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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:39 am

    GarryB wrote:
    some Western folks make profits from those accounts, but soon the game will be over, so don't u worry.
    That is pathetic... then why not seize those funds and hand them completely over to those western folks who make profits from those accounts and just pocket the rest?... but they wont touch Putins ill gotten gains...-stay tuned!

    Navalny had taken a large dose of lithium, diazepam, nordazepam, oxazepam, and temazepam,
    So not novachok in his underpants at all....  what a surprise...
    it seems they didn't take back the CW of novichok family use on him; to me it's like smoke & mirrors, every week there's something new coming out form all sides. I watched the clip with Navalny's phone conversation with Kudryavtsev, where he described in detail how the poison was applied to his underware. The gov. propaganda claimed that it was fake, w/o any other expert opinion/proof showing that it was so.
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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:33 pm

    Ah yes, the fabled Putins Billions.

    You know guys, the one that:
    1) no one provided proof he has billions
    2) where the money is located
    3) why they didn't seize it.

    I mean Panama papers didn't even state it. But because tabloids say he has it, it must be true! The west never lies of course!
    *Cough*Benghazi, Iraq, Yugoslavia, USSR, Iranian Nukes, Bashir Gas attacks, etc*cough*. Oh excuse me. Must be my allergies to Tsavors retarded bullshit.

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    Post  kvs Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:56 pm

    Typical hate propaganda narratives. You "establish" a lie by repeating it enough and then it becomes "common knowledge".
    That is the sort of racist-think at the core of Tsavo troll-tards drivel.

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:15 pm

    kvs wrote:Typical hate propaganda narratives.   You "establish" a lie by repeating it enough and then it becomes "common knowledge".
    That is the sort of racist-think at the core of Tsavo troll-tards drivel.


    The funniest of all of this crap is that they all repeat each other. Seriously. They do this purposely. They quote one another and it becomes very hard to distinguish who posted the nonsense first. But I believe it was the BBC that lied about it back in 2009 or so. The rest is just repeated.

    Its very funny and rather sad to be honest.

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    Post  kvs Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:17 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:Typical hate propaganda narratives.   You "establish" a lie by repeating it enough and then it becomes "common knowledge".
    That is the sort of racist-think at the core of Tsavo troll-tards drivel.


    The funniest of all of this crap is that they all repeat each other.  Seriously.  They do this purposely.  They quote one another and it becomes very hard to distinguish who posted the nonsense first.  But I believe it was the BBC that lied about it back in 2009 or so.  The rest is just repeated.

    Its very funny and rather sad to be honest.  

    The origin of the Putin billions drivel is a single blogger who provided zero proof. This blog post "went viral" in the Russia hating western information
    toilet space. So we have troll-tards like Tasvo Lion-turd stinking up this forum with it.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:45 am

    Putin is smart enough to keep his $ & assets under others' names- the evidence is circumstantial, & there is preponderance of it.

    The collapse of the USSR: how a hereditary aristocracy appeared after the collapse of the empire

    BULK SANCTIONS

    Russian Authorities Redouble Pressure to Preserve Crimeans’ Loyalty

    Putin May Cripple the US’s Strongest Voice in Russia

    Dumb armed collective farm: the essence of Putinism and the consequences of the failure of the protest

    FSB officers, who are associated with the poisoning of Alexei Navalny, may be involved in both of the poisonings of Vladimir Kara-Murza in May 2015 and February 2017, Bellingcat found out (the investigation was prepared jointly with The Insider and Der Spiegel). Based on the data on the movements of the security forces, the investigators found out that they followed the politician in seven cities.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW5GmgCOTHE

    Gordon on whether Navalny will become Russian President and new Bellingcat investigations

    EU Starts Work on Russia Sanctions Over Navalny Imprisonment


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    Post  par far Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:42 am

    Everyone one of these people need to be blacklisted and ousted in public.

