Israeli–Palestinian conflict:

ahmedfire wrote:Tanks transporting vehicle was hit by Hamas .

PapaDragon wrote:
This is all about who runs out of missiles first

If Palestinians run dry first then it's over

If Israelis run out of interceptors (which can't be slapped together as fast as dumb rockets Palestinians use) then Israel will start taking massive damage and will be forced to go for land invasion to try and cut it off at the source (that or carpet bombing or both)

Question is do they have enough Iron Dome dakka stored away for rainy days?

PapaDragon wrote:
This is all about who runs out of missiles first

If Palestinians run dry first then it's over

If Israelis run out of interceptors (which can't be slapped together as fast as dumb rockets Palestinians use) then Israel will start taking massive damage and will be forced to go for land invasion to try and cut it off at the source (that or carpet bombing or both)

Question is do they have enough Iron Dome dakka stored away for rainy days?

elconquistador wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:
This is all about who runs out of missiles first

If Palestinians run dry first then it's over

If Israelis run out of interceptors (which can't be slapped together as fast as dumb rockets Palestinians use) then Israel will start taking massive damage and will be forced to go for land invasion to try and cut it off at the source (that or carpet bombing or both)

Question is do they have enough Iron Dome dakka stored away for rainy days?

It's not the rockets, it's the launchpads

flamming_python wrote:The Israelis can't target the launchpads efficiently, they're moved around through underground tunnels and onto the tops of buildings...

PapaDragon wrote:

flamming_python wrote:The Israelis can't target the launchpads efficiently, they're moved around through underground tunnels and onto the tops of buildings...

Well that ain't kosher

You don't get to complain about buildings getting blown up when you do a no-no like this


Still it will be interesting to see who runs out first, this latest kerfufle wasn't planned in advance by either side so we will see who was better at saving for the rainy days

PapaDragon wrote:

flamming_python wrote:The Israelis can't target the launchpads efficiently, they're moved around through underground tunnels and onto the tops of buildings...

Well that ain't kosher

You don't get to complain about buildings getting blown up when you do a no-no like this


Still it will be interesting to see who runs out first, this latest kerfufle wasn't planned in advance by either side so we will see who was better at saving for the rainy days

lancelot wrote:I think the chance that was happening is about as likely as that TV station in Belgrade HATO bombed being used for radar tracking.
It is just a way to shut the media up and control the narrative.

flamming_python wrote:
The Israelis can't target the launchpads efficiently, they're moved around through underground tunnels and onto the tops of buildings or into some camouflaged bushes or whatever; fired off, and then withdrawn

The Israelis can target the tunnels themselves and they have been. As well as targeting buildings, which is as stupid as targeting bushes, but they in their mindset, have to 'enact the price' or 'show strength' to Hamas somehow.

EDIT: Screw it, I'll spare the civilizational lessons

Egypt to allocate $500 mln for Gaza rebuilding effort: Presidency .

Egyptian companies will also participate in rebuilding operations, the statement added in an announcement that came following a meeting between President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, French President Emmanuel Macron and Jordan’s King Abdullah in Paris.

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2021/05/18/Egypt-to-allocate-500-mln-for-Gaza-rebuilding-effort-Presidency

Egypt allocates 165 ambulances, 11 hospitals to transfer, receive injured Palestinians from Gaza

Egypt announced on Monday allocating a total of 165 ambulances and 11 hospitals for the treatment of the Palestinians injured due to the Israeli aggression on Gaza, which claimed the lives of dozens of Palestinians.

Health Minister Hala Zayed reviewed with Prime Minister Mostafa Madbouly the state's plan to transfer and support the injured Palestinians coming from Gaza, amid the week-long aggression on the strip.

In a Cabinet meeting with Prime Minister Mostafa Madbouli, Zayed said the ministry has allocated 165 ambulances to transfer the injured Palestinians, including 50 equipped with intensive care units and ventilators.
There will be 65 ambulances that work in the North Sinai cities and the remaining 50 ambulances will act as a backup, Zayed said.

Hospitals that would receive and treat the injured Palestinians are based on three support lines; which are the hospitals of North Sinai, the hospitals of Ismailia and the hospitals of Greater Cairo, Zayed said.

Three hospitals in North Sinai will receive the injured Palestinians with a total of 288 beds in addition to 81 ICU beds and 233 doctors, according to Zayed.

