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    Post  GarryB Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:53 am

    They have done this plenty of times while Trump was in charge... the novachok bullshit, the WADA bullshit... what ever they do Putin can simply get his little black book of things he wants to do to hurt the west but is just too damn nice a guy to do so... when they impose sanctions he can pick from his list to retaliate...

    They banned food imports from the EU and had the entire Crimean penninsula returned to them over these harsh western attacks supposed to cripple them and make them bend over...

    Hasn't worked yet but I am sure a new round of sanctions will finally make it happen... right?

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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:25 pm

    We will have history repeating as a farce. Bidet is trying to follow in the footsteps of Hitler (yes really) and will only succeed
    in stepping on his own rake. Compered to 1940, the USA is a soft, rotten "threat to itself" and Russia is on a whole other plane
    than the USSR. NATzO tanks will not be rolling into the Russian heartland. They will not even be able to cross a few kilometers
    inside Russia's borders. The only war option Bidet has is a nuclear attack and that, today, is guaranteed suicide for Uncle Swine-shit.

    Dreams of regime change in Russia should have stopped after 2011. But retards will keep trying the same trick over and over
    hoping for success.

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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:52 pm

    Ahahahaha.

    Anyway, it will be met with nothing. Their rhetorics against Turkey was same.

    Anyway, what? Ban Russia from swift? They have an alternative. They sanctioned Russia to high heaven already.  Attack Russia via cyber attack? Go ahead. Won't do shit.  Just force Russia to spend more on new Russian computer hardware.  Physical attacks? Two can play that game.  Russia can fight back.  Get Ukraine to attack? That will be death wish for Ukraine

    Russia made it clear to them a dozen times not to make things worst. They don't listen.

    America don't want even go after Iran. What makes you guys think they will go after a far more advanced and military strength nuclear armed Russia?

    If they try, at least NATO will step back cause they know they are fucked so US is on its own
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:59 pm

    kvs wrote:We will have history repeating as a farce.  Bidet is trying to follow in the footsteps of Hitler (yes really) and will only succeed
    in stepping on his own rake.    Compered to 1940, the USA is a soft, rotten "threat to itself" and Russia is on a whole other plane
    than the USSR.   NATzO tanks will not be rolling into the Russian heartland.  They will not even be able to cross a few kilometers
    inside Russia's borders.   The only war option Bidet has is a nuclear attack and that, today, is guaranteed suicide for Uncle Swine-shit.

    Dreams of regime change in Russia should have stopped after 2011.  But retards will keep trying the same trick over and over
    hoping for success.  


    Do you seriously think they will invade Russia or attempt?

    No they won't
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:59 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    kvs wrote:We will have history repeating as a farce.  Bidet is trying to follow in the footsteps of Hitler (yes really) and will only succeed
    in stepping on his own rake.    Compered to 1940, the USA is a soft, rotten "threat to itself" and Russia is on a whole other plane
    than the USSR.   NATzO tanks will not be rolling into the Russian heartland.  They will not even be able to cross a few kilometers
    inside Russia's borders.   The only war option Bidet has is a nuclear attack and that, today, is guaranteed suicide for Uncle Swine-shit.

    Dreams of regime change in Russia should have stopped after 2011.  But retards will keep trying the same trick over and over
    hoping for success.  


    Do you seriously think they will invade Russia or attempt?

    No they won't

    Never underestimate idiocy. Never.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:45 am

    And because of Amerikkka's countless crimes against humanity, I firmly believe that they deserve a taste of Humiliation. Let them experience what it feels when a Superpower collapse and break up into pieces and their entire population is plunged into third-world level poverty. Do not deny the world this spectacular sight

    You have to appreciate the situation... we are in the house of a hard working man who worked long hours to put a roof over his families head and provide food and clothes... only he has just lost his job... so the income is gone... his wife and his kids don't look at him the same any more... he used to tell them what to do but he also paid for everything and kept them warm and fed and safe... now lets say he worked for the Church and while he may or may not have committed crimes against children he certainly protected men who did... the money is gone the job is gone the wife was probably having an affair and now the money is gone she will be gone the next chance she gets... and the kids are over 16 years old...

    You could kick him when he is down and tell him what a controlling monster he has been to his own family and the neighbours, but when that bank manager comes to collect what he is owed and he brings the local sherriff with him... you know it is because of this guys extensive gun collection... you want a show... well this guy hasn't just got a pistol and a .22 rifle and a shotgun... this guy has nukes.... enough weapons and ammo to kill everyone in the village... are you still sure you want to poke him with a stick and tell him what a bastard he has been?

