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    Syrian War: News #17

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    Post  Isos Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:06 pm

    lycantrop wrote:nothing unexpected, but i will share it nevertheless

    US not to pull out troops from Syria until goals accomplished - UN envoy Haley

    https://www.rt.com/usa/424204-us-troops-syria-pull-haley/


    Next goal is Idlib...im expecting next "chemical attacks" from "the monster","the dictator" Assad

    I suspect putin and erdogan working togatjer against kurdes to remove US and french forces from the north.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:09 pm

    Isos wrote:


    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 Mi10

    Yeah but that missile seems to have the red cover on it.. Shocked

    Well it would meant they hit an airbase which didn't happen according to them and to russian who said they intercepted all the missiles.

    If they really targeted the airbase like russian said but really thought the missiles were intercepted and lied by saying no airbase was targeted just to don't admit loses. Then ot is a proof they lied and that syrian really destroyed their missiles.

    And I don't think it is a protection the red thing but a part of the missiles for aerodynamics.

    It's a bolt-on cover used when on the ground. I believe that's the exhaust side of the missile.
    This is removed before flight. This image shows something was destroyed while on the ground.

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 AA%206%20and%20AS%2010

    Where did that photo come from? Maybe it's from earlier in the conflict? A trashed SyAAF airbase perhaps?


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    Post  starman Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:11 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    Keep up mate. Check out posts 129/148 above Smile

    OK I see. Good thing it wasn't another enemy attack.
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    Post  Isos Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:26 pm

    Where did that photo come from? Maybe it's from earlier in the conflict? A trashed SyAAF airbase perhaps?

    Another forum. No source. Probably from earlier they would have talk about this if it was from yesterday.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:29 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Where did that photo come from? Maybe it's from earlier in the conflict? A trashed SyAAF airbase perhaps?

    Another forum. No source. Probably from earlier they would have talk about this if it was from yesterday.

    Agreed.
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    Post  lulldapull Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:42 pm

    UN on board now with the actual facts:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/05/un-sources-say-rebel-forces-not-assad-used-sarin-gas/315588/

    About fukking time.
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    Post  lycantrop Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:13 pm

    lulldapull wrote:UN on board now with the actual facts:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/05/un-sources-say-rebel-forces-not-assad-used-sarin-gas/315588/

    About fukking time.

    Doesnt change anything
    The coalition of evil does not give a single f..., the war criminals will continue
    They are illegal occupiers, and lies justify they presence there.
    Again, the truth will not change anything, they want to stay in Syria as long as possible.
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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:27 pm

    As I posted in economic thread:

    Lol, US is mad at their own failures in Syria so they are planning to add more sanctions to Russia for their support of Assad.

    Russia still has yet to respond for last round of sanctions.

    US is more pathetic than ever. Russia is too since they seem to still regard them as "partners" and that they still haven't responded to last bout of sanctions.

    Eventually the Russians need to man up and grab their balls, and tell the US we're they can go.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:34 pm

    Hm A small operation was launched against the homs pocket, It's aiming to clear a certain part of it not the entire thing.

    This would mean Homs pocket should be the next Target of Assad, which is sensible and what I said he would do.

    This small operation means they are getting pieces in line for when they are ready to start.

    Aswad should fall within 2 weeks at most that will be a joke of a fight for Assad in terms of how easy it will be.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:42 pm

    from the official CBS news yt channel: "How did Russia response to the airstrikes in Syria?" lol1 lol1 lol1

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    Post  nomadski Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:45 pm

    Should SAA allow build up of yank troops and bases , and just busy itself with rebels ? What about usraeli forces that are attacking ? Who will take care of them ? Where did the last yank plane that killed over hundred Russians take of from ? How many yank planes in Turkey or Saudi or on carriers that can join in ? What equipment from yank bases can flow in from border of Turkey or Iraq ? Will Turkey join in to occupy the east with yank ? How many troops can Hezb forces put up against usraeli advance ? How many troops can Iran put in Syria against yank and possibly Turkey ? How many air defence units can Russia put in ? Will these be enough to nullify air attack by yank ? Will Russian pilots fly against yank pilots in direct engagements ? What is actual force of SDF ? Do they have anti - armour ? ........Once these questions are answered , then the yanks and Co need to be attacked ASAP. Because they are not going away . And they are building more bases .

