Syrian War: News #16

That eehnie and Vann7 guy fucked up whole thread again. Oil trucks, nuclear bombs in incirlik, Nato etc.. always the same shit.

Whenever I saw these two people, they are always talking about How they are afraid about NATO and NATO-State Turkey. Yes, This is what I'm literally see.

Hey look! Turkey is NATO Member and 1960's era Nuclear ''DUMB'' Bombs are stored in İncirlik. We shouldn't sell S-400 to them but we can buy amphibious assault ships from France, which is also another NATO Member!! Woaw!!! And These france guys also have ballistic missile submarines but who cares? 1960's era Nuclear ''DUMB'' Bombs in Turkey is much more dangerous than ballistic missiles of France!!! Hell yeah baby!!!

Yes, This is what they literally think.

NATO is fucked up when Soviet Union was dead, Yes your majestic motherland. İt was killed by The United States of America in 1991. First, USSR were poisoned by the United States and it became the sick of man Europe. Like before Ottoman Empire was dead. Than USSR was collapse and dead in 1991. When the Soviet Union died, poor America became the alone. Yes, Your biggest opponent during the fucking Cold War. Guess What did America do after the Soviet Union died? They have created their new fucking opponents! Hey look! Saddam invaded whole of Kuwait and he probably have some badass mass destruction weapons in his secret case! Lets kill him and Destroy his country! Hey! Yugoslavia is only Communist state in Europe! Why dont we drop some bombs on them? Than Afganistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen.... and it goes like that.

Yes, this is what USA did after your majestic motherland died.

During the Cold war. West Germany was protecting Europe against the spread of Communism. West Germany's army was stronger than the Today's German Army. And Turkey, with a special geopolitical position, Something that has never been in other NATO members, there were borders between NATO-State Turkey and USSR(Today's Armenia-Turkey, Georgia-Turkey Border). We were also protecting Middle East against USSR like West Germany did in Europe. Than suddenly your majestic motherland died and these two countries become useless for USA. How can America sell weapons to other countries when there is no enemy? By creating your own enemies of course. And Turkey is in the middle of that fucking mess situation and trying to do something to survive.

Lets talk about NATO, the most scary thing in the world for eehnie and Vann7!! But NATO is also very sick, like before USSR and Ottoman Empire collapse. There is no Command hierarchy in NATO. Nobody knows what other NATO states do in NATO. Turkey is fight against YPG in Syria and PKK in Turkey. Two of them are directly supporting by USA, France, UK and Germany. A NATO Member fight against terrorist organization, which is also supporting by other NATO States. That just fucking single event shows that NATO is fucked up and that two guy, one of them probably lives in Basque Country cuz this is what I understand from his profile picture and he is probably want to his state become independent like his failed Catalan friends trying to do in Catalonia, and other guy he is probably live in somewhere around in Russia(I think not too far from Siberia) and his only job is write something about Turkey and NATO not less than 5 pages and 10,000 characters. Anyway, that two guy still think that NATO is uber super military organization in the world and Turkey's dumb bombs in İncirlik are 10 times powerful than Tsar Bombs in Russia.

Turkey refused 30 KM security buffer zone proposal by US. It is announced by deputy prime minister. This proves that eehnie and his amigos are talking shit about Turkey.

You may not like Turkey, or Turkish policy, but you can not lie on them because reality will disprove you sooner or later.And you will be just remembered as liars.

Turkish and Russian way of looking Syrian problem is different. But thing is common, Syria should not be divided.

Had Turkey wanted to divide Syria, Turkish officials would not bother themselves with talks in Astana.

Biggest difference in these talks between Turkey and Russia is whether Assad should stay or not during political transition. That is the main issue. Even Kurdish representation is agreed upon.Instead of terrorist YPG, which employs eehnie here, ENKS will represent Kurds, and they do not desire to be a different entity in Syria.

Let us look at how eehnie lies about YPG. According to him, Syria should stay as one, not divided. Of course, it is not an honest desire, since he works for seperatists.

