5th gen Husky-class nuclear submarine

George1 wrote:Dmitry Kornev seems to thinks that the #Russia|n Navy's latest SSGN Haski (Husky) 's got the hump )

George1 wrote:Dmitry Kornev seems to thinks that the #Russia|n Navy's latest SSGN Haski (Husky) 's got the hump )



https://militaryrussia.livejournal.com/416932.html

https://twitter.com/Russian_Defence/status/991433729431212033

GarryB wrote:

To be honest, new weapons with scramjet propulsion look to have rather more growth potential... but we will see.

What it does suggest is that the UKSK.... or universal launcher... is becoming more universal...

Remember not every ship needs 2,500km range cruise missiles, and for some short range tactical missiles with 400kg+ warheads moving at very high speeds can be just the ticket...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

GarryB wrote:

To be honest, new weapons with scramjet propulsion look to have rather more growth potential... but we will see.

What it does suggest is that the UKSK.... or universal launcher... is becoming more universal...

Remember not every ship needs 2,500km range cruise missiles, and for some short range tactical missiles with 400kg+ warheads moving at very high speeds can be just the ticket...

They said Iskander. My interpretation was Iskander rocket nor cruise missile (otherwise why to specify calibers and iskanders apart? ) . Me wonders why ballistic rocket on ship? kind of stealth sub Dongfeng-21 ?


The thing thet worries me is diameter 0,95 /iskander  vs. 0,7 Onix

They said Iskander. My interpretation was Iskander rocket nor cruise missile (otherwise why to specify calibers and iskanders apart? ) . Me wonders why ballistic rocket on ship? kind of stealth sub Dongfeng-21 ?

The thing thet worries me is diameter 0,95 /iskander vs. 0,7 Onix

They will not put it on a large nuclear sub for sure. It would have to come to close to the shore to be effective. Why put an expensive sub in danger? But a modified Kilo with 4 or 8 Iskanders would be a very effective weapon in the Baltic or Black Sea.

GarryB wrote:

A couple of things... first of all a naval Iskander is not limited in range or payload by the INF treaty, so while the Iskander that we know is limited to 500km range, any naval or air launched model is not.

Second... the new Kinzhal has a body shape very similar to Iskander... perhaps they have made air and ship/sub launched models with greatly boosted range and speed performance... so that if or when the INF treaty is folded... Mk41 launch tubes in eastern europe already violate that agreement anyway so if the US refuses to stop violating the INF agreement and remove its land based AEGIS system then Russia could deploy a land based solid fuelled rocket with much better performance than Iskander... say Iskander II... all the development could be done via a naval version so when the agreement no longer applies they can deploy new missiles immediately?

On a ship, the semi ballistic Iskander without range restrictions could be useful... it manouvers to evade interception, has very high speed and excellent terminal accuracy.

The concept of the submarine has already been accepted and its construction is set to start in 2018, with the last unit of the first batch slated for completion by 2025...........

Eduardo wrote:Very bad article!

PapaDragon wrote:

Eduardo wrote:Very bad article!

I know, hence disclaimer

- When can we expect the appearance of the fifth generation nuclear submarines?

- We have already completed the conceptual design of the prospective fifth generation "Husky" submarine, as well as the definition of its appearance. Several variants have been proposed, now they have to choose the optimal one. Now the tactical and technical characteristics of the new boat are being developed. The rest about the "Husky" - while the military secret.

The USA is now actively developing autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles. What domestic shipbuilders can offer the Navy?

- We are also developing autonomous combat complexes - today this is one of the key trends in the development of the armed forces of any country in the world. SPBMM Malakhit and CDB MT Rubin are working on the design of systems provided with their own autonomous power plant, with an integrated system of orientation and, of course, management.

I can not talk about this in detail, for obvious reasons, but I assure you: we have something to offer. And, by the way, civil projects in this field are developing at least as actively.

For example, we agreed with the Foundation for Advanced Studies to develop robots for solving research problems: it is mapping the bottom, inspecting bottom objects, studying the soil and water column and so on. The development of autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles is underway, which will be engaged in the exploration of the continental shelf in the Arctic Ocean - to search for oil and gas deposits, draw up bottom maps necessary for the construction of engineering structures for the extraction and transportation of hydrocarbons. These devices can contactlessly exchange information and undergo recharging.

Source: the first submarine of the fifth generation "Husky" will be built by 2027

MOSCOW, May 31. / TASS /. The construction of the fifth generation nuclear submarine "Husky" armed with hypersonic missiles "Zircon" is planned to be completed by 2027. This was reported by a source in the Russian military-industrial complex.


"Husky" is included in the state arms program for 2018-2027. Experimental design work on the construction of submarines of this class is planned to begin in 2023, and to hand over the main ship - until the end of 2027, "the source said.

He also added that "the main armament of the new multipurpose submarine will be hypersonic anti-ship missiles" Zircon. "
At the same time, according to the source, the results of research work already carried out on the design of this submarine are "considered unsatisfactory," since they "do not meet the customer's requirements."
Representatives of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) did not comment on this information by TASS.

"Husky" and "Zircon"

In early 2014, the design bureau "Malachite" announced the design of a multi-purpose nuclear submarine of the fifth generation. In 2016 the code of the project "Husky" became known. Initially, the research work was carried out by the design bureau in an initiative order, in 2016 a contract was signed with the RF Ministry of Defense. At the end of April 2018, the head of USC Alexei Rakhmanov reported that the Husky project would be finalized in accordance with the remarks of the Russian Navy. Construction, as expected, will deal with the "Northern Machine Building Enterprise".

The tactical and technical characteristics of the future submarine are classified. According to open sources, "Husky", traditionally for the domestic fleet, will be a two-hull, its displacement will not exceed 12 thousand tons. The submarine will be equipped with the latest combat information management system, a hydroacoustic complex and an integration system into the unified information space of the Russian Armed Forces.

A universal missile system with a hypersonic missile "Zircon" was developed by the "NGO Mashinostroeniya" and is currently being tested. It is expected to be placed on air and sea carriers.

Now a series of multipurpose submarines of the project 885 "Ash" is being built in Russia (the fourth generation - TASS comment). Of the seven such submarines, the construction of which was planned by the state armament program for 2011-2020, so far only one has been commissioned - K-560 Severodvinsk.

dino00 wrote:
I am Eduardo, was a mistake to post with That account

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Source: the first submarine of the fifth generation "Husky" will be built by 2027

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At the same time, according to the source, the results of research work already carried out on the design of this submarine are "considered unsatisfactory," since they "do not meet the customer's requirements.".....

miketheterrible wrote:Exactly

I prefer to just build more of a proven/ready design and then move to a new platform when all the upgrade options have been exhausted.  Husky I think should go on shelf till they come up with a design that truly makes it more impressive than Yasens.

Or come up with a nuclear submarine that would make a good SSBN or SSGN (multipurpose in design).

Isos wrote:......
They should propose to india some Yasen and then replace them with export Husky. It would be stupid to let indian market for nuclear subs to local or european/US industries. They already want it. Maybe build two for them and give them the first one that is the old version. That would be 3+2 akula SSN for indian navy and in ten or fifteen years sell them 5 husky. Billion dollars contract.

PapaDragon wrote:
If India wants Yasens that's their problem because Russia needs those Yasens and letting Indians anywhere near them would be act of cosmic stupidity.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
If India wants Yasens that's their problem because Russia needs those Yasens and letting Indians anywhere near them would be act of cosmic stupidity.

If there are possibilities to build export what is the problem? Russian wont build them anymore anyway.