Libyan Crisis #2

medo wrote:I don't think Syria send any But to Libya, they need them at home against Turks and Israelis. Most probably Egypt deliver some.

Egyptian Army to intervene 'at Libyans’ request, withdraw upon their order': Sisi to tribal chiefs .

One of the parties to the Libyan conflict fell under control of a foreign power.

The Egyptian Army, in the even of intervening, will be led by Libyans carrying the Libyan flag ,he added that the army intervention in Libya has to be approved by the Egyptian House of Representatives.

Egyptian Army to intervene 'at Libyans’ request, withdraw upon their order'

“Egypt has the strongest Army is the region and Africa,” Sisi said, adding that it is, however, wise and does not assail or invade other territories.

Sisi said that one of the parties to the Libyan conflict has become under the control of a foreign power that uses this faction for certain purposes in the region, regardless of the Libyan national interest.

Concerning intervention in Libya, the President said Egypt has always stood by a peaceful solution in Libya through encouraging negotiations between Libyan factions. However, it will not stand idly as it watches activities that threaten Egypt’s national security.

To οπλοστάσιο του Εθνικού Στρατού της Λιβύης (LNA) εξοπλίστηκε με περισσότερα ρωσικά όπλα από τη Συρία, αναφέρουν πολλαπλές πηγές, ενώ σημειώνεται πως τα στρατεύματα του Χαφτάρ απολαμβάνουν και την άμεση και έμπρακτη υποστήριξη του προέδρου της Συρίας, Μπασάρ αλ Άσαντ.


Σύμφωνα με διάφορες πηγές, ως μέρος της βοήθειας προς τον Εθνικό Στρατό της Λιβύης (LNA) με επικεφαλής τον Χαλίφα Χαφτάρ, η Συρία έχει μεταφέρει συστήματα αεροπορικής άμυνας στο οπλοστάσιο της βορειοαφρικανικής χώρας.

Μιλάμε για τα συστήματα αεροπορικής άμυνας Pantsir-S και Buk-M2E που είχαν προηγουμένως παραδοθεί στην Αραβική Δημοκρατία, ενώ και τα δύο συστήματα έχουν αποδείξει ιδιαιτέρως τη δύναμή τους εναντίον των τουρκικών UAV.

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Σύμφωνα με το Southfront, στις 12 Ιουλίου 2020, ο στρατός της Συρίας υποστήριξε τον Εθνικό Στρατό της Λιβύης στέλνοντας αριθμό συστημάτων αεροπορικής άμυνας Pantsir-S από το απόθεμα της Δαμασκού.

Παρόλο που δεν υπάρχουν επίσημες τοποθετήσεις για το θέμα, υπάρχουν επίσης πληροφορίες ότι τουλάχιστον τρία συστήματα αεροπορικής άμυνας Buk-M2E έχουν φτάσει στη Λιβύη, τα οποία έχουν αποδειχθεί εξαιρετικά ικανά στην αποτελεσματική αντιμετώπιση των τουρκικών επιθετικών αεροσκαφών, εξουδετερώνοντας περισσότερα από 30 drones, σύμφωνα με στα ρωσικά μέσα ενημέρωσης.

Όλα αυτά τη στιγμή που η Αίγυπτος φέρεται να έχει αναπτύξει συγκροτήματα S-300 στα σύνορα με τη Λιβύη, ως προετοιμασία για την πρώτη χρήση τους εδώ και 40 χρόνια.

Η Αίγυπτος μπορεί να γίνει η πρώτη χώρα στον κόσμο που άρχισε να χρησιμοποιεί τα σοβιετικά-ρωσικά συστήματα αεροπορικής άμυνας εναντίον αεροσκαφών του ΝΑΤΟ και σε πραγματική μάχη. Σύμφωνα με τα διαθέσιμα δεδομένα, ο αιγυπτιακός στρατός έχει αναπτύξει μια συστοιχία αεροπορικής άμυνας S-300V στα σύνορα με τη Λιβύη, ελέγχοντας πλήρως μια ακτίνα 250 χλμ. Τα τουρκικά F-16, που μπορούν να στοχοποιήσουν βάσεις του LNA, θα είναι ο κύριος στόχος αυτών των συστημάτων.

Η ανάπτυξη αιγυπτιακών συστημάτων αεροπορικής άμυνας στα σύνορα με τη Λιβύη φέρεται να συνδέεται με τις πρόσφατες ασκήσεις, ωστόσο, η Αίγυπτος δεν κρύβει το γεγονός ότι τα συγκροτήματα θα ενεργοποιηθούν και τεθούν σε πλήρη επιχειρησιακή λειτουργία εάν η Τουρκία προσπαθήσει να οργανώσει την παραμικρή πρόκληση εναντίον του στρατού του Χαφτάρτ.

Στην Άγκυρα, η οποία γνωρίζει καλά ότι το Κάιρο δεν θα αστειευτεί και θα χρησιμοποιήσει αυτήν την άμυνα κατά των αεροσκαφών το συντομότερο δυνατό, έχει προκληθεί ιδιαίτερη ανησυχία για την αιγυπτιακή κινητοποίηση, ενώ αξίζει να σημειωθεί πως παρά τη λήξη των αιγυπτιακών στρατιωτικών ασκήσεων, οι S-300 έχουν παραμείνει ανεπτυγμένοι σε θέσεις στα λιβυκά σύνορα.

