




nomadski wrote:@magnumcromagnus
Why these pictures show no smoke? There was a lot of smoke on TV. Are all these storage tanks empty? Also the pictures do reveal who did this. If pictures are real. The reason is position of impacts. Indicating position of travel of missile. Since highly unlikely attacker would do terminal manouver to hit from different direction to hide identity. So position indicates where fired from. Can you put compass on map? Looks like West, south west.
So the Yanks and Co, must admit that air war against Yemen failed. Saudi faces defeat. No question. To possibly subdue the Yemen, they need ground troops. How many? At least as many as they needed in Iraq. And the extent of Saudi ground troop streangth, is a imited engagement, resulting in eight dead Saudi troop. Pathetic. So ground troop must be yank. And if they have no such intention, then accept failed policy and stop air war against Yemen.
Isos wrote:The "hits" in the first picture don't seem to be hits. Too clean, too much identical abd there is sign of explosion behind.
The other destroyed things are made in many copies. It's something like 1 or 2 out 10 destroyed. It's hard to believed such attack destroyed 50% of their capacity to produce oil.
It seems saoudis or US emplified the attack to have a reason to attack Iran.
medo wrote:nomadski wrote:@magnumcromagnus
Why these pictures show no smoke? There was a lot of smoke on TV. Are all these storage tanks empty? Also the pictures do reveal who did this. If pictures are real. The reason is position of impacts. Indicating position of travel of missile. Since highly unlikely attacker would do terminal manouver to hit from different direction to hide identity. So position indicates where fired from. Can you put compass on map? Looks like West, south west.
So the Yanks and Co, must admit that air war against Yemen failed. Saudi faces defeat. No question. To possibly subdue the Yemen, they need ground troops. How many? At least as many as they needed in Iraq. And the extent of Saudi ground troop streangth, is a imited engagement, resulting in eight dead Saudi troop. Pathetic. So ground troop must be yank. And if they have no such intention, then accept failed policy and stop air war against Yemen.
Houties use cruise missiles. They could program their path and write coordinates of targets in them. Flypath from northwest could only show, they use longer path to avoid detection. Why there was no smoke? Most probably fire was under high pressure and smoke was forming far away from objects.
yavar wrote:
ABC News: Iran fired cruise missiles in attack on Saudi oil facility: Senior U.S. official
kvs wrote:medo wrote:nomadski wrote:@magnumcromagnus
Why these pictures show no smoke? There was a lot of smoke on TV. Are all these storage tanks empty? Also the pictures do reveal who did this. If pictures are real. The reason is position of impacts. Indicating position of travel of missile. Since highly unlikely attacker would do terminal manouver to hit from different direction to hide identity. So position indicates where fired from. Can you put compass on map? Looks like West, south west.
So the Yanks and Co, must admit that air war against Yemen failed. Saudi faces defeat. No question. To possibly subdue the Yemen, they need ground troops. How many? At least as many as they needed in Iraq. And the extent of Saudi ground troop streangth, is a imited engagement, resulting in eight dead Saudi troop. Pathetic. So ground troop must be yank. And if they have no such intention, then accept failed policy and stop air war against Yemen.
Houties use cruise missiles. They could program their path and write coordinates of targets in them. Flypath from northwest could only show, they use longer path to avoid detection. Why there was no smoke? Most probably fire was under high pressure and smoke was forming far away from objects.
Hold your horses, dude. The photos are from a remote location that would have intersected any smoke plume. Also, we are not dealing with a hydrogen flame, but a hydrocarbon flame. Given
the function of this facility, the spectrum from heavy to light HC molecules is very large. So there would be both smoke and fire at the storage tank rupture. And it would be thick black smoke due to
incomplete combustion routine for such fires. This is not a petroleum gas facility like the one that blew up in Mexico during the 1970s. That facility had a light, highly flammable oil fractions that
did not burn and produce black smoke, but was basically a fuel-air bomb that leveled the entire facility. There is no evidence of catastrophic explosion in this Saudi incident.
These photos raise more questions than the answer. Looks like a doctored set aimed at non-experts and aimed at false-flagging a war on Iran.
medo wrote:
There are also just holes in objects and no traces of explosions. Could be, that Houties take warhead out and replace it with additional fuel for longer flypath. To burn rafinery they don't need exploding warhead.
yavar wrote:Saudi Col al-Maliki spokesman for Islamic NATO alliance press conference claim of evidence Iran attack on Aramco oil-processing facility Abqaiq
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/18/saudi-oil-attack-rouhani-dismisses-us-claims-of-iran-role-as-slander
3 Saudi brigades fell in hands of Yemen’s Houthi fighters in Najran south of Saudi Arabia.
Hundreds killed/injured and detained. A huge quantity of weapon including armored vehicles. Saudi senior officers among the war prisoners.
The operation is the biggest ever.
https://twitter.com/narrabyee/status/1177950290852618240
The MBDA VL MICA (Missile d’interception et de combat aérien, “Interception and Aerial Combat Missile”) is an anti-air multi-target, all weather, fire-and-forget short and medium-range missile system. It is intended for use both by air platforms as individual missiles as well as ground units and ships, which can be equipped with the rapid fire VL MICA Vertical Launch System. VL MICA provides an optimum level of defence against a wide range of targets, including fixed-wing aircraft, helicopters and UAVs. Moreover, its characteristics (fire-and-forget guidance, vertical launch) make it particularly effective against saturation attacks carried out by a large number of low signature targets such as guided bombs or missiles and cruise missiles attacking from any direction (360° coverage). Thanks to its range and altitude, VL MICA’s performance in providing area defence, the protection of highly sensitive civilian or military assets as well as cover for manoeuvring land forces is unmatched by any other low-level air defence system.
Cyberspec wrote:Looks like the Saudis have just suffered their biggest defeat so far....
3 Saudi brigades fell in hands of Yemen’s Houthi fighters in Najran south of Saudi Arabia.
Hundreds killed/injured and detained. A huge quantity of weapon including armored vehicles. Saudi senior officers among the war prisoners.
The operation is the biggest ever.
https://twitter.com/narrabyee/status/1177950290852618240
Video
https://twitter.com/i/status/1177954371461681152
What the Houthis really need to do is launch some missiles at the presidential palace. Of course, that would make a war in the Middle East pretty much inevitable.
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