Syrian War: News #16

‘260 militants neutralized’ in Operation Olive Branch

At least 260 militants of the People’s Protection Units (YPG), Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) have been “neutralized” since the beginning of “Operation Olive Branch” in Syria, Turkish General Staff said late on Jan. 23.

“Neutralized” is a term used by the Turkish military and officials to describe militants killed, wounded or captured.

In a statement, the military said Turkey is carrying out the operation under international law and Article 51 of the U.N. Charter and respecting Syrian territorial integrity, state-run Anadolu Agency reported.

It added the operation targets terrorists and their shelters, positions, arms and equipment. Precautions were being taken to prevent civilians and innocents from being harmed in the operation.

[HH] Third soldier killed

It also said the number of Turkish casualties increased to three after a soldier was killed during clashes with militants during the operation. It added one soldier was also injured in the clash.

Turkey on Jan. 20 launched Operation Olive Branch to clear YPG and ISIL militants from Afrin, northwestern Syria.

According to the military, the operation aims to establish security and stability along Turkish borders and the region as well as “protect Syrians from terrorist oppression and cruelty.”

‘260 militants neutralized’ in Operation Olive Branch

Vann7 wrote:

eehnie wrote:Russia, Syria and their allies win nothing with a Turkish Golan in Northern Syria. This is negative for all them.

It means that is likely that military help from Syria begins to move toward the Kurds of Afrin.

I never understand why Turks are so delusional with Erdogan intentions in Syria...
He have been aiding ISIS and ALqaeda ,just like United States and Saudi Arabia..
Turkey was a key player in the capture of Alqaeda of IDLIB... For many years Turkey have been
the #1 base of terrorist from Qatar /US and Saudi Arabia to enter in Syria.. and Iranian media
and Russia media have been all the time saying that Turkey is aiding ISIS and Alqaeda..
with evidence and reports of it...

Erdogan only made a truce with Putin.. purely for economic convenience.. after its economy began to Hurt very bad ,with Russia sanctions on its tourism industry and after seeing Americans increasing their aid to KUrds..
So exactly like you said.. Russia ,neither  Syria have nothing to win with Turkey invading Northen Syria . If Erdogan
really was so heartful and wanted to help.. he will listen Russia and restore relations with Syria.. and respect
the territorial sovereignty of them. Americans provide weapons to the kurds east of euprates.. and Erdogan is invading
only the Kurds closer to Syria coast and Russia military ,those Kurds are are closer to the Syrian government.


So only very naive people ,will think Erdogan is doing anything in Syria for good will.. he only wants a major piece of
land from Syria and to take control of all Kurdish controlled zones and take control of the Oil resources under control of Kurdish territory.  And only Turkey represent a major threat for Russia in the zone not the kurds.. Since TUrkey
historically have been used by the west ,not only now..but even during Russian Empire times... as a meat shield to fight Russia. So from Russia point of view ,a strong Kurdish force , that can counter Turkey is a good thing..and not
a bad one.. but this force needs to be one that is close to Russia and not to US.  Turkey and Russia are very old
enemies.. and Erdogan is only giving some concessions to Russia ,in light the ERdogan is afraid of being totally
isolated in the world.. not liked by NATO and neither by Europe and neither by IRAN or Russia.

So much Kurdish bullcrap and propaganda here. I dont even know where I should begin.

Erdogan backed FSA, SultanMurad, Uyghur- and Turkmen groups and some MuslimBrotherhood-groups. The Turkish Deep State (Gulen/Gladio) backed Al Qaida/Al Nusra or DAESH and allowed them to fight against Kurdo-Yanks and allowed them to travel trough Turkey and Turkish controlled territories. After the fight between Erdogan and Gulen, the Gulenists past this guilt to Erdogan.

Turkey did the SAME what the Assad-Family is doing for 25 years (supporting PKK). And now is Assad allowing YPG-rats to travel trough SAA terrirory to reach Afrin.

FOR THE LAST TIME: Turkey is under Russian influence sphere after the coup, everything what happened between them is in both's favour. The only thing left, is peace with Assad.

And Erdogan is too scared for the elections of 2019 to make peace with Assad, because he accused him 7 years long of everything and anything.

The Ottoman wrote:

Vann7 wrote:

eehnie wrote:Russia, Syria and their allies win nothing with a Turkish Golan in Northern Syria. This is negative for all them.

It means that is likely that military help from Syria begins to move toward the Kurds of Afrin.

I never understand why Turks are so delusional with Erdogan intentions in Syria...
He have been aiding ISIS and ALqaeda ,just like United States and Saudi Arabia..
Turkey was a key player in the capture of Alqaeda of IDLIB... For many years Turkey have been
the #1 base of terrorist from Qatar /US and Saudi Arabia to enter in Syria.. and Iranian media
and Russia media have been all the time saying that Turkey is aiding ISIS and Alqaeda..
with evidence and reports of it...

Erdogan only made a truce with Putin.. purely for economic convenience.. after its economy began to Hurt very bad ,with Russia sanctions on its tourism industry and after seeing Americans increasing their aid to KUrds..
So exactly like you said.. Russia ,neither  Syria have nothing to win with Turkey invading Northen Syria . If Erdogan
really was so heartful and wanted to help.. he will listen Russia and restore relations with Syria.. and respect
the territorial sovereignty of them. Americans provide weapons to the kurds east of euprates.. and Erdogan is invading
only the Kurds closer to Syria coast and Russia military ,those Kurds are are closer to the Syrian government.