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/enemies-of-the-motherland-must-be-known-by-name/

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:04 am

    From the same shitty site: ALEKSEY NAVALNY IS THE GRANDSON OF A NAZI AUXILIARY POLICEMAN

    But they don't mention that his father was a Soviet Army officer.
    Former Chairman of USJCS Gen. Shalikashvili had a Nazi collaborator father who later became a major in the Waffen SS. A. Schwarzenegger, who became California Governor, also had a Nazi father.
    Putin's Grandfather was the Cook of Stalin and Lenin, the 2 Bolvevik/CPSU bloody dictators.
    G. A. Nasser allegedly had a picture of Hitler above his desk.
    Welcome to the small world!


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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:54 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Putin is smart enough to keep his $ & assets under others' names- the evidence is circumstantial, & there is preponderance of it.

    Errr.... sorry Einstein, but funds in someone elses account, or real estate in their name, actually makes it THEIR wealth.  Russia is a nation of laws (even if those laws differ somewhat from those in Western courtrooms) so pls explain how this is supposed to work?  How does your imaginary Oligarch-Putin exercise his control over wealth that legally belongs to others??????  Suspect

    Total BS invented by liars who cannot substantiate their absurd narratives so must advance this silly theory out of sheer desperation. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    As for your other links, you really are doubling down on the full retardation. Reality just ain't working for you, is it???? Suspect

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:48 am

    How does your imaginary Oligarch-Putin exercise his control over wealth that legally belongs to others??????
    simple: Putin lets them do their business, & if they don't share a portion their wealth, he can use laws to shut them down & relieve them of 100% of it, put them in prison, or expel them from Russia. It's a closed mafia-like family; many oligarchs have assets under their family members' names too. Those relatives may seize them but then is it worth to break up all relations?



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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:54 am

    I watched the clip with Navalny's phone conversation with Kudryavtsev, where he described in detail how the poison was applied to his underware. The gov. propaganda claimed that it was fake, w/o any other expert opinion/proof showing that it was so.

    I watched a movie about aliens invading and there has been no expert proof it was not true.

    Describing in detail how a poison is applied means nothing if there is no evidence of either the poison in the person or in the underpants.

    Without the chemical evidence from the EU labs how can Russia prove or disprove anything.... the burden of proof lies with the EU and they are withholding the evidence that would be used to investigate the situation... it is already proven the west is very much familiar with Novachok so the Ukraine or the UK or any number of other countries could have used such a poison to try to frame Putin who is painted in the west as the only user of such a weapon.

    For Putin to use such a poison would be pretty stupid for someone even you admit is rather clever...

    Putin is smart enough to keep his $ & assets under others' names- the evidence is circumstantial, & there is preponderance of it.

    But so dumb he keeps using his signature poison when planning assassinations... what a dichotomy...

    Bellingcat? It is an MI6 front that whores its bullshit for money. When the west wants to frame someone or something... usually Russia and Putin of course... they pay millions to Bellingcat, which is just retired MI6 agents earning some extra retirement money making shit up and selling itself as a private independent information source except it is just another western intell tool.

    From the same shitty site: ALEKSEY NAVALNY IS THE GRANDSON OF A NAZI AUXILIARY POLICEMAN

    But they don't mention that his father was a Soviet Army officer.
    Former Chairman of USJCS Gen. Shalikashvili had a Nazi collaborator father who later became a major in the Waffen SS . A. Schwarzenegger, who became California Governor , also had a Nazi father .
    Putin's Grandfather was the Cook of Stalin and Lenin , the 2 Bolvevik/CPSU bloody dictators.
    G. A. Nasser allegedly had a picture of Hitler above his desk.
    Welcome to the small world

    The main and critical factor is that Putin is a Hero and saviour of Russia and currently elected president of Russia, while Navalny is a criminal dirtbag currently in prison.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am