YPG desires:

-To have a seperate armed force in Syria
-To be a "federal entity"
-To have economic independence
-To control energy sources of Syria
-To let foreigns intervene (US)
-To be independent from Damascus in terms of governmental appointments
-To raise their shitty "flag" on their areas of control and maybe Syrian flag as a "procedure"

And Kurdish representation that Turkey and Russia invited desires only to be as equal as any other Syrian and have their cultural freedom. They do not want anything that may lead Syrian partition.

As seen above, YPG wants everything that defines an independent state but its formal declaration. They want a STATE. But it will be "Syrian" on paper. That is what hypocrites here want.

You guys are still not ashamed, instead I started to feel the shame for you. But given that you are double agents, it is normal for you.

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The Ottoman wrote:
The Kurds will have never take any territory in Syria ..if Erdogan blocked NATO/Americans from infiltrating jihadist
to Fight Assad.. But Turkey played a major Role in weakening the Syrian army ,by using its borders along side Syria
as Safe zone for all Islamic Terrorist fighters ,that NATO,Saudi Arabia and Qatar sent... So by weaking the Syrian army.. Turkey strengthened not only ISIS and other terrorist in Syria.. but also helped the Kurds..to take advantage of this ,to start taking more land from them..and move closer to unifying all Kurdish zones. So the terrorism that Turkey now face is consequence of Erdogan criminal policies in Syria.. Erdogan nows needs to Rule like a dictator forever in Turkey... he can't never step down.. because he have been exposed by Russia and IRAN and Opposition parties too in Turkey of his connections with ISIS and other terrorist groups and his major role in the violence and crimes in Syria.
So the only future of Erdogan is to be hanged , in public for war crimes against humanity..for his attempt to provoke
a genocide of millions with the hundred of thousands islamic religious extremist that NATO and Saudi Arabia recruit and that he help to enter in Syria..through the Turkey border.  Is Erdogan the one who helped terrorism to grow and become stronger ..and he is now facing the backlash because Americans were also supporting not only  Anti Assad militants.. but also ANti ERdogan too..  AMericans use Kurds to blackmail Erdogan ,so he is more loyal to US interest in the world. So Erdogan created Turkey problems today of security ,for aiding Terrorism for so many years in Syria..
he never taught Americans will be also aiding Kurds too ,so they could have a card to play against Turkey too.. in the form of "freedom fighters."

OMG what a shitload of crap.

Could someone give this troll a ban?

I told here hunderd times that the Turkey-ISIS-OIL-trucks story was a bullshit CIA story from Washington before the coup, later the CIA apologized briefly for it. Russia used pictures and radarfootage of KRG-oiltrucks who took oil from N.Iraq to South Turkey and after Erdogan's apoligize, even Russia Today dont use those bullshit articles and baseless story anymore.

ISIS is a CIA-tool and the CIA organized the coup to kill Erdogan. So its not logic for the Sultan to support ISIS. Put this in your brains.

PapaDragon wrote:
A source who attended the fruitless negotiations between Damascus and PYD months ago told me that Russia suggested that YPG hand over all the areas around Afrin to SAA while keeping the city and district around it, under its control, PYD refused and Damascus\Russia were furious

Since October 2017, the Syrian Military intelligence and Russia told the PYD that the possibility of a Turkish attack is 100%, there is officers who didn't sleep for weeks trying to talk sense into PYD , they were usually met with laughs or lectures about Ocalan and Kubani

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/955425132155109377

i have very little sympathy for Kurds they were equally guilty of the genocide of 2 million Armenians ... just like i have little sympathy for my country men for taking the Queens shilling whilst doing whitehall's dirty work of subjugating entire continents for empire


Russia and the SAA ... gave them a way out and they threw it in their faces

They could live peace in Turkey or Syria with the same civil rights as any other citizen, but instead they listen to US Zionist lawmakers and become seperatists.

Stop crying then!

O Kurdoboy, Kurdoboy, what you gonna do when the Turks come for you?


