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    Syrian War: News #16

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:57 am

    Militarov wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:The function of that map was not to show an up to date position or the legal boundaries of Syria, it was to indicate the areas that ISIS is still believed to be in.

    Stop explaining yourself to these people seriously. Fanboys need to pick something to fight over because arguments of any kind are unavailable. Post count needs to be built up on something.
    Bugger, not that we are in a race or anything but, just noticed your post count is higher than me again. Very Happy Better pick a fight or two Laughing Laughing
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    Post  Airman Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:15 pm

    #AfrinOp: enormous quantity of weapons for #YPG intercepted by Zinki on its way to #Afrin region. It includes many #ATGMs: #Fagot & #Metis-M (pictured) but also #Konkurs.
    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/960125679294713857

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    Post  Guest Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:30 pm

    Airman wrote:
    #AfrinOp: enormous quantity of weapons for #YPG intercepted by Zinki on its way to #Afrin region. It includes many #ATGMs: #Fagot & #Metis-M (pictured) but also #Konkurs.
    https://twitter.com/QalaatAlMudiq/status/960125679294713857

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    To me sounds more like weapon shipment that was ment for Zinki in a first place but they just use it as tool to score points with Turks.
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    Post  Vann7 Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:20 pm

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    calm wrote:Turkish Al Qaeda and ISIS dogs. Those are a NATO state partners in war...

    Watch at your own discretion Erdogan's jihadists stripping female YPJ fighter's mutilated body. Stepping on it... who knows what else.
    These fighters are backed by a @NATO ARMY!
    https://twitter.com/mustefaebdi/status/959097481249378304


    What a video this....Turkish backed Syrian rebels outside Afrin, singing a jihadi song about "how we were steadfast in Grozny & Dagestan. And we took Tora Bora. And now Afrin is calling for us."
    https://twitter.com/jenanmoussa/status/959090266056679424

    Hope this will be every bit the PR disaster for Erdogan it deserves to be.

    I find funny that the Turkish forum members , come here to complain about Kurds propaganda.. but says nothing
    about ERdogan Bullshit Propaganda.. Turkey is a dictatorship without any Freedom of Press , he had to close
    any media ,that spoke negatively against Erdogan.. and i want to remind our Turkey friends.. comming
    here for Public relations to Erdogan.. that Russia top general staff and Putin himself exposed Erdopig major
    alliance not only with ISIS but with Alnusra (Alqaeda) in IDLIB too..  So i really want to advice for our
    Turkey friends.. to pay more attention to  www.RT.COM  and www.PressTV.com..  that is Russian Goverment
    and Iranian Government , financed media.... that still today hint in majority of their reports that Turkey is in bed
    with International terrorism. and RT ,have provided solid evidence not one ,not two but dozens of times ,that the Rebels that Erdogan and US support in Aleppo and IDLIB are Alnusra Alqaeda.  

    The rebels who attacked Russian base ,came from the
    Erdopig backed rebels.. So please .. my message to all Turkey fanboys of that Murderous Criminal Erdogan..
    Stop pointing fingers at Kurds. you country , your Leader is the top criminal , the top terrorist of all..

    Kurds fight for politics.. for their independence.. because they have been brainwashed by Americans with $$ money
    to push in that direction.. so while is a mistake what they doing (kurdistan will never work ,when is encircled by all sides by major opposition to them) ,and will neither work ,without US and Europe sustaining their economy) at the same time is not terrorism to fight for your independence.. is not terrorism to fight for equal rights.. and Kurds in Syria ,they are not Radical Sectarian Jihadist like ISIS or Alqaeda that Erdopig support ,that kills just for hate to other religions. that are only fighting for 70 virgins in heaven and for imposing their fake God and Fake Religion into all Syrians by force.