Μεταξύ άλλων, υπάρχουν στοιχεία ότι η Αίγυπτος ανέπτυξε επίσης συγκροτήματα Buk-M2E στα σύνορα με τη Λιβύη, τα οποία, είχαν προηγουμένως μεταφερθεί στο οπλοστάσιο του LNA από τον συριακό στρατό, όπως αναφέραμε παραπάνω. Πράγματι, μέχρι σήμερα, ο στρατός της Λιβύης είναι καλά εξοπλισμένος με ικανά συστήματα αεροπορικής άμυνας, ώστε να μπορεί να απωθήσει μεγάλες απειλές.

The Libyan National Army (LNA) arsenal has been equipped with more Russian weapons than Syria, according to multiple sources, and Haftar's troops enjoy the direct and practical support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.


According to various sources, as part of aid to the Libyan National Army (LNA) led by Khalifa Haftar, Syria has deployed air defense systems to the North African country's arsenal.

We are talking about the Pantsir-S and Buk-M2E air defense systems that were previously delivered to the Arab Republic, while both systems have proven their strength against Turkish UAVs.

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According to Southfront, on July 12, 2020, the Syrian army supported the Libyan National Army by sending a number of Pantsir-S air defense systems from Damascus stockpile.

Although there are no official positions on the matter, there are also reports that at least three Buk-M2E air defense systems have arrived in Libya, which have proven extremely capable of effectively dealing with Turkish attack aircraft, neutralizing more than 30 drones, according to Russian media.

All this at a time when Egypt is said to have deployed S-300 units on the border with Libya, in preparation for their first use in 40 years.

Egypt may become the first country in the world to use Soviet-Russian air defense systems against NATO aircraft in a real battle. According to available data, the Egyptian army has deployed an S-300V air defense array on the border with Libya, fully controlling a radius of 250 km. Turkish F-16s, which can target LNA bases, will be the main target of these systems.

The development of Egyptian air defense systems on the border with Libya is said to be linked to recent exercises, however, Egypt does not hide the fact that the units will be activated and put into full operation if Turkey tries to organize the slightest challenge against it. of Haftart.

Ankara, which is well aware that Cairo will not joke and will use this defense against the aircraft as soon as possible, has been particularly concerned about the Egyptian mobilization, and it is worth noting that despite the end of the Egyptian military exercises, the S -300 have remained deployed in positions on the Libyan border.

Among other things, there is evidence that Egypt has also deployed Buk-M2E units on the border with Libya, which had previously been transferred to the LNA arsenal by the Syrian army, as mentioned above. Indeed, to date, the Libyan army is well equipped with adequate air defense systems to repel major threats.

medo wrote:
Intersting, it seems the main supplier of air defense to LNA are Syria and Egypt. Syrian deliveries to Libya is quite degrading already too small Syrian air defense to protect all important objects against Israel and Turkey. it's not surprising, that we now could read, how bad are Russian SAMs, that they could not stop Israeli attacks, turkish drones, etc. They sell them, same as planes. Most probably UAE pay well for them. I wonder, who are the crews there. Syrians or Egyptians?

Follow the money. Just as one of the main reasons Turkey is in Libya is money so too no doubt is Syria's.

Both countries are desperate for foreign currency.

Isos wrote:Syria can't send pantsirs in Libya. They don't have enough to protect their troops with all the available stock, wtf would they send some there ?

They are either russians or UEA. Russia would happily sell its own pantsir-S1 as they plan to buy more SM variant. Money will be used for more SM to replace the ones being sold.

Source is southfront. Don't expect any truth in their words.

Follow the money. Just as one of the main reasons Turkey is in Libya is money so too no doubt is Syria's.

Both countries are desperate for foreign currency.

The money Turkey makes with GNA is nothing compare to what they would win if they can extract the gas in the mediteranean and for which they made an agreement with GNA about borders.

I'm not sure but wasn't the last Pantsir we saw on a truck on a Russian truck not MAN, so eliminating UAE?

medo wrote:Anyone have any information regarding Algeria? As I know, they also don't like Turks and their terrorists in Libya. Egypt is talking, but Algeria is quiet and also have vera strong military.

ahmedfire wrote:Erdogan has visited Tunisia before ,he asked them to give permission to use their lands by Turkish army but Tunisia refused .

Isos wrote:
Anyway I don't understand LNA side. Turkey doesn't hide the fact they support GNA with terrorists. Egyptian air force could wipe out turkish systems (drones, AD, vehicles, cargo ships) in one attack and probably end the war. Turkey isn't a major power. They have nothing to threat anyone really. Just attack them like they attack you.

PapaDragon wrote:
2000$ to 800$?

Damn, that's harsh

JohninMK wrote:Until the GNA can get the oil flowing this lack of money will be a growing problem, so very unhappy but trapped operatives.

The food and water (plus sanitation) needed by all those GNA and terrorist fighters strung out in their technicals along roads must be a big burden as well.

Cyberspec wrote:For some reason, they haven't attacked the columns yet

ahmedfire wrote:Today LNA conducted a test launch of the P-15 Termit anti-ship missile.

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19 July: Video of #LNA P-15 Termit / Styx / SS-N-2 missile ‘test’ launch in position 32.0174361, 24.7633389, IVO Zawiyat Zanzur. Nosediving suggests no guidance control. Launch largely symbolic and serving little military purpose. #Libya