Today, a big funeral in Afrin:






Two YPG-rats captured by Turkish Army






YPG Social Media Guy killed at 23 januari at Kestel-Birseya





These two publicityhorny YPG-rats also killed





YPG Child-soldier, unfortunately killed





ID's of killed YPG-rats around Bulbul





A whole blockchain of dead Kurdo-yanks

Godric wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
A source who attended the fruitless negotiations between Damascus and PYD months ago told me that Russia suggested that YPG hand over all the areas around Afrin to SAA while keeping the city and district around it, under its control, PYD refused and Damascus\Russia were furious

Since October 2017, the Syrian Military intelligence and Russia told the PYD that the possibility of a Turkish attack is 100%, there is officers who didn't sleep for weeks trying to talk sense into PYD , they were usually met with laughs or lectures about Ocalan and Kubani

https://twitter.com/WithinSyriaBlog/status/955425132155109377

i have very little sympathy for Kurds they were equally guilty of the genocide of 2 million Armenians ... just like i have little sympathy for my country men for taking the Queens shilling whilst doing whitehall's dirty work of subjugating entire continents for empire


Russia and the SAA ... gave them a way out and they threw it in their faces

You Scots have plenty of blood on your hands from the North America, Australia, New Zealand, and elsewhere.


With regard to the Armenian lies you can read here:

http://www.tallarmeniantale.com

Looks like the YPG beat back most of the Turkish-TFSA incursion today from the north, recapturing Shaykh Khurus, Baliya, and Kurni.

Current situation on militarymaps.info



And according to syriancivilwarmap.com

So Putin and Russia military was lying when accused ERdogan of having a multimillionaire buisiness stealing oil from Syria with ISIS ?   and Iranian government and general military also lying?  and a fanatic fanboy or Erdopig is telling the truth ?

Putin tells Erdogan to stop Aiding ISIS in Syria..




Putin exposed ERdogan in the second day of G20 meeting in TUrkey ,with Sattelite maps of RUssia intelligence ,show hundred km lines of trucks that goes from RAQQA that ISIS controlled and then delivering major cargo from there in major transportation trucks.. perhaps it was ERdogan humanitarian mission to ISIS?  

This is not fake new.. but facts.. Even ERdogan was angry of Putin Accusations.. did you forgot that?

Vladimir Putin Exposes G20 ISIS Backers

So Putin was lying??      
Thousands of Oil trucks /cargo trucks driving from Turkey to Raqqa.. and from Raqqa to Turkey ,non
stop for many days/weeks and Erdogan never knew that its military was doing business with ISIS ?

This accusation of Putin ,that embarrased Erdogan. in front of the world,. was what triggered Erdogan hostility
short time later.. when attacked Russian bomber planes because it crossed for a few seconds into Turkey airspace.
Fanboys of Erdopig will always defend that criminal no matter the evidence you show about him..

But reality is he played a major destructive role in Syria ,with his aid to terrorism to all terror groups there.

Because Turkey people don't have free media , since he closed any press that opposed to him..is all controlled by ERdogan the dictator... so Turkey citizens are brainwashed into thinking his leader Erdogan have nothing to do with the terrorism and security problems that now Turkey face.  But it was ERdogan who played the major key role
in the terrorism in Syria..  and ERdogan by helping NATO major powers And Saudi Arabia war against Syria...
it strengtened not only ISIS and other terrorist groups... supported by ERdogan allies.. but also helped Kurds
to grow as a major military force.. ERdogan is now fighting the consequences of his criminal policies against
Syria .  Because if he never allowed Turkey to be used as a safe zone for ISIS and Alqaeda and FSA , then this
Syria war will have never happened. to the dimensions it is today. The Syrian army then will have never lost any territory to the kurds and will have been easy for Syria government to fight ,since its northern border will be secured.
But ERdogan illegal proxy war against Syria is what made the Kurds stronger...  if it was not by RUssia interference..
ISIS ,FSA and Alqaeda alnusra will have long ago over Run all Syria territory.. So ERdogan is a war criminal.. as much as Obama and Saudi and Qatar Kings ... and his time will come to face Justice.. he will not last forever in Power , since
he annoyed not only adversaries but also his allies too.. Neither Europe ,Neither US , Neither Russia or IRAN likes
Erdogan ,what he did to Syria.. and the time will come , for him to be held accounted to justice.
The future of ERdogan will be the same of Saddam Husseing.. hanged ...  And very likely Americans will do it..
SInce ERdogan have no chance to hold power for long ,with so many enemies on his own country and outside of Turkey too.  And then NATO major power will blame Erdogan for all the lethal weapons that ISIS and Alqaeda and FSA terrorist got.

