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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:09 pm


    Russia chose the wrong name for the vaccine

    They should have called it Red Army V

    Just imagine the headlines Cool

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    Post  GarryB Mon Mar 22, 2021 3:24 am

    I think it would sound better if they called it Putin Juice...

    The Swedes say they are ready to produce their own Putin Juice... in their labs for domestic use and for export to countries who can't produce their own...
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    Post  Nomad5891 Thu Mar 25, 2021 6:00 am

    GarryB wrote:I think it would sound better if they called it Putin Juice...

    The Swedes say they are ready to produce their own Putin Juice... in their labs for domestic use and for export to countries who can't produce their own...

    Putin got vaccinated the other day. Finally, I guess in a move to push Russians to do the same. Up to now he was one of the few country leaders who have not taken a vaccine, fueling the misthurst of his own citizens in Sputnik V.

    What is akward though is they don't want to disclose the name of the vaccine. dunno

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:11 am

    Because that would be advertising when there are other covid vaccines in Russia.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:43 am

    Nomad5891 wrote:Putin got vaccinated the other day. Finally, I guess in a move to push Russians to do the same. Up to now he was one of the few country leaders who have not taken a vaccine, fueling the misthurst of his own citizens in Sputnik V.

    What is akward though is they don't want to disclose the name of the vaccine.  dunno

    Could you please stop parroting 5th column libtard talking points? You keep making shit up out of non issues

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    Post  kvs Thu Mar 25, 2021 4:17 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    Nomad5891 wrote:Putin got vaccinated the other day. Finally, I guess in a move to push Russians to do the same. Up to now he was one of the few country leaders who have not taken a vaccine, fueling the misthurst of his own citizens in Sputnik V.

    What is akward though is they don't want to disclose the name of the vaccine.  dunno

    Could you please stop parroting 5th column libtard talking points? You keep making shit up out of non issues

    This forum is being spammed by trolls parroting the usual retarded talking points on Russia. It is a type of Gish Gallop where
    the effort to refute every obscure claim takes more effort than the trolling by far. This is where the job of the forum mods
    should kick in. Since anti-Russian trolls already have an infinite pool for their hate, they do not have a right to spread their
    hate propaganda on every forum. The mods cannot expect non-troll members to spend all their waking hours debunking
    anti-Russian drivel. Obvious trolls who only post anti-Russian talking points are not legitimate forum members. They should
    be banned.

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    Post  LMFS Thu Mar 25, 2021 7:55 pm

    kvs wrote:This forum is being spammed by trolls parroting the usual retarded talking points on Russia.   It is a type of Gish Gallop where
    the effort to refute every obscure claim takes more effort than the trolling by far.   This is where the job of the forum mods
    should kick in.   Since anti-Russian trolls already have an infinite pool for their hate, they do not have a right to spread their
    hate propaganda on every forum.   The mods cannot expect non-troll members to spend all their waking hours debunking
    anti-Russian drivel.   Obvious trolls who only post anti-Russian talking points are not legitimate forum members.   They should
    be banned.  

    Bravo. These people are just mocking the forum, not contributing shit to the "discussion" taking place.

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    Post  Hole Thu Mar 25, 2021 9:25 pm

    There are a few names coming to my mind. Very Happy
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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:37 am

    Putin got vaccinated the other day.

    He did, but he is relatively fit and healthy and not suffering asthma or diabetes, so he is in a low risk group for complications with Covid if he caught it.

    Finally, I guess in a move to push Russians to do the same.

    That was probably logically why he did it.

    Up to now he was one of the few country leaders who have not taken a vaccine, fueling the misthurst of his own citizens in Sputnik V.

    Give him credit... he was not actively going to hospitals with Covid infected patients shaking their hands without masks or gloves before a vaccine was available like Boris Johnson did.

    What is akward though is they don't want to disclose the name of the vaccine.

    What is Awkward is the fact that he had three seemingly effective Russian made vaccines that he could have chosen that seem to have no problems or side effects and seem to be the most effective available in the world despite western criticism and bad mouthing that supports anti vaxxers in their own countries which doesn't seem to bother them.

    By suggesting the Russian vaccines were rushed, it adds fuel to the anti vax fire because we know the western drugs were started mostly from scratch and therefore were vastly more rushed, and the fact that serious sounding side effects are being covered up and under reported in the west because it is related to western vaccines adds even more fuel to the anti vaxxers fire... yet lack of problems with the Russian jabs suggests they are actually good products that people should not be afraid of taking.

    The irony of the anti Russian reporting actually shows the Russian jabs are the best...

