or some meaning else
first time i heard about the name
it is English word i know it i heard before
but i couldnt get the meaning why russian named it so
Love the phrase "transportation reticence" used to describe the components housed in standard marine containers. Whoever came up with that knew his English.George1 wrote:Club (Kalibr)-K visuals by JSC Rosoboronexport. Note Project 21820 landing craft render - armed with 2x Club-K with 4 missiles each
George1 wrote:New Kalibr-M cruise missile with range of over 4,500 km in development in Russia - source
PapaDragon wrote:George1 wrote:New Kalibr-M cruise missile with range of over 4,500 km in development in Russia - source
They'll need new launcher for these.
I assume approach will be for this new one to ba able to load and fire several standard Kalibr or Redut AA missiles using adapters?
The other day, literally, information passed that the development of a new version of a cruise missile with a range of more than 4500 km Caliber-M was begun. A source in the defense industry told TASS about it. "For the Navy, the newest high-precision ship-based Kalibr-M cruise missile with a maximum firing range of more than 4.5 thousand km is being developed. The creation of the rocket is at the stage of research and is financed by the Ministry of Defense." The rocket is included in the state program of armaments for 2018–2027, and therefore, until 2027, it should be entered into service with the Russian Navy. It is also reported that the rocket will be larger and the mass of the warhead close to 1000 kg. New rocket is planned to equip large surface ships, starting with frigates, as well as nuclear submarines. As well as the progenitor of the new rocket will be able to carry both nuclear and conventional combat units, and will be designed to defeat ground objects.
I propose to start with dimensions: the Caliber 3M-14 rocket in its maximum configuration (let's say) has a caliber of 533 mm and a length of up to 8220 mm, and a mass of 2300 kg. In this case, it is considered that its range is 2000-2500 km. With a warhead weight of about 500 kg. Immediately make a reservation - the mass of a nuclear warhead can be significantly less - for example, 150 kg. The use of such missiles on shipboard ships is provided with a launcher of a vertical launch of the 3C-14 type. The same launchers 3C-14 are also used as the Onyx 3M-55 anti-ship missiles. TPK which has a length of up to 8900 mm and a diameter of up to 720 mm, the mass of the rocket is not less than 3000 kg.
It is not difficult to assume that the available reserves allow to carry out a rocket "type 3M-14" with a diameter of 700 mm instead of 533 mm and a length of 8900 mm instead of 8220 mm, which gives just at least 200 kg of additional fuel, but taking into account the optimization of the layout (I think that there are reserves, taking into account the age of the current missiles, will actually give more than 300 kg of additional fuel. And taking into account a more optimal aerodynamic shape, as well as more high-energy fuel, as well as updating the engine, it will fully provide a corresponding increase in flight range.
Yes, it is likely that the shape of the new missiles will be less round and more flat-square-diamond. The marching engine most likely will not move out of the hull. The start will be smaller in size. Perhaps in the new UBCS there is a reserve for larger-diameter missiles — then the task will be a bit simpler. By the way, with a modular design (and why not?) With such a nuclear missile, the range can be even more. Or maybe 4500 km - this is exactly the range with a nuclear charge? Then, in general, you can do almost nothing - learn how to put a rubber tank instead of half the combat compartment and fly. Just kidding, of course.
Isos wrote:Are you talking about attacking a carrier group ? USSR/Russian tactics is to find them with submarines which now have 40 vls for 40 antiship missiles.
A carrier group makes huge sound and will be detected far away something like 300-400km in good conditions. The data will be send back towards ship and HQ.
The group goes at max 50km/h so after 1h it can be 50km away, after 2h 100km away ...
Modern radars in antiship missiles have a range of 40-60km. It will be very hard for the carrier to get away specially that tu-22M will be send very fast and launch their kh-32 from 1000km.
On the other side radar range of awacs is not that huge. From what I saw on other forum they talk about 200-300km against a 4th generation fighter. They use L band so stealth works less on them but a 5th generation plane still has shapes that send radar signal in other durection than where the radar is so you can expect less range against them (something like 180-280km). A su-35 Irbis radar has 400 km range against a 5m2 jet and 300km r-37 missile to shot down the awacs. Its radar can also detect a carrier at 400km pretty easily and khbiniy EW pods and its onboard RWR will detect any signal out there like data links or comms and know the direction from where it comes and maybe even the range.
The radars on old bombers like tu-95 or tu22M have also huge ranges against carriers. New pak da will be more and it will come with hypersonic tactical missiles.