So only very naive people ,will think Erdogan is doing anything in Syria for good will.. he only wants a major piece of
land from Syria and to take control of all Kurdish controlled zones and take control of the Oil resources under control of Kurdish territory.  And only Turkey represent a major threat for Russia in the zone not the kurds.. Since TUrkey
historically have been used by the west ,not only now..but even during Russian Empire times... as a meat shield to fight Russia. So from Russia point of view ,a strong Kurdish force , that can counter Turkey is a good thing..and not
a bad one.. but this force needs to be one that is close to Russia and not to US.  Turkey and Russia are very old
enemies.. and Erdogan is only giving some concessions to Russia ,in light the ERdogan is afraid of being totally
isolated in the world.. not liked by NATO and neither by Europe and neither by IRAN or Russia.

So much Kurdish bullcrap and propaganda here. I dont even know where I should begin.

Erdogan backed FSA, SultanMurad, Uyghur- and Turkmen groups and some MuslimBrotherhood-groups. The Turkish Deep State (Gulen/Gladio) backed Al Qaida/Al Nusra or DAESH and allowed them to fight against Kurdo-Yanks and allowed them to travel trough Turkey and Turkish controlled territories. After the fight between Erdogan and Gulen, the Gulenists past this guilt to Erdogan.

Turkey did the SAME what the Assad-Family is doing for 25 years (supporting PKK). And now is Assad allowing YPG-rats to travel trough SAA terrirory to reach Afrin.

FOR THE LAST TIME: Turkey is under Russian influence sphere after the coup, everything what happened between them is in both's favour. The only thing left, is peace with Assad.

And Erdogan is too scared for the elections of 2019 to make peace with Assad, because he accused him 7 years long of everything and anything.

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UPDATE on Syrian soldiers kidnapped by Kurdish YPG in Qamishli

QAMISHLI, Syria - Earlier today, FRN reported that despite being smashed by Turkish-led forces in the Syrian northwest canton of Afrin and by ISIS in the eastern province of Deir Ezzor, forces associated with the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) have decided now is the right time to kidnapped three Syrian Army soldiers and one officer in the northeast city of Qamishli.

The officers were revealed to be Captain of Qamishli Airport, Ahmed Suleiman, and Lieutenant Wassim Mahal.

The YPG have demanded safe passage for their forces to reach the Afrin canton where intense battles between Turkish-led forces and YPG are waging. The only possible way the YPG can reinforce the Afrin front from the rest of the territories they control is by traveling through Syrian government territory.

UPDATE on Syrian soldiers kidnapped by Kurdish YPG in Qamishli

Erdogan wants to ethnically cleanse the Kurds. And settle Arab refugees on their land. That will not pass with the Russians.

Erdoğan: Turkey will first exterminate the terrorists in Afrin and then make the region livable again, all for the 3.5 million Syrians we are currently hosting.

Erdoğan: When Turkish travelers were returning to Germany, they  were attacked by PKK supporters at an airport. Meanwhile, the German  police were watching. What kind of security is this? If something like  this happened in Turkey, Germany would be outraged

Erdoğan: Turkey had a [planned] op named Olive Grove to clear Manbij of terrorists during Obama's term but he cheated us, didn't keep his word despite meetings. US promised to drive terrorists east of Euphrates, since 95 pct of Manbij inhabitants are Arabs, but they didn't

 https://twitter.com/DailySabah/status/956100700966137856

The new Turkish domestic ATAK-helicopter is also in action in Afrin.

Article on Israel's moves in SW Syria, bit too optimistic I'd say but make your own mind up.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/israel-syria-safe-buffer-zone-golan-heights/

Kurdish official say they welcome the Syrian Army in Afrin region

https://muraselon.com/en/2018/01/breaking-kurdish-official-say-welcome-syrian-army-afrin-region/

So much Kurdish bullcrap and propaganda here. I dont even know where I should begin.

Erdogan backed FSA, SultanMurad, Uyghur- and Turkmen groups and some MuslimBrotherhood-groups. The Turkish Deep State (Gulen/Gladio) backed Al Qaida/Al Nusra or DAESH and allowed them to fight against Kurdo-Yanks and allowed them to travel trough Turkey and Turkish controlled territories. After the fight between Erdogan and Gulen, the Gulenists past this guilt to Erdogan.

Turkey did the SAME what the Assad-Family is doing for 25 years (supporting PKK). And now is Assad allowing YPG-rats to travel trough SAA terrirory to reach Afrin.

FOR THE LAST TIME: Turkey is under Russian influence sphere after the coup, everything what happened between them is in both's favour. The only thing left, is peace with Assad.

And Erdogan is too scared for the elections of 2019 to make peace with Assad, because he accused him 7 years long of everything and anything.

ALL the rebels/Terrorist that NATO/and Allies (US,UK,Turkey,Saudi Arabia,Jordan,France) support in Syria , they are all fanatical sectarian islamist , that wants all Syria to become ruled under their interpretation of Islam.
FSA/ISIS/ALqaeda/ALnusra.. and E V E R Y other Militant Group that any NATO and its Allies have been arming ,
to fight Assad.. all of them are Terrorist.. there are no good terrorist. they are kill in the name of their fake religion.

Here take a look.. FSA leaders with Alnusra and ISIS leaders.. a meeting of all the demons..
together like friends. with Americans top senator in Turkey border with Syria with Erdogan Blessings such
meeting could only happen..





So all major terror forces in Syria together like friends ,with Top US senator.. ISIS=Alqaeda=FSA..
what only change is who is their main economic sponsor.. ISIS sponsored by Saudi Arabia ,Alnusra by Qatar/Turkey
and FSA by Turkey. with US supporting all of them.. but also Kurds who kill them. lol

Most FSA (fake/Free Syrian Army) ,disbanded the original group and moved to either ISIS or Alnusra terrorist groups.
they switch from terrorist group to another.. depending on who pays $$ more ? thats all the difference between
terrorist groups.. either FSA/ISIS or Alqaeda/...the economic benefits are different.

