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    Post  UZB-76 Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:42 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:They r pro-Turkish guerillas, not terrorists, just like the Talibs that r not terrorists.
    Why not use Turkey to cut American losses there? She wouldn't mind to be there anyway with US help, to put pressure on China & Iran in C. Asia. Together with her friend Pakistan, hopefully Afghanistan will be prevented from becoming an ISIS or some other terrorist outfit base.
    I really hope that you are not smoking some low quality Afghani Opium
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    Post  franco Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:57 pm

    UZB-76 wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:They r pro-Turkish guerillas, not terrorists, just like the Talibs that r not terrorists.
    Why not use Turkey to cut American losses there? She wouldn't mind to be there anyway with US help, to put pressure on China & Iran in C. Asia. Together with her friend Pakistan, hopefully Afghanistan will be prevented from becoming an ISIS or some other terrorist outfit base.
    I really hope that you are not smoking some low quality Afghani Opium

    He lives on the US - Mexico border so who knows what he is using dunno
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    Post  GarryB Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:50 am

    They r pro-Turkish guerillas, not terrorists, just like the Talibs that r not terrorists.

    They are not guerillas or freedom fighters, they are terrorist scum and my idea to use them in Afghanistan is to use them up... ie get them killed fighting Taleban who I have more respect for... though not a lot more.

    These pro turkish guerillas happily cooperate with ISIS in Syria.... sending them to Afghanistan they would likely buddy up with Al quada and ISIS there too.

    But it saves American lives so the Americans will love the idea, and these nutters are a problem for Turkey because they don't want them in Turkey either... killing them off in Afghanistan solves both their problems... wouldn't be the first time the US has used Pakistan as cannon fodder or vice versa.

    I am sure if the US paid them enough they would be happy to do it.

    The Taleban in Afghanistan are not in power so they will be helping government forces (that the US installed) against an insurgent force (that the US has been fighting for a good part of two decades), so it should not to difficult to sell and get funding though the normal channels.

    hopefully Afghanistan will be prevented from becoming an ISIS or some other terrorist outfit base.

    But that is the main problem... these nutters are just as likely to side with Al quada and ISIS and try to spread the Calphate around a bit, whereas the Taleban didn't venture much beyond their own borders, and they certainly hammered the drugs trade, whereas these terrorists would probably see it as a good quick easy income.

    So on the whole I don't think it is a good idea, though certainly something America would think of because from their perspective it is win win... they don't really care about ISIS and the drug trade effects Russia and Iran so that is a good side effect as far as they are concerned.

    Introducing Syrian terrorists would be a cure worse than the disease.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:09 am

    UZB-76 wrote:I really hope that you are not smoking some low quality Afghani Opium

    The guy is a certified mental-midget. There's been countless videos from the Turkish backed murder-hobos that display beheadings of civilians, there's been videos of the Free Syrian Terrorists caging women and children and drowning them in water, there was another video of the FSA beheading a terminally ill child that they dragged from a hospital bed, another were they sawed the head off a Christian priest, and there was another video of FSA vermin ripping a heart out a dead soldier and publicly eating it.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:13 am

    These pro turkish guerillas happily cooperate with ISIS in Syria.... sending them to Afghanistan they would likely buddy up with Al quada and ISIS there too.
    that's why they won't be sent there; the Turkish mil. esp. SOFs already has experience fighting the Kurds in Turkey & Iraq as well as pro-Assad forces & recently Armenians in NK, also some troops were in Afghanistan as part of the NATO force, so this type of mission isn't new for them.
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    Post  lyle6 Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:13 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:They r pro-Turkish guerillas, not terrorists, just like the Talibs that r not terrorists.
    Why not use Turkey to cut American losses there? She wouldn't mind to be there anyway with US help, to put pressure on China & Iran in C. Asia. Together with her friend Pakistan, hopefully Afghanistan will be prevented from becoming an ISIS or some other terrorist outfit base.

    Both are subhuman scum only fit to serve as fertilizer. Satisfied?
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:27 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:They r pro-Turkish guerillas, not terrorists, just like the Talibs that r not terrorists.
    Why not use Turkey to cut American losses there? She wouldn't mind to be there anyway with US help, to put pressure on China & Iran in C. Asia. Together with her friend Pakistan, hopefully Afghanistan will be prevented from becoming an ISIS or some other terrorist outfit base.

    Yes and no.

    A terrorist is a freedom fighter to some and a terrorist to others.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:35 am

    Both are subhuman scum only fit to serve as fertilizer. Satisfied?
    They r no worse than the USMC- Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, aka jarheads/leathernecks bullet stoppers.
    The Americans & Japanese also regarded Philippinos & other Asians as subhuman.
    The Turks closed trade routes to the Orient, gave shelter to Jews, & forced the Europeans to sail & explore the seas; the Pakistanis were smart enough to get nukes before India did. Not bad for "subhumans", isn't it?
    A terrorist is a freedom fighter to some and a terrorist to others.
    our history been written by the victors ever since writing was invented.
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    Post  UZB-76 Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:59 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    They r no worse than the USMC- Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, aka jarheads/leathernecks bullet stoppers.
    I don't think USMC would be that quick in chopping heads and destroying other places of worship..
    Same can't be said for Turks and their jihadist dogs.. not that I am fan of USA.
    Look at Afghanistan, what those jihadist did?