You guys can stop flooding the thread with mutual accusations....we all know that Turkey is a important Nato member and was wholeheartedly supporting the enemies of the Syrian Government.

It all boils down to this....since the attempted coup in Turkey, things have changed and Russia is trying to get Turkey to join the Russo-Chinese camp. If they succeed, it will be to put it mildly, a political earthquake.

I'm a bit sceptical as it might be a bit early for such a move

Cyberspec wrote:You guys can stop flooding the thread with mutual accusations....we all know that Turkey is a important Nato member and was wholeheartedly supporting the enemies of the Syrian Government.

It all boils down to this....since the attempted coup in Turkey, things have changed and Russia is trying to get Turkey to join the Russo-Chinese camp. If they succeed, it will be to put it mildly, a political earthquake.

I'm a bit sceptical as it might be a bit early for such a move

The page begins with 7/8 (except godric) comments of the worst pro-Turkish bullshit and you are disturbed by a single comment of Vann?

Russia try, we all know it, and what does Turkey? to invade Syria against the opinion of Syria, Russia and Iran.

eehnie wrote:The page begins with 7/8 (except godric) comments of the worst pro-Turkish bullshit and you are disturbed by a single comment of Vann?

I'm not " disturbed" by anyone...just hoping people tone down the name calling

Russia try, we all know it, and what does Turkey? to invade Syria against the opinion of Syria, Russia and Iran

You realise the Kurds are a proxy of Israel ...how does that fact factor into your calculations

eehnie wrote:

The page begins with 7/8 (except godric) comments of the worst pro-Turkish bullshit and you are disturbed by a single comment of Vann?
.

Altough Vann's comments in this section usually hurt my eyes, i do agree with this. I have no interest in seeing social media printscreens of dead Kurds and a bunch of immature pro Turkish BS song lyrics.
I would ask certain users to please be more selective in what they post, and more mature about how they post it. I dont like using the block option, because i believe most people can actually contribute good stuff here, but if i see one more "O Kurdo Boy", it will be stronger then myself.

On the topic of the Turkish onslaught into Afrin.... where is it?

Vann7 wrote:So Putin and Russia military was lying when accused ERdogan of having a multimillionaire buisiness stealing oil from Syria with ISIS ?   and Iranian government and general military also lying?  and a fanatic fanboy or Erdopig is telling the truth ?

Putin tells Erdogan to stop Aiding ISIS in Syria..  

No, the radar images and photo's were correct but your ''facts'' are false.

Those images and photos were from KRG-oiltrucks transported to Turkey.


UPDATE: 13 dead on Turkish side (3 Turkish soldiers + 11 FSA-rebels). And almost 300 dead on YPG side.

But according to PKK-media there are 1500 Turkish dead soldiers and 58 tanks destroyed and 77 planes shot down.



Turkey says 14 killed, 130 wounded in operation in Syria's Afrin

ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkey’s health minister said on Friday that 14 Turkish soldiers and Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebels were killed and another 130 people were wounded following Turkey’s incursion into Syria’s Afrin region.

Speaking to reporters after visiting wounded soldiers in hospitals, Ahmet Demircan said three Turkish soldiers and 11 fighters from Turkey-backed FSA factions have been killed so far in clashes in northern Syria.

