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    Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

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    Post  marat Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:01 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Somewhere between Armenia and Karabagh


    Are those Giancit 2A36 guns?

    And Scuds off course.

    Any info what shooted down that MI?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:09 am

    I'd say someone pointed and OSA into its general direction. And then it fell. The helicopter is badly blow and burnt. Big warhead.
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    Post  marat Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:14 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:I'd say someone pointed and OSA into its general direction. And then it fell. The helicopter is badly blow and burnt. Big warhead.
    Yes nothing like Mi24 downed in Ukraina.
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:23 am

    Azeri soldiers are beating their own civilians who are trying to leave their villages close to the conflict border.

    https://ok.ru/video/41493596815
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    Post  Khepesh Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:31 am

    marat wrote:

    Are those Giancit 2A36 guns?

    Yes, and probably half of all they have, so this movement is perhaps quite serious.
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:42 am

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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:52 am

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    Post  Godric Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:04 am

    this has to stop and Russia needs to step in and bang heads .... the only country that benefits from this is Turkey .... they seem hell bent in dragging Russia into a full scale war ... they are still hoping that Nato will step in on their side
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:10 am

    Also those Azeri Crocodiles use Belarussian/Ukrainian Skiff/Baryer ATGM...wtf?
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    Post  AttilaA Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:47 am

    TheArmenian wrote:Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict] - Page 6 6pLb8xc

    Laughing

    Are you aware that this directly confirms the claims of Azerbaijan, which Armenian Defence Ministry denied yesterday?

    Make no mistake, this is talking about today. And yesterday the Armenian Defence Ministry said that there was absolutely no such thing. Rolling Eyes

    In two new official statements today, Azerbaijani Defence Ministry retained the statements about gains in two different sections.

    The Armenian statement is an admittion of Azerbaijan's claims and the claim that all this was done with only two injured Armenian soldiers is laughable to say the least. As it stands, Azerbaijani side was right and it retains those new positions.


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    Post  Khepesh Sun Apr 03, 2016 11:52 am

    According to statement from Azeri defence ministry they are unilateraly stopping military operations, but if Armenia continues with its "provocations" then they will make a tough response. http://ria.ru/world/20160403/1401690753.html#ixzz44kjlxxwI
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:02 pm

    Khepesh wrote:According to statement from Azeri defence ministry they are unilateraly stopping military operations, but if Armenia continues with its "provocations" then they will make a tough response. http://ria.ru/world/20160403/1401690753.html#ixzz44kjlxxwI

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    If it is the Armenians attacking (As per Azeri claims), why would the Azeris decide to stop shooting?
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:04 pm

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    Post  Akula971 Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:04 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:According to statement from Azeri defence ministry they are unilateraly stopping military operations, but if Armenia continues with its "provocations" then they will make a tough response. http://ria.ru/world/20160403/1401690753.html#ixzz44kjlxxwI

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

    If it is the Armenians attacking (As per Azeri claims), why would the Azeris decide to stop shooting?

    This whole conflict smells of Turks.

    EDIT:

    30.03.2016:
    Kerry calls for ultimate resolutions of the conflict
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-azerbaijan-conflict-idUSKCN0WW2QB?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

    31.03.2016
    The conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan must be resolved based on United Nations Security Council (cont) - Ilham Aliyev
    https://twitter.com/presidentaz/status/715457266380619776

    02.04.2016:
    Azerbaijan launches attack. Shells civilians. Beheadings take place.

    03.04.2016:
    Azerbaijan gets BTFO'd, loses gains, manpower, machinery and *claims* ceasefire.

    Fresh reports of explosions in the NKR city.

    Let me know if i missed something.

    I think everyone is using Twitter as a source for this one. My contacts in either countries are using the media as the primary source of intel which aint telling much either.


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    Post  marat Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:32 pm

    AttilaA wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict] - Page 6 6pLb8xc

    Laughing

    Are you aware that this directly confirms the claims of Azerbaijan, which Armenian Defence Ministry denied yesterday?

    Make no mistake, this is talking about today. And yesterday the Armenian Defence Ministry said that there was absolutely no such thing. Rolling Eyes

    In two new official statements today, Azerbaijani Defence Ministry retained the statements about gains in two different sections.