    Because the chances he will take a properly look at himself and realise you are right and to thank you for the analysis and that he needs to change his life around and sort his shit out is probably pretty low considering the level of character and integrity he has shown so far... it is more likely he will do a Hitler and expect the world to burn with him...

    The US is not going to disappear... even a bloody civil war might leave them divided but even the parts will be strong and rather well armed... though the experience of the Soviet Union would probably be a good example of what could happen... cutting off the dead wood and streamlining to get something much more productive and competitive is all together possible with the right person...

    The EU might sit back and watch or it might pounce on central and south america and other US assets... Hawaii might become an independent country and improve relations with its pacific neighbours too... who knows.

    But those nuclear weapons are a serious concern either way and they have enormous numbers of warheads in storage... not destroyed.

    Do you seriously think they will invade Russia or attempt?

    The drunk and the desperate do some crazy things...
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    Post  LMFS Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:55 am

    Civil defense exercises to be held in 2021 under Putin's leadership

    MOSCOW, 2 Jan-RIA Novosti. Large-scale civil defense exercises are planned to be held in Russia in 2021 under the leadership of the President of the Russian FederationVladimir Putin.
    In October 2020, the country hosted all-Russian civil defense exercises together with Executive authorities at all levels. During the training, the issues of warning and gathering management personnel, deploying a control system at all levels, alerting and informing the population about the procedure for action in various threats, including air and chemical alarms, radiation hazards and the threat of catastrophic flooding were worked out. The main site of the exercise was deployed on the territory ofTver region.
    EMERCOM exercises during the third stage of the all-Russian civil defense training in Rostov-on-don-RIA Novosti, Russia, 04.10.2020
    October 4, 2020, 04: 17
    The day of civil defense of Russia
    "This is preparation for large-scale exercises under the leadership of Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2021," he told RIA Novosti in the press service of the emergencies Ministry, citing the head office of Eugene Senicheva.

    https://ria.ru/20210102/ucheniya-1591815313.html

    I post this news here because I interpret it as yet another sign of the unprecedented level of readiness that Russia is placing herself under. The are expecting the West to fall to new lows anytime now.

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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Jan 24, 2021 3:42 pm

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:37 am

    Amusing, but the US and EU are more likely to break up than Russia is...
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:53 am

    since he is posting this bullshit video multiple times here, I will respond with same comment I gave in other thread:

    There won't be a direct war.

    It will be much if the same shit as going on already for years.

    BTW, why did South Front go total retard anyway? Did their financing get a big doner from any specific party?

    South Front is shit. They are stealing peoples money to create crap videos.
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    Post  LMFS Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:33 am

    Current escalations in Syria, Irak, Israel attacking Iranian commercial vessels, NS2, Ukraine, NK, smearing of Sputnik V... it seems that the Biden team has no time to lose, hope all those events do not end up combined in a bigger global conflict censored
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    Post  AlfaT8 Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:14 pm

    The US Keeps Losing In Every Simulated War-Game Against China

    In the autumn of 2020, the US Air Force held a simulated war game against China, set approximately 10 years in the future.

    It began with a biological weapon that quickly dealt with America’s military bases and warships in the Indo-Pacific region.

    Then, China staged a massive military exercise to veil a gigantic deployment of an invasion force.

    The simulation culminated with Chinese missile strikes raining down on U.S. bases and warships in the region, and a lightning air and amphibious assault on the island of Taiwan.

    China won, within a very short timeframe.....

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-keeps-losing-every-simulated-war-game-against-china
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    Post  Hole Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:12 pm

    "Biological weapon". Yeah. Sure. No cry attack

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    Post  kvs Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:09 pm

    Hole wrote:"Biological weapon". Yeah. Sure. No cry attack

    When yanquis accuse their "enemies" of something, you know for sure that they plan on using something similar or worse.

    The US is the number one country on the planet for the use of biowarfare against civilian targets. This includes the attempt
    to destroy Cuban, Soviet and North Korean agriculture. We likely do not even know all the other cases where they pulled
    their cheats.



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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:59 am

    Exactly... their criticisms of their supposed enemies often reflect the tactics and mentality of their own evil wants and desires...

    It is amusing trying to blame Putin for killing an ex Russian spy while Saudi Arabia have a Saudi National brutally murdered and dismembered in a Saudi embassy in Turkey, or the US flys murder bots around the skies of several countries killing thousands of people every year... no trial... no oversight... no repercussions...
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    Post  George1 Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:58 pm

    British intelligence accused Russia of trying to jam the signals of military aircraft in Cyprus
    https://en.topwar.ru/181064-britanskaja-razvedka-obvinila-rossiju-v-popytkah-zaglushit-signaly-voennyh-samoletov-na-kipre.html

    Sweden restores air defense system on the island of Gotland "due to Russian threat"
    https://en.topwar.ru/181041-shvecija-vosstanavlivaet-sistemu-pvo-na-ostrove-gotland-iz-za-rossijskoj-ugrozy.html
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:24 am

    George1 wrote:British intelligence accused Russia of trying to jam the signals of military aircraft in Cyprus
    https://en.topwar.ru/181064-britanskaja-razvedka-obvinila-rossiju-v-popytkah-zaglushit-signaly-voennyh-samoletov-na-kipre.html

    I am pretty sure Russia was just setting up their 5G network nearby. Rolling Eyes
    The Brits need to stop whining.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:51 am

    They are at an airfield... why would they need GPS to know where they are?

