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    Post  Backman Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:40 am

    They knew who did it and what happened. 

    November 9 2020 was the helicopter shoot down. [size=32]On 4 January 2021, military investigators announced that they are treating the incident as 'wilful murder," rather than the previous "death through negligence." [/size]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Russian_Mil_Mi-24_shootdown

    The ceasefire was announced the same day, Nov 9..
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    Post  GarryB Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:17 am

    America is both hated and feared. Russia is just hated but not feared.

    America is feared because they are selfish bastards who care for no one and nothing except themselves, and they will hang you out to dry if that suits them.

    If your interests match theirs they will be with you, but the instant they get a better offer or their interests change you are dropped like a hot rock.

    America has money and military power but if you didn't have to deal with them you wouldn't.

    Russia doesn't need to be feared... and it is better that they are not.

    It does not damage Russia if Armenia think they will get a better deal from the US... Russia can't even fly direct to Armenia without crossing Georgian or Turkish or Iranian or Azerbaijani airspace/territory, and it is not like they identify as being Russians like the people in Kaliningrad do. No land bridge to Kaliningrad but they can go by sea and air to get there.

    These deaths probably were a CIA provocation to try to upset Russia and get them to do something stupid to prolong the conflict... because the CIA thrives in conflict.

    The CIA will always be able to find patsies and those patsies will end up taking the fall.

    But in the end it is just another reason to isolate Russia and Russians from the US of Evil.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:16 am

    GarryB wrote:
    America is feared because they are selfish bastards who care for no one and nothing except themselves, and they will hang you out to dry if that suits them.

    To get a clue of how Russia is heated, it is enough to take a look at the map of Africa.
    Yeah, I know, reading the maps can be challenging to some, yet to find Africa!
    But I do have faith in people, so can't exclude the possibility that our doom&groom&whine team can rise high, and find it. Somehow, as a collective struggle or something.
    So, as we have the hard part resolved, have a map, and found Africa on it - it will be easy now!
    Make a red flag on every country there, that was more or less friendly to USSR on the peak of its might, let's say we talk 1980.
    Done?
    My men!
    Now, take a green flag, and stick it on every country more or less friendly to Russia, let's say in 2021.
    Done?
    Oh, my hero!
    And now, what do we see there?
    Oh ... oh ... oh oh oh ... weeeell ... Hmm hmm hmm...
    YES!
    The number of flags is different!
    And how is that?
    Twisted Evil  Laughing

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:22 pm

    @AliTahmizian
    Horrific reports surfacing on Telegram that Baku liquidated #Russia's deputy peacekeeping chief and his convoy b/c they were alerted to a massacre, reached the scene of its aftermath and photographed how Azeri forces had raped and mutilated bodies, including of children. #Artsakh
    Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict] - Page 37 F6tfPI9XoAAuQ8D?format=png&name=small
    https://twitter.com/AliTahmizian/status/1705564941065851281

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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:30 pm

    Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E wrote:@AliTahmizian
    Horrific reports surfacing on Telegram that Baku liquidated #Russia's deputy peacekeeping chief and his convoy b/c they were alerted to a massacre, reached the scene of its aftermath and photographed how Azeri forces had raped and mutilated bodies, including of children. #Artsakh

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6tfPI9XoAAuQ8D?format=png&name=small

    https://twitter.com/AliTahmizian/status/1705564941065851281

    A lot of dramatic Hollywood style noise coming from Armenians

    Too many decorations on this cake if you ask me


    Also, Armenia has a  fully equipped military and is not under threat of mass carpet bombing by entire continent if they use it so why are they letting Azerbaijan go shooting up NK if it's so important to them?

    And why do they think it's Russia's problem? Especially since even Armenia recognizes NK as Azeri sovereign territory

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Sep 23, 2023 8:57 pm

    Drama queens will be drama queens.
    Only this time, Azeris will make them the real queens.
    With no crown left, whatsoever.
    And Russkie will be able to do business as usual, finally.

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    Post  Hole Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:04 pm

    Not a word of condemnation from the glorious west on the rude actions of the police in Erevan.
    Well, they were trained by the US, so I´m surprised that they didn´t shoot the demonstrators.

    Armenia is a case for changing the rules of democratic elections. You can´t allow people living
    in far away countries to vote. The diaspora in the US and France supports Pussynyan, but they
    are so far away from Armenia that they won´t be hurt by his stupid decisions. And they only 
    blame Russia for everything.

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    Post  thegopnik Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:24 pm

    At this point I am not certain about what parts of Ukraine will be Russia, but Armenia will be an excuse to bring nuclear weapons closer to Russia. Azerbaijan is mini-turkey and its a shock they have not joined NATO yet. Is it just better for them to annex Armenia?
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:17 pm

    According to Twitter post:

    Ethnic Armenians have started to leave the capital of Nagorno-Karabakh Stepanakert en masse, a witness tells Reuters.