    If it wans't by ERdogan criminal policy of declaring war against Syria with its actions ,a nation that have done nothing to Turkey..and allowing NATO to use their country as a safe base for all terrorist in the world to enter in Syria to fight.. then none of this Kurdish problem ,growing power will have surfaced.. So i Repeat.. ERdogan helped US-Saudi Arabia and Israel to weaken Syrian Army and this not only strenghtened ISIS and ALqaeda in syria from 2011 to 2015.. but also significantly helped Kurds in Syria too ,because if you weaken the Syrian army..then Kurds will become stronger..   So You people of Turkey.. WHo support Erdogan.. it is you with your support to that ERdogan Criminal ,the reason ,there is war in the middle east and your country in an illegal invasion against another country. Had Erdogan refused to participate in the Syrian war..and refused to allow NATO to use its territory to infiltrate thousands and thousands of Islamic sectarian jihadist to over Run Syria.. then none of this conflict in Syria will have happened..ISIS will have never grow as it did.. and Kurds will have never captured any territory anywhere in Syria or IRAQ,and Turkey will not be at risk for the increasing power of the Kurds.   Don't confuse extreme Putin pragmatism.. He is only using Russian Business and economic aid through trade , only to make Erdogan distance as much as possible from ISIS and Alqaeda. and have only managed to get Erdogan limit his territorial ambitions ,to the zones it now controls. Instead of over running all Syria.

    So Putin is simply being pragmatic.. He knows Erdogan was in collusion with ISIS and still aiding Alnusra Alqaeda.
    But Putin prefer to try ,with business .because if he doesn't find a common ground with Erdogan.. then Russia eventually will have to fight Turkey in a full scale war ,which is what Americans will want to see.  So For Russia is not
    convenient to start a war now with Turkey ,with Americans backing Turkey with logistics and weapons. It will be very expensive for Russia economy such war.. so Putin is being only extremely pragmatic.. Putin only goals is to influence
    Erdogan through Business and diplomacy , but make no mistake.. Putin will love to fire a cruise missile onto your President head... because he is a murderous criminal with his entire family ,and have been key player in the genocide that ISIS and Alqaeda have been doing against civilians in Syria. Eventually Erdogan will be removed.. because he is still provoking a war annoying not only  Russia, Syria and IRAN.. but is also annoying Americans and NATO too.. and now Greece.. So Is highly unlikely Erdopig will survive while annoying so many people ,even inside his own military and Government.  My Prediction is the kill shot on erdogan head will come from the Americans . He will be replaced ,sooner or later.. because Erdogan have no chance to rule in Turkey as a dictator forever.. while being at war with all its neighbors.. even Hitler as charismatic he was ,had attemps to his life.. by his own military generals ,never forget that.

    So Erdogan is not a friend of Putin.. neither Turkey a friend of Russia. They only trying luck with diplomacy in order
    to not have to nuke Turkey army in Syria and have to launch cruise missiles at Erdogan head. and  Russia diplomacy
    worked. Russia is gaining time..  and the more Syria conflict is frozen ,the worse will be for the terrorist that Erdogan and Americans support. Because cause a lot of money to maintain supplying weapons to terrorist in Syria and cost a lot of money too ,to have an army in a foreign country. Erdogan will be facing a vietnam in Syria ,and eventually people with real values and morals ,will eventually remove Erdogan by force from power. This is because Erdogan illegal policies in Syria and IRAQ , have no future.. it will face an endless resistance since IRAN ,Russia will continue backing Syria. and they will never stop fighting to kick all Turkey forces and NATO from their territory.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:03 pm

    New map from Peto, looks like the SAA are pushing out beyond Abu Al-Duhur and advancing on Saraquib along a broad front. attack

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    I love the smell of burnt goat-fucker in the morning, almost as pleasing as the sweet tang of Wahabbi despair!  Twisted Evil

    Edit:  I was a bit premature methinks...  Looks like the SAA is shifting forces to erase the IS cauldron before pushing agaist saraquib.