    If they have just taken off or are just landing how shit would their inertial navigation systems need to be for them to suddenly be lost... can they not read a map.

    And then you read the article and the attempts to jam supposedly all failed.

    Sounds like claims of election interference... they tried but did not succeed but we need to punish them for trying.

    Thing is that the US election system is clearly broken and I suspect accusations of interference were used to explain Hilary losing the election she was so sure she was going to win.

    So if that is the case can we assume the A-400M has some avionics problems they clearly want to now blame on Russia...

    Boy crying wolf again....

    Regarding the thread on Sweden reading the comments below was very interesting... like one comment:

    Regarding Swedens neutrality during WWII Ross xnumx said:


    Not such a shitty neutrality. These "neutrals", while the world was bleeding during WWII, decided to take on the "heavy burden of neutrality":

    The peculiarities of Swedish neutrality remained even from the moment of Germany's attack on the USSR together with its allies on June 22, 1941. This was very well manifested when the Swedish-German trade agreement was concluded on December 20, 1941, but which Germany had taken from Sweden by 1944 million tons of iron ore, meeting their needs by 38%. On average, each German gun and tank contained up to 90% Swedish metal. In transit through Sweden from third countries (mainly first from the United States and then from Argentina), Germany received oil products, as well as wool, leather, coffee, wine, tobacco products, clothing and other types of scarce goods. Sweden exported coal, coke, synthetic rubber and artificial fertilizers from Germany. In the banks of Sweden, Germany and all citizens placed significant financial resources, including values ​​confiscated in the occupied territories of European countries. In turn, Swedish banks provided large loans to industrial enterprises in Germany, not excluding those producing military products. Many Swedish firms that produced weapons, in particular artillery and small arms, supplied components to the Wehrmacht throughout the war, as well as to the army of Germany's allies - to Hungary, Finland and Romania. If we add to this loans, the supply of its own weapons, as well as the status of the largest supplier of iron ore for the needs of the German military industry, it turns out that during the entire period of the Second World War, Sweden was intensively arming Nazi Germany.
    The world's best ball bearings of the famous SCF concern, timber, ferroalloys, high-quality steel, cellulose, artificial fiber, machine tools, electrical equipment, tools and sea vessels were also supplied to Germany. Sweden actively supplied Germany with its high-quality iron ore, and gradually Swedish trade with Nazi Germany began to account for up to 90% of all Swedish foreign trade. Moreover, the supply of ore to Germany continued practically throughout the entire period of the USSR war against Nazi Germany, before the defeat of the Third Reich became completely obvious.

    Also:

    On July 9, 1998, the Swedish media published an interim report on the cooperation of Swedish banks with Nazi Germany. It turned out that 60 tons of gold from Germany and from the territories of the countries occupied by the Nazis were transferred to the accounts of the National Bank of Sweden during World War II. In 1949 and 1955. The Swedish State Bank has returned 13 tons of gold stolen by the Nazis from the Central Banks of Belgium and the Netherlands. 649 accounts belonging to Holocaust victims were found in Swedish banks. In general, the Swedish banking sector during the war period grew significantly along with large industrial companies that supplied goods to Germany.

    An interesting view into the character of Sweden....

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    Post  slasher Sat Mar 20, 2021 12:59 pm

    US-CHINA TENSIONS
    How it happened: Transcript of the US-China opening remarks in Alaska https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/US-China-tensions/How-it-happened-Transcript-of-the-US-China-opening-remarks-in-Alaska
    China's Yang: 'Is that the way that you had hoped to conduct this dialogue?'

    Usually respectful and diplomatic, reports are that China really took it to the arrogant Americans this week in Alaska, left them in shock lol

    "Many people within the United States actually have little confidence in the democracy of the United States ... we believe that it is important for the United States to change its own image and to stop advancing its own democracy in the rest of the world.”
    Chinese Communist Party foreign affairs chief Yang Jiechi:

    “When I entered this room, I should have reminded the U.S. side of paying attention to its tone in our respective opening remarks, but I didn’t,” Yang said. “The Chinese side felt compelled to make this speech because of the tone of the U.S. side.”

