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    Azerbaijan vs Armenia [Nagorno-Karabakh conflict]

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    Post  GarryB Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:06 am

    Long term, the US probably has plans to topple Aliev and Erdogan.

    US has plans to topple everyone including itself, but their incompetence has led to Russia and China really getting a chance to get out from under their boot and for other countries to follow.

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    Post  George1 Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:30 pm

    Crime...

    https://tass.com/world/1682059

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    Post  franco Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:31 pm

    Yerevan. October 3. INTERFAX - The number of residents of Nagorno-Karabakh who entered the territory of Armenia has increased by almost 100 people, press secretary of the Prime Minister of Armenia Nazeli Baghdasaryan said.
    According to the latest data, 100 thousand 617 forcibly displaced persons entered Armenia from Nagorno-Karabakh,” Baghdasaryan said at a briefing on Tuesday.
    As of Monday evening, the number of residents of Nagorno-Karabakh who entered Armenia was 100 thousand 520 people.
    According to official data, about 120 thousand Armenians lived in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    On October 2, Baghdasaryan reported that the main flow of residents of Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia had stopped and that mainly officials remained there.
    There is no specific information about the Armenians remaining in Karabakh.
    On September 19-20, 2023, Azerbaijan conducted a military operation in the unrecognized Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh. During the hostilities, approximately 200 people were killed on each side, and several hundred more were injured.
    On September 24, the exodus of the Armenian population to the territory of Armenia began from Karabakh.
    The Armenian side promised that every displaced person, regardless of age, would receive one-time assistance in the amount of 100 thousand drams ($254), and another 50 thousand drams ($127) would also be paid to each displaced person, regardless of age, for housing rent and utility payments. The government of Armenia provides housing for citizens who do not have a predetermined place of residence.
    On September 28, NKR President Samvel Shahramanyan signed a decree on the termination of the existence of the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh (Artsakh) and on the dissolution of all government institutions. The population was invited to familiarize itself with the conditions of reintegration presented by Azerbaijan in order to make a further decision on the possibility of staying in Nagorno-Karabakh.
    On October 1, employees of the State Migration Service and the Ministry of Labor and Social Protection of the Population of Azerbaijan began working in Karabakh in order to reintegrate the Armenian residents living in Karabakh into Azerbaijani society. They are busy receiving applications for pre-registration of Armenian residents of Karabakh.
    On October 2, the Azerbaijani presidential administration published the main directions of the plan for the reintegration of Armenian residents of the Karabakh region of the country.

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    Post  sepheronx Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:41 pm

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    🇦🇲🇦🇿🇷🇺 Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan today, at a meeting with the EU, Germany and France, signed a declaration in which he recognized Azerbaijan’s right to 86.6 thousand square meters. km, which includes Nagorno-Karabakh and part of Armenian territory.

    Back in May, we talked about Pashinyan’s plans to give back the villages of Baganis-Ayrum , Nerkin Voskepar , Verin Voskepar , Barkhudarly , Sofulu and Tigranashen , occupied by Armenians and assimilated after the First Karabakh War.

    Of course, all the Prime Minister’s previous arguments about the need to exchange villages for historical Armenian lands are no longer relevant - the Armenian authorities are in a hurry to implement a plan to squeeze Russia out of Transcaucasia.

    🔻 Today’s agreement is important because the road to Georgia through Ijevan passes through the villages in the Tavush region. And the important transport artery M2 passes through Tigranashen. The highway is used as a logistics route connecting not only the north and south of Armenia in the Syunik region, but also Russia and Iran .

    Along with the implementation of the Zangezur corridor project and the cutting off of Russia in the south, which de facto also involves the loss of Armenian territories, Western countries, which fully control the Armenian leadership, are taking control of other alternative routes. It would be reckless to think that they will stop there.