He said 130 people had been brought to Turkish hospitals and that 82 of them had been released after receiving treatment. None of the wounded were in critical condition, he said, adding that additional medical personnel were sent to the area.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey/turkey-says-14-killed-130-wounded-in-operation-in-syrias-afrin-idUSKBN1FF0TX?rpc=401&

zorobabel wrote:Looks like the YPG beat back most of the Turkish-TFSA incursion today from the north, recapturing Shaykh Khurus, Baliya, and Kurni.

From listening to Mete Yarar (defence analyst with field experience) opting to go via Afrin valley would be dangerous as it is a Atgm zone, so we have started in with smaller units in pockets in the mountains which are 800 meters plus and bad wheather conditions, hence slow operation.

So far it seems that project independent Kurdistan , is more than a Yank project . The English are jumping on the bandwagon now , committing all of their four or five infantry in Syria against the Turks ! And they are not even threatening their vast infantry forces with ASBO's on return to UK . Like they did to ISIS fighters on their return to UK ! A pathetic response . Likewise the Germans have a pathetic response , not selling Tanks ! A comment for internal consumption ? A lot of kurds in Germany ? The most pathetic response is from yanks . " Turkey has legitimate interests in Syria .." but please don't kill our troops !

Turkey is good and strong . Against the Kurds , it needs to demand that all armed groups in Syria disarm , disband and disperse . Against the yanks , surround and encircle their bases . Stop all military movement . Only food allowed in . They will all return alive to USA !

nomadski wrote:
So far it seems that project independent Kurdistan , is more than a Yank project . The English are jumping on the bandwagon now , committing all of their four or five infantry in Syria against the Turks ! And they are not even threatening their vast infantry forces with ASBO's on return to UK . Like they did to ISIS fighters on their return to UK ! A pathetic response . Likewise the Germans have a pathetic response , not selling Tanks ! A comment for internal consumption ? A lot of kurds in Germany ? The most pathetic response is from yanks . " Turkey has legitimate interests in Syria .." but please don't kill our troops !

Turkey is good and strong . Against the Kurds , it needs to demand that all armed  groups in Syria disarm , disband and disperse . Against the yanks , surround and encircle their bases . Stop all military movement . Only food allowed in . They will all return alive to USA !

Only 3 countries are supporting Operation Olive Branch (Russia, Pakistan, Azerbaijan). The rest of the Western World are against it and will do anything to sabotate it.

However, Turkey is determined to accomplish this operation and will not step back, it seems.

If Erdogan is not talking bullshit, than his words implied that the whole border will be cleansed from Rojava-terrorists.

There are reports that 2 US servicemen are killed thanks to TAF bombings neer Manbij. I dont know if this is true.

Turkey's Afrin Operation Shows Support, Allowing Locals to Return Home

Published January 26th, 2018 - 12:34 GMT via SyndiGate.info

Hussein Bilal Sayyidu,

Turkish military is continuing to eliminate terrorists under the ongoing Operation Olive Branch in Syria's northwestern region of Afrin. Turkish soldiers have provided food aid to locals after clearing terrorists from Afrin's Adama village. Miliary doctors also conducted medical screening of locals there who were returning to their homes.

The commander of the Turkish forces, who met the locals in the village, said: "We are here for you. You are entrusted to us. As Turkish Armed Forces, we will protect you here until the end."

Turkey on Saturday launched Operation Olive Branch to remove PYD/PKK and ISIS forces from Afrin.

According to the Turkish General Staff, the operation aims to establish security and stability along Turkish borders and the region as well as to protect the Syrian people from the oppression and cruelty of terrorists.

The operation is being carried out under the framework of Turkey’s rights based on international law, UN Security Council’s decisions, self-defense rights under the UN charter and respect for Syria's territorial integrity. Afrin has been a major hideout for the PYD/PKK since July 2012 when the Assad regime in Syria left the city to the terror group without putting up a fight.

The Free Syrian Army also took part in the operation to clear Adama village of terrorists. In the intense clashes at the village, almost three kilometers away from Turkish border, five FSA soldiers were injured while 30 PYD/PKK individuals were neutralized.