    GarryB wrote:
    I watched the clip with Navalny's phone conversation with Kudryavtsev, where he described in detail how the poison was applied to his underware. The gov. propaganda claimed that it was fake, w/o any other expert opinion/proof showing that it was so.
    I watched a movie about aliens invading and there has been no expert proof it was not true.-if it was, our history would be different from that point, to say the least.
    Describing in detail how a poison is applied means nothing if there is no evidence of either the poison in the person or in the underpants. Without the chemical evidence from the EU labs how can Russia prove or disprove anything.... the burden of proof lies with the EU and they are withholding the evidence that would be used to investigate the situation...-if presented with evidence, Russia can say that it was doctored to frame her FSB.
    it is already proven the west is very much familiar with Novachok so the Ukraine or the UK or any number of other countries could have used such a poison to try to frame Putin who is painted in the west as the only user of such a weapon.- u just confirmed the reply above. The US also classified its lab evidence from another poisoning (see my prev. posted clip) for political reasons, but I'm certain it will be revealed at the proper time.
    For Putin to use such a poison would be pretty stupid for someone even you admit is rather clever...-if successful (after all, it's the most potent poison invented), the body would be autopsied by controlled personnel, then cremated or embalmed & buried w/o any traces left & he'll have plausible deniability.
    Putin is smart enough to keep his $ & assets under others' names- the evidence is circumstantial, & there is preponderance of it.
    But so dumb he keeps using his signature poison when planning assassinations... what a dichotomy...-he can say he didn't know, or "it was stolen & used by rogue agents". He or his men also said that Nemtsov death wasn't in his interests. The kill team started to follow Navalny only after he declared his presidential aspirations.
    Bellingcat? It is an MI6 front that whores its bullshit for money. When the west wants to frame someone or something... usually Russia and Putin of course... they pay millions to Bellingcat, which is just retired MI6 agents earning some extra retirement money making shit up and selling itself as a private independent information source except it is just another western intell tool.- a very convenient propaganda point to make for Putin! Even if so, it's not a proof that everything they say is a lie & everything Putin or his propaganda says is true.
    From the same shitty site: ALEKSEY NAVALNY IS THE GRANDSON OF A NAZI AUXILIARY POLICEMAN
    But they don't mention that his father was a Soviet Army officer.
    Former Chairman of USJCS Gen. Shalikashvili had a Nazi collaborator father who later became a major in the Waffen SS. A. Schwarzenegger, who became California Governor, also had a Nazi father. Putin's Grandfather was the Cook of Stalin and Lenin, the 2 Bolshevik/CPSU bloody dictators. G. A. Nasser allegedly had a picture of Hitler above his desk. Welcome to the small world!
    The main and critical factor is that Putin is a Hero and saviour of Russia and currently elected president of Russia, ..-that's a myth & spin being perpetuated by Putin's party; any1 else with a support base under power pyramid would have done the same, if not better.
    ..while Navalny is a criminal dirtbag currently in prison.- or he could be a prosecuted brave patriot like many before him in the long Russian history.

    Why are only concrete walls left from "Putin's palace"?

    The third contractor confirmed the connection between the "Putin's palace" and Vladimir Putin


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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:20 pm

    par far wrote:Everyone one of these people need to be blacklisted and ousted in public.

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/enemies-of-the-motherland-must-be-known-by-name/

