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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg on Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:06 pm

    Navalny got poisoned. He's in a coma in hospital.
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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:26 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Navalny got poisoned. He's in a coma in hospital.

    Can you drop a link?

    So the 5th column are doing the same thing they did with Nemtzov to steer up more hatred and unrest for Russia?

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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:17 pm

    Another publicity stunt.

    Last thing he had was a cup of tea at Omsk airport.

    Also, this is third time in what, two years, he has been "poisoned"?  Ended up being nothing.

    https://tass.com/emergencies/1191813
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    Post  PhSt on Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:06 pm

    Werewolf wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Navalny got poisoned. He's in a coma in hospital.

    Can you drop a link?

    So the 5th column are doing the same thing they did with Nemtzov to steer up more hatred and unrest for Russia?

    Yep, just in time with the current NATO sponsored civil unrest in Belarus, perhaps they are betting on the momentum of events and are hoping to topple both leadership in one shot. Of course in the case of Russia something 'tragic' has to happen to give an excuse for protests so i guess Navalny will have to be sacrificed this time Laughing
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    Post  LMFS on Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:12 pm

    The doctors at the hospital say it is gastroenteritis, that didn't avoid him making a show at the airport Embarassed

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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:46 pm

    LMFS wrote:The doctors at the hospital say it is gastroenteritis, that didn't avoid him making a show at the airport Embarassed

    I believe that is the second time that this same diagnosis came in for this guy with the last episode of his.

    People keep falling for this crap.
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    Post  Werewolf on Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:58 pm

    Due to the mediawhores here in the West people really are on this kool-aid and believe that Putin is a dictator and that russians hate him and are slaves to the system. The russian people desparatley want Navalny to win.

    The western propaganda is so weak and blatant but apparently the IQ is low enough that this bullshit works so well.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:04 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Due to the mediawhores here in the West people really are on this kool-aid and believe that Putin is a dictator and that russians hate him and are slaves to the system. The russian people desparatley want Navalny to win.

    The western propaganda is so weak and blatant but apparently the IQ is low enough that this bullshit works so well.

    Well, it works on westerners. But not on Russians.
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    Post  AlfaT8 on Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:48 pm



    So, i guess he's trying to remain relevant again.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:51 pm

    https://antimaidan.ru/news/19131

    good breakdown. Everytime he wants to stay relevant, he has a "medical" injury of some sort.
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    Post  calripson on Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:43 pm

    Well, at least they are consistent. Nothing like dusting off the old playbook and calling the same play. Reminds of Yushchenko and his horribly convenient and conveniently horrible facial disfigurement at the hands of the evil Rooskies.

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    Post  Hole on Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:18 pm

    You should really think twice before beoming a western stooge. You never know when somebody in Washington decides that you´re of greater use for them dead then alife.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:15 pm

    calripson wrote:Well, at least they are consistent. Nothing like dusting off the old playbook and calling the same play. Reminds of Yushchenko and his horribly convenient and conveniently horrible facial disfigurement at the hands of the evil Rooskies.


    Indeed, they claimed it was Yanukovich using dioxin. Dioxin sounds horrible to the ignorant. It is not a lethal agent. Why would
    you use a poison that disfigures (chloracne) but does not guarantee a kill? Why not just use cyanide or thousands of other poisons
    that actually do the job?

    Every single case of "poisoning" claimed by western propaganda is rubbish. For example we have Litvinenko. Why use Polonium
    if you cannot handle it professionally and leave a convenient trail back to Moscow on some commercial airliner? Why use Polonium
    when it is harmless unless ingested? A tiny drop of VX on the skin can kill a human. The retarded hate spew coming out of NATzO
    has Russians and Putin in particular using Keystone Cops inept poisonings to off has been "critics". Putin did not have them offed
    when they mattered, he waited until they were fading into obscurity (years after their peak) and then used some flashy, signature
    "poison" to murder them. This may sound plausible to western sheep, but it is manifestly BS.

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    Post  LMFS on Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:43 pm

    All these bizarre and Hollywood-like ways of killing people have indeed the fingerprints of typical Anglo "blame the Russians" script all over them. You do not use completely sensationalistic, self incriminatory ways to kill a sad guy who you can access and make disappear in hundred inconspicuous ways. Such exotic means are only used against people (heads of state for instance) you don't have any kind of normal access to, like US tried many times with Castro. Against blokes living normal lives, suggesting such means are being used is absolutely ridiculous and rather a proof of a ploy carried out by your own intelligence services for political purposes.