    It is expected that most of, if not all, the ethnic armenians will leave the region

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:38 pm

    Well, Armenian government has made everything in order to cause this.

    The population will have to remember this.

    After (it is a matter of when, not If) USA and Turkey will go belly up, the southern Caucasus will be split between Iran and Russia anyway.
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    Post  Backman Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:35 am

    thegopnik wrote:At this point I am not certain about what parts of Ukraine will be Russia, but Armenia will be an excuse to bring nuclear weapons closer to Russia. Azerbaijan is mini-turkey and its a shock they have not joined NATO yet. Is it just better for them to annex Armenia?

    They will have to colour devolution Aliev in order to do that. Long term, the US probably has plans to topple Aliev and Erdogan.

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    Post  GarryB Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:06 am

    Long term, the US probably has plans to topple Aliev and Erdogan.

    US has plans to topple everyone including itself, but their incompetence has led to Russia and China really getting a chance to get out from under their boot and for other countries to follow.

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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:30 pm

    Crime...

    https://tass.com/world/1682059

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    Post  franco Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:31 pm

    Yerevan. October 3. INTERFAX - The number of residents of Nagorno-Karabakh who entered the territory of Armenia has increased by almost 100 people, press secretary of the Prime Minister of Armenia Nazeli Baghdasaryan said.
    According to the latest data, 100 thousand 617 forcibly displaced persons entered Armenia from Nagorno-Karabakh,” Baghdasaryan said at a briefing on Tuesday.
    As of Monday evening, the number of residents of Nagorno-Karabakh who entered Armenia was 100 thousand 520 people.
    According to official data, about 120 thousand Armenians lived in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    On October 2, Baghdasaryan reported that the main flow of residents of Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia had stopped and that mainly officials remained there.
    There is no specific information about the Armenians remaining in Karabakh.
    On September 19-20, 2023, Azerbaijan conducted a military operation in the unrecognized Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh. During the hostilities, approximately 200 people were killed on each side, and several hundred more were injured.
    On September 24, the exodus of the Armenian population to the territory of Armenia began from Karabakh.
    The Armenian side promised that every displaced person, regardless of age, would receive one-time assistance in the amount of 100 thousand drams ($254), and another 50 thousand drams ($127) would also be paid to each displaced person, regardless of age, for housing rent and utility payments. The government of Armenia provides housing for citizens who do not have a predetermined place of residence.
    On September 28, NKR President Samvel Shahramanyan signed a decree on the termination of the existence of the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh) and on the dissolution of all government institutions. The population was invited to familiarize itself with the conditions of reintegration presented by Azerbaijan in order to make a further decision on the possibility of staying in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    On October 1, employees of the State Migration Service and the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Population of Azerbaijan began working in Karabakh in order to reintegrate the Armenian residents living in Karabakh into Azerbaijani society. They are busy receiving applications for pre-registration of Armenian residents of Karabakh.
    On October 2, the Azerbaijani presidential administration published the main directions of the plan for the reintegration of Armenian residents of the Karabakh region of the country.

    https://www-militarynews-ru.translate.goog/story.asp?rid=1&nid=603259&lang=RU&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:41 pm

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    🇦🇲🇦🇿🇷🇺 Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan today, at a meeting with the EU, Germany and France, signed a declaration in which he recognized Azerbaijan’s right to 86.6 thousand square meters. km, which includes Nagorno-Karabakh and part of Armenian territory.

    Back in May, we talked about Pashinyan’s plans to give back the villages of Baganis-Ayrum , Nerkin Voskepar , Verin Voskepar , Barkhudarly , Sofulu and Tigranashen , occupied by Armenians and assimilated after the First Karabakh War.

    Of course, all the Prime Minister’s previous arguments about the need to exchange villages for historical Armenian lands are no longer relevant - the Armenian authorities are in a hurry to implement a plan to squeeze Russia out of Transcaucasia.

    🔻 Today’s agreement is important because the road to Georgia through Ijevan passes through the villages in the Tavush region. And the important transport artery M2 passes through Tigranashen. The highway is used as a logistics route connecting not only the north and south of Armenia in the Syunik region, but also Russia and Iran .

    Along with the implementation of the Zangezur corridor project and the cutting off of Russia in the south, which de facto also involves the loss of Armenian territories, Western countries, which fully control the Armenian leadership, are taking control of other alternative routes. It would be reckless to think that they will stop there.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:57 pm

    I am really quite surprised the refugees from NK have not armed them selvess and killed the Armenian president. He cost them everything they had, everything. And he got absolutely NOTHING in return. Once he ceded soverignty, Russia had no right to intervene.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:18 am

    mnztr wrote:I am really quite surprised the refugees from NK have not armed them selvess and killed the Armenian president. He cost them everything they had, everything. And he got absolutely NOTHING in return. Once he ceded soverignty, Russia had no right to intervene.