    The SAA has the rebels surrounded . They can not be supplied by ground or air or sea . Their force is known . And so it should be easy to predict how many troops needed to keep them caged or defeat them . It may not be necessary to defeat them , if we need them for the offensive in the east . If SDF has 30,000 troops , then SAA needs 100,000 ground forces .

    The Usraeli forces were defeated on the ground by Hezb forces . This time they will be at least as well armed and experienced . And we can safely say that they will not allow them to pass . The Usraeli airforce can be destructive . So the Hezb forces need some updated air defence from Iran . For use in this particular operation . They need defence also . They have plenty of rockets .

    The Syrian need ballistic missiles to hit all bases in region with yank planes . All aircraft carriers . And yank bases surrounding them that can launch air attacks . This missile force can be transported to Syria .

    Ground troops and reinforcements into Syria can be stopped by Turks and Iraq . However if they are unable or unwilling then IRGC forces can land airborne paratroopers to block roads .


    you get the picture . ....All these questions need answers ..... mistakes will mean partition of Turkey and Syria and Iraq and Iran .






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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:50 pm

    Former head of Britain's special forces says Assad 'doesn't need to use gas' because he's 'already won the war' but give May 'benefit of the doubt' over intelligence


    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 4B295C9600000578-5616533-image-a-2_1523738627541

    A former head of Britain's Special Forces has challenged Theresa May's claim that President Assad was behind the chemical attack in Douma. Major General Jonathan Shaw said: 'Why would Assad use chemical weapons at this time? He's won the war.

    'That's not just my opinion, it is shared by senior commanders in the US military. There is no rationale behind Assad's involvement whatsoever. 'He's convinced the rebels to leave occupied areas in buses. He's gained their territory. So why would he be bothering gassing them?

    Speaking exclusively to The Mail on Sunday, the ex-SAS and Parachute Regiment commander added: 'The jihadists and the various opposition groups who've been fighting against Assad have much greater motivation to launch a chemical weapons attack and make it look like Assad was responsible.

    'Their motivation being that they want to keep the Americans involved in the war – following Trump saying the US was going to leave Syria for other people to sort out.'

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616533/Former-head-Britains-special-forces-says-Assad-doesnt-need-use-gas.html#ixzz5CkycxjQG
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    Post  Isos Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:57 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:from the official CBS news yt channel: "How did Russia response to the airstrikes in Syria?" lol1 lol1 lol1


    What is this bullshit !! First time I watch a interview about syria on English/US channel, I was expecting shit but this is worse !! confused

    The therories are worse than the earth is flat thing lol1
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:57 pm

    As I predicted, a few pages back..
    I bet these journalists would have perceived Russian fried chicken kiev rations as a major threat too.

    RUSSIAN SUPPLY OF S-300 SYSTEMS TO SYRIA MAJOR THREAT TO IAF


    With Russia considering supplying the S-300 surface-to- air missile systems to Syria, Israel’s air superiority is at risk of being challenged in one of its most difficult arenas. With a de-confliction mechanism in place with Russia over Syria in order to avoid any unwanted conflict with the superpower, Israel has largely had free reign over Syrian skies to carry out strikes on targets deemed a threat to the Jewish state.

    Over the course of Syria’s seven-year-long civil war, Israel has publicly admitted to having struck over 100 Hezbollah convoys and other targets in Syria, while keeping mum on hundreds of other strikes that have been attributed to the Jewish state.

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that strikes will continue when “we have information and operational feasibility.”

    Syrian air defenses are largely Soviet-era systems, comprised of SA-2s, SA-5s and SA-6s, as well as more sophisticated tactical surface-to-air missiles such as the SA-17 and SA-22 systems. The most up-to-date system that Moscow has supplied to the Syrian regime is the short range Pantsir S-1, which has shot down drones and missiles that have flown over Syria.

    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Russian-supply-of-S-300-systems-to-Syria-major-threat-to-IAF-549837

    Isos wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:from the official CBS news yt channel: "How did Russia response to the airstrikes in Syria?" lol1 lol1 lol1


    What is this bullshit !! First time I watch a interview about syria on English/US channel, I was expecting shit but this is worse !! confused

    The therories are worse than the earth is flat thing lol1

    English language skills not so strong pirat
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    Post  Aristide Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:02 pm

    France wants to start a new initiative regarding Syria that can bring all parties on the table and find a solution all sides can live with.

