Russian Liberal Opposition

https://antimaidan.ru/news/19281

This is fantastic... they are directly appealing to the west by talking about doing things the way the west demands... Crimea back to the Ukraine and the division of Russia into small consumable parcels that can be divided up like trophies... Germany gets a bit, France gets a bit, Japan gets bits and of course the US gets bits as well...

This is brilliant.

Do you not understand?

If I start a political party and get enormous funding support from Americas enemies to operate in the US and start talking about breaking up the United states into separate states and withdrawing from all foreign bases... military and otherwise, and giving China these parts and Russia those parts, and Cuba can have Florida and perhaps part of the coastal southern parts too and Mexico can have all the territory it lost and more so for compensation... how many votes do you think I would honestly get in a US election? How much genuine airtime would I get... as opposed to clown time on the news...

I would either get shot or my real political opponents in the Democrats and Republicans wont fear me... they wont feel threatened by me... my very policies and open foreign support make me unelectable and therefore I will get a lot of air time on Sputnik News and Russia Today, but I will only be entertainment value on the real news channels.

They can talk all the shit they want but it wont win them any votes at all, but they will still be taking money from Russias enemies which is fantastic because there are lots of ways they could much better use that money to actually hurt Russia.

This is just bullshit... Kasparov and Navalny are total jokes... they make Trump and Bush jnr and Johnson and May look classy and sophisticated and intelligent...

When your opponents are this bad it is important not to do something stupid like over react and put them in jail for being dumbasses.

Looking at Trump and Biden, and Kasparov and Navalny is this is the best of the best for the western future then the west is screwed.

Issue is, they aren't looking for votes. They acknowledge they aren't liked and won't win any votes in Russia.

What they are talking about is "shoving their way in" during violent protests to take over. Much like in Ukraine.

That is the major problem.

So hopefully Rosgvardii is keeping close tabs on these guys and their financial flow and ready to pounce when needed.

miketheterrible wrote:Issue is, they aren't looking for votes. They acknowledge they aren't liked and won't win any votes in Russia.

What they are talking about is "shoving their way in" during violent protests to take over.  Much like in Ukraine.

That is the major problem.

So hopefully Rosgvardii is keeping close tabs on these guys and their financial flow and ready to pounce when needed.

Honestly I'm with GarryB on this, it's so brazen that it's like a Monte Python parody sketch of foreign-funded compradors.  I'm more worried about the crypto-compradors that go by the moniker of 'monetarists' such as Elvira Nabulina.

Well, yes. I agree. The ones we don't see are way more of a threat.  But they usually have contacts with these people.

But we also assume that Russian authorities are competent.  They are not.  We seen how they have allowed all nations around them have color revolutions, we have seen how they just allow non stop protesting which costs cities lots of money in order to have security constantly on guard at these protests and also equipment, while disturbing the public. They constantly allow these banned groups in Russia break Russian laws and they don't do anything about it.  Which actually has brought up questions by a lot of locals of why they even have the laws on the first place.

When you got people who are obviously for the country, questioning the laws because lack of enforcement, then you know you have a major problem.

Of course not is all lost. Constitutional change was very recent and it takes time for new laws to pass.  So hopefully new laws regarding about this stuff are passed and enforced.

But eneptitude of Russian government recently showed itself with the open skies treaty. Instead of saying "we will leave if US leaves", they just demanded that EU doesn't share the details with US.

No fucking shit they will share the details with USA. Are Russians that dumb? No. But their leadership is.

kvs wrote:I will add to my post that arresting everyone trying to assemble is fully legitimate police action.   You need a legal permit
to demonstrate since you are using public property and not your living room.    I am sure that the clowns will try to gather
in various locations, but they will still have to do it outdoors.   The job of the police is to police the streets and not
some token points.   So if they can't catch these clowns clustering into groups, then they are not doing their jobs.

They need to understand that they are dealing with psyop military operations and not regular crimes or violations.
The rent-a-crowd mobs require military scale solutions such as mass arrests and interdiction over large areas.

That was the reason the Rosgvardii was created. But there is a problem - I dont think they have a proper standard of operation procedure. Mostly it is "Stand around and wait and just prevent it from going back".

In this case, things have to change.

I noticed on that topwar site, every comment section is filled with people who says their country is doomed cause Putin is a terrible leader and all the other politicians. I noticed most of them are very pro soviet. Hmm. I think I now know where the rent a crowed people will be - Flaming Pythons people. They are the useful idiots who will allow Liberals get into power because they will be used to protest and act out in retardation.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:Issue is, they aren't looking for votes. They acknowledge they aren't liked and won't win any votes in Russia.

What they are talking about is "shoving their way in" during violent protests to take over.  Much like in Ukraine.

That is the major problem.

So hopefully Rosgvardii is keeping close tabs on these guys and their financial flow and ready to pounce when needed.

Honestly I'm with GarryB on this, it's so brazen that it's like a Monte Python parody sketch of foreign-funded compradors.  I'm more worried about the crypto-compradors that go by the moniker of 'monetarists' such as Elvira Nabulina.

It beyond reason, why this Nabulina bitch still has a position in government.