All the NATO/Turkey/Saudi Backed militants.. have been fighting to disband Syria in many parts.. and install a fake
Islam state in Syria under the control of NATO and all Middle east most brutal and Repressive states ,like Turkey,Saudi Arabia /Israel and Qatar..  So why will Assad align with Turkey controlled FSA.. since they have been killing their soldiers since the start of the war?????????  

DId you forgot of the cannibal who ate the heart of Syrian soldier and filmed it on video?
guess what .it was not a member of ISIS or Alqaeda.. but of Erdogan lovely Fake/free Syrian army.

So Why will you allow a foreign nation to arm militants to partition your home country   ?????

Why should any Syrian citizen who love its nation ,support ERdogan  ,who have been aiding jihadist groups to kick Syrian citizens from their own land?  

I bet you wouldnt. But here you are .lecturing us.. saying how fool is the Syrian government/Assad in not welcoming
a foreign army invasion in their country ,disrespecting their nation sovereignty.     So are you that
disconnected from reality?

ERdogan is a terrorist.. that have been murdering Syrian people and its civilians and military that support their government.  

So you my friend are completely insane.. you have zero reasoning capabilities.
The true is.. for Syria Government.. They Only trust in their own army.. the one they control and defend their territorial
integrity and sovereignty .. Syrian Government ,neither any Syrian citizens who love their nation ,have any reason
to support Turkey/Israel/Americans illegal invasion on their nation .Neither any of the Jihadist Islamist sectarian terrorist of FSA /Alqaeda /Alnusra/ISIS..  They only welcome nations they trust and that ask permission to be
in their land.. Erdodan have not asked any permission ,so this alone is a major disrespect of Syria sovereignty .
So you can't expect any good positive response ,if you enter in someone else house illegally at gun point and refuse
to leave..  


And Syria government neither support Kurds independence and any partition of Syria..
But Syria government do see , the Kurds and the lesser problem of all for them... for the sole Reason ,they can negotiate with them.. aside the Kurds in Syria are not driven by Religious fanaticism over ISlam.. like the FSA/ALqaeda and ISIS does. Kurds are only driving by Politcs.. they want to see their independence.. So while the Syrian government don't support Kurds independence goal for obvious reasons.. that no government will support its nation to be split.. at the same time.. they see their intentions as more or less morally acceptable.. because is only about politics.. and not driven by sectarianism hate or religious Fanaticism of Islamits fighters as is the case of FSA/ISIS and Alqaeda..  NATO/TUrkey backed Rebels are all terrorist...  while Kurds in Syria at least , they are Opportunist.. yes.. but not religious extremist.
like Alqaeda/FSA or ISIS..

So this is why Russia/Assad can talk with Kurds in Syria... and did not recognize them as terrorist.. because they
are not terrorist.. They are only brainwashed people by the Americans.. into fighting for an Indepence that will never
work..  Kurds fight for a piece of land to live in peace ... While FSA/ALqaeda and ISIS fight for 72 virgins and their fake religion.   So this is why Syrian government.. will collaborate in difficult times with Kurds.. because at least , their only differences with Kurds is based on Politics..and not on terrorism.    Americans managed to bribe $$$ some kurds leaders in the east of euprates to get closer to them , and to include some former of terrorist of FSA into their military..
But not all kurds supports this..  and this is one of the major myth of Turkey people about Kurds..  They are not
united.. The Kurds in IRAQ and Syria they are not united... the ones in IRAQ are more sectarian..fundamentalist more islamist.. while the ones in Syria ,they are liberal ,welcome European Union culture and friendly to Christians..

and neither the Kurds in Syria are united.. Some kurds zones ,like the one now Turkey is invading,Support the Syrian government and reject the partition of Syria. While the eastern of euprates Kurds were americans are... located.
they are more closer to NATO than to Russia and they were convinced $$$ to take territory away from Syria.

So naturally it can be understood why Syria Government/Russia will cooperate with Some Kurds ,not all.. but some of them ,the ones they have better relations in order to stop a Madman like Erdogan  is..and the FSA/Alqaeda terrorist he support.  Kurds represent no threat to Russia.. they are not NATO members who attack Russian planes.. in the other hand.. the last Attack on Russia jets was done by Turkey airforce ,and the last attack on Russia military base with drones was done by Erdogan backed terrorist ,that americans managed to bribe in IDLIB.     So what the fuck you are lecturing us.. Turkey needs to get the hell out of Syria... otherwise.. it will be a matter of time he will provoke a war with Russia .and it will not end well. for Turkey state to start a war with a nuclear power country like RUssia .

So if its not right for Any nation to invade Turkey Airspace or territory..to fight FSA terrorist that erdogan protects..
why is right for Turkey to invade Syria? and provide weapons to Jihadist ,that later not only attack Syria army..but also Russia military??    

Erdogan is only playing double/triple games with everyone....and you are really naive if believe he have any good intentions in Syria..Erdogan is betraying Turkey people.. by supporting Israel/Americans destruction of Syria and arming terrorist to partition Syria. Ruining relations with all its neighbors RUssia/IRAN/Syria in support for an Israel/Americans lead war. Is only thanks to Turkey ,that Syria lose IDLIB , since the terrorist came from Turkey border and Erdogan is only doing what NATO have been telling them to do.. to populate northern Syria ,with people friendly to Turkey that they can manipulate in order to steal land away from Syria.

So its Erdogan policies of seeking to partition Syria ,what have made the Kurds stronger than ever .
Turkey used its border as a safe zone.. for all the terrorist that NATO wanted to infiltrate in Syria around the world.
He did not calculated ,that helping Americans war against Syria ..will also mean helping Kurds to become stronger and treaten his own nation integrity.. If any you need to learn from Syria war. .is that Americans will always support the enemies of its enemies... but also the enemies of its allies too.. that way they will always have a card to play in case its allies are not loyal enough ,and did not follow Americans interest in the world.

