Foreign flagged tankers & other merchant ships can be turned away. PLAN & VMF tankers r not enough to help Venezuela's trade.US navy can block the venezuelan ships but not russian or chinese.
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Venezuela crisis
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Will usa be successful in installing it's puppet
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Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5953
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- Post n°626
Re: Venezuela crisis
GarryB- Posts : 39672
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- Post n°627
Re: Venezuela crisis
Many US subservient flagged ships will obey any blockade, but there are plenty of other ships that wont... is the US prepared to open fire on ships in international waters or Venezuelan waters to enforce a blockade not supported by the UN?
They would be opening themselves up to serious potential backlash... blockading a country is an act of war... they could simply round up all Americans in Venezuela and use them on their ships... starting with Guano. Lock them in a below decks room and handcuff them to each other... sink the ship and the crew will likely make it to life rafts but the US just killed its own people.
Either way a great way to remove Americans and their supporters from the country...
They would be opening themselves up to serious potential backlash... blockading a country is an act of war... they could simply round up all Americans in Venezuela and use them on their ships... starting with Guano. Lock them in a below decks room and handcuff them to each other... sink the ship and the crew will likely make it to life rafts but the US just killed its own people.
Either way a great way to remove Americans and their supporters from the country...
nomadski- Posts : 2903
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- Post n°628
Re: Venezuela crisis
Why not Iranians and Venezuelans and north yemen and China and Russia SIMULTANEOUSLY block ships ? If yank block Venezuela, then Iran block Hormuz , and yemen block bab - al - mandeb and china block south sea and Russia block Mediterranean sea ? For a short while . A few days ? Even a few hours ? Better than one ship ram another ship . Too many ships . Yanks have 500 . Must devide their forces . I am hoping they coordinate it .
Can north Korea block something ? ..........
Can north Korea block something ? ..........
andalusia- Posts : 735
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- Post n°629
Re: Venezuela crisis
This is a good article here that the mainstream media doesn't report this angle of the situation in Venezuela.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-pilger-war-venezuela-built-lies/255422/?fbclid=IwAR2XvYAUJ-LTMBkThN-RHiLxsSyYTkA5H78jyLUYQF12sPAlqv-PGGNKJCk
https://www.mintpressnews.com/john-pilger-war-venezuela-built-lies/255422/?fbclid=IwAR2XvYAUJ-LTMBkThN-RHiLxsSyYTkA5H78jyLUYQF12sPAlqv-PGGNKJCk
GarryB- Posts : 39672
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- Post n°630
Re: Venezuela crisis
Very good article that some people on this forum who think Maduro should go should look at... the conflict in Venezuela is about whether white America and their cronies control oil reserves or not... the Venezuelan people mean nothing in this sort of accounting... so if Maduro should go then you clearly are either a nazi or a communist sympathiser, because democracy has nothing to do with removing a democratically elected leader...
Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5953
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- Post n°631
Re: Venezuela crisis
US mil. group in C. and S. America has now up to 20K people, can be doubled - GRU
Bloomberg: US made another mistake in Latin America https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2618995.html
Bloomberg: US made another mistake in Latin America https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2618995.html
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kvs- Posts : 15480
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- Post n°632
Re: Venezuela crisis
The UN will never approve a blockade of Venezuela. So any US attack on ships trying to reach Venezuelan harbours will be considered
legally as naked aggression and an act of war. US sanctions and other racketeering scam theater work on its quisling regimes and
other weak countries. They don't work on Russia and China.
The fact that the US backed off after a couple of hundred Russian and Chinese specialists arrived in Venezuela implies it will not be
engaging in naval warfare with Russia and China. So there will be no blockade. America needs some "international coalition" as a
fig leaf for such action. No such coalition will form. Even in Latin America there is not much appetite for Uncle Scumbag's chode.
legally as naked aggression and an act of war. US sanctions and other racketeering scam theater work on its quisling regimes and
other weak countries. They don't work on Russia and China.
The fact that the US backed off after a couple of hundred Russian and Chinese specialists arrived in Venezuela implies it will not be
engaging in naval warfare with Russia and China. So there will be no blockade. America needs some "international coalition" as a
fig leaf for such action. No such coalition will form. Even in Latin America there is not much appetite for Uncle Scumbag's chode.
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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- Post n°633
Re: Venezuela crisis
Guaido started the coup at 5:48 am local time - one hour ago. They freed Leopoldo Lopez and went to La Carlota air base (Caracas), where part of the National Guard defected to his side, the rebels now identify themselves with blue ribbons. Now the rebels hold the airbase, waiting for the government attack, that was just announced.
Highway next to it is already blocked
![Venezuela crisis - Page 26 21830005_0](https://venezuela.liveuamap.com/pics/2019/04/30/21830005_0.jpg)
Maduro's National Guard took over Altamira interchange, SEBIN Intelligence service cars visible
https://twitter.com/Adriananunezr/status/1123168168938287104
Military reinforcements flowing eastward into Altamira via Chacao neighbourhood
https://twitter.com/isnardobravo/status/1123172731258843138
Highway next to it is already blocked
![Venezuela crisis - Page 26 21830005_0](https://venezuela.liveuamap.com/pics/2019/04/30/21830005_0.jpg)
Maduro's National Guard took over Altamira interchange, SEBIN Intelligence service cars visible
https://twitter.com/Adriananunezr/status/1123168168938287104
Military reinforcements flowing eastward into Altamira via Chacao neighbourhood
https://twitter.com/isnardobravo/status/1123172731258843138
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°634
Re: Venezuela crisis
Guaidos group is small. I don't think they even hold the airbase. So I think they will be crushed.