    Evgeniya Abelyuk, philologist
    Mikhail Aizenberg, poet
    Lev Akopyan, musicologist
    Ovanec Akopyan, historian
    Boris Akunin, writer
    Evgeny Aleksandrov, physicist, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Ekaterina Amerik, mathematician, Ph. D.
    Vladimir Ananich, publisher
    Aleksandr Anikin, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Novosibirsk
    Aleksandr Belavin, physicist, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Anatoly Bely, Honoured Artist of the Russian Federation
    Oleg Berezin, entrepreneur
    Olga Bogomolova, chemist
    Ekaterina Boikova, cartoonist
    Galina Bondareva, teacher
    Elizaveta Bonch-Osmolovskaya, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Nikolay Borisov, bioinformatician, Doctor of Technical Sciences
    Lyubov Borusyak, sociologist, Candidate of Economic Sciences
    Nina Braginskaya, philologist, antiquarian
    Boris Brovtsyn, musician, professor at the Vienna Conservatory
    Marina Buvailo, doctor, writer
    Aleksandr Bufetov, Professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Steklov Institute of Mathematics
    Elena Vanina, screenwriter, journalist
    Vera Vasilyeva, journalist, editor
    Dmitry Vedenyapin, poet
    Aleksandr Venger, psychologist, Doctor of Psychological Sciences
    Andrey Volna, doctor
    Roman Volobuyev, director
    Viktor Voronkov, sociologist
    Ivan Vyrypayev, director
    Irina Galkova, historian, Candidate of Historical Sciences
    Sergey Gandlevsky, poet
    Svetlana Gannushkina, Chairwoman of the “Civil Action Committee”
    Evgeny Gindilis, producer
    Georgy Gitelzon, biochemist, Candidate of Bio Sciences
    Mikhail Glazov, physicist, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Anatoly Golubovsky, historian
    Evgeny Gontmakher, Doctor of Economic Sciences
    Viktor Gorbatov, philosopher
    Varvara Gornostayeva, publisher
    Nikolay Grintser, philologist, member of Russian Academy of Sciences
    Lev Gudkov, Director of the “Levada Center”
    Sergey Guriyev, an economist
    Marina Davydova, Editor-in-chief of the “Teatr” magazine, Art Director of the NET festival
    Nataliya Demina, science journalist
    Andrey Desnitsky, Doctor of Philological Sciences, Professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Vitaly Dikson, writer
    Sergey Dmitrenko, Orientalist, Candidate of Philology
    Anton Dolin, film critic
    Oleg Dorman, film director, screenwriter
    Denis Dragunsky, writer
    Olga Drobot, translator
    Arkady Dubnov, journalist
    Irina Eryomina, retired
    George Efremov, poet, translator
    Elena Zhemkova, human rights activist
    Boris Zhuikov, Doctor of Chemical Sciences
    Aleksey Zakharov, Economist and political scientist, Candidate of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Vladimir Zakharov, physicist, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Andrey Zvyagintsev, director
    Aleksandr Zeldovich, director
    Dmitry Zimin, the founder of the company “VimpelCom” and the foundation “Dinastiya”
    Mikhail Zygar, journalist, writer
    Aleksey Ivanov, Geologist, Professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Nataliya Ivanova, writer
    Askold Ivanchik, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, President of the Russian Association of Antique Historians
    Ilya Indrupsky, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor
    Aleksandr Kabanov, UNC Eshelman School of Pharmacy, Ph. D.
    Andrey Kalinichev, Research Associate
    Roman Kantor, screenwriter
    Yuli Kim, poet, writer
    Aleksandr Kirillov, Jr, mathematician, Ph. D.
    Roman Kiselyov, human rights activist
    Igor Klyamkin, political scientist, President of the “Liberal Mission Foundation”
    Konstantin Knop, mathematician
    Karine Kovkhayeva, librarian
    Sergey Kozheurov, journalist
    Maria Kolpakova, art critic
    Natalya Konon, geneticist-breeder, factory owner
    Vladimir Kostushev, sociologist, candidate of sociological sciences
    Konstantin Kotov, civil activist
    Vladimir Kott, director
    Irina Kravtsova, editor
    Mikhail Krasnov, Doctor of Law
    Lika Kremer, journalist, producer
    Zhora Kryzhovhikov, director
    Yaroslav Kudryavtsev, physicist, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Ilya Kukulin, Cultural historian, Candidate of Philology
    Evgeny Kunin, biologist, Academician of the US National Academy of Sciences
    Sergey Kuok, journalist
    Igor Kurlyandsky, historian, Candidate of Historical Sciences
    Sergey Kuryshev, actor