    The Armenian statement is an admittion of Azerbaijan's claims and the claim that all this was done with only two injured Armenian soldiers is laughable to say the least. As it stands, Azerbaijani side was right and it retains those new positions.

    Same as Azerbaijan denied that they lost helicopter....
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    Post  AttilaA Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:49 pm

    It did not. And this statement was made before Armenians released the photos of Mi-24.

    http://mod.gov.az/index2.php?content=news/2016/20160402_melumat_cebheson

    And just two hours ago an Azerbaijani general spoke from newly liberated "Leletepe" on a live broadcast. The gains were made in two different directions, northeast and southeast of Karabakh. Armenian side confirmed both developments today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SuiqsIiuc


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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:51 pm

    Fresh reports speak of Azeri armor losses totaling 14 tanks and 5 APCs with the Armenian side loosing 1 tank thus far.

    http://razm.info/ru/8098#more-8098
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:59 pm

    There were 3 people on board the shot down Azeri Mi-24 helicopter.
    All perished.
    RIP

    Their names:
    Urfan Vəlizadə
    Təbriz Mustafazadə
    Bəkir Ismayılov
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    Post  George1 Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:20 pm

    Turkey is sided with Azerbaijan of course...

    Turkish Foreign Ministry Condemns Armenia's Actions in Nagorno-Karabakh

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160402/1037392040/ankara-armenia-nagorno-karabakh.html#ixzz44lGWnpXk
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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:40 pm

    Murad Gazdiev from RT is in Stepanakert (Capital of Karabagh Independent Republic)

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    Post  TheArmenian Sun Apr 03, 2016 1:55 pm

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    Post  AttilaA Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:09 pm

    And that proves what? His source is Armenian military, which had categorically denied those developments yesterday. And suddenly "remembered" today that Azerbaijan had seized those areas.
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    Post  zorobabel Sun Apr 03, 2016 2:28 pm

    Funny move by Azerbaijan. Attack, take some territory, then claim a unilateral ceasefire.
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    Post  marat Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:02 pm

    AttilaA wrote:It did not. And this statement was made before Armenians released the photos of Mi-24.

    http://mod.gov.az/index2.php?content=news/2016/20160402_melumat_cebheson

    And just two hours ago an Azerbaijani general spoke from newly liberated "Leletepe" on a live broadcast. The gains were made in two different directions, northeast and southeast of Karabakh. Armenian side confirmed both developments today.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SuiqsIiuc

    https://www.facebook.com/SputnikNews/photos/pb.357990416180.-2207520000.1459629974./10153969821111181/?type=3&theater
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:09 pm

    AttilaA wrote:
    TheArmenian wrote:Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict] - Page 6 6pLb8xc

    Laughing

    Are you aware that this directly confirms the claims of Azerbaijan, which Armenian Defence Ministry denied yesterday?

    Make no mistake, this is talking about today. And yesterday the Armenian Defence Ministry said that there was absolutely no such thing. Rolling Eyes

    In two new official statements today, Azerbaijani Defence Ministry retained the statements about gains in two different sections.

    The Armenian statement is an admittion of Azerbaijan's claims and the claim that all this was done with only two injured Armenian soldiers is laughable to say the least. As it stands, Azerbaijani side was right and it retains those new positions.

    Attila,

    Your "conclusions" can not be correct. The items of "evidence" that you are referring to obviously show that Azerbaijan initiated a surprise attack, went some distance in (not gained anything), and then Azerbaijani forces got annihilated after the Armenian counterattack.

    Also keep in mind that Azerbaijan claimed the news of the hostilities where false, and that there were no hostilities. What does that tell you about the reliability of Azerbaijani announcements?

    Additionally, According to statement from the Azeri defense ministry they are unilaterally stopping military operations, but if Armenia continues with its "provocations" then they will make a tough response. Come on ... This coming from the Azeri side is an unmistakable admission by them that the Azeri forces have probably suffered a relatively substantial defeat, and they are begging for a ceasefire.

    Armenian announcements may be 0.1% false, but you have to admit that the Azeri announcements seem to be 99.9% false.

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