    On February 4, a commander of the Tiger Forces confirmed that the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) and the Tiger Forces had halted their military operations in Idlib governorate. Syrian pro-government sources said that the Tiger Forces will build a strong defensive line west of the town of Abu Duhur and then began a wide-scale military operation against ISIS in the northeastern Hama countryside.

    https://southfront.org/syrian-army-temporairly-halts-operations-in-idlib-intensifies-efforts-against-isis-in-northeastern-hama-map/

    Oh well, as long as we are shoveling dead Jihadis into the dirt, I'm happy!


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    Post  ultimatewarrior Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:17 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:New map from Peto, looks like the SAA are pushing out beyond Abu Al-Duhur and advancing on Saraquib along a front front. attack

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    First, they need to get the Abu Duhur airbase up and running to provide CAS. The distance from the Abu Duhur airbase to Idlib city is not even 50 km. That means, less flight time, more load, more sorties.
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    Post  par far Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:06 am

    After reading this article, I have no idea what to think(I thought that Turkey was in Afrin because it had a deal with Russia but this states something else.) Can it be that Turkey is playing Russia.

    “Turkey Establishing Long-Sought US “Safe Haven” in Northern Syria.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/turkey-establishing-long-sought-us-safe-haven-in-northern-syria/5628249

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:34 am

    They will not set up an airbase that close to rebel lines, unless they want it to get bombed
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    Post  ultimatewarrior Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:17 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:They will not set up an airbase that close to rebel lines, unless they want it to get bombed

    They can station Forpost UAV there. Forpost can fly around designating targets for 152 mm Krasnopol. 1 shot 1 kill from 20 km behind front lines. Much safer than having pilots flying around over enemy territory.
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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:07 pm

    There are reports from idleb white helmets that russian and SAA attacks smell weired. They say its a chemical attack again.

    2 days ago Washington said something similar that SAA could have used chemical weapons again but they had not proves yet.

    No source here but you can found it probably on the news.
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:21 pm

    Isos wrote:There are reports from idleb white helmets that russian and SAA attacks smell weired. They say its a chemical attack again.

    2 days ago Washington said something similar that SAA could have used chemical weapons again but they had not proves yet.

    No source here but you can found it probably on the news.

    It's false.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:52 pm

    Isos wrote:There are reports from idleb white helmets that russian and SAA attacks smell weired. They say its a chemical attack again.
    .....................

    Any place where white helmets are present smells weird but it's mostly due to presence of white helmets.

    When you don't flush the turd it will stink up the toilet....
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:27 pm


    SAA & Allies liberated Buyud Saffaf, Abu al Kheir, Wadi Jahannam, Dhabi`iyah from #ISIS terrorists in north east of #Hama pockect.. advances continue ..

    https://twitter.com/A7_Mirza/status/960502157987459074

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:24 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Isos wrote:There are reports from idleb white helmets that russian and SAA attacks smell weired. They say its a chemical attack again.

    2 days ago Washington said something similar that SAA could have used chemical weapons again but they had not proves yet.

    No source here but you can found it probably on the news.

    It's false.
    Totally.

    Strange that the white helmets are confusing the beautiful perfumed aroma of the SAA and Russians with chlorine. Especially given their own pong.

    Even if chlorine was in use it would be diluted and purely as a disinfectant given that the SAA is now up against hardcore HAZMAT terrorist units.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:35 pm

    They finally got there


    Ali Özkök
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    Breaking: A huge #Turkish army convoi of about 100 military vehicles reached the strategic hill of Al Eis in southern #Aleppo province to establish an observation position.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:46 pm


    Strategic News
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    Current situation near #Afrin. The progress of #FSA and #Turkey remains slow. Involved inefficiency of rebel factions. Moreover, #Erdogan can not take the risk of committing more life of the Turkish soldier as the general elections draw near (2019). #Syria



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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:49 pm

    Excerpt from a longer article at link

    WASHINGTON ― The Trump administration is doubling down on a lie the U.S. government has promoted since it first began cooperating with the Syrian Kurds against the Islamic State group in 2014: that the Kurds it is working with in Syria differ from those that are anathema to NATO ally Turkey.