So This is why American military supports Erdogan  ,but at the same time supports its opposition Gulen too.
and the kurds who oppose both of them too. Just in case they need to get rid of a puppet Government ,when is not loyal enough to American interest.

In Afrin, it is obvious that almost all the weapons of the Kurds are from Syria. It would not be possible other origin in significant amounts. And the movement of weapons toward the Kurds of Afrin will very likely increase.

Syria, Russia and their allies have 0 interest in a domination of Afrin by Turkey, in a Turkish Golan.

Saudi Arabia lost the war in Syria and Iraq, and as consequence the conflict expanded closer to them, now they have the war "at home". Today Saudi Arabia is unable to fight outside the Arabian Peninsula, the conflict with the Shia population of Yemen is strong and is expanding toward Saudi Arabia where also there is Shia population.

Turkey is going the same way.

Israel is going the same way.

JohninMK wrote:Article on Israel's moves in SW Syria, bit too optimistic I'd say but make your own mind up.

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/23/israel-syria-safe-buffer-zone-golan-heights/

No way and never! From 2011 to 2014 I would say...yes. Israel had a good chance, but timeframe is closed and Syria would be a very hard nut for Israel. Have a closer look, Israel would occupy vast territory near to Damascus, so Syria would throw everything in they have and the death toll would be too high for Israel. Syrian troops have now a good level of training, experience and lot of fancy stuff (tanks, ATGM etc.). SAA is now only the hard core of a formerly runaway army (like most arab armies).

People in Israel love their children too, so I expect they will not throw their children in the big meat grinder called Syria!

Israel ist just doing what they have done before...supporting stupid jihadi scum. After jihadis are defeated they will try to make a deal with Assad and Russia to keep the influence of Iran low.

calm wrote:Erdogan wants to ethnically cleanse the Kurds. And settle Arab refugees on their land. That will not pass with the Russians.

Erdoğan: Turkey will first exterminate the terrorists in Afrin and then make the region livable again, all for the 3.5 million Syrians we are currently hosting.

Erdoğan: When Turkish travelers were returning to Germany, they  were attacked by PKK supporters at an airport. Meanwhile, the German  police were watching. What kind of security is this? If something like  this happened in Turkey, Germany would be outraged

Erdoğan: Turkey had a [planned] op named Olive Grove to clear Manbij of terrorists during Obama's term but he cheated us, didn't keep his word despite meetings. US promised to drive terrorists east of Euphrates, since 95 pct of Manbij inhabitants are Arabs, but they didn't

 https://twitter.com/DailySabah/status/956100700966137856

This is distorted Turkish propaganda.

The reality:

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201801231060988819-fight-kurds-turks-germany-hannover/

[b]WATCH Mass Fight Between Turks, Kurds Breaks Out in Germany's Hannover Airport © REUTERS/ Ayfer Amara/Frauenrat Ronahi and Nav-Dem Hannover[/b]

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MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Kurdish protesters and Turkish passengers began brawling inside the airport of the German northwestern city of Hannover, with two people receiving minor injuries as a result, police said.
The incident took place late on Monday in Terminal B and was caused by a spontaneous demonstration of Kurdish people against Turkey's military actions in Syria.

The demonstrators yelled accusations against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Ergodan. The Turkish passengers, who were awaiting their flight to Istanbul, attacked the Kurds, delaying the flight by over 30 minutes, according to media reports.


According to preliminary data, some 180 people were present at the site of the incident, and the authorities had to use tear gas against 20 individuals involved in the fight in order to keep the situation under control, according to police.

READ MORE: Kurds Reportedly Destroy Five Turkish Tanks Amid Offensive in Syria (VIDEO)

A criminal investigation into the incident was launched, according to the German authorities.

The incident comes against the backdrop of Turkey's operation dubbed the "Olive Branch" against the Kurdish forces in the Syrian district of Afrin, started by Ankara on Saturday.

Vann7 wrote:

So much Kurdish bullcrap and propaganda here. I dont even know where I should begin.

Erdogan backed FSA, SultanMurad, Uyghur- and Turkmen groups and some MuslimBrotherhood-groups. The Turkish Deep State (Gulen/Gladio) backed Al Qaida/Al Nusra or DAESH and allowed them to fight against Kurdo-Yanks and allowed them to travel trough Turkey and Turkish controlled territories. After the fight between Erdogan and Gulen, the Gulenists past this guilt to Erdogan.

Turkey did the SAME what the Assad-Family is doing for 25 years (supporting PKK). And now is Assad allowing YPG-rats to travel trough SAA terrirory to reach Afrin.

FOR THE LAST TIME: Turkey is under Russian influence sphere after the coup, everything what happened between them is in both's favour. The only thing left, is peace with Assad.

And Erdogan is too scared for the elections of 2019 to make peace with Assad, because he accused him 7 years long of everything and anything.

ALL the rebels/Terrorist that NATO/and Allies (US,UK,Turkey,Saudi Arabia,Jordan,France) support in Syria , they are all fanatical sectarian islamist , that wants all Syria to become ruled under their interpretation of Islam.
FSA/ISIS/ALqaeda/ALnusra.. and E V E R Y other Militant Group that any NATO and its Allies have been arming ,
to fight Assad.. all of them are Terrorist.. there are no good terrorist. they are kill in the name of their fake religion.

Here take a look.. FSA leaders with Alnusra and ISIS leaders.. a meeting of all the demons..
together like friends. with Americans top senator in Turkey border with Syria with Erdogan Blessings such
meeting could only happen..