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    Post  lancelot Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:31 am

    GarryB wrote:...
    What is Awkward is the fact that he had three seemingly effective Russian made vaccines that he could have chosen that seem to have no problems or side effects and seem to be the most effective available in the world despite western criticism and bad mouthing that supports anti vaxxers in their own countries which doesn't seem to bother them.

    By suggesting the Russian vaccines were rushed, it adds fuel to the anti vax fire because we know the western drugs were started mostly from scratch and therefore were vastly more rushed, and the fact that serious sounding side effects are being covered up and under reported in the west because it is related to western vaccines adds even more fuel to the anti vaxxers fire... yet lack of problems with the Russian jabs suggests they are actually good products that people should not be afraid of taking.
    ...

    The Sputnik V was based on virus vectors which they already had available. So much of the research had already been done, they just adapted it to COVID-19.
    The vaccine had already been in testing with military personnel for months. It was idiotic to assume it wouldn't work.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:06 am

    Very true, but this is war and the truth is not important, nor is saving lives... we have to be seen as the best by everybody... can't say anything nice about a Russian rival product... that is how you lose hearts and minds.

    Of course all this propaganda bullshit that kills people in the west arguing over negotiating the best deal is what really costs hearts and minds...
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    Post  Kiko Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:48 pm

    EU Attempts to Take Measures to Discredit Russian COVID Vaccine, Intelligence Service Says
    30.3.2021

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The European Union is attempting to take urgent measures to undermine trust in Russia's COVID-19 vaccine, the press office of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said on Tuesday.

    "Recently, the desire of a number of representatives of the European bureaucracy to unconditionally follow the path of Washington's harsh attitudes towards Russia and everything connected with our country is acquiring simply grotesque forms … They are trying to suppress this 'unhealthy' activity by Russia and take urgent measures to discredit the vaccine created by Russian scientists", SVR said in a statement.

    Earlier this month, reports suggested the US and its allies were plotting a large-scale information campaign against Sputnik V and planned to circulate materials "exposing" the alleged incompetence of Russia's vaccination and immunology experts.

    https://sputniknews.com/europe/202103301082491269-eu-attempts-to-take-measures-to-discredit-russian-covid-vaccine-intelligence-service-says/
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:57 pm

    What's the point in saying this? Doesn't matter if they expose it. The US AND EU are both trying to discredit it

    They aren't the markets and the other nations already using Sputnik anyway and have their own results

    It's all so tiresome.
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    Post  LMFS Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:02 pm

    The more specifically you announce in advance what they are up to, the better pre-emptive effect. That is all they can do against Western foul play, as they regularly do announcing false flags with chemical weapons in Syria.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:18 pm

    LMFS wrote:The more specifically you announce in advance what they are up to, the better pre-emptive effect. That is all they can do against Western foul play, as they regularly do announcing false flags with chemical weapons in Syria.

    I guess you are right. It just feels ridiculous that Russia has to always say this to then the west saying it, and it just never amounts to anything.

    Russia should fight fire with fire and help tarnish the image of Western vaccines which are actually causing fatalities and other shit.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:04 am

    I guess you are right. It just feels ridiculous that Russia has to always say this to then the west saying it, and it just never amounts to anything.

    It never amounts to anything because the mask has been removed and the west has said... "And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids..."

    Being exposed before the crime is even committed means they move to plan B which would have been plan A if it was better...

    Russia should fight fire with fire and help tarnish the image of Western vaccines which are actually causing fatalities and other shit.

    Russia should fight lies and deception with the truth... gather together the actual results and publish the full truth... something the western drug companies don't seem that keen on publishing themselves. Most problems with the drugs has not been revealed by the company that makes the drug, but by the government agencies evaluating the drug for use.

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    Post  owais.usmani Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:03 pm

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/31/europe/russia-covid-vaccine-animals-intl/index.html

    (CNN)As governments across the globe scramble to secure Covid-19 vaccine doses for humans, Russia has registered the world's first coronavirus vaccine for animals, state media outlet TASS reported Wednesday.

    The vaccine is named Carnivak-Cov, TASS said, citing Konstantin Savenkov, the deputy head of Russia's Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Surveillance (Rosselkhoznadzor.)
    "Carnivak-Cov, a sorbate inactivated vaccine against the coronavirus infection for carnivorous animals, developed by Rosselkhoznadzor's Federal Center for Animal Health, has been registered in Russia. So far, it is the world's first and only product for preventing Covid-19 in animals," Savenkov said Wednesday.
    The vaccine will likely go into mass production as early as April, according to the TASS report.
    Clinical trials of Carnivak-Cov began last October, Savenkov said. The research involved dogs, cats, foxes, Arctic foxes, minks and other animals.
    Savenkov said all the vaccinated animals developed antibodies and that the outcome of the research gave Russia "grounds to conclude that the vaccine is safe and has strong immunogenic effect."