    American officials designed that fiction to enable the anti-ISIS strategy adopted under President Barack Obama and continued under President Donald Trump. Now it’s taking its most serious toll yet: Turkey is bombarding Afrin, a Kurdish enclave in northwest Syria, with airstrikes and artillery fire and the U.S. is refusing responsibility. Extending the Obama-era logic, team Trump maintains that Afrin is totally distinct from the Kurdish regions in Syria’s northeast that are home to American bases and thousands of U.S. troops.

    Dozens of civilians have died in the campaign’s initial assault on smaller villages around the main city. Over a million more are at risk, as are Turkish civilians facing rockets in response. And Trump’s choice has boosted bitterness toward the U.S. among Washington’s most effective partners in Syria. In the weeks ahead, it could torpedo U.S.-brokered cooperation between Kurds and the country’s majority Arab community, tempting more Arabs to join radical groups like the powerful local al Qaeda affiliate or what’s left of ISIS; escalate an already dire humanitarian crisis; and cede more space in Syria to actors Trump is ostensibly committed to challenging ― Russia, Iran and the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad. There’s little clear benefit to the U.S. in return.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/years-of-us-government-lies-could-soon-result-in-a-kurdish-massacre_us_5a75db08e4b01ce33eb32b3a
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    Post  Isos Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:14 pm

    JohninMK wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Isos wrote:There are reports from idleb white helmets that russian and SAA attacks smell weired. They say its a chemical attack again.

    2 days ago Washington said something similar that SAA could have used chemical weapons again but they had not proves yet.

    No source here but you can found it probably on the news.

    It's false.
    Totally.

    Strange that the white helmets are confusing the beautiful perfumed aroma of the SAA and Russians with chlorine. Especially given their own pong.

    Even if chlorine was in use it would be diluted and purely as a disinfectant given that the SAA is now up against hardcore HAZMAT terrorist units.

    US could use this as a pretext for another strike like last time. They are out of the game since russia and turkey get closer and they don't know what to do for the Turkey/Kurd war, just like they were out of the game before the strike on Syrian air base.

    They can think that another strike could destroy the alliance by pushing Russia and SAA to Attack turkish partners in the north because they would be the ones that US "protected".
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    Post  Big_Gazza Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:31 pm

    ISIS pocket in Hama-Idlib getting the love it deserves.... attack

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:12 pm

    Bit more on the Turkish moves in Idlib, plus another convoy has gone in


    Ivan Sidorenko
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    #Syria #Idlib activist on the newest Turkish Armed Forces convoy that entered Syria today “ Everyone is asking where the convoy went?
    The convoy is currently in Sarmada, this talk is from 45 minutes. What their destination is and why it stopped, no one knows.”




    Ivan Sidorenko
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    #Syria #Idlib #Hama Some Information about the Observation Posts being set up by #Turkey #Turkish Armed Forces & #Russia #Russian Forces around the De Escalation zone #Astana


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    Post  calm Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:02 am

    HUGE!

    YPG forces sent a large number of reinforcements from Menbeij(From Syria and Iraq, gathering point) to the Afrin region yesterday. The YPG reinforcements once again traveled through the government's lines in Aleppo. This was the largest convoy to travel through Aleppo since Operation Olive Branch

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    BREAKING A massive reinforcement convoy with thousands of SDF veterans and foreign volunteers sent to Afrin from Eastern Syria
    https://twitter.com/rofoca_lucifuge/status/960672088603344896
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 am

    Clearly the US has told them to leave their lovely new MRAPs and other overtly US supplied logistics gear at home, or only move them at night!

    Indeed, where are their water/food/ammo supply trucks? That's a large, thirsty and hungry bunch there. Weapons and men win battles, logistics wins wars.
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    Post  calm Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:44 am

    SAA will supply them with that from Aleppo.

    Turkey is blocked from flying over Syria since downing of Russian plane. They had to sit and watch as this convoy move through Afrin.

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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:59 pm


    Looks like someone is signaling Turks that they should be focusing on different set of Kurds, as in East of Euphrates
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