    Aleksandr Kynev, a political analyst
    Irina Levontina, linguist, Candidate of Philology
    Oleg Lekmanov, philologist
    Yuliya Liderman, cultural critic, Candidate of Cultural Studies
    Nina Litvinova, biologist, Candidate of Bio Sciences
    Mikhail Lobanov, mathematician,” University Solidarity” trade union
    Sergey Lukashevsky, Director of the Sakharov Center
    Elena Lukyanova, lawyer, lecturer at the Free University
    Natalia Mavlevich, writer
    Mariya Maiofis, cultural historian, Candidate of Philology
    Vitaly Mansky, director
    Aleksey Maschan, pediatric hematologist/oncologist, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Mikhail Mestetsky, director
    Nadiya Meshchankina, teacher, artist
    Larisa Miller, writer
    Vladimir Mirzoev, director
    Sergey Mirkin, molecular biologist, Candidate of Bio Sciences
    Grigory Mikhnov-Voitenko
    Gleb Morev, historian, journalist
    Dmitry Muratov, journalist
    Olga Nazarenko, teacher
    Anna Narinskaya, critic, curator
    Irina Nasimova, physicist, Candidate of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Leonid Nikitinsky, journalist
    Sergey Nikitin and Tatiana Nikitina, author and performers of songs
    Boris Nikolsky, philologist, Doctor of Philological Sciences
    Maksim Osipov, writer, doctor
    Aleksey Oskolsky, biologist, Doctor of Bio Sciences
    Artemy Okhotin, doctor
    Emil Pain, Doctor of Political Science
    Aleksandr Pal, actor
    Sergey Parkhomenko, journalist, radio presenter
    Andrey Plakhov, film critic
    Leonard Polishchuk, ecologist, Doctor of Bio Sciences
    Aleksey Popogrebsky, director
    Leonid Positselsky, mathematician, Ph. D. (Harvard University)
    Faina Prendel, artist-restorer
    Irina Prokhorova, publisher
    Andrey Proshkin, director
    Marina Razbezhkina, film director
    Igor Razumov, Director of the “Liberal Mission” foundation
    Zhanna Reznikova, biologist, Doctor of Bio Sciences
    Nikolay Rekubratsky, researcher of the Institute of Freshwater Fisheries
    Kirill Rogov, political analyst
    Nikolay Rozanov, physicist, Corresponding Member of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Lev Rubinstein, writer
    Nigina Sayfullayeva, Director
    Andrey Sbarsky, Editor
    Zoya Svetova, a journalist
    Aleksey Semenov, Doctor of Biological Sciences
    Vasily Sigarev, director
    Sergey Skorbun, physicist
    Veniamin Smekhov, actor
    Yuliya Snigir, actress
    Nikita Sokolov, historian, Candidate of Historical Sciences
    Natalya Sotnikova, astronomer, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Irina Staf, translator
    Mariya Stepanova, writer
    Lyobov Summ, translator
    Evgeny Syroechkovsky, Doctor of Biological Sciences
    Oleg Sysuev, banker
    Mikhail Tamm, physicist, Candidate of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Yana Troyanova, actress
    Fyodor Uspensky, philologist, corresponding member of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Gayane Farmazyan, art critic
    Aleksey Fedorchenko, director
    Mikhail Feigelman, physicist, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Aleksandr Filippenko, actor
    Natalia Fichtenholz, teacher
    Aleksandra Freidzon, chemist, Candidate of Chemical Sciences
    Marina Friedman, a geneticist, Candidate of Bio Sciences
    Efim Khazanov, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Chulpan Khamatova, actress
    Boris Khlebnikov, director
    Aleksandr Khokhlov, populariser of cosmonautics, member of the North-Western Organisation of the Russian Cosmonautics Federation
    Andrey Tsaturyan, biophysicist, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Evgeny Tsyganov, actor
    Aleksandr Chaplik, physicist, Academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences
    Evgeny Shakhnovich, Ph. D., Candidate of Physical and Mathematical Sciences, biophysicist
    Liliya Shevtsova, political analyst
    Viktor Shenderovich, writer
    Sergey Shishkin, biologist, Candidate of Bio Sciences
    Zhanna Shlosberg-Kozlovich, doctor
    Lev Shlosberg, Deputy of the Pskov Regional Assembly
    Anna Smaina-Velikanova, theologian, Doctor of Culturology
    Elena Shmeleva, linguist, Doctor of Philological Sciences
    Sergey Shpilkin, analyst, technical translator
    Boris Shtern, Doctor of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Irina Shcherbakova, Historian, Candidate of Philological Sciences
    Ilya Shchurov, mathematician, Candidate of Physical and Mathematical Sciences
    Iskander Yasaveyev, sociologist, Doctor of Social Sciences

