GarryB wrote:Now I get it... you are the Israeli agent... the American stooge...
You want Russia to send its allies old crap so they are easier to beat.
You don't want Russia to make more MiGs and Sukhois because that will make them stronger and offer a cheap capability of upgrading their own fleet and the fleets of their allies with aircraft easily upgraded to 4++ generation at a time when the US is only able to get crappy light 5th gen aircraft.
The time and effort and cost of upgrading a MiG-23 is a total waste of time and money.
Put a new radar on board but what is the point... the best armament you could possibly fit would be four R-77s in total... you could do the same much cheaper and much simpler to an upgraded MiG-21.
The swing wing mechanism on a MiG-23 is complex and requires maintainence and attention.
A MiG-29 can do the same job with 6-8 wing pylons for weapons and would be much SAFER because it has two engines so if one stops then you can still fly home and land.
They were blowing up L39s during their last lot of exercises... how many do you think they have left... they have been using them and they have not been buying them in the last 25 odd years.
If they need light jet trainers in Syria then send SR-10s and some dumbed down simplified cheaper Yak-130s.
Syria can not pay for new aircrafts, you know it, or not? Then you know perfectly that new aircrafts will not be made with Syrian money in some years.
Also you know that you are calling crap to aircrafts that are today in active service in the Russian Armed Forces. Aircrafts that you defend to continue in the Russian Armed Forces otherwise. While the Be-12 and the L-39 are good to continue in the Russian Armed Forces, are not good enough to give to Syria. When there is an option to give them to Syria as help, then these aircrafts become crap.
Obviously you have not problem if the Syrian Air Force receives not help. You say nothing about it. The problem for you begins when you see the option to reinforce the Syrian Air Force with something that is in use in Russia today, and as consequence is useful. Then to avoid to reject the help, you are promoting something that you know that will not happen.
You know perfectly that Russia will not order new aircrafts with money of its own treasure to give them to Syria. Russia can not do, and will not do it because it weakens the own defense. If Russia increases not its own defense budget, would be giving to Syria the aircrafts to renew their own Airspace Forces. If Russia increases its defense budget, would be weakening other type of assistance to the Russian citizens.
The logical way to help to Syria, as an ally that can not pay for it, is to give them the less modern, less powerfull and less capable armament that gets free in the process of renovation of their own air forces. And in the logical process of renovation and reinforcement of the own Armed Forces, Russia will leave out first the less modern, less powerful and less capable aircrafts. First in line, the Be-12 and the L-39.
It requires not a big talent to see that the Be-12 in service in the Russian Armed Forces will be removed fast. Also Russia is replacing their L-39 by Yak-130. Taking this as example, it would be silly for Russia to give to Syria the new Yak-130 that have to replace the L-39, keeping the L-39 only to continue needing to build more Yak-130 to replace them in a few years. To give to Syria new Yak-130 would affect to the Russian defense, delaying the replacement of the L-39.
In the case of the fighters, the situation is not even this, because the new fighters, Su-30, Su-35 are being added to the current fleet, but without a retirement of units of the oldest model, the MiG-23. The units in active service are not being increased, but the number of units in the reserve are being increased. As consequence there are not fighters to give to Syria until the saturation of the reserves.
Obviously it would be better for Syria to receive new Yak-130 or Su-27. But it would be damaging for the Russian defense and the Russian treasury.
It is obvious that Syria received many T-55 and T-62 that need not a rebuild. Obviously they are not in the repair plant, they are in the front lines. Here are the tanks that are not totally complete, but using some as spare parts, Syria gets more T-55 and T-62 combat capable from the Russian help. It is something very logical, and it is a model that can be applied also to the air warfare.
What you see in the Syrian repair plant is not crap, mostly are tanks that need some repair, and many of them will be in the Syrian Armed Forces in the short term.
Obviously, no, I'm not the "Israeli agent... the American stooge..." like you said, because Russia has interest in doing the things this way. And neither is the Russian military people that organized this scheme for the land warfare, because they did it in the interest of Russia and Syria. And the result of doing this is a military success for Syria since the entry of Russia in Syrian territory.