So all major terror forces in Syria together like friends ,with Top US senator.. ISIS=Alqaeda=FSA..
what only change is who is their main economic sponsor.. ISIS sponsored by Saudi Arabia ,Alnusra by Qatar/Turkey
and FSA by Turkey. with US supporting all of them.. but also Kurds who kill them. lol

Most FSA (fake/Free Syrian Army) ,disbanded the original group and moved to either ISIS or Alnusra terrorist groups.
they switch from terrorist group to another.. depending on who pays $$ more ?  thats all the difference between
terrorist groups.. either FSA/ISIS or Alqaeda/...the economic benefits are different.

All the NATO/Turkey/Saudi Backed militants.. have been fighting to disband Syria in many parts.. and install a fake
Islam state in Syria under the control of NATO and all Middle east most brutal and Repressive states ,like Turkey,Saudi Arabia /Israel and Qatar..  So why will Assad align with Turkey controlled FSA.. since they have been killing their soldiers since the start of the war?????????  

DId you forgot of the cannibal who ate the heart of Syrian soldier and filmed it on video?
guess what .it was not a member of ISIS or Alqaeda.. but of Erdogan lovely Fake/free Syrian army.

So Why will you allow a foreign nation to arm militants to partition your home country   ?????

Why should any Syrian citizen who love its nation ,support ERdogan  ,who have been aiding jihadist groups to kick Syrian citizens from their own land?  

I bet you wouldnt. But here you are .lecturing us.. saying how fool is the Syrian government/Assad in not welcoming
a foreign army invasion in their country ,disrespecting their nation sovereignty.     So are you that
disconnected from reality?

ERdogan is a terrorist.. that have been murdering Syrian people and its civilians and military that support their government.  

So you my friend are completely insane.. you have zero reasoning capabilities.
The true is.. for Syria Government.. They Only trust in their own army.. the one they control and defend their territorial
integrity and sovereignty .. Syrian Government ,neither any Syrian citizens who love their nation ,have any reason
to support Turkey/Israel/Americans illegal invasion on their nation .Neither any of the Jihadist Islamist sectarian terrorist of FSA /Alqaeda /Alnusra/ISIS..  They only welcome nations they trust and that ask permission to be
in their land.. Erdodan have not asked any permission ,so this alone is a major disrespect of Syria sovereignty .
So you can't expect any good positive response ,if you enter in someone else house illegally at gun point and refuse
to leave..  


And Syria government neither support Kurds independence and any partition of Syria..
But Syria government do see , the Kurds and the lesser problem of all for them... for the sole Reason ,they can negotiate with them.. aside the Kurds in Syria are not driven by Religious fanaticism over ISlam.. like the FSA/ALqaeda and ISIS does. Kurds are only driving by Politcs.. they want to see their independence.. So while the Syrian government don't support Kurds independence goal for obvious reasons.. that no government will support its nation to be split.. at the same time.. they see their intentions as more or less morally acceptable.. because is only about politics.. and not driven by sectarianism hate or religious Fanaticism of Islamits fighters as is the case of FSA/ISIS and Alqaeda..  NATO/TUrkey backed Rebels are all terrorist...  while Kurds in Syria at least , they are Opportunist.. yes.. but not religious extremist.
like Alqaeda/FSA or ISIS..

So this is why Russia/Assad can talk with Kurds in Syria... and did not recognize them as terrorist.. because they
are not terrorist.. They are only brainwashed people by the Americans.. into fighting for an Indepence that will never
work..  Kurds fight for a piece of land to live in peace ... While FSA/ALqaeda and ISIS fight for 72 virgins and their fake religion.   So this is why Syrian government.. will collaborate in difficult times with Kurds.. because at least , their only differences with Kurds is based on Politics..and not on terrorism.    Americans managed to bribe $$$ some kurds leaders in the east of euprates to get closer to them , and to include some former of terrorist of FSA into their military..
But not all kurds supports this..  and this is one of the major myth of Turkey people about Kurds..  They are not
united.. The Kurds in IRAQ and Syria they are not united... the ones in IRAQ are more sectarian..fundamentalist more islamist.. while the ones in Syria ,they are liberal ,welcome European Union culture and friendly to Christians..

and neither the Kurds in Syria are united.. Some kurds zones ,like the one now Turkey is invading,Support the Syrian government and reject the partition of Syria. While the eastern of euprates Kurds were americans are... located.
they are more closer to NATO than to Russia and they were convinced $$$ to take territory away from Syria.

So naturally it can be understood why Syria Government/Russia will cooperate with Some Kurds ,not all.. but some of them ,the ones they have better relations in order to stop a Madman like Erdogan  is..and the FSA/Alqaeda terrorist he support.  Kurds represent no threat to Russia.. they are not NATO members who attack Russian planes.. in the other hand.. the last Attack on Russia jets was done by Turkey airforce ,and the last attack on Russia military base with drones was done by Erdogan backed terrorist ,that americans managed to bribe in IDLIB.     So what the fuck you are lecturing us.. Turkey needs to get the hell out of Syria... otherwise.. it will be a matter of time he will provoke a war with Russia .and it will not end well. for Turkey state to start a war with a nuclear power country like RUssia .

So if its not right for Any nation to invade Turkey Airspace or territory..to fight FSA terrorist that erdogan protects..
why is right for Turkey to invade Syria? and provide weapons to Jihadist ,that later not only attack Syria army..but also Russia military??    

Erdogan is only playing double/triple games with everyone....and you are really naive if believe he have any good intentions in Syria..Erdogan is betraying Turkey people.. by supporting Israel/Americans destruction of Syria and arming terrorist to partition Syria. Ruining relations with all its neighbors RUssia/IRAN/Syria in support for an Israel/Americans lead war. Is only thanks to Turkey ,that Syria lose IDLIB , since the terrorist came from Turkey border and Erdogan is only doing what NATO have been telling them to do.. to populate northern Syria ,with people friendly to Turkey that they can manipulate in order to steal land away from Syria.

