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    Post  calripson Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:51 pm

    kvs wrote:Yanqui trash talk.   Bring it retards.

    Why is this magic assault only happening in Havana?   If it is some sort of soft warfare, then why is it limited to one useless
    location.   What is special about the US mission in Havana?

    At the very least it would be some Cuban activity and Russia would have nothing to do with it.   But Americunts are such bitch
    whiners.   When they used sound to terrorize Noriega out of the Papal Nuncio that was all fine and legit.

    In all likelihood this is a yanqui ploy to give it pretexts for attacks on Russian and other non-conforming diplomats in the
    future.   The US has attacked foreign diplomats in the past and thinks that such terrorism is a viable tool for its global
    domination ambitions.   It is likely that Chavez was given cancer by the US when he visited New York to attend the UN.
    This is easily done with intense point radiation source emitting gamma photons in a lead container with an aperture.

     

    I do not doubt that Chavez was given terminal cancer: he hinted at this possibility himself long before his diagnosis (attributing it to the Israelis I believe). His cancer was an extremely rare form of cancer in adults - almost always found in young children - pointing not to a gamma radiation source but to genetically engineered stem cells.

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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:56 am

    It is the old story... the US blames other countries for low down underhanded things that it does itself already...

    The worst thing America can accuse Russia of is being like America... don't you love that irony... the worst thing a Russian could be is an American... but it is proven over and over that they are not that low...

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    Post  calripson Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:20 pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/29/hugo-chavez-us-cancer-plot

    Interestingly, I can find no mention of the specific type of cancer using Google although at the time of his death I clearly remember it being classified as a rare childhood cancer with something like 40 adult cases reported in total across the globe in all recorded medical history.

    Looks like the memory board has been wiped clean.

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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:30 pm

    rt.com/russia/541455-zhao-lijian-distorted-democracy/

    China’s foreign ministry has publicly supported of Russia in condemning the US-backed so called ‘Summit for Democracy’ due to take place next month, criticizing it as a distortion of the values Washington claims to champion.

    Diplomatic spokesman Zhao Lijian remarked on Friday that Kremlin press secretary, Dmitry Peskov, was correct in stating earlier this week that Washington “prefers to create new dividing lines, to separate countries into those that – in their opinion – are good, and those that are bad.”

    By doing this, the US “will only instigate ideological confrontation, which is completely a distortion of and affront to democracy,” the Beijing official remarked.

    Zhao blasted what he claimed was the White House’s one-size-fits-all approach to democracy and said that forcing nations to follow the US version “will only… lead them astray.” He remarked that Washington’s attempts to export democracy abroad have been a “fiasco,” citing American intervention in Afghanistan, the “Arab Spring,” and the several “color revolutions” across Eastern Europe.

    He even took aim at the state of domestic American politics, referring to the Capitol riots earlier this year, which, he said, “laid bare the myth of US democracy.”

    “What makes the US, a country with huge democratic deficits, believe that it has the right to be a model, a judge… and to host a so-called ‘Summit for Democracy?’” Zhao asked.

    The broadside from the Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson comes after Peskov slammed the upcoming meeting, which will see heads of state, human rights groups, and businessmen meet via video conference on December 9 and 10. Russia, China and Turkey did not make Washington’s guest list of 110 countries.

    Former Soviet republics Moldova, Georgia, Armenia and Ukraine, however, all received invites. In Kiev, the leader of the largest opposition party in the country’s parliament, Viktor Medvedchuk, is under house arrest facing charges of high treason. Meanwhile in Tbilisi, former president Mikhail Saakashvili is behind bars facing accusations of abuse of office. He as even conducted a self-declared hunger strike in protest over his treatment.

    Beijing voiced opposition to the inclusion of Taiwan in the event, which it views as an inalienable part of its territory under the ‘One China’ policy. The country has often denounced Washington’s close ties with Taipei as interference in its sovereign affairs.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:49 am

    This is interesting; I still don't like the idea of Russia selling weapons to US allies and an deadly enemy such as the  US getting access to such technology:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putins-friend-leads-russian-effort-sell-weapons-us-allies-rcna6599
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    Post  GarryB Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:51 am

    Hahaha... F-35s don't cost 80 million what a joke.

    And Rob Lee... what a cock sucker... who bought T-90AMs before the Russian military got them? Who bought Su-35s or Su-57s before Russia got them?

    Promoting Russia is poor is amusing but fundamentally wrong... the Checkmate is actually a cheap aircraft by any standards... by Russian standards it is cheap... cheap to buy and cheap to operate so if they were really short of money then it would still make sense for them to make this plane because buying them and putting them into service would save them enormous amounts of money... they could have 5 times more aircraft operational and still not be spending as much as a western country operating an F-35 at 90K pounds per flight hour... compared with about 5K dollars per flight hour for the Checkmate.

    The core of that story is that Putin will sell Russia and Russians out for his rich friends... I don't really buy that.

    UAE buying F-35s is all about the UAE buying US protection, but US dollars are going to become worthless as they become the most printed item on the planet, and as the Afghan government found that support can suddenly disappear very quickly and without warning depending on US interests.