    Russias interest is Tartus. I´m sure an agreement can be found where this is part of a deal.

    Assad is burned. Evryone knows no European nation ever will deal with Assad. Putin knows this as well. And Syria needs western deals to be build up.

    The Baath party is not burned though. The best option would be a replacement of Assad with another leading Baath member. Similar to General Haftar in Libya.

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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:10 pm

    Eyes on the prize by SAA & co. The so-called Syrian opposition rule on less than 6% of the Syrian population.
    I can imagine that less than half of that population actually supports regime chage.

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 Da0-6Q7WAAE90Z_

    Yarmouk is next (finally).

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    #BREAKING - First photos of #Syrian convoy heading to Yarmouk camp, which saw #ISIS expand its territory while #US, #UK and #French cruise missile strikes were hitting Syrian positions around #Damascus. ISIS currently launching mortars towards Damascus.


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:12 pm

    Pure idiocy.

    Russia cannot afford to make a deal with France.

    Frankly, we will never allow France to do so.

    Your entire comment is beyond out of touch with reality, if that was possible it would have been done YEARS ago.

    Simply put some groups want a religious Syrian rule, some want to make Christians extinct in syria, some want syria's land, some want syrias oil. There will never be a diplomatic end in syria, many of the parties at war will NEVER allow the other to get control.

    The only way the syrian war is ending is through military option whoever wins, wins it's that simply.

    What an idiot...
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:19 pm

    Looks like SAA is getting back to work in the western Salamiyah countryside.

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 Salmyah-750x430

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    @SSNP_FieldMedia
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    #SyrianArmy regains with the support of #SSNP forces and Allied forces, control of the villages and towns of : #Qunaytrat #Salim #EzzAddin, in addition to several blocks of muddans and fortifications west of the town of #Tal_dara, southwest of the town of #Salamiyah.
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    Post  Isos Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:21 pm

    Warning !!!! Funny --->


    http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights managed to monitored interception by the regime forces to tens of missiles which targeted their positions and military bases in the Syrian territory, where several intersected sources confirmed to the Syrian Observatory, that the number missiles that were downed, exceeded 65 missiles, of the total number of missiles fired by the Trio Coalition, while the air and rocket strikes, caused great material damage, while no information about casualties was reported yet.


    This time western media don't quote them lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:22 pm

    Isos wrote:Warning !!!! Funny --->


    http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights managed to monitored interception by the regime forces to tens of missiles which targeted their positions and military bases in the Syrian territory, where several intersected sources confirmed to the Syrian Observatory, that the number missiles that were downed, exceeded 65 missiles, of the total number of missiles fired by the Trio Coalition, while the air and rocket strikes, caused great material damage, while no information about casualties was reported yet.


    This time western media don't quote them lol1 lol1 lol1 lol1

    They obviously have an agenda. "Look they interceped most missiles, you need launch more!"
    But I agree, nobody cites them now. Too embarassing. lol1
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:58 pm

    lulldapull wrote:guys something that bugs me about this whole situation in Syria is a very peculiar issue.

    Trump and his thugs launch 103 tomahawks on Syrian targets. both Iran and Russia combined have tens of thousands of SRMB/ MRBM/ Cruise missiles.........yet none are launched against hundreds of potential targets including marshaling yards, warehouses, weapons depots, training centers, known dual use military/ para military sites, and ofcourse covert CIA/ MIT/ Mossad facilities, within Syria!

    How strange!......Is this to say we are scared of the consequences, of perhaps escalation?......I am just baffled! The gloves should really come off now, as the other side doesn't give a fukk! They happy to gas their own proxies.......fukkin hell, we still want to play nice I guess.

    When you go to war.. you need goals.. objectives .
    When Russia enters in Syria in 2015 , The syrian army was on the brink of collapse with 70% of its territory
    already in control of US ,Saudi Arabia ,France and UK backed ISIS ,Alqaeda and other head choppers..
    and to make things more complicate Almost all Syria neighbors Turkey,Jordan,Israel were being used as a
    safe zone for terrorist to resupply weapons and get food and medical attention.  