    “So let me say here, that in front of the Chinese side the United States does not have the qualifications to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength.”

    Mic drop...

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:23 am

    GarryB wrote:Also:

    On July 9, 1998, the Swedish media published an interim report on the cooperation of Swedish banks with Nazi Germany. It turned out that 60 tons of gold from Germany and from the territories of the countries occupied by the Nazis were transferred to the accounts of the National Bank of Sweden during World War II. In 1949 and 1955. The Swedish State Bank has returned 13 tons of gold stolen by the Nazis from the Central Banks of Belgium and the Netherlands. 649 accounts belonging to Holocaust victims were found in Swedish banks. In general, the Swedish banking sector during the war period grew significantly along with large industrial companies that supplied goods to Germany.

    An interesting view into the character of Sweden....

    But, but every human rights index has them near the top of their list... clown lol1 clown lol1

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    Post  GarryB Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:30 am

    Dear America... China is a country. If you think you can dictate to it what it can or cannot do or what it should or should not do then you don't understand the difference between a country and a child, which is ironic because you are acting more like the latter than any other country on the planet.
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    Post  Kiko Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:09 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Also:

    On July 9, 1998, the Swedish media published an interim report on the cooperation of Swedish banks with Nazi Germany. It turned out that 60 tons of gold from Germany and from the territories of the countries occupied by the Nazis were transferred to the accounts of the National Bank of Sweden during World War II. In 1949 and 1955. The Swedish State Bank has returned 13 tons of gold stolen by the Nazis from the Central Banks of Belgium and the Netherlands. 649 accounts belonging to Holocaust victims were found in Swedish banks. In general, the Swedish banking sector during the war period grew significantly along with large industrial companies that supplied goods to Germany.

    An interesting view into the character of Sweden....

    But, but every human rights index has them near the top of their list... clown lol1 clown lol1

    The much and planet-widespread vaunted Swedish "neutrality" urgently needs a de-mystification. Time and again Sweden starts NATzO enamouring.
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    Post  kvs Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:15 am

    Sweden is a PC toilet. If you tell your children not to worship trannies (and eventually pedophiles) you will be prosecuted to
    the fullest extent of the law for child abuse and hate crimes. This is a country where no go zones are denied but grow in size
    every day. A country that prosecutes people for stating obvious truths in social media posts.

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    Post  kvs Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:59 pm



    This fits this thread since it underscores the depravity of Uncle Swine-shit.

    During the failed meeting with Chinese officials in Anchorage, Alaska, the Bidet administration tried to stage a public
    humiliation with the attack of the standard tropes. Uighur "genocide", Hong Kong "repression", LGBTXYZ special rights
    denial, "respect" for the environment, and of course the Tibet "occupation" (in this case they actually have some
    validity in the accusation). The Chinese came prepared and responded point by point to the US attack and
    noted that the US has not authority to attack China on behalf of the planet. Of course, the US attack included
    the usual "China is destabilizing the situation" braying when in fact it is the US with its dick waving in the South China
    Sea that is pulling the gunboat "diplomacy" card.

    But the exchange above involved yanqui dirty tricks. Supposedly there was an agreement that individual attendees
    would not take more than 2 minutes to make their statements. The yanquis broke the agreed to terms first by taking
    10 minutes or longer to rant against China. This promoted the Chinese to reply point by point and it took one Chinese
    diplomat 15 minutes. After the meeting the yanquis accused China of breaking the 2 minute limit. Hypocrisy is
    clearly congenital in yanquis. (BTW, the RBC report on this meeting excludes the above details).

    Now we have a suicide bombing in southern China, Guangzhou. What a coincidence. I recall similar coincidences
    in happening in Russia as well. The same Wahabbi excrement was involved in Russia as in China. And these
    Wahabbi "Muslims" are the product of brainwashing by Saudi clerics and their acolytes. Recall that Saudi Arabia
    is a US protectorate and that the USA is allied with the jihadis in Syria (and Central Asia). In the video its noted
    that this may be some disgruntled individual who had a problem with the "regime" like the clown who staged the
    shooting near Lubyanka not too long ago. But in my opinion the modus operandi smells of a radicalized jihadi.
    The timing is just absurd, since it looks like a message to Lavrov who is about to come to China for some serious
    meetings.


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    Post  AlfaT8 Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:17 pm

    kvs wrote:Sweden is a PC toilet.  If you tell your children not to worship trannies (and eventually pedophiles) you will be prosecuted to
    the fullest extent of the law for child abuse and hate crimes.   This is a country where no go zones are denied but grow in size
    every day.   A country that prosecutes people for stating obvious truths in social media posts.  


    Meh. Neutral
    Let them die. study

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