    These are the enemies of the state. And the list is rather very short with most philosophy assholes at the so called Academy of science (funny, most of Russia's scientific achievements are not from this school but in Siberia for example) and so called "artists".

    Not surprising. What is, how small the list is.

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    Post  LMFS Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:04 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:Errr.... sorry Einstein, but funds in someone elses account, or real estate in their name, actually makes it THEIR wealth.  Russia is a nation of laws (even if those laws differ somewhat from those in Western courtrooms) so pls explain how this is supposed to work?  How does your imaginary Oligarch-Putin exercise his control over wealth that legally belongs to others??????  Suspect

    lol1 lol1 lol1

    Reality just ain't working for you, is it???? Suspect

    Not working at all! Laughing

    Louise Mensch, Rachel Maddow and now also Tsavo Lion, there is a Putin living under their beds and whispering them nasty things in the ear clown clown clown

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    Post  kvs Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:17 pm

    There is clearly a part of the human population that are true xenophobes. Not in the sense usually applied to this term but in the
    "we must control everything to feel safe" definition. Any human that is not bending the knee and conforming to their wants and
    needs is an enemy that must be destroyed. You can see this in the USA and its social media lynch mobs. Even if someone merely
    does not parrot the PC line they must be cancelled (they can be left of center). For now it looks soft, but it is one step away from
    death camps.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:06 pm

    "Your lies are obvious to millions": key points of the new meeting in the case of the veteran against Navalny

    "The power is now fighting back": Pavlovsky on the trial in the Navalny case and the possible severance of relations with the EU

    Putin's Palace: 2011 video released, refuting the Kremlin's version of the "unfinished hotel"

    CIA, Rothenberg and the Brush. How propagandists disguise Putin

    "Dima Dacha" and one more aquadiskotheque. New details about Putin's palace

    The most painful point of the Kremlin. How Navalny can beat Putin

    Director of "Belorussky Station" Smirnov: Stalin is a beast, a scoundrel, a deceiver, a terrorist. Only because of their darkness and meanness can people carry his portraits


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    Post  lyle6 Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:22 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    These are the enemies of the state. And the list is rather very short with most philosophy assholes at the so called Academy of science (funny, most of Russia's scientific achievements are not from this school but in Siberia for example) and so called "artists".

    Not surprising. What is, how small the list is.

    Early life / nose checks for those?

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    Post  Scorpius Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:43 am


    Has Europe finally begun to recognize something?

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:36 am

    Scorpius wrote:Has Europe finally begun to recognize something?

    No.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:40 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:

    These are the enemies of the state. And the list is rather very short with most philosophy assholes at the so called Academy of science (funny, most of Russia's scientific achievements are not from this school but in Siberia for example) and so called "artists".

    Not surprising. What is, how small the list is.

    Early life / nose checks for those?

    I am assuming you mean if they are Jewish, right?

    To be honest, not all Jews are against Russia. It is a rather ignorant viewpoint that they are all against Russia. A huge portion of my family is Jewish. Apparently I am also partially Jewish (Although, I find it odd that a race is also associated with a religion when it isn't supposed to be such a way) but I am Eastern Orthodoxy Christian. Most of us in the family are pro Russian while the rest don't care cause they have their own problems.