Turkish authorities often use the word "neutralized" in their statements to imply that the forces in question either surrendered or were killed or captured.

A local from the village, Hussein Bilal Sayyidu, 70, expressed gratitude to the Turkish forces, saying they had been forced to flee their homes due to the terror. "We heard Turkey had arrived... I was joyous and immediately returned home. We are very glad. They are providing everything to us," Sayyidu added.

The commander of the Turkish forces on the ground, who wished to remain anonymous, told the villagers: "Let us know if you have any problems, or needs such as food, medicine, or clothing."

https://www.albawaba.com/news/turkeys-afrin-operation-shows-support-allowing-locals-return-home-1079990

The Ottoman wrote:Only 3 countries are supporting Operation Olive Branch (Russia, Pakistan, Azerbaijan). The rest of the Western World are against it and will do anything to sabotate it.

This is absolutely false.

AfrinOp: Nawal Zilan is the first female fighter (YPJ) killed since OliveBranch Offensive started. Killed by Rebels in a failed attak on Qalaat Seeman front.



She was 17 years old. Daughter of a YPG commander.


Kurds acknowledge 8 dead from Woman's Protection Units(YPJ)



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Stop with all the dead bodies photos(not really but do not post them in future). Link with 18+ is fine, if it is something really "informative". Like dead turkish soldiers or dead commanders(both sides) or something like that. But with 18+ please.
Some Turks on twitter really like to post those in replies to anything that they do not like. Favorite photos for them are the ones of dead woman fighters.


I don't want to look at that stuff here.

eehnie wrote:

The Ottoman wrote:Only 3 countries are supporting Operation Olive Branch (Russia, Pakistan, Azerbaijan). The rest of the Western World are against it and will do anything to sabotate it.

This is absolutely false.

I think you must take your medication.

Azerbaijan backs Turkey’s operation in Syria’s Afrin

Fight against terror is needed to attain international, regional peace, says Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry’s spokesman

http://aa.com.tr/en/turkey/azerbaijan-backs-turkey-s-operation-in-syria-s-afrin/1037984

Pakistani students pray for Turkey's victory in Syria

Special prayer session for Operation Olive Branch held at University in Lahore

http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/pakistani-students-pray-for-turkeys-victory-in-syria/1040547

Qatar supports Turkey's efforts in Afrin operation

'Turkey has always been a stabilizing factor in the region'

http://aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/qatar-supports-turkeys-efforts-in-afrin-operation/1039321

Russia sides with Turkey, blames US for assault on Afrin

WASHINGTON DC, United States (Kurdistan 24) – Russia’s Defense Ministry issued a statement Saturday holding the US responsible for Turkey’s assault on Afrin while justifying Ankara’s attack on the Kurdish canton in western Syria.

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/b5227d4c-f963-4929-af7d-8b96661089d8

calm wrote:AfrinOp: Nawal Zilan is the first female fighter (YPJ) killed since OliveBranch Offensive started. Killed by Rebels in a failed attak on Qalaat Seeman front.

The YPG/PKK/KurdoYanks uses child-soldiers and they give females weapons and they push tehm to fight. And when they die, the Turks get the blame for killing civillians.

4th Mechanized Division got a new commander. Guess who he is?

Weather conditions are normal now, no more dust

Cyberspec wrote:

eehnie wrote:The page begins with 7/8 (except godric) comments of the worst pro-Turkish bullshit and you are disturbed by a single comment of Vann?

I'm not " disturbed" by anyone...just hoping people tone down the name calling

Russia try, we all know it, and what does Turkey? to invade Syria against the opinion of Syria, Russia and Iran

You realise the Kurds are a proxy of Israel  ...how does that fact factor into your calculations

He cant. Because a double agent has no calculations.

Only response you will get from eehnie guy is "it is fake, it is bullshit, it is bla bla"

No real answer came to my YPG versus ENKS post yet.

And it will not come. I know...