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    Post  mnztr Thu Nov 02, 2023 11:57 pm

    I am really quite surprised the refugees from NK have not armed them selvess and killed the Armenian president. He cost them everything they had, everything. And he got absolutely NOTHING in return. Once he ceded soverignty, Russia had no right to intervene.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Nov 03, 2023 12:18 am

    mnztr wrote:I am really quite surprised the refugees from NK have not armed them selvess and killed the Armenian president. He cost them everything they had, everything. And he got absolutely NOTHING in return. Once he ceded soverignty, Russia had no right to intervene.

    Armenians are useless.

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    Post  kvs Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:08 am

    They are like all the other limitrophes. Too busy hating on Russia due to an inadequacy complex to react to the ass reaming they are getting from NATzO.
    The way the limitrophes behave you would think they were all slaves in the USSR. In reality, they typically lived better than average Russians.

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    Post  sepheronx Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:53 am

    It was damn obvious that Pashinyan wanted to leave the Armenians in Karabakh to the wolves so they can claim "no territory disputes" so they can get into NATO and EU. Except turkey won't let them in NATO and both Iran and Azerbaijan won't want them in so they will make Armenias life difficult.

    Armenians blame Russia for their problems. I'm actually curious what makes it russias fault?

    Was Russia supposed to overthrow Pashinyan?

    Was Russia supposed to ignore Armenias position on Karabakh and protect the region even those Armenians who blame Russia don't raise a finger to go after their own leadership?

    Was Russia supposed to just declare war on Azerbaijan even though Armenia didn't do it?

    There is more but seriously, Armenians really test the mental intellect of others with their nonsense especially since they are the ones who elected the leader who is fucjing it all up for them.

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    Post  Rodion_Romanovic Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:34 am

    sepheronx wrote:It was damn obvious that Pashinyan wanted to leave the Armenians in Karabakh to the wolves so they can claim "no territory disputes" so they can get into NATO and EU. Except turkey won't let them in NATO and both Iran and Azerbaijan won't want them in so they will make Armenias life difficult.

    Armenians blame Russia for their problems. I'm actually curious what makes it russias fault?

    Was Russia supposed to overthrow Pashinyan?

    Was Russia supposed to ignore Armenias position on Karabakh and protect the region even those Armenians who blame Russia don't raise a finger to go after their own leadership?

    Was Russia supposed to just declare war on Azerbaijan even though Armenia didn't do it?

    There is more but seriously, Armenians really test the mental intellect of others with their nonsense especially since they are the ones who elected the leader who is fucjing it all up for them.

    Possibly when they f*** up things more (especially if turkey in the future will go belly up) Armenia and Azerbaijan territories could be split between Russia and Iran (like Nachivichan to Iran, eastern Azerbaijan (next to the Caspian sea to Russia) and the rest to be decided later (with navgorno karabach as a sort of Armenian protectorate inside Russia independent from the rest of Armenia).

    At the moment Russia does not have any reason or justification to intervene in the region, but if things change it would not be a bad outcome to have Baku back into russian control and a direct land connection to Iran without having some pro Turkish or proamerican countries in the middle between them.

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    Post  Hole Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:15 pm

    Armenians really test the mental intellect
    Problem for the Armenians inside Armenia is the right to take part in elections for all those
    "Armenians" living in the US and France. They are the electorate of Pashynian.

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    Post  Firebird Fri Nov 03, 2023 1:20 pm

    There are articles floating around the web concerning the Caspian Sea corridor.
    The usual vermin in America are behind it. But with partners in Kazakstan, Armenia AND Azerbaijan.

    Almost ironic. "Bitter enemies" Arm and Azerb are joining together as American's bitches to try and **** over Russia.

    Basically allowing China and other Eurasian places to send stuff to Europe without going via Russia.
    Russia needs to stop this shit and stop it now.

    Russia seems to be useless at countering American coups.
    Its easier to have a counter coup or stop a coup than have to fight a major war 5, 10 yrs down the line.
    I cannot understand Russia's tactics here.

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