    More like, figure out where their paychecks are coming from.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:21 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    How does your imaginary Oligarch-Putin exercise his control over wealth that legally belongs to others??????
    simple: Putin lets them do their business, & if they don't share a portion their wealth, he can use laws to shut them down & relieve them of 100% of it, put them in prison, or expel them from Russia. It's a closed mafia-like family; many oligarchs have assets under their family members' names too. Those relatives may seize them but then is it worth to break up all relations?


    Riiiight.... and I assume that you (or anyone for that matter) has some actual evidence for any of this happening? Anything?

    I'll wait...

    /crickets

    Nah, didn't think so. Without a little thing called EVIDENCE the supposed "Putin Stolen Billions" are just a figment of the Putin-haters fervoured imaginings Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

    Fuck, but you are a sad little individual, the perfect fodder to become an (expendeable) minion in Nalavnys band of IQ-challenged uneducated but useful fools.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:59 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:Riiiight.... and I assume that you (or anyone for that matter) has some actual evidence for any of this happening? -if u don't accept others' interviews & the open letter I posted, how about Rotenberg claiming that it's his palace, even though he was never a legal owner? He is a close friend of Putin, & he was told to say that; I could see that he wasn't sincere & didn't like the role assigned to him.

    Fuck, but you are a sad little individual, the perfect fodder to become an (expendeable) minion in Nalavnys band of IQ-challenged uneducated but useful fools.
    I speak for my myself & won't be a fodder to any1, besides, I didn't leave anything in Russia. As the old Chinese saying goes, good iron isn't used to make nails, & good men r not used to make soldiers; H. Kissinger also said: "the military r dumb pawns in sole1 else's hands". In the Russian context, that includes the OMON & RG. at some point, they will have to stop repressions or switch sides, otherwise the new regime will prosecute them, just like what happened to the OMON in Kiev.

    Federal channels were finally allowed to talk about Alexei Navalny, and they decided to win back over all these years: now the oppositionist is the main character of all talk shows and final programs. The main material was a report from Navalny's "villa", but it came out poorly: even a wide-angle lens did not help Russia-1. Propagandists discuss how the oppositionist drives children under the batons, that he is a Nazi and in general the main villain.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:08 am

    Scorpius wrote:....
    Has Europe finally begun to recognize something?

    Yeah, that they are being taken for a ride and that instead of dealing with problems that affect their constituents the EU is using Russia as distraction from the fact that they are just leeching off someone else's money



    Also, here is Valentine's Day gift for Tsavo in the form of actual news about Russian opposition from what actually resembles a news source (more or less) without hiding links:

    Infighting erupts in Russia's anti-Kremlin opposition over Alexei Navalny

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-politics-navalny-opposition-idUSKBN2AA2EK



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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:50 am

    From the article: The authorities have allowed Yabloko to run in the past, although it long since failed to win enough votes to gain seats in parliament. Meanwhile, applications by Navalny’s allies to register a party have repeatedly been rejected.
    The Yabloko (or "Apple"-what a name for a party!) party wasn't a threat to Putin's rule so it was allowed to run, but the party of Navalny was, & that's why it wasn't allowed to register. Yabloko will be split & eaten up pretty soon. Good riddance!

    Aleksashenko - why won't Russia disintegrate?

    Poisoned Kremlin politics


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    Post  lyle6 Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:05 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:

    I am assuming you mean if they are Jewish, right?

    To be honest, not all Jews are against Russia.  It is a rather ignorant viewpoint that they are all against Russia.  A huge portion of my family is Jewish.  Apparently I am also partially Jewish (Although, I find it odd that a race is also associated with a religion when it isn't supposed to be such a way) but I am Eastern Orthodoxy Christian.  Most of us in the family are pro Russian while the rest don't care cause they have their own problems.

    More like, figure out where their paychecks are coming from.

    Oh, I'm just taking a piss but at the same time its just interesting in a morbid sort of way how many of these people who profess to hate Putin who is about as pro-Jewish as can be but support Navalny who earlier in his career actually did try to comingle with literal neonazis.

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