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    Post  M60TM Sun May 28, 2017 8:47 am

    TEHRAN (Tasnim) – Members of the Party for Free Life in Kurdistan (PJAK) terrorist group killed two Iranian border guards and injured five others in an armed clash in northwest of Iran.

    A gunfight occurred on Saturday evening between Iranian Police forces serving at Oroumiyeh border regiment and PJAK militants northwest of Iran.

    According to reports, troops from ‘Ziyaee’ border company came under attack as they were moving along the border for a routine changing of guards.

    The clash resulted in the martyrdom of Major Mohammad Reza Firouzi, commander of the company, and Warrant Officer Mohammad Reza Farahi.

    Five other soldiers were injured in the attack.

    PJAK is an offshoot of the internationally-recognized terrorist group, the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), which conducts deadly operations in western Iran, northern Iraq and southern Turkey.

    PJAK terrorists regularly engage in armed clashes with Iranian security forces along the country's western shared border with Iraq's semi-autonomous Kurdistan region.

    Two Iranian Border Guards Killed in Clash with PJAK Terrorists
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    Post  ATLASCUB Sun May 28, 2017 10:50 pm

    Not much of a problem for Iran for now. The Kurds will be an issue as long as U.S presence and influence in the region stays strong. They get inspired of sorts...

    That's why, and I'll say it for a billionth time.... a Kurd autonomous region/mini-country is bad news for everyone there.

    I'm always a bit confused as to Russia's position on the Kurds. On the one hand the Kurds can be used to potentially split up Turkey/burn it in a civil war and make it an insignificant foe once and for all...on the other, it destabilizes the region and seeks refuge in U.S skirt = military bases and forward deployments = guaranteed U.S presence in the region on yet another plot of land. So what's the benefit of sticking it to Turkey and having the replacement be just as bad on the geostrategic side? Obviously working under that assumption....

    The alternative is Russia opposed to anything of this sort and just dealing with reality to sort out the Syrian conflict.
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    Post  M60TM Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:10 am

    PJAK (PKK's Iran-wing) offers Iranians to fight together against the Iranian government. The statement says, they have already launched a "struggle".
    https://twitter.com/op_shield/status/947170482150871044
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    Post  par far Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:53 pm

    I think Iran knew that this was coming(at least to some extent), after losing in Syria and Iraq, the Zionists failed to curb Iranian influence. So now they will use the Kurds against Iran. There is a side effect to this that the Zionists have over looked, this will push Syria and Iraq more closer to Iran and Russia. This will also bring Turkey(they cannot be fully trusted) and other regional countries closer to Iran and Russia.

    The Kurds and the ongoing protests are all part of the Zionist plan against Iran, Iran has to play smart here. First, take care of the protests, use force where ever needed and clam them with, saying that the poverty and economic situation will be taken care and people should return to their houses, than announce that a part of the GDP(this does not need to be big), will be put towards reducing poverty, improving the economy for the poor and getting more jobs for the poor(this should be able to calm down the situation.) Than go after the leaders and organizers of these protests(identify the main the culprits) and expose them to the Country and the World.

    After the protest situation has calmed down, go after the terrorist groups that are a threat to Iran, does not matter if they are inside Iran, on Iran's borders or far away from Iran, send them a message.

    If Iran was smart they would ask for Russia's help(I am sure that Russia would be more than willing to help and the Russian intelligence agencies can gain valuable experience from this.)
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    Post  M60TM Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:10 am

    Kurdish armed group claims attack that killed at least 3 Iranian security forces
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    Post  par far Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:25 pm

    "On September 8, heavy Iranian rockets stuck the headquarters of two Iranian Kurdish opposition parties, the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI) and the Democratic Party of Iranian Kurdistan (PDKI) in the northern Iraqi town of Koya."

    The KDPI said that the Iranian rocket strike targeted a conference held by the political office of the party and a nearby refugee camp. According to the Kurdish group, 11 people were killed and up to 30 others were wounded in the rocket strike. Kurdish activists revealed that most of the casualties were members and officials of the KDPI and the PDKI.

    Meanwhile, Babak Taghvaee, an Iranian defense analyst, said that the Iranian-made Zelzal precision guided artillery rockets and an unspecified type of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) were used in the attack on the Kurdish parties in Koya. The rockets were reportedly launched by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) from a large base in the southern part of Iran.

    Several Iranian activists said that the rocket strike was a response to a recent attack of the PDKI, in which several personnel of the Iran Border Guard were killed. The PDKI and the KDPI were planning to launch more attacks in the upcoming days, according to the activists.

    The Iranian rocket strike was also viewed as a show of force and a message to the country’s enemies, especially that the rockets hit its targets with an impressive precision."



    https://southfront.org/iranian-rockets-hit-iranian-kurdish-opposition-group-base-in-northern-iraq-videos/

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    Post  ATLASCUB Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:37 pm

    Keep them honest. Although they won't give up hope as long as the U.S gives them hope.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:52 pm

    More on the attack. Video at https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1038457280868610048


    Babak Taghvaee
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    #BREAKING: #Iran|ian media was talking about use of Fajr-5C rockets by #IRGC against the #PDKI HQ in #Koya, N. #Iraq today. But according to this video which shows launch of the rockets from NW. #Iran, they were Zelzal precision guided artillery rockets which have solid fuel.