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    Post  kvs on Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:27 pm

    LMFS wrote:All these bizarre and Hollywood-like ways of killing people have indeed the fingerprints of typical Anglo "blame the Russians" script all over them. You do not use completely sensationalistic, self incriminatory ways to kill a sad guy who you can access and make disappear in hundred inconspicuous ways. Such exotic means are only used against people (heads of state for instance) you don't have any kind of normal access to, like US tried many times with Castro. Against blokes living normal lives, suggesting such means are being used is absolutely ridiculous and rather a proof of a ploy carried out by your own intelligence services for political purposes.

    The key gap in the propaganda smear of Russia and Putin is motive. In all the alleged offing of "regime critics" there is never a solid motive.
    This includes Magnitsky and his death in jail. Some no name accountant working for a crook (Browder) is not a prime target for silencing
    no matter how many lies he spews. In fact, as with Litvinenko, these supposed "victims of the regime" were indirect assets. Litvinenko
    spread all sort of inanity that discredited himself such as his claim that Russia was behind the Mohammed cartoon scandal in Denmark.
    If he was still around he would have claimed that the Charlie Hebdo incident was Russia's fault too. The same goes for Magnitsky whose
    cheesy lies about a big conspiracy by the cops would have melted away in court the moment it was put forward. Hermitage Capital engaged
    in violation of Russia's laws with all sorts of schemes without a shred of a doubt. Magnitsky would not have been able to debunk the
    case against himself and Browder. In fact, he could have cracked or made a plea deal since facing hard jail time while Browder was
    free in the west would have been a bit too much to take. So Browder had the motive to shut Magnitsky up. Putin had no
    such motive and, again, why go after a nobody when Khodorkovsky was untouched and is now a prime financier of sedition in Russia.

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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:35 am

    I will add that there is a clear double standard when it comes to evaluating events in Russia. It is utterly schizophrenic. Hermitage
    Capital's schemes to bypass the law against the sale of Gazprom shares to foreigners was not some technicality. It was a
    pure crime under Russian law. Let's see Browder's supporters try to pull the same rackets to avoid the IRS and US financial laws.
    They will be steamrolled and sent to jail for decades like the owners of Adelphia Cable. What these owners did was nowhere near
    the criminality of Browder and his grifting operation. Yet, somehow if the authorities in Russia try to enforce the law against clear
    violators of said law, then it is a big corrupt conspiracy of Putin's tyranny. Get f*cked you western turdballs. Your bloody hypocrite
    sanctimony oozing from that infinite pool of hate you wallow in is not worth the time of day.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:28 am

    What's funny is that he was handed the tea by his assistant who claims he was poisoned.

    https://twitter.com/leon_elk/status/1296436166741372931?s=20

    And they were given multiple teas. So yeah....

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    Post  kvs on Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:45 am

    miketheterrible wrote:What's funny is that he was handed the tea by his assistant who claims he was poisoned.

    https://twitter.com/leon_elk/status/1296436166741372931?s=20

    And they were given multiple teas. So yeah....

    Naturally this video evidence will be ignored. But the NATzO fake stream media dog keeps barking as the Russian (and Chinese,
    and other) caravan keeps moving. The west and its huffing and puffing are getting to be a bigger and bigger joke every day.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 21, 2020 4:46 am

    Well, pussy riot funded plane from Germany is to land in Moscow expecting to take Navalny.

    Personally, I say do not let him leave Russia as he will probably end up dead in Germany.
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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:35 am

    So far, no poisons found in his system according to key doctor monitoring and working on him

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:33 pm

    https://www.rt.com/russia/498637-navalny-diagnosis-low-blood-sugar/

    So no poisoning at all. The FBK members were jumping over nothing
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    Post  JohninMK on Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:57 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Well, pussy riot funded plane from Germany is to land in Moscow expecting to take Navalny.

    Personally, I say do not let him leave Russia as he will probably end up dead in Germany.

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    Post  miketheterrible on Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:14 pm

    Of course they won't because he will die if he is lifted again. But of course, because the doctors are Russian means they are stupid

    BTW, for most who don't know - Russia is one of the leading nations for health tourism. Meaning, people from around the world pay money to see a Russian doctor.

    I wonder why.....
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    Post  GarryB on Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:39 pm

    Statistically he is not important... if he is the wests greatest weapon against Putin then good... sharpen him as much as you like... trot him out as much as you please...

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    Post  calripson on Fri Aug 21, 2020 3:38 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:So far, no poisons found in his system according to key doctor monitoring and working on him


    I am sure once he gets to Germany "sophisticated testing" will detect the presence of ...you name it. This script has already been written in Langley.

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