    The Americans & Japanese also regarded Philippinos & other Asians as subhuman.
    Turks also used to have same opinion and they still do.

    The Turks closed trade routes to the Orient, gave shelter to Jews, & forced the Europeans to sail & explore the seas;
    Irrelevant, Turks also were known for raiding, raping, looting and pillaging..
    They do it now also.

    the Pakistanis were smart enough to get nukes before India did. Not bad for "subhumans", isn't it?
    Then, a retard named Zia-ul-Haq took over..

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:13 pm


    I don't think USMC would be that quick in chopping heads and destroying other places of worship..
    they did terrible things in C. America, Vietnam & Iraq.
    Turks also used to have same opinion and they still do.
    I'm not sure it's true: some Asians like Kazaks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Uyghurs, Tartars & Yakuts speak Turkic languages, as well as related European Hungarians.
    Irrelevant, Turks also were known for raiding, raping, looting and pillaging.
    the Crusaders drowned Christian Constantinople in blood, long before the Turks took it. The Ataturk's revolution is what created modern Turkey, & she is becoming a strong regional power on her own right, with some Russian help, to balance other players in the region.
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    Post  UZB-76 Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:14 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:

    they did terrible things in C. America, Vietnam & Iraq.
    Yeah Turks are doing the similar stuff already without access to those exotic materials like DU.

    I'm not sure it's true: some Asians like Kazaks, Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Uyghurs, Tartars & Yakuts speak
    They only see them as future subsidiaries to the ottoman Titanic empire..
    Moreover, Magyar belongs to uralic group of languages and they are more similar finno-ugric group.

    the Crusaders drowned Christian Constantinople in blood, long before the Turks took it. The Ataturk's revolution is what created modern Turkey
    Turks just created more trouble..
    Ataturk's revolution will be killed by erdo for his own ambitions.

    she is becoming a strong regional power on her own right, with some Russian help, to balance other players in the region.
    Turkey is already paying Russians back in Azerbaijan, Syria and, Ukraine..
    Russia supported only to pull Turkey out of NATO..
    This gambit failed and is paying the price for it.
    Russia and Turkey are geopolitical enemies, anyone thinking otherwise, is in delusion.
    I'll leave you here if you want to continue simping for 🦃
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:51 pm

    Turkey will become another Egypt once the Istanbul Canal is built, & that's why, among other things, Russia is against it. But it would be a counterbalance to EU, Georgia, Armenia, Iran, & China that Russia could exploit. She also had 14 wars with Turkey & knows how to deal with her on the battlefield & at sea again.
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    Post  UZB-76 Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:20 pm

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Turkey will become another Egypt once the Istanbul Canal is built, & that's why, among other things, Russia is against it. But it would be a counterbalance to EU, Georgia, Armenia, Iran, & China that Russia could exploit. She also had 14 wars with Turkey & knows how to deal with her on the battlefield & at sea again.
    Doubtful, Russia if anything has been too soft on turkey despite it's machinations and actually seems to want an alliance with it
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    Post  lyle6 Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:40 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    They r no worse than the USMC- Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, aka jarheads/leathernecks bullet stoppers.
    The Americans & Japanese also regarded Philippinos & other Asians as subhuman.
    If you act like a subhuman you are a subhuman. You can't hide behind your race.
    Tsavo Lion wrote:
    The Turks closed trade routes to the Orient, gave shelter to Jews, & forced the Europeans to sail & explore the seas; the Pakistanis were smart enough to get nukes before India did. Not bad for "subhumans", isn't it?
    Yeah and how'd that work out for them? They locked themselves out from exploring the rest of the world while their enemies conquered everything in sight. Fat lot of good it did them.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:57 am

    At its height, the Ottoman Empire stretched from Morocco to Arabian Sea, traded with India & China, & didn't need overseas colonies. The European colonizers fought among themselves until 1945, but Turkey stayed out of WWII, & had the best of both worlds by joining NATO & maintaining good relations with the USSR.
    Her geographic position at the Eurasian crossroads is helping her to expand her influence.
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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:49 am

    A terrorist is a freedom fighter to some and a terrorist to others.

    No sort of Freedom fighter puts all the young women in the village they just captured and tell they they have to become brides of the fighters that took the village to be let out... the ones that don't marry get petrol poured on them and are burned to death.

    I appreciate there are some groups that could be confused as one or the other, but the ones who openly commit serious war crimes makes it pretty clear to everyone who is honest.

    They r no worse than the USMC- Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, aka jarheads/leathernecks bullet stoppers.
    The Americans & Japanese also regarded Philippinos & other Asians as subhuman.

    They had the odd massacre and shot enemy combatants out of hand, but there was no organised sex trafficking and murder of civilians in such a brutal way.

    our history been written by the victors ever since writing was invented.

    Which is why it is preferred to come on two ply soft paper...

    they did terrible things in C. America, Vietnam & Iraq.

    More the CIAs work and the higher ups in the US military... there is a bit of a difference morally pouring petrol on someone in a cage and setting it on fire, to ordering a B-52 bombing raid to level enormous areas of a city, though I agree the scale and results for the US actions are worse.

    Doubtful, Russia if anything has been too soft on turkey despite it's machinations and actually seems to want an alliance with it

    Russia wants good relations with everyone... not to build up a military alliance, but merely to trade and make money...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:55 pm

    Will Turkey Fit into the Great Game in Afghanistan?
    https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3249099.html


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