    The report said that the effect of the vaccine "is estimated to last no less than six months," quoting Savenkov.
    "According to Russian scientists, the use of the vaccine can prevent further mutations of the virus" the official said, adding that multiple firms from Greece, Poland and Austria plan to buy the vaccine.
    Savenkov added that companies from the US, Canada and Singapore have also "demonstrated interest."
    In May last year, Denmark culled 17 million minks over concerns the animals were spreading a mutated form of coronavirus.
    A new report from the World Health Organization has also said Covid-19 probably spread to people through an animal.
    Russia was the first country in the world last year to approve a coronavirus vaccine in humans, though its early rollout before Phase 3 trials had finished was criticized globally.
    Interim analysis of the Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine released in February suggests that it is 91.6% effective against symptomatic Covid-19 and 100% effective against severe and moderate disease.

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    Post  George1 Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:24 pm

    Sputnik V vaccine approved for emergency use in Kenya

    https://tass.com/world/1272749

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    Post  Nomad5891 Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:55 am

    LMFS wrote:
    Nomad5891 wrote:Putin got vaccinated the other day. Finally, I guess in a move to push Russians to do the same. Up to now he was one of the few country leaders who have not taken a vaccine, fueling the misthurst of his own citizens in Sputnik V.

    What is akward though is they don't want to disclose the name of the vaccine.  dunno

    Could you please stop parroting 5th column libtard talking points? You keep making shit up out of non issues

    Sure, should I also rise my left hand up in the sky while shouting ¨Long live Putin!¨ to my computer screen?

    GarryB wrote:Russia should fight lies and deception with the truth... gather together the actual results and publish the full truth... something the western drug companies don't seem that keen on publishing themselves. Most problems with the drugs has not been revealed by the company that makes the drug, but by the government agencies evaluating the drug for use.
    This has never been about the truth. Russia could have the cheapest, safest, most effective vaccine in the world (which I think they pretty much do now). Still, western establishment would never admit it.
    When there are money and power invovled things always turn into a dirty game.


    Is there any update on the possibility to manufacture Sputnik in EU (Germany and Italy)? This is the right way to aproach it I think- divide and conquer.
    The one shot Sputnik Lite is great news too. And this animal vaccine Russians did is the cherry of the cake. Good job!
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    Post  owais.usmani Fri Apr 09, 2021 5:36 pm

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-sputnik/germany-has-started-talks-for-sputnik-v-vaccine-health-minister-idUSKBN2BW16L

    BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany is currently negotiating with Russia on an advance purchase agreement of its Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine, Health Minister Jens Spahn said on Friday.

    Spahn told a news conference that the requirements were approval by the European Medicines Agency, as well as whether doses would be available within the next few months.

    “The crucial question for me is what will happen in the second or third quarter, because that makes a difference for the current phase of this vaccination campaign,” Spahn said.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:40 am

    This has never been about the truth. Russia could have the cheapest, safest, most effective vaccine in the world (which I think they pretty much do now). Still, western establishment would never admit it.

    That is true... and the zealots don't care.

    Those that despise Putin... because that is what they have been told to do by western media, wont care about whether Sputnik V works well or is in fact the best choice... the most rapid anti Putin people live in the west so their choice to take Sputnik V is limited anyway plus the propaganda is not just Putin is bad... it is also that our stuff is the best you can get... and if you have a seizure because of the Pfizer jab, no one will know because western media and social networks will not let your family talk about that... criticism of western vaccines is anti vax propaganda... if you have a seizure after taking Sputnik it would be the most important news since 11/9 attacks or Pearl Harbour was attacked by the Japanese.

    What will happen is that in 2 years time they will look back and list the results of the jabs and... oh... Sputnik V was actually effective and cheap with few side effects and 100% effective against severe corona virus infections that kill people anyway. The percentage that get the virus anyway have mild cases and don't need to be hospitalised... but it is like the Syrian gas attacks or the Skripals or Saddams WMDs... it does not matter that you find out later it was all western propaganda bullshit... there are no consequences... those anti assad and anti putin and anti russia nutters wont concede it didn't happen... look at the US democrats now, they still talk about Russian hackers in the 2016 US election... their own guy didn't find anything at all, but that does not matter because the truth does not matter.

    If they didn't do it... they wanted to... so they are our enemies... because they are just like us because we do that sort of shit when given the chance...