So its Erdogan policies of seeking to partition Syria ,what have made the Kurds stronger than ever .
Turkey used its border as a safe zone.. for all the terrorist that NATO wanted to infiltrate in Syria around the world.
He did not calculated ,that helping Americans war against Syria ..will also mean helping Kurds to become stronger and treaten his own nation integrity.. If any you need to learn from Syria war. .is that Americans will always support the enemies of its enemies... but also the enemies of its allies too.. that way they will always have a card to play in case its allies are not loyal enough ,and did not follow Americans interest in the world.

So This is why American military supports Erdogan  ,but at the same time supports its opposition Gulen too.
and the kurds who oppose both of them too. Just in case they need to get rid of a puppet Government ,when is not loyal enough to American interest.

Turkey has the right to secure its borders from Kurdo-Yanks. Turkey has also the right to protect its citizens from rockets (like today). If it was not for Turkey, today there would be a Kurdish Republic in Syria. So Assad should give Erdogan oral sex.

The PKK is terrorizing Turkey for almost 40 years now, and the Assad-familiy supported the PKK with logistics and weapons. The PKK had offices and trainingcamps in Syria for years.

There is no proof that Turkey supported ISIS. Neither Russia, nor the Americans could prove it. It was a fake CIA before the coup to isolate Erdogan, the CIA even apologized for this.

Kurds are the real reason for all the chaos in the Middle East. With their treason and separatism they inviting the Americans to the region.

The West dont care about Kurds, they only use them as a weapon against Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq and throw them away as a condom when they are not needed anymore.

Stop this in your Kurdish ears.

eehnie wrote:
This is distorted Turkish propaganda.

The reality:

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201801231060988819-fight-kurds-turks-germany-hannover/

[b]WATCH Mass Fight Between Turks, Kurds Breaks Out in Germany's Hannover Airport © REUTERS/ Ayfer Amara/Frauenrat Ronahi and Nav-Dem Hannover[/b]

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Topic: Turkey Starts Operation 'Olive Branch' in Syria (37)
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MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Kurdish protesters and Turkish passengers began brawling inside the airport of the German northwestern city of Hannover, with two people receiving minor injuries as a result, police said.
The incident took place late on Monday in Terminal B and was caused by a spontaneous demonstration of Kurdish people against Turkey's military actions in Syria.

The demonstrators yelled accusations against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Ergodan. The Turkish passengers, who were awaiting their flight to Istanbul, attacked the Kurds, delaying the flight by over 30 minutes, according to media reports.


According to preliminary data, some 180 people were present at the site of the incident, and the authorities had to use tear gas against 20 individuals involved in the fight in order to keep the situation under control, according to police.

READ MORE: Kurds Reportedly Destroy Five Turkish Tanks Amid Offensive in Syria (VIDEO)

A criminal investigation into the incident was launched, according to the German authorities.

The incident comes against the backdrop of Turkey's operation dubbed the "Olive Branch" against the Kurdish forces in the Syrian district of Afrin, started by Ankara on Saturday.

The Turkish passangers were very reasonable.

Please tell me, why are those marxist unibrows crying with flags at airpost in front of Turkish Airlines ticket booths?

Afcourse they will be attacked.

If you have guts, go scream ''Netanyahu babykiller'' in front of a El-Al office at any airport, the security will gie you a headshot. And if you hae more guts, go fight in Afrin because your unibrow-brothers are falling like flies.

The Kurdish PR-machine is running at high speed whahahahah

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201801211060943580-kurds-destroy-five-turkish-tanks/

Kurds Reportedly Destroy Five Turkish Tanks Amid Offensive in Syria (VIDEO) AFP 2018/ ARIS MESSINIS

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A video has appeared on YouTube showing the Kurdish YPG militia launch an anti-tank guided missile at a Turkish Leopard tank as the Turkish Army advanced toward Afrin in an offensive against the Kurdish forces.
According to the ANF News agency, the tank was hit in the area of the village of Kurdo in the Bilbil district of the Syrian city of Afrin on Sunday morning.

The video has been posted on the YouTube channel of the Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG).

In a single day, Kurdish fighters destroyed five Turkish tanks in the Afrin area, ANF reported.


Two tanks were hit in the village of Diqmetash and two in the vicinity of the town of Tel-Rifat. It is in these areas that the fiercest battles are currently being fought between Kurds and the Turkish Army.

The Kurdish command reported that four Turkish soldiers and 10 pro-Turkish guerrillas were killed in the fighting in northwestern Syria.

"As a result of these clashes, 10 members of the gang were killed in different parts of the region, 20 bandits [members of the armed Syrian opposition] were wounded. In addition, four Turkish soldiers were killed and many were injured in clashes in Bilbil,” the YPG reported in a press release.

It also said that during the clashes three soldiers of the Kurdish militia were killed.

A Turkish army tank moves toward the Syrian border, in Reyhanlı, Turkey, Thursday, Jan. 18, 2018
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Erdogan Vows Turkey to Quickly Conclude Op in Syria as 'Terrorists' Already Fleeing
Turkey launched an offensive in northern Syria against the Kurdish forces Ankara considers terrorists. The operation dubbed "Olive Branch" was launched with airstrikes on Kurdish targets in Afrin on Saturday.
The strikes resulted in the damage of 108 targets out of 113 planned.

On Sunday, Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim confirmed the beginning of a ground offensive in the region.

It was noted that Turkish armored vehicles had advanced some 3.5 kilometers into the Syrian territory.