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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- Post n°635
Re: Venezuela crisis
Let's see how long will they last. The anti-terror op began half an hour ago
https://twitter.com/AbreuReport/status/1123206853255749632
https://twitter.com/AbreuReport/status/1123206853255749632
ATLASCUB- Posts : 1154
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- Post n°636
Re: Venezuela crisis
They finally got Leopoldo to show his face in public once again - and in a very favorable way (for the govt.).
This presents a lot of opportunities if cashed in properly.
This presents a lot of opportunities if cashed in properly.
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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- Post n°637
Re: Venezuela crisis
Now, that it's becoming clear that there the mutiny has been contained and there will be no more defections, it will be time to judge the mutineers.
https://twitter.com/NTN24ve/status/1123254636511625216
https://twitter.com/NTN24ve/status/1123254636511625216
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°638
Re: Venezuela crisis
Apparently some of the so called mutineers were actually fooled into it
Eric Prince wanting to use mercenaries in Venezuela.
Eric Prince wanting to use mercenaries in Venezuela.
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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- Post n°639
Re: Venezuela crisis
Great. So it's entire Venezuelan nation + entire military + mercenaries vs. Nicolas Maduro. That's one strong man.
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Hannibal Barca- Posts : 1443
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- Post n°640
Re: Venezuela crisis
OK they have to kill Guaido and many others that took place in this civil war attempt, else they will never be taken seriously.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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Re: Venezuela crisis
https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1123247890426732544?s=19
Soldiers saying they were tricked by Guaido
Soldiers saying they were tricked by Guaido
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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- Post n°642
Re: Venezuela crisis
I retweeted this.
Maduro doesn't have to use violence, that is for weak men. Rule of law on the other hand has to work of course.
Maduro doesn't have to use violence, that is for weak men. Rule of law on the other hand has to work of course.
MiamiMachineShop- Posts : 111
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- Post n°643
Re: Venezuela crisis
Perhaps now the Russian contingent can be increased to Khmeimim levels? What should the makeup of future Russian personnel consist of? Air defense/VVS personnel? Could we see TU-160 deployed for extended time? PVDSA can basically finance the Russian operation so its not like its a matter of money, I would say Venezuelan oil can keep the Russian grouping there without strain on budget. Basically if Russia increases LNG export they can slow production of oil and keep Venezuelan oil on the market even if USA doesn't like it without affecting market dynamics much
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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Re: Venezuela crisis
There is no Russian contingent in Venezuela. Limited number of personnel has arrived there to open helicopter school and talk about fulfilling existing contracts. Permanent deployment of foreign forces on Venezuelan soil is forbidden by constitution.
You can ask Colombians about foreign presence in Venezuela, if you want
You can ask Colombians about foreign presence in Venezuela, if you want
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Tsavo Lion- Posts : 5953
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- Post n°645
Re: Venezuela crisis
Will Venezuela become South America's Afghanistan?
Hole- Posts : 10982
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- Post n°646
Re: Venezuela crisis
Well, who turned Afghanistan into Afghanistan (so to say)? Billions from Amiland, Takfiristan and their western european vassals.
verkhoturye51- Posts : 438
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- Post n°647
Re: Venezuela crisis
No way, Guaido's right hand has pulled tail between his legs:
https://twitter.com/robertoampuero/status/1123307791299547138
It's officially over
https://twitter.com/robertoampuero/status/1123307791299547138
It's officially over
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Aristide- Posts : 1075
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- Post n°648
Re: Venezuela crisis
Time to shot the bus driver and be done with this socialist shit.
I must admit i always feel happy when such russkie supported clown dictstors go down
I must admit i always feel happy when such russkie supported clown dictstors go down
MiamiMachineShop- Posts : 111
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- Post n°649
Re: Venezuela crisis
They should be put down brutally like Comrade Andropov steamrolled Czechs and Hungarians. Basically Venezuela will become a rent extraction scheme for Russian Neo-Empire, but with some benefits for Venezuela, basically survival for them in exchange for oil, resources, military contracts. French and Americans have no say whatsoever in this process. After squashing those rioting Venezuelans we can say the situation in brotherly Venezuela has been normalized.
MiamiMachineShop- Posts : 111
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- Post n°650
Re: Venezuela crisis
Leopoldo Lopez has fled to Chilean embassy in Venezuela. Not that he was going to make any difference, but it seems situation was indeed normalized. Traitors are running to Brazil. This was like bay of pigs basically but even worse because the three stooges pence, bolton, and pompeo were basically tweeting as if some finality was coming. In the end, normalization of agitators only leads to the strengthening of the ruling hand. After Soviets ran over Hungarians and Czechs it was the same. The Communist Party there was strengthened to high levels. This is a big victory for the so called bus driver. Seems he can drive more than just a bus
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