    But don't you love the irony... Putin does have people murdered... but they are actual terrorists like Chechen terrorists that murdered Children at Beslan... he woudn't waste his power killing political opponents... or ex spies... that is petty and pathetic... the sort of shit the west does all the time.

    People in the west believe the anti putin propaganda because the accusations of wrong doing generally is stuff the west does... stealing state funds, murdering people, going on holiday and taking off his shirt... which makes it amusing when it turns out the really bad things he is accused of doing.... even invading the Ukraine... there is no evidence... yet US troops are there.... HATO troops are there... US and HATO weapons are supplied to the Ukraine so they can bomb and shell their own people...

    The irony is that the people who hate Putin should hate the west because while he is not guilty of most of the crimes they accuse him of, the west certainly is, and as Putin rightly pointed out... when someone calls you names it is often names that apply better to themselves... when evidence appears... as Assange or Snowden or Manning, or many other CIA whistleblowers in prison or going to prison for revealing evidence of warcrimes by the WEST.

    No investigation into that evidence... there is no free press to hold the west accountable... ironically except for Russia Today, which is Americans in America reporting on stories in America... fully signed up as foreign agents...

    Is there any update on the possibility to manufacture Sputnik in EU (Germany and Italy)? This is the right way to aproach it I think- divide and conquer.
    The one shot Sputnik Lite is great news too. And this animal vaccine Russians did is the cherry of the cake. Good job!

    I think Germany is talking with the Russian company about production but only in the interests of speed... so probably not.

    They are like Russia talking to France over Mistral helicopter carriers... Russia went to France because it was a proven design that worked... an operational off the shelf solution that could both have been in service now with two more likely ordered.

    Germany has found it is seriously short of vaccines so its interests in Sputnik V is merely to plug gaps... if they can't get a lot in the next few months then they are not interested because production of other types will fill the gaps they have at the moment.

    They are waiting for EU approval of Sputnik V and I suspect they will take their own sweet time... but who cares about EU citizens dying in the mean time... what if Sputnik V turns your hear green or your heart red... or makes you not hate Putin so much... those sort of side effects will not be tolerated in the west...

    At first I thought the animal vaccine was a joke but seeing the Danish put down 15,000 minks with the virus I sort of realised the fixation the west has with their pets. Most Americans probably spend more on their pets than they do on helping the poor... that is a huge market... imagine the panic if someone suggested putting down all cats and dogs to protect people from the virus....

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    Post  Kiko Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:51 pm

    Russia starts developing another vaccine against coronavirus - Minister of Health
    Preliminary results may appear in the near future
    10.4.2021

    ST. PETERSBURG, April 10. /TASS/. Specialists from Smorodintsev Research Institute of Influenza under the Russian Ministry of Health is developing another vaccine against a coronavirus, preliminary results may appear in the near future, Russian Minister of Health Mikhail Murashko announced on Saturday.

    "The institution has a high scientific potential, there are both scientific, as well as production and research sites engaged in diagnostics. Today, another vaccine against the new coronavirus infection is being developed at this institute. We expect the first preliminary results ... in the near future," the minister said.

    Director of the Research Institute Dmitry Lioznov told reporters that the vaccine for intranasal use is made on the basis of the influenza virus. "So this is a similar technology with Sputnik V, but in this case the influenza virus is used. The effect will hopefully be as good as that of our other vaccines," he said, adding "Clinical trials are planned for this fall, so the drug will be available in winter - next spring at the earliest". Lioznov also hopes that the drug will help not only protect the population of Russia, but also other countries from the virus.

    Russia reported 4,632,688 coronavirus cases according to the federal operational headquarters for the fight against coronavirus, 4,258,279 people recovered, 102,649 died.

    In late December 2019, Chinese officials informed the World Health Organization (WHO) about the outbreak of a previously unknown pneumonia in the city of Wuhan, in central China. Since then, cases of the novel coronavirus - named COVID-19 by the WHO - have been reported in every corner of the globe, including Russia. On March 11, 2020, the WHO declared the coronavirus outbreak a pandemic.

    https://tass.com/society/1276401

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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:11 am

    Spoiled for choice... that really is an impressive third world gas station that doesn't make anything...
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    Post  Kiko Tue Apr 13, 2021 2:06 am

    This is important: India becomes 60th country to approve Sputnik V for emergency use.

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/140790/

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Apr 13, 2021 4:23 am

    GarryB wrote:Spoiled for choice... that really is an impressive third world gas station that doesn't make anything...

    Indeed. They've started bringing in the 2nd vaccine into St. Petersburg last week. So now we have an alternative to Sputnik V, for those like me who don't quite trust it's quick development period Wink

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