

    Acute backpain and leg numbness.... are they symptoms of Novachok?

    Maybe Russia should play the same game and fake a package from the US government and put novachok in it... the question is.... should they intercept it before he opens it and it kills him or after? Twisted Evil

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    Post  Hole Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:06 pm

    I know why he is in bad shape. When was the last time he had a nose full of white powder? Wink

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:42 pm

    Hole wrote:I know why he is in bad shape. When was the last time he had a nose full of white powder? Wink
    Yup, cold turkey on all the substances he was taking, plus a hunger strike, would have an effect on anyone.

    Apparently his is now in the prison hospital on a vitamin diet!

    I think it was Peskov who yesterday said something like "he is held under better conditions than Jeffrey Epstein was" so piss of America.

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    Post  franco Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:04 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Hole wrote:I know why he is in bad shape. When was the last time he had a nose full of white powder? Wink
    Yup, cold turkey on all the substances he was taking, plus a hunger strike, would have an effect on anyone.

    Apparently his is now in the prison hospital on a vitamin diet!

    I think it was Peskov who yesterday said something like "he is held under better conditions than Jeffrey Epstein was" so piss of America.

    Plus being a diabetic not eating...

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    Post  kvs Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:37 pm

    Jordan Peterson became addicted to his anxiety medication and it nearly killed him.  It is very easy for a coke addict and diabetic
    to die due to complications from withdrawal.    If he gets the flu it can kill him outright when it would be run of the mill for
    health individuals.

    But we all know that the NATzO fake stream media never gives any context and fabricates stories.   Such as with the Kiev regime
    attack on the Donbass currently in progress.   No attention to shelling of residential areas by regime forces but endless lying about
    Russian "invasion" forces movements.

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    Post  Karl Haushofer Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:44 pm

    Navalny is more fanatical than I thought. Previously I thought that he was in it for personal benefit only. But the fact that he came back to Russia and went to prison at least shows that he is no coward. He is a traitor naturally, but apparently he is also prepared to make personal sacrifices to reach his goals (whatever they are).
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:17 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:He is a traitor naturally, but apparently he is also prepared to make personal sacrifices to reach his goals (whatever they are).

    Good, cuz this seditious shit is really gonna cost him dearly... Twisted Evil

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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:23 am

    Backman wrote:Navalny is not worth any of this trouble. They should have denied him entry into Russia after he came back from Germany. Just don't let him in. He would have to go through the refugee process in Germany. That's not Russia's problem. Ban him from the CIS.  He can have freedum outside of Russia.

    No, I think they are handling this twisted little comprador in the correct way. Make an example of this shitheaded fucker... let the other wanna-be traitorous scum know what will happen to them if they play stupid games.

    Once he has done his stint, he should have his citizenry cancelled and then deported. If the sausage-eaters want him, they can have him Twisted Evil

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:38 am

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Navalny is more fanatical than I thought. Previously I thought that he was in it for personal benefit only. But the fact that he came back to Russia and went to prison at least shows that he is no coward. He is a traitor naturally, but apparently he is also prepared to make personal sacrifices to reach his goals (whatever they are).

    No, he literally thought he was not gonna get prison sentence because he sniffed too many of his own farts to not realize he is not only unpopular, but that he isn't above the law.

    He figured he was gonna be out in short time and all was good. Then the case happened while he was there and he became off the hinge. Started spewing absolute nonsense, probably to try and get some kind of insanity plea.

    Guy is just a retard. Neither brave or smart.

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    Post  mavaff Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:43 am

    Does Russian Law allow to force feed him?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:17 pm

    mavaff wrote:Does Russian Law allow to force feed him?

    ...only if its another inmates excrement. Twisted Evil It's better than he deserves.
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    Post  lyle6 Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:50 pm

    Karl Haushofer wrote:Navalny is more fanatical than I thought. Previously I thought that he was in it for personal benefit only. But the fact that he came back to Russia and went to prison at least shows that he is no coward. He is a traitor naturally, but apparently he is also prepared to make personal sacrifices to reach his goals (whatever they are).

    Or he could've experienced a paroxysm of pragmatism when he realized he's rapidly reaching his shelf-life as a Lenin larper and would've been forced into early retirement from life as a martyr by his bioluminescent handlers sooner than he would have liked. He still wants to be president though, so he wouldn't do anything that would jeopardize the continuing support of his western patrons. Checking himself in at a Russian prison appears to be a good middle ground between keeping himself away from his handlers, while maintaining their support for him.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:20 pm

    He thought he would arrive in Russia covered in a nice safe blanket of expendable supporters... but that didn't work did it...

    Now he is having withdrawal symptoms and wanting some opiates to deal with the "pain".

    Yeah, right...

    Does Russian Law allow to force feed him?

    Normal procedure in most countries... in most countries suicide is illegal, so they would have to take steps to prevent it.
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:50 pm

    They can just give him nutrient injections

    That's how that Ukro artillery spotter woman spent her hunger strike. She was striking for over a hundred days but ended up with more weight than before. Because she gave her consent for such injections

    Navalny can elect to go down the same route, or he can just be sedated and injected

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:48 am


    Lenin Larper* is full of shit, plain and simple

    I already said that that prison is summer camp and I mean it

    If my school got the offer for hosting school trip and we were sent the photo of that​ dormitory and dining hall without telling us that it was supposed to be a prison we would have booked the full package no problem

    Seriously, when did Russian joints become so fancy?



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    Post  miketheterrible Wed Apr 21, 2021 6:41 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Lenin Larper* is full of shit, plain and simple

    I already said that that prison is summer camp and I mean it

    If my school got the offer for hosting school trip and we were sent the photo of that​ dormitory and dining hall without telling us that it was supposed to be a prison we would have booked the full package no problem

    Seriously, when did Russian joints become so fancy?