If they have no political prospects except for attention in western media and causing problems in protests then they are little to no threat for the Russian people and the Russian state... they are another outlet for rich western idiots to waste their money and time and energy.

If they kick up problems with protests then give them enormous fines... their western sponsors will pay these fines to get them out... or they will leave them high and dry... if they pay the fines then that money can be used sensibly to improve Russia and the plight of Russian citizens that need support and help... if they don't pay the fines then the authorities can point out to these people how quickly they are abandoned when they are no longer seen as useful... which might make them think too.

I am sure a lot of people would be doing it just for the money and for no other reason.... and I suspect a few go to protests just to get into a good fight because that is the sort of people they are too.

Such people exist in every society on the planet... do you think such people can be made to disappear, and if it would make any real difference if they did?

Soros and Clinton and other nazi parties would just find other people to do their work... imagine if they managed to convince smarter people who would be more effective... now that would be a problem.

https://antimaidan.ru/news/19293

I think it's high time Russia steps up and say if they will give these nobodies a platform and make demands, that they will no longer communicate with Europe and that these fools lose their Russian citizenship.

Europe will squeal hard and loud

Russia's foreign and domestic policy is fucking shit. They let these filth run around and try to play government of Russia and EU is supporting them. Since that's direct interference, Russia's real government should stop all trade and agreements until these retards are sent back to Russia to face arrest.

But of course they won't. Russian government will wait till they are violently overthrown by these fools with imported protestors.

miketheterrible wrote:https://antimaidan.ru/news/19293

I think it's high time Russia steps up and say if they will give these nobodies a platform and make demands, that they will no longer communicate with Europe and that these fools lose their Russian citizenship.

Europe will squeal hard and loud

Russia's foreign and domestic policy is fucking shit. They let these filth run around and try to play government of Russia and EU is supporting them.  Since that's direct interference, Russia's real government should stop all trade and agreements until these retards are sent back to Russia to face arrest.

But of course they won't.  Russian government will wait till they are violently overthrown by these fools with imported protestors.

the difference in comparison to the past is that their actions and stupidity are broadcasted and are public. So the population will see them for what they are. Yes maybe a large chunk of the people in the west will think that those idiots are the real Russia, but at home they won't get much support.
Eventually proper measures will be taken against them, but when the times are ripe. No need to turn them into martyrs or heroes.

And the best would be to incriminate them first for something that has nothing to do with their political actions, like drug trafficking, illegal appropriations, corruption and or tax evasion.

Problem with that is protest groups consist of lots of different groups (commie wannabe losers and so called nationalists) who openly protest with these libtards and they don't throw them out of their protests or sit and listen to Navalny the retard.

And because of that, these libtards will squeeze their way into power like they did in Ukraine through protests.

Russia cannot let that happen

The thing is that these losers have 1% appeal and not even the rich 1% that might give them power and effectiveness beyond what they actually have.

In the Ukraine it was the west who paid for snipers to go in and shoot people on both sides to stir up shit and get the people mobilised and into the street...

If they try that in Russia these idiots will be crushed like the bugs they are and the support chains will be ripped out at the source... hopefully burning bridges and destroying some of the infrastructure the west uses to create these situations in other countries.

The reality is that there will always be Guanos and Navalnys and Poroshenkos and Sakashvilis.... it is a credit to Putin and Russia that Navalny even looks weak amongst this group of losers and you would think being on the destroy Russia team he would be their best player.

The best way to defeat a real hard line liberal is to let them talk and everyone who is reasonable will realise what a loony they are.

kvs wrote:

Posner has slandered all Russians as resentful, illiterate and inadequate.   The routine liberast retardation where some
two bit media interview personality thinks he is smarter than scientists, mathematicians and engineers.   You are nothing
but a celebrity husk, you bonehead.   You also demonstrate your low IQ by lashing like a baby at not getting what
you want.

Go live in NATzO, slimeball.   Most Russians clearly are more intelligent than you as they can see the NATzO facade
for what it is.  

I have seen videos of this idiot where he drinks NATO's kool aid, I would say that he has been good for Russia because he has been giving the wrong information to the west(he gives the casual crap that west likes to hear).

Yeap. And majority other people who vote against Putin are those voting for a leader who is more rabid against the west.

CNN uncovers Novichok storage reserved for the killing of Navalny:

kvs wrote:

Some liberast anti-Putin crusader "writer" living as an exp-pat in Italy, Svetlana Ulitskaya, has admitted:

1) the standard of living in Russia today is likely the highest ever in its history

2) this accounts for the lack of desire of Russians to get rid of Putin

I guess repeating the inanity that Russians are bydlo has not achieved anything over the last 30 years.
So it is time to admit some truth.   But a concept posted about by magnumcormagnon in another thread
applies to this admission.   It is basically just "limited hangout".  Admitting some truth but keeping on with
the original agenda.

Judging by her face and last name I would assume she is not quite ethnically Russian.

So, during Navalny's stay in the West:
- Merkel announced her departure.
- Trump is effectively deposed.

Should we send Navalny to London and let him live there?

Sobol and the like has been arrested for 48hrs due to breaking the law demanding children to partake in illegal demonstrations.

lol.