Two hospitals in Ismailia will also receive the injured Gaza citizens with a total of 385 beds and 85 ICU beds and 1,145 doctors and nurses.

In Greater Cairo, six hospitals will receive the patients with a total of 784 beds, 179 ICU beds and 3,606 doctors and nurses.
Cases coming from Gaza through the Rafah Crossing will be transferred to the Sheikh Zuweid hospital in North Sinai in case they require urgent medical intervention.

They will then be moved to the El-Arish General Hospital and Bir El-Abd Central Hospital in North Sinai, Zayed noted.

Patients whose cases are highly serious will be kept at the Sheikh Zuweid hospital and will be reevaluated.

The operations room and the central chamber in North Sinai is in charge of transferring the injured Palestinians to the Cairo and Ismailia hospitals, Zayed said.
Zayed said the health directorates in North Sinai and Ismailia have been supported by an exceptional batch of medicine and emergency equipment that would be sufficient over the next three months.

Also, the state of preparedness has been raised in the regional blood bank in Arish to supply the hospitals with donated blood and its derivatives, Zayed said.

The ministry also coordinated with the regional blood bank in Ismailia to provide a reserve of donated blood and its derivatives when required.

https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1/104010/Egypt-allocates-165-ambulances-11-hospitals-to-transfer-receive-injured

Meanwhile it's becoming nothing but silly to monitor the 'performance' of the 'best air force of the World'.

According to its own official releases, the IASF has struck literal dozens of 'command and control centres' in the Gaza Stip over the last 24 hours. Certainly enough, 0 evidence was provided for even one of objects in question being anything of that kind: some were residences of diverse Palestinian civilian- and military officials, no dobut. But, the rest....?

...which is raising the question of WTF is the IASF actually targeting?

Well, it could be the IDF and the IASF are not 'directly' targeting such places, but the WHO says that the Israeli attacks have 'damaged at least 18 hospitals and clinics and destroyed one health facility'.

The later was the Gaza's only laboratory for testing the CORONA-virus. Thus, one is left to conclude: first the Israelis exterminate the top ranks of the Palestinian anti-COVID campaign, and then their primary facility, too, so that nobody and nothing is left to care about the pandemics.

Furthermore, over the last 24 hours, the best air force in the World and the best Navy in the World have knocked out (between others):

- the building of the Qatari Red Crescent (there is simply no doubt the Israelis have targeted it, and they knew what's in that building);
- one desalinisation plant (used to provide drinking water for 250,000 people);
- Gaza's biggest library, and
- a refugee camp in which 11 children treated for trauma from all the bombardment were massacred...

Unsurprisingly, director of B'Tselem (leading Israeli HR-organisation) is meanwhile openly talking not only about 'disproportional attacks', but _war crimes_.

(Just some food for thoughts: from that POV, anybody supporting such 'military' operations is complicit in war crimes, too....)

For those who might be concerned that the IDF is going to run out of ammo: don't worry, Biden is going to get through his sale of PGMs worth $735 million to Israel, signed on 5 May. The few representatives in the Congress that just considered the option of complaining, are meanwhile all zip-lip.

In turn, during 18 May, the QBs of Hamas and the PIJ have reported multiple rocket strikes on no less than _six_ IASF air bases, including:
- Hatzor
- Hatzerim
- Nevatim
- Tel Nof
- Palmachim, and
- Ramon, plus one ammunition storage facility somewhere between Ashdod and Ashkelon.

With other words: yes, they do try to strike military targets - they did so at least nine times yesterday alone (thus spending most of their 300+ rockets fired over the last 24 hours 'just' for this purpose) - and this is confirmed by the attached map, showing a string of 'red alerts' for rocket strikes leding in direction of the double-air base of Hatzerim, west of Beersheba, and Nevatim, east of Beersheba, just for example.

Is there evidence any of these air bases was hit? No. The Israeli military censorship is never going to confirm anything of this: that would legitimise what the Palestinians are actually doing (even if, yes, and as already discussed: the mass of their rockets are either misisng their targets, or shot down, while a few are certainly striking civilian objects, and have killed two civilians, yesterday).

https://www.facebook.com/keksifarm.hayday/posts/2885259291744631

Yugo90 wrote:It's really amazing how well equipped is Hamass. I thought they don't even have bullets for war...