    So Russia will have never be able to achieve its objectives if it started a fight with US,UK ,France and Israel and Turkey and Jordan.. and now with Kurds..too..  Any good General in a war will never fight battles it knows it can't win or at least win in an acceptable way. So Russia did the only thing it could do , to help.. do a limited military air and ground support ,that is calculated risk.. and do everything with United Nations backup.. For NATO the real goal was not Syria
    but Russia.. this is the real reason they can't leave.. because the Syrian war is a war against Russia. to bleed their economy but also spy on their technology and equipment and tactics. Reason why Russia prefer to avoid using S-400s unless they are really need. To not reveal much information unless is really need to use. Syrian war is also a pipeline war too ,to offer Europe a way out of Russia energy business. So Syria is an economic war against Russia.. but also to spy on Russia technology and tactics.

    If Russia started a war with Turkey.. as soon their plane was shotdown... then Russia will had to divert its focus from fighting ISIS, to fighting the second more stronger army in NATO after US. and then it will have been very expensive war for Russia and will have allowed ISIS to gain terrain.. if US,UK,France,Israel start attacking Syria too. Puting at risk the entire operation.. and will have achieved nothing on an strategic level (like US vs Vietnam war was , won all the battles but in the end had to leave and lost the war) with fighting Turkey.. So if Russia base their policies based on emotions ,bragging rights , or EGO ,then will have not been able to save Syria at all..  So Russia had to play a long term game..which Americans accepted , which allowed Russia to achieve its goals..

    Now US,France and Britain and Israel ,see their backed terrorist lost the war in Syria.. have no more terrorist to lead an effective offensive to overthrow Assad by force... then now they switch from a Proxy war ,to a direct one.. and directly Attacking.

    So Russia policy is about RESULTS... not about OMG IM STRONG.. but about.. RESULTS is what matters in the end..
    and as a bonus Russia have been winning in Public Opinion too.. Majority of Americans wants their Gov out of syria ,same with Britain ,same with Europe..So much that majority of NATO did not joined the strikes against Syria. So Russia also managed to Isolate United States ,UK and France in the world.  Mike Pence went to latin American recently with Ivanka Trump to try to get support for their illegal war in Syria and they got NO SUPPORT. So this worry them a lot because it will damage its long term objectives of Leading the world.. Since US-UK and France are seen as a criminal organization by the majority of the countries in the world...  Britain tried to isolate Russia about the fake chemical incident in UK and got no support outside Europe.. and even 10 nations in Europe did not joined Britain accusations against Russia.

    All things said.. what matters is Results..that you achieve your goals ,and how you achieve them..and Russia have been able to Save Syria from being over Run by ISIS and other jihadist terror groups that US,UK And France support ,even after the overwhelming advantage US and allies had . Syria encircled from all sides and more impressive is done with a very limited airforce support.   Russia did retaliate American and France and UK many times... but they do it in secret..by bombing their secret bases as you say and secret agents... all this rebel terrorist controlled zones are lead by US,UK,and France special forces.. and intelligence officers.. and they have lost any of them , in battles. Russia Sputnik is saying British Intelligence officers captured in Damascus... So as you see , Russia retaliate.. fight back..
    but Russia do the fighting in ways ,the west will not be able to claim Russian Aggression.   In Eastern  Aleppo France lost many special forces to Russia airforce bombing it.. and this was the reason Hollande was very angry and threatened Putin to a criminal court.

    So fast forward to present.. The war in syria is far from over.. since NATO is now directly fighting now.. because they are now the ones feeling humiliated ,and now resorting to continue the war directly with their own forces and not with
    ISIS and other terrorist as they did before.. in light of the defeat of their terrorist. and now trying to push Russia to
    accept a deal of partition of Syria in a way that will turn Syria into a another Lybia failed state.... and NATO will need no less than a direct military invasion in order to reverse permanently Russia gains in Syria.

     But Russia until now is winning territory in Syria.. and NATO backed terrorist losing. and doing all this with very limited force and minimal loses..and public opinion support world wide , while NATO is exposing themselves as a criminal organization that does not obey  UN and international laws.