    Armenians are useless.

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    Post  kvs Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:08 am

    They are like all the other limitrophes. Too busy hating on Russia due to an inadequacy complex to react to the ass reaming they are getting from NATzO.
    The way the limitrophes behave you would think they were all slaves in the USSR. In reality, they typically lived better than average Russians.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:53 am

    It was damn obvious that Pashinyan wanted to leave the Armenians in Karabakh to the wolves so they can claim "no territory disputes" so they can get into NATO and EU. Except turkey won't let them in NATO and both Iran and Azerbaijan won't want them in so they will make Armenias life difficult.

    Armenians blame Russia for their problems. I'm actually curious what makes it russias fault?

    Was Russia supposed to overthrow Pashinyan?

    Was Russia supposed to ignore Armenias position on Karabakh and protect the region even those Armenians who blame Russia don't raise a finger to go after their own leadership?

    Was Russia supposed to just declare war on Azerbaijan even though Armenia didn't do it?

    There is more but seriously, Armenians really test the mental intellect of others with their nonsense especially since they are the ones who elected the leader who is fucjing it all up for them.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:34 am

    sepheronx wrote:It was damn obvious that Pashinyan wanted to leave the Armenians in Karabakh to the wolves so they can claim "no territory disputes" so they can get into NATO and EU. Except turkey won't let them in NATO and both Iran and Azerbaijan won't want them in so they will make Armenias life difficult.

    Armenians blame Russia for their problems. I'm actually curious what makes it russias fault?

    Was Russia supposed to overthrow Pashinyan?

    Was Russia supposed to ignore Armenias position on Karabakh and protect the region even those Armenians who blame Russia don't raise a finger to go after their own leadership?

    Was Russia supposed to just declare war on Azerbaijan even though Armenia didn't do it?

    There is more but seriously, Armenians really test the mental intellect of others with their nonsense especially since they are the ones who elected the leader who is fucjing it all up for them.

    Possibly when they f*** up things more (especially if turkey in the future will go belly up) Armenia and Azerbaijan territories could be split between Russia and Iran (like Nachivichan to Iran, eastern Azerbaijan (next to the Caspian sea to Russia) and the rest to be decided later (with navgorno karabach as a sort of Armenian protectorate inside Russia independent from the rest of Armenia).

    At the moment Russia does not have any reason or justification to intervene in the region, but if things change it would not be a bad outcome to have Baku back into russian control and a direct land connection to Iran without having some pro Turkish or proamerican countries in the middle between them.

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    Post  Hole Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:15 pm

    Armenians really test the mental intellect
    Problem for the Armenians inside Armenia is the right to take part in elections for all those
    "Armenians" living in the US and France. They are the electorate of Pashynian.

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    Post  Firebird Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:20 pm

    There are articles floating around the web concerning the Caspian Sea corridor.
    The usual vermin in America are behind it. But with partners in Kazakstan, Armenia AND Azerbaijan.

    Almost ironic. "Bitter enemies" Arm and Azerb are joining together as American's bitches to try and **** over Russia.

    Basically allowing China and other Eurasian places to send stuff to Europe without going via Russia.
    Russia needs to stop this shit and stop it now.

    Russia seems to be useless at countering American coups.
    Its easier to have a counter coup or stop a coup than have to fight a major war 5, 10 yrs down the line.
    I cannot understand Russia's tactics here.

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:38 am

    Pashinyan and Aliev "agreed to continue peace negotiations"...

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    A picture tells a thousand words Razz Razz Razz Razz

    Aliev is grinning like a cheshire cat, while Pashinyan is unhappy with the size of the pineapple he has been told to shove up his rear. Scholz has no fcking idea what is going on, he is just happy to have a moment of relevency and to forget about the economic meltdown at home and collapse of his Ukraine project.

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:59 am

    Russia is "useless" at countering NATzO instigated coups because it cannot leverage the delusion of the limitrophe statelet populations.
    The magic that the US and its minions have is that losers around the world think that they will live the easy life if they crawl up their
    ass. Ukraine is a prime example of this mass formation retardation.

    Russia does not need Chinese goods transit. Let them build bypass corridors.

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    Post  Hole Sun Feb 18, 2024 12:54 pm

    Russia could point to the South. Look what happened to the Africans and South-Americans.
    But the people wouldn´t believe it. This time the west will treat us differently!  Rolling Eyes

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