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    It's a European thing. Convicts get better treatment than victims. It's a problem here as well.

    It actually pisses society off even more too.

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    Post  franco Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:33 pm

    Lost pace: results of protests in support of Navalny

    On April 21, protests were held in major cities of Russia in support of opposition leader Alexei Navalny. The number of participants in the rallies turned out to be significantly lower than similar actions that took place in January. "Topical Comments" tells about the main results of the action by Navalny's team.

    Moscow and St. Petersburg

    The law enforcement bodies of the capital regions blocked the places declared for the rallies, since the actions were not coordinated with the authorities. For this reason, Navalny's comrades-in-arms tried to organize the procession, coordinating the actions of the protesters through telegram channels and a stream led by Maria Pevchikh and Leonid Volkov. At the same time, the protesters moved in different directions, Navalny's team was unable to plan common actions. Because of this, it is rather difficult to estimate the number of participants in the rallies. The White Counter organization also did not count. According to various sources, from 5 to 15 thousand people took part in the action in Moscow, from 5 to 10 thousand people in St. Petersburg, which is significantly lower than the indicators of the actions that took place in January 2021.

    The actual number of participants in the actions turned out to be significantly lower than the indicators stated on the map of the meeting. According to Volkov, 58.4 thousand people were supposed to leave in St. Petersburg, and 120.6 thousand people in Moscow. Obviously, the real number of protesters turned out to be ten times less.

    Regions

    At the last moment, supporters of Navalny in Vladivostok changed the place of the rally. None of the protesters shouted slogans or made speeches. The event itself lasted two hours and ended by 21:00. The protests passed without detention.

    Note that 4498 people have registered on the website in support of the oppositionist. As a result, according to media reports, from 400 to 1000 citizens took to the streets. The Primorye MIA Administration found it difficult to name the number of protesters. In protests.

    Residents of Khabarovsk went to Lenin Square. The protesters danced in circles and shouted slogans. The rally was held peacefully, without detentions. According to the site, 2,791 people were going to take part in it, as a result, from 800 to 1,000 citizens took to the streets.

    In Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky , about 30-40 opposition supporters gathered on the square near the "City of Military Glory" stele, kam24.ru reports. The protest action itself lasted about an hour and passed without detention. At the same time, 595 people were registered on the site. On January 23, over 200 citizens attended a rally in support of Navalny in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky.

    The protest action in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk did not actually take place. The event lasted about half an hour. The participants of the march walked about 1.5 km, after which the action ended. According to journalists, about 60 people took part in the rallies, while 835 users were registered on the site. The protests on January 23 in Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk were attended by 400 citizens.

    In Tomsk, the meeting lasted about an hour. According to journalists, several hundred people gathered at Novo-Cathedral Square. At the same time, 4156 people registered on the website in support of the oppositionist. About 3.5 thousand citizens took part in the January protests.

    In Novosibirsk , about 500 people came to the uncoordinated rally, the local newspaper Taiga.info reported. In turn, the observers said that about 2 thousand residents of the city took to the street. The event itself lasted no more than an hour. At the same time, 12.5 thousand people were registered on the site. In January, the action was supported by more than 4 thousand citizens.

    In Ulan-Ude , according to various estimates, 100-200 people took part in the action. According to Baikal Daily, there were many times more journalists wearing bright green vests. At the same time, 1,336 people were registered on the site. On January 23, in Ulan-Ude, according to various sources, about three hundred to four hundred people gathered on the square of the Opera and Ballet Theater.

    By about 21.00, all the participants of the rally in Chita dispersed from the Revolution Square, only the police officers remained. The protesters danced and sang the Russian national anthem. According to the estimates of Chita.Ru journalists, the number of participants in the action was about 50 people. In turn, 1029 users were registered on the site. In January, about 300 residents of the city took part in the rallies.

    In Irkutsk, the rally began at the Vostsibugol building. The area in front of the regional government building, on which it was originally planned, was covered with fences. According to media reports, about 600 people took part in the action. The protesters marched along Lenin Street, and an hour later they decided to disperse. The rally was held peacefully and without detention. In turn, 4674 users were registered on the site. In January, 5,000 people took to the streets in support of the oppositionist.

    In Magadan , no more than 50 people gathered for the rally, although it was originally planned that 307 citizens would take to the street. In January, about 150 people took to the streets to support the oppositionist. In Blagoveshchensk and Yakutsk, no one came to the rallies, and in Barnaul, security forces cordoned off the central square and did not let the protesters in.

    Detentions

    Observers note that the actions of the law enforcement agencies were correct. According to OVD-Info, there were significantly fewer arrests than during the January actions. As of 20:30 Moscow time, 410 protesters were detained throughout Russia. Most of all in Ufa - 54, Kemerovo - 37 and St. Petersburg - 35.

    Let us remind you that 3.3 thousand people were detained at the rallies on January 23.

    Outcomes

    The opposition does not agree that the number of participants in the rallies was noticeably lower than at the January protests. During the stream, Leonid Volkov said that "radically more people" came out than at the January rallies. It is noteworthy that in the frames that were published in the channels of Navalny's team, it is noticeable that fewer people came out in the regions.

    Obviously, it was not possible to reach the figure of 466 thousand protesters declared on the website of the rally.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:24 pm

    It's a European thing. Convicts get better treatment than victims. It's a problem here as well.

    Sadly NZ is the same... we spend more money on convicted criminals than we spend on our elderly... it is criminal...

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