    So until now,Syria is winning ,US-UK -France and Saudi Arabia ,have been clearly losing their money investment on their backed and defeated terrorist , even after their failed bombing and being humiliated in the long term for Russia kicking NATO away from Syria little by little and Russia is holding and with a very little force deployment and this is what matters in the end.   Cool Wink

    Even FOX news , is now their journalist openly speaking in their reports asking for US military leaving Syria..
    And this means American Elite who own US media is already tired of this war .. this can't be underestimated.
    So Russia biggest achievement in Syrian war ,have been damaging US-and NATO image in the world as a terror
    organization.and this will have big damage in the long term.. US will have big problem of leadership in the future ,
    because there will be a major distrust and fear on them.. if they can aid ISIS in Syria ,they can do it anywhere else.
    including Europe.. This is why there is major rebellion ,major resistance in Europe to accept muslim migrants from combat zones,that later can be armed by US-UK or France to overthrow their governments..


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    Post  adder Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:19 pm

    lulldapull wrote:UN on board now with the actual facts:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/05/un-sources-say-rebel-forces-not-assad-used-sarin-gas/315588/

    About fukking time.

    Well thats a 2013 article.
    I believe the OPCW have yet to give any info, if at all.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:24 pm

    Get ready for the money shot folks Twisted Evil

    Peto Lucem
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    NEW MAP: Military situation in southern #Damascus.  Syrian Government Forces and allied Palestinian militias are gathering their forces in staging areas. A large scale offensive against #ISIS  in #Yarmouk Camp and Al- #Qadam districts is expected to commence soon. #Syria

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 Da1viILW0AIlwOG

    How on earth would killing MORE people rescue Syria?

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 6a00d8341c565553ef01b7c960d973970b-320wi

    Why do so many people in politics and the media want to start wars? Since I toured a sordid hospital full of wounded people in Bucharest at Christmas 1989, and even more after I saw for the first time (in Vilnius in 1991) what a human head looks like after a bullet has passed through it, I have seen it as an absolute duty to warn against armed conflict. It is a filthy thing.

    No doubt there are times when we must fight. But there are plenty more when we should not.

    Any fool can kill a man in a second and ruin a city in a week. But it takes long years of nurture to raise a child to adulthood, and centuries to build a civilisation.

    Yet I look around me and see the mouths of intelligent people opened wide, yelling for an attack on Syria, when the only certain outcome of that will be blood and screams and ruins, and the deaths of innocents in 'collateral damage'. What good will this do?

    What is wrong with them? They are not cruel and stupid, yet they call for actions which are both.

    Haven't we got enough misery in Syria already? The place is a mass of ruins, graveyards and refugee camps. To what end? The only mercy for Syria will come when the war ends, yet we seek to widen and extend it.

    Don't we have more than enough of such disaster in Iraq and Libya, where state-sponsored panic and emotional claims of atrocities excused the launching of wars so stupid and dangerous that I wonder if these places can ever recover?

    Perhaps worse, by creating an unending river of migrants through the Middle East and the Mediterranean, I suspect they have ruined Europe for good.

    Why are we even taking sides in Syria? As Julian Lewis MP, chairman of the Defence Select Committee, rightly pointed out last week, President Assad is a monster. But his opponents are maniacs.

    The Syrian jihadi gangsters which our Government crazily helps and backs – the Al-Nusra Front and Jaish al-Islam – are the sort of fanatics we would arrest on sight if we found them in Birmingham.

    Anyway, Boris Johnson's Foreign Office is firmly pro-monster in all parts of the world where it suits it to be so.

    British Royals and Ministers literally bow down as they accept medals from the head-chopping fanatics of Saudi Arabia, now engaged in a bloody, aggressive war in Yemen.

    Britain maintains a naval base in Bahrain, whose rulers in 2011 crushed protests with severe violence followed by torture.

    As Amnesty International puts it, 'using an array of tools of repression, including harassment, arbitrary detention and torture, the government of Bahrain has managed to crush a formerly thriving civil society and reduced it to a few lone voices who still dare to speak out'.

    Britain daren't even admit that our 'friend' Egypt is ruled by a military junta that seized power illegally in defiance of elections which we had supposedly supported but which produced the wrong result.