The situation on the Syrian-Turkish border had recently become tense, with the Turkish armed forces shelling YPG positions, which it considers to be an affiliate of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), designated as a terrorist organization in Turkey and several other countries.

Despite the fact that the military operation has already been condemned by Damascus, calling it a violation of Syrian sovereignty, Ankara calls it self-defense under international law.

More rats are dying and dying, and worldwide they are crying and crying.

''Oh Kurdoboy, Kurdoboy, what you gonna do when the Turks come for you?''

[quote="eehnie"]https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201801211060943580-kurds-destroy-five-turkish-tanks/

Kurds Reportedly Destroy Five Turkish Tanks Amid Offensive in Syria (VIDEO) AFP 2018/ ARIS MESSINIS

Hahahaha.

OMG. More bullshit from the PKK-fakenewsfactory. Shame on you Sputnik!

That video is from 3 days ago. Here below you see the damage at that Leopard tank from the video.





It looks like the rats failed.

There are no tanks lost or destroyed. Almost none of the tanks even came in action, because the rats fled.

There is no one to shoot at. Every village the FSA and TSK enters, is abandoned. Large tunnel complexes etc.





The PKK is famous because of their rattling PR-machine. They show themselves heroic and the enemy weak and faking with numbers, to ensure more recruits. Their fanbase is very big in Europe and they all use social media.

They give women and kids weapons to fight against Turkish Army, and after that they cry worldwide that Turkey killed civillians.




For now, the Operation is going wel, but there is a lot of fog and it is a mountaineous are, so the advance is slow.

The Ottoman wrote:

eehnie wrote:
This is distorted Turkish propaganda.

The reality:

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201801231060988819-fight-kurds-turks-germany-hannover/

[b]WATCH Mass Fight Between Turks, Kurds Breaks Out in Germany's Hannover Airport © REUTERS/ Ayfer Amara/Frauenrat Ronahi and Nav-Dem Hannover[/b]

EUROPE
12:14 23.01.2018(updated 12:16 23.01.2018) Get short URL
Topic: Turkey Starts Operation 'Olive Branch' in Syria (37)
6121
MOSCOW (Sputnik) - Kurdish protesters and Turkish passengers began brawling inside the airport of the German northwestern city of Hannover, with two people receiving minor injuries as a result, police said.
The incident took place late on Monday in Terminal B and was caused by a spontaneous demonstration of Kurdish people against Turkey's military actions in Syria.

The demonstrators yelled accusations against Turkish President Recep Tayyip Ergodan. The Turkish passengers, who were awaiting their flight to Istanbul, attacked the Kurds, delaying the flight by over 30 minutes, according to media reports.


According to preliminary data, some 180 people were present at the site of the incident, and the authorities had to use tear gas against 20 individuals involved in the fight in order to keep the situation under control, according to police.

READ MORE: Kurds Reportedly Destroy Five Turkish Tanks Amid Offensive in Syria (VIDEO)

A criminal investigation into the incident was launched, according to the German authorities.

The incident comes against the backdrop of Turkey's operation dubbed the "Olive Branch" against the Kurdish forces in the Syrian district of Afrin, started by Ankara on Saturday.

The Turkish passangers were very reasonable.

Please tell me, why are those marxist unibrows crying with flags at airpost in front of Turkish Airlines ticket booths?

Afcourse they will be attacked.

If you have guts, go scream ''Netanyahu babykiller'' in front of a El-Al office at any airport, the security will gie you a headshot. And if you hae more guts, go fight in Afrin because your unibrow-brothers are falling like flies.

The Kurds, men and women, are significantly more courageus than this:

https://www.russiadefence.net/t7072p625-syrian-civil-war-news-16#214355

The Ottoman wrote:

eehnie wrote:

The Ottoman wrote:Russia and Iran must help Turkey, because the Turkish operations in Syria are preventing a Kurdish Republic from Afrin till Raqqa.

The SAA could never handle the Kurdish problem witthout Turkey.

Why you attacked not Raqqa then?

All this is ridiculous.

If Turkey attacks Manbij or Raqqa, than the US will bomb Turkey to the stone age. Turkey is not strong enough to face the USA with single-eyebrow Kurdo-Yank backstabbers all over the homeland.

Turkey only wants to clean the borders and prevent the Balkanisation of Syria and Iraq.

calm wrote:Turkish backed rats loses in Hama, Aleppo and Idlib in last 2 months.

Almost 1/3 of territory lost.




Rats keep dying in Afrin now, Turkey is using them as a cheap meat in a first lines.

A very interesting map since it appears to me that the "Islamic State" and the Alawite-dominated regime are both fighting on the same side against the moderate FSA.

Yes, that pro-Nazi tyrant Assad is fighting together with the ISIS against the FSA.

This map shows it rather clearly.

The West never intended to overthrow Assad, he and his father gave shelter to too many German war criminals for the West to want to overthrow the Alawite minority rule.

Notice Putin is very keen not to hurt the Ukrainian nationalists too much; he is very eager to stick to all this Minsk 2 bull-shit.

http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

Because Germany would be displeased?

kvs wrote:

Odin of Ossetia wrote:

calm wrote:Turkish backed rats loses in Hama, Aleppo and Idlib in last 2 months.

Almost 1/3 of territory lost.




Rats keep dying in Afrin now, Turkey is using them as a cheap meat in a first lines.

A very interesting map since it appears to me that the "Islamic State" and the Alawite-dominated regime are both fighting on the same side against the moderate FSA.

Yes, that pro-Nazi tyrant Assad is fighting together with the ISIS against the FSA.

This map shows it rather clearly.

The West never intended to overthrow Assad, he and his father gave shelter to too many German war criminals for the West to want to overthrow the Alawite minority rule.

