Ranxerox71 Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:35 am
Stealth is on first place something which was , you can believe or not, used from Pentagon, like Magic Formula for solution of one large problem which USA always had towards USSR(such as Today Russia, by words of many distinctive USAF generals) Russia have most powerfull SAM system (not like specific model) but System As a whole , and that is situation from middle of 60'ths which isn't changed to much in present day.... So Stealth was seen like one of usable add on for penetration of those SAM systems, but until this day he shown only one thing a large gap between what the Pentagon advertised for three decades and the actual results achieved in the field of real Stealth features or levels, more accurate name is LOW low observable vehicles, even very low observable isn't achieved, and not exactly on the basis of which he received, the amount of money that in fact no one does not know, especially after 9/11 and the destruction of the Pentagon rooms where they kept data on large-scale embezzlement of money on various projects exactly like STEALTH is like.My point is that LOV(low observable vehicle) have for certain advantage over not L.O.V, but problem is that Stealth is almost something like Making shields and bullets which need to penetrate that shield, I make Shield which neither one old bullet can penetrate , but then for several months somebody make bullet which penetrate that shield, Because of that Russian approach to Stealth is much more realistic,because if somebody knows ways how to see and lock STEALTH plane that will be Russians, when we talk about STEALTH achieved first whit shaping the object, then whit use of composite material and various RAM materials , like is Graphen etc, they know that high percent of stealth can be achieved only by electro magnetic means, which simple instead of plane for radars will be empty air, They was experimented(and they still do) whit electro-magnetic and quantum physics which can made any Flying object on certain amount of time to made completely nonvisible for radars...So no body say that idea that something become nonvisible for enemy radars is bad, or that Russian not believe in concept it self, they just have opinion that whit means by which today is achieved in reality very small percent of Stealth and usual by very high price for many equally and more important characteristic of Plane, best proof is F22 and F35, both planes have high percent of "Stealth" characteristic, and both pay heavy price because of same F22, by almost War worthless shape in which they will find it self after extremely short time of engagement, and almost non posible badly needed maintenance into field conditions, until for F35 already showing that he will have same problem in ratio of Hour of War fly engagement : maintenance....Why, because from one side they because of Stealth was constructed from materials which made him extremely vulnerable plane "for close support to the infantry" Second he by the latest estimate of the main people in charge of testing and assessment (Gen.Bogdan), will not be allowed to fly the missions without fighter escort, maybe he is Stealthy, but Escort isnt , all in all altogether slowly becoming one more logistic nightmare, and do not be fooled by the fact that all members of NATO ordered by some F35, they simply must to. end the story. And for the end, Russians is also hope that US and NATO will by more and more "Stealth" plane believe me.
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Clutter rejection of enemy radar, Yes that is Holly Grail,Problem is that you do not mention that Threshold one sophisticated Radar can change in matter of 0.05 seconds like Gama D in Network whit extreme L Band NEBO-M and Several most powerful stationary Voronez type of Deep Horisont -hemisphere radars Active-Semi Active-Passive (chose mode which you wish)And i hardly mention 2% of all modern means for detection of flying objects on the sky over Russia. , second and most important thing, USA by they National Strategy wrote in the middle of 70'ths, that against which kind of enemy will fighting in the end of XX and beginning of XXI century, mostly the wars against "highly" inferior enemy's, which have not neither one really effective means for Air Defence, if we talk about Air Planes usually number ratio was hilarious something like 100:1, if we talk about SAM's in 99% they have in best case Russian SQUARE from begining of 60'ths, but never the less in Serbia one of this was SEE f-117, not pure luck , or any of that, They was Seen, Lock On and Shot down f-117, now you can ask how Iraqi crew wasn't shot any of, or Libya or...Because Serbian Army by they training was light year ahead towards all those arab Army's and they simply was know how to squeeze maximum from system by which they operate, and will for giving they life if that is necessary(because wasn't odd that same crew had more successful hits then whole Iraqi Army together) And make compare , if one Serbian crew was able to shot down four enemy Air Planes(between them is one smaller Stealth and by some Source also Big MF also Highly Stealth, but because for that one in Belgrade Museum of Air forces do not have any parts like they have of F-117)those one we will not count, if they was see F-117, Can You Imagine capability of Russian Air Defence i will repeat several US navy Intelligence officers was said that situation from midle of 70'ths is almost wasn't change, like then , Russian today have one of most formidable Air defence in the world, . End of Story.
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