    Field Marshal Sisi's August 2013 Cairo massacre, in which almost 600 peaceful protesters were killed and thousands more wounded, is politely forgotten.

    So is the Chinese communist regime's mass murder (1,000 are estimated to have died) in Peking in June 1989.

    The men whose power rests on that ruthless massacre are welcome to dine at Buckingham Palace. But surely we can't allow Assad to use chemical weapons?

    We would never tolerate that. Would we? Well, when Saddam Hussein was our ally against Iran back in 1988, he undoubtedly used poison gas against Kurds in Halabja.

    And in September 1988 the Foreign Office declined to get outraged, saying: 'We believe it better to maintain a dialogue with others if we want to influence their actions.

    Punitive measures such as unilateral sanctions would not be effective in changing Iraq's behaviour over chemical weapons, and would damage British interests to no avail.'

    Which brings me to the final point. Do we even know that Assad used chemical weapons? I have actually read the reports of the last such alleged attack in Khan Sheikhoun a year ago, and they prove nothing. In fact, they are quite fishy. At the time of writing, I have yet to see a British or US media report on this alleged attack from closer than Beirut, 70 miles from the scene.

    Many seemingly confident and graphic accounts come from Istanbul, 900 miles away, or from London or Washington. Where are they getting their information from? Here's a clue. The Saudi-backed faction in control of Douma at the time of the alleged attack, Jaish al- Islam (the Army of Islam), were themselves accused of using poison gas against Kurds in Aleppo in April 2016.

    They are not especially nice. Their other main claim to fame is that they displayed captured Syrian Army officers in cages and used them as human shields.

    They have spent several years indiscriminately shelling Damascus from Douma, having taken the local inhabitants hostage, and then squawking about war crimes if the Syrian government hit back at them, which it did much as the Iraqi government (our friends) did to Islamic State in Mosul and Fallujah. I would not look for any heroes in this cauldron. And if you want to watch war games on a TV screen, can I suggest that you buy your own virtual reality equipment?

    The real thing may look pretty and neat, but real people die as it happens and, if you supported it, their deaths will be on your conscience.

    Is there any better illustration of the huge Soviet-style revolution we have suffered than this moving picture of nurses in an NHS hospital, praying before the start of their shift, half a century ago?

    Nursing and hospitals themselves are more or less a Christian invention – the beautiful 15th Century hospital in Beaune in France is an early example. Yet now open displays of Christianity in the NHS are risky, as they offend against the state creed of 'Equality and Diversity' under which Christians are an embarrassing, outdated nuisance.

    Likewise, Ealing Council's ban on peaceful protests outside an abortion clinic overturns the whole legal and moral system of this country.

    Doctors and nurses trained to save and protect life are instead employed to snuff life out.

    Many women suffer this procedure under pressure from selfish men. Many others have never had the alternatives explained to them.

    While this goes on, thousands of childless couples yearn to adopt but find the procedure increasingly difficult, while abortions are signed off by officialdom with barely a second thought.

    Why? Mainly, it is because the killing of almost 200,000 babies a year sustains a vast industry employing thousands, many of them very well paid, and they don't like criticism.

    Despite claiming to be 'pro-choice', they don't want anyone drawing attention to that choice.

    ****

    Modern alleged artists such as Tracey Emin long to be attacked by people like me. The loathing of conservative suburbanites actually adds value to their stunts.

    But now that Ms Unmade Bed has openly announced that her silly pink illuminated scribble, at St Pancras is pro-EU propaganda, shouldn't it be taken down? Aren't there rules against political advertising in such places?

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:39 pm

    Aristide wrote:
    Assad is burned. Evryone knows no European nation ever will deal with Assad. Putin knows this as well. And Syria needs western deals to be build up.


    if you define European nation as people run globalist totalitarian regime then yes you're right
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:50 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Aristide wrote:
    Assad is burned. Evryone knows no European nation ever will deal with Assad. Putin knows this as well. And Syria needs western deals to be build up.


    if you define European nation as people run  globalist totalitarian regime then yes you're right

    Syrian War: News #17 - Page 8 Algeriariot-lr_6lsmxea

    ^^ That's the "European nation" according to him. pwnd

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