Notice Putin is very keen not to hurt the Ukrainian nationalists too much; he is very eager to stick to all this Minsk 2 bull-shit.

http://michalw.narod.ru/index-Truth.html

Because Germany would be displeased?

God what a nitwit you are.   The black Daesh zone is confronting the SAA.   That Daesh and the FSA fight or pretend to fight
does not support your retarded interpretation whatsoever.  

An example of your retarded logic would be to claim that the Bosnian Croats were Serb allies because they fought the Islamists.  

My logic is entirely sound.

Look at the map, the ISIS and the Alawite regime do not fight each other, but they both fight the moderate FSA at the same time.


With regard to Bosnia-Hercegovina there is a rumor going around that the whole Croat-Bosnian Muslim fighting was caused by the "former Communists" in the Croat ranks, and that the hard core Ustasa supporters were totally against it.

It could be true, as the West tried really hard to re-create the neo-Ustasa "Croat-Bosniak alliance" and during the late stage in the war they succeeded in re-establishing it.

The Ottoman wrote:

Turkey has the right to secure its borders from Kurdo-Yanks. Turkey has also the right to protect its citizens from rockets (like today). If it was not for Turkey, today there would be a Kurdish Republic in Syria. So Assad should give Erdogan oral sex.

The PKK is terrorizing Turkey for almost 40 years now, and the Assad-familiy supported the PKK with logistics and weapons. The PKK had offices and trainingcamps in Syria for years.

There is no proof that Turkey supported ISIS. Neither Russia, nor the Americans could prove it. It was a fake CIA before the coup to isolate Erdogan, the CIA even apologized for this.

Kurds are the real reason for all the chaos in the Middle East. With their treason and separatism they inviting the Americans to the region.

The West dont care about Kurds, they only use them as a weapon against Turkey, Iran, Syria and Iraq and throw them away as a condom when they are not needed anymore.

Stop this in your Kurdish ears.

Putin Himself exposed Erdogan in G20 meeting in Turkey.. when he told thousands of trucks of an Erdogan family
member (his son) enters in RAQQA to take oil and later transport it to Turkey ,where they sell it outside in the world.
So Erdogan was stealing Syria Oil , with ISIS helps and later making a good fortune of it...

Putin even told members present in G20.. (in Turkey meeting) have a lucrative oil business with ISIS.
Stealing OIl from Syria.

So how is possible that dozens of THOUSANDS of oil trucks enters in Turkey every day ,with oil from Syria
from ISIS controlled zones without Turkey military or Erdogan knowing it ?  


here Russian military on an international conference exposing Erdogan Multimillionare
oil business with ISIS




Syria: Russian MoD release footage of ISIS oil tankers at Turkish border




 So don't make a mistake ,Erdogan have been playing with Terrorism.. as much as Saudi Arabia and Americans.. and the security problems that now Turkey face.. is consequences of Erdogan policies in Syria.. He have been playing
too the game of aiding terrorism in Syria..and now he face a blowback.. because the terrorist he once supported
are now attacking Turkey too..

Erdogan is enemy of humanity. and  Putin don't Trust in ERdogan either. Because he have a tendency to betray people that helps him.
 Russia-Putin is being forced to try hard on diplomacy ,using its Business influence and its military technology like a carrot to influence Erdogan away of its illegal war against Syria and its support of terrorism.. This is because if ERdogan don't change its policies ,it will lead to a direct war with Russia.. consequence of Erdogan aid to Terrorism and its illegal war to Partition Syria.



There are hundreds of reports with solid evidence that Turkey Government trained many of ISIS fighters ,this is what the ISIS captured fighters have said.. Russia Government military and media and IRAnian military generals and its media PressTV.. also have been for very long exposing Erdogan connections with ISIS too...

No Erdogan have no right to invade a foreign nation with the pretext of "FIghting Terrorism" ,since it is
ERdogan the one who support terrorism in the first place. Erdogan only fights Kurds.and Syrian army. and not ISIS or Alnusra or FSA.. The Kurds grow to power in Syria  is only consequences of Erdogan illegal proxy war against Syria... allowing NATO and SAudi Arabia and Qatar to infiltrate any terrorist fighter in Syria to partition in Syria..

The Kurds will have never take any territory in Syria ..if Erdogan blocked NATO/Americans from infiltrating jihadist
to Fight Assad.. But Turkey played a major Role in weakening the Syrian army ,by using its borders along side Syria
as Safe zone for all Islamic Terrorist fighters ,that NATO,Saudi Arabia and Qatar sent... So by weaking the Syrian army.. Turkey strengthened not only ISIS and other terrorist in Syria.. but also helped the Kurds..to take advantage of this ,to start taking more land from them..and move closer to unifying all Kurdish zones. So the terrorism that Turkey now face is consequence of Erdogan criminal policies in Syria.. Erdogan nows needs to Rule like a dictator forever in Turkey... he can't never step down.. because he have been exposed by Russia and IRAN and Opposition parties too in Turkey of his connections with ISIS and other terrorist groups and his major role in the violence and crimes in Syria.
So the only future of Erdogan is to be hanged , in public for war crimes against humanity..for his attempt to provoke
a genocide of millions with the hundred of thousands islamic religious extremist that NATO and Saudi Arabia recruit and that he help to enter in Syria..through the Turkey border.  Is Erdogan the one who helped terrorism to grow and become stronger ..and he is now facing the backlash because Americans were also supporting not only  Anti Assad militants.. but also ANti ERdogan too..  AMericans use Kurds to blackmail Erdogan ,so he is more loyal to US interest in the world. So Erdogan created Turkey problems today of security ,for aiding Terrorism for so many years in Syria..
he never taught Americans will be also aiding Kurds too ,so they could have a card to play against Turkey too.. in the form of "freedom fighters."