    The export model Checkmate will be sufficiently different from the Russian one that it wont matter if the US gets a copy to take home.

    And even if it wasn't... the US has spies everywhere and maintain their lead in most areas by stealing or buying new technology from around the world... so what is new?

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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:39 pm

    Lavrov Says NATO Military Equipment Being Moved to Russian Border
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    Post  Hole Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:31 pm

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    Post  kvs Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:59 pm

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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 04, 2021 1:40 pm

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:49 pm



    Lithuania's lickspittle move vis a vis Taiwan's independence status has produced a blowback.
    China has dropped Lithuania from the trade registry so it cannot ship goods to China and for
    that matter cannot get goods from China either.

    China is already harassed by banking regulations where selling goods to toilets like Lithuania
    becomes a chore on the level of selling rocket parts to Iran. NATzO smarmies thought that
    China would waste time with this chihuahua trying to sort out the Taiwan issue. China has
    shown NATzO that it will not be diverted by chihuahuas.

    China my respekt

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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:03 pm



    The neocons are utterly deluded if they think they can bait Russia into a war using Ukraine. The Russian government
    would not be pushing the harder line against NATzO's aggression if it did not have any idea about the "cunning plan"
    to use Ukraine and did not spend the last 7 years making sure that NATzO does not have this option. Nothing has
    stopped Russia from training and equipping the Donbass armies to a much higher state. We are not talking a
    few banana republic advisors, but actual training, specifically the officers. Russia will also provide EW support to
    the Donbass defenders if Kiev tries to invade.

    Ukria is not going to attack Crimea since nobody will save it from devastating retaliation. Russia does not have to
    invade Ukria in any scenario. It just needs to use remote missile strikes to take out all of its bridges, railway hubs
    and critical infrastructure. Invasion is for colonization and clearly Russia has no desire to take care of this failed
    state. Even its owners in Washington can't be bothered to send it an extra billion dollars, but somehow Russia is
    supposed to take on the full burden. GTFO.

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    Post  franco Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:18 pm

    So this gentlemen has the solution "Beautiful Russia of the Future" in which Russia becomes a good neighbor who does what they are told happily. Had always assumed he was Russian, boy was I wrong No


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    It is, of course, a long-term goal - Beautiful Russia of the Future and all that - but that should be clearly spelled out. The talk about containment, red lines, etc. is really not helpful. 14/

    https://twitter.com/russianforces/status/1467239780685651971
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    Post  kvs Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:34 pm

    franco wrote:So this gentlemen has the solution "Beautiful Russia of the Future" in which Russia becomes a good neighbor who does what they are told happily. Had always assumed he was Russian, boy was I wrong  No


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    It is, of course, a long-term goal - Beautiful Russia of the Future and all that - but that should be clearly spelled out. The talk about containment, red lines, etc. is really not helpful. 14/

    https://twitter.com/russianforces/status/1467239780685651971

    In Russian the word "podvig" means progress or move forward ("dvig" = movement and "po" = over or along).
    There are a lot of such wankers in Russia who should hurry along and move to America or somewhere else
    instead of trying to foist their BS ideology on Russia. Podvig sounds like is living outside of Russia anyway.

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    Post  franco Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:52 pm

    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:So this gentlemen has the solution "Beautiful Russia of the Future" in which Russia becomes a good neighbor who does what they are told happily. Had always assumed he was Russian, boy was I wrong  No


    Pavel Podvig@russianforces
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    It is, of course, a long-term goal - Beautiful Russia of the Future and all that - but that should be clearly spelled out. The talk about containment, red lines, etc. is really not helpful. 14/

    https://twitter.com/russianforces/status/1467239780685651971

    In Russian the word "podvig" means progress or move forward ("dvig" = movement and "po" = over or along).
    There are a lot of such wankers in Russia who should hurry along and move to America or somewhere else
    instead of trying to foist their BS ideology on Russia.   Podvig sounds like is living outside of Russia anyway.


    Geneva and the USA. Probably American with Russian ancestry.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:43 am

    Would post an image of Captain Picard infected with Borg components saying to his still human crew... come on over the water is nice and warm and the food is great... all you have to do is accept your humanity to be replaced with machine components so you can become part of the collective and have peace and democracy and freedom....

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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:10 pm

    Beijing vows to take countermeasures following US boycott of 2022 Olympics

    According to Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zhao Lijian, Beijing expressed its strong discontent and firm protest to the US, and had already submitted an official reprimand

    BEIJING, December 7. /TASS/. China will take decisive measures in the wake of the US diplomatic boycott of the Beijing 2022 Winter Olympics, Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman Zhao Lijian told a briefing on Tuesday.

    "The US actions seriously violate the principle of political neutrality regarding athletics and sports established by the Olympic Charter," he pointed out. "Beijing expresses its strong discontent and firm protest to the US, and has already submitted an official reprimand, in addition, it [Beijing] will take decisive countermeasures," the diplomat stressed.

    He stayed tight-lipped on which measures would be implemented. "The US will pay a price for their erroneous actions, keep an eye out for the information," Zhao Lijian noted.

    The diplomat stressed that the Winter Olympic Games is not "a stage for political shows or schemes." According to him, the US debated sending or not sending officials to the Olympics because of so-called human rights issues in Xinjiang. Zhao Lijian blasted the move, saying it distorted the facts and was nothing more than self-deception. Washington’s political stance won’t garner any support and is doomed to fail. He also stressed that the Beijing 2022 Winter Olympics is a solemn occasion for athletes and sports fans throughout the world, they will be the main actors of this event.

    On Monday, White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki announced that the US had decided to stage a diplomatic boycott of the upcoming Olympics in China. That said, she clarified that this did not apply to the US athletes who can take part in the Games.

    Calls for boycotting the Olympics in Beijing were earlier voiced by politicians from Canada, Norway, and the United States as well as by representatives of about 200 human rights organizations around the globe. The reason behind the demand for the boycott regards China’s alleged mass repressions of ethnic Uyghurs in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region.

    The 24th Winter Olympic Games will run in Beijing from February 4 to 20, 2022, and the Paralympic Games from March 4 to 13.

    https://tass.com/sport/1371827

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    Post  kvs Tue Dec 07, 2021 3:23 pm

    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:So this gentlemen has the solution "Beautiful Russia of the Future" in which Russia becomes a good neighbor who does what they are told happily. Had always assumed he was Russian, boy was I wrong  No


    Pavel Podvig@russianforces
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    It is, of course, a long-term goal - Beautiful Russia of the Future and all that - but that should be clearly spelled out. The talk about containment, red lines, etc. is really not helpful. 14/

    https://twitter.com/russianforces/status/1467239780685651971

    In Russian the word "podvig" means progress or move forward ("dvig" = movement and "po" = over or along).
    There are a lot of such wankers in Russia who should hurry along and move to America or somewhere else
    instead of trying to foist their BS ideology on Russia.   Podvig sounds like is living outside of Russia anyway.


    Geneva and the USA. Probably American with Russian ancestry.  

    His last name sounds contrived to me. I am not aware of "progress" used as a Russian surname. Probably some
    Bolshie lover poser.

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    Post  higurashihougi Tue Dec 07, 2021 4:39 pm

    America: we boycott Chinese Beijing Olympics.

    China: you cannot boycott the event that you are not invited to.  Smile Smile

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    Post  Hole Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:15 pm

    Well, after China invaded Iraq back in 2003 and killed more then 2 million people there in the coming years they deserved nothing else! unshaven Ups. I think I got something wrong here. Wink

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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:31 am



    Excellent point about NATzO bleating over Ukria having a right to join NATzO and for NATzO to install weapons against Russia
    on its soil. Somehow this right did not exist for Cuba in 1962 when the US was basically about to start a nuclear war because
    of Soviet missiles. BTW, the US installed nuclear missiles in Turkey first. NATzO and its owner, the USA, are total bloody
    hypocrites.

    Russia has a right to destroy Ukria if Ukria participates in military activity that is designed to destroy Russia. NATzO can
    call it defensive all it wants. NATzO has zero credibility due to decades of lying. Recall the lies about the missile complexes
    in eastern Europe being aimed at Iran.

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    Post  kvs Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:43 pm



    Nice video pouring scorn on the threats of sanctions coming out of Washington. The latest US blowhard "nuclear option"
    is to cut Russia off from SWIFT. Go ahead and shoot yourselves in the foot, again, clowns. The only thing that cutting
    Russia off from SWIFT would achieve is to demonstrate to the world that the western finance system is politically corrupt
    and can be used for blackmail at any time.

    For now we have a phase transition barrier effect holding the status quo. If Russia is forced to engage its own SWIFT version,
    then its important role in the global economy (which the GDP size does not measure) will create a nucleation effect where
    countries adopt the alternative system. China will sign up for sure. So we have a phase transition cascade and the west
    is left with a major loss from its moronic posturing.


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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:59 pm

    Would be funny to watch how western countries pay for the stuff they buy in Russia (like gas, oil, fertilizer, titanium...). In the end Germany, Italy and so on would be forced to join the russian system. Or pay in cash/with gold. Very Happy

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    Post  ALAMO Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:57 pm

    Hole wrote:Would be funny to watch how western countries pay for the stuff they buy in Russia (like gas, oil, fertilizer, titanium...). In the end Germany, Italy and so on would be forced to join the russian system. Or pay in cash/with gold. Very Happy

    You will just send trains with gold, and we will steal it, just like the Ukraine steals gas/oil Laughing
    As soon as you will retrieve your gold from US, of course Laughing And the real one, not the painted wolfram they delivered to the Chinese Laughing Laughing Laughing
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    Post  LMFS Mon Dec 13, 2021 12:22 am

    Interesting analysis integrating many facts past and present of geopolitics and finance, worth reading:

    https://thesaker.is/why-russia-didnt-shoot-anything-down-yet/

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