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    #BREAKING: It is now confirmed that 8 Fadjr-5C precision guided artillery rockets are launched at #PDKI HQ in #Koya, N. #Iraq destroying the building killing 5 of #PDKI leaders. Rockets were launched from #Hamzeh garrison of #IRGC NW. #Iran & were guided by 2 Mohajer-6 UCAVs.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:26 am

    Update


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    It seems, that Iranian missile strike struck a huge blow one of the separatist Kurdish group - KDP-I. Around 40 members of KDP-I discussed preparations for party congress when first Iranian missiles struck building. 14 dead, others buried under rubble.



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    So it seems modern Iranian SRBMs are indeed precision-guided and capable of hitting point targets, as advertised. A huge problem for Israel in case of a new war vs Hezbollah..


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    Post  JohninMK Mon Sep 10, 2018 1:01 am


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    Dutchman ????????@vvanwilgenburg (Pro Kurdistan) confirms that the #Iran/ian missile operation to destroy the PDKI HQs was a complete success, despite some claims of anti Iran entities like Babak Taghvaee that the attack had failed. He confirms that the HQs was hit by 6 or 7 missiles
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:20 pm

    A wake up call.

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    #IRGC showed its surface-to-surface precise missiles, drone (footage of the base in the aftermath of the strike) & intel capabilities to #USA #Israel & #SaudiArabia .

    Iran Sunday claimed responsibility for an attack on a DPK base in #Iraq, killed 11 & wounded 50.


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    Post  yavar Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm

    Iran strikes opposition positions in Iraqi Kurdistan
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-iraq-security-idUSKCN1U71E7

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    Post  crod Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:31 pm

    Looks like a decent mission success rate.
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    Post  George1 Sun May 31, 2020 12:07 am

    Three Iranian soldiers killed in clashes along border

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/libyan-army-kills-leader-of-turkish-backed-syrian-militant-group/
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    Post  par far Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:26 pm

    "Iran attacked Kurdish insurgents in Iraq's Kurdistan with warplanes drones artillery"

    "On September 9, a series of Iranian strikes targeted positions of the Kurdistan Democratic Party of Iran (KDPI) in the Iraqi Kurdistan Region.

    The strikes started at around 6:00 am local time. Iranian warplanes, suicide drones, and artillery targeted a number of positions of the KDPI in the areas of Sidakan, Choman and Haji Omran in the province of Erbil."




    https://southfront.org/iran-attacked-kurdish-insurgents-in-iraqs-kurdistan-with-warplanes-drones-artillery-videos-photos/







    What are the chances that Iran and Turkey slowly come close?


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    Post  sundoesntrise Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:26 am

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    Any truth to this? It seems as if the protests are slowly morphing into something more dangerous. The authorities in Teheran will have to adapt and anticipate, hoping for things to quietly fizzle out whilst they keep a to a certain extent a lid on the fire ain't working.

    Also, what's the deal with the support network of commie Kurds/ foreign Intel agencies in the border areas of Iraq? True or overblown for propaganda purposes?

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    Post  TMA1 Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:05 am

    Dont trust it one bit. Kurds largely in the pocket of western NGOs, nonprofits and intel agencies. the whole movement for change of Iranian government whether peaceful or violent is backed by globohomo. Of all the powers on this earth they serve the most wicked of interests. They do not believe in nations, ethnicities or religion. They are literal globalists who work for the annihilation of christian, nationalist, patriarchal west. If this is the case then how would they ever ultimately support egyptian, arabic, persian, pashtun and indian islam? They see these "constructs" as obstacles in their desire for the ultimate homogenization of everything religious people hold dear. This includes hindu and buddhist societies.

    So this is why I see any protest against the Islamic republic of Iran as evil and connected to the neocon/neolib plans. This is why I personally would never support it, for whatever that is worth. I'm just a random forum poster. I sympathize with the simple kernel of truth behind the protests, and I do believe the current Iranian Islamic republic needs to atone for cruelty and hardened heart against it's own people. The issue right now is that any kind of protest against the Islamic republic of Iran is an existential evil and ruin to Islam and the Persian people.

    Again this is just the opinion of a humble rando on a defense forum, but I hope it makes sense.

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    Post  flamming_python Tue Nov 22, 2022 12:28 pm

    Lots of fighting going on in Kurdish-populated cities in Iran

    Ignore the CIA-sponsored twitter commentary

    Last week:










    Over the last couple of days: (some videos are graphic)












    Protests in the rest of the Iran though seem to have fallen off. I guess realizing outside powers are attempting to incite a sectarian war in your country might dampen enthusiasm.
    Although we can't exclude action in Baluchi-populated cities as Bolton earlier hinted; the clique in Pakistan the US sponsored in overthrowing Khan might go for that. Or might not.
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    Post  nomadski Tue Nov 22, 2022 2:42 pm




    FP wrote " Ignore the CIA-sponsored twitter commentary . " Indeed ignore everybody's commentary , because everybody has their own interests and will put a different spin on events , to justify their actions / inaction . When I watch these YouTube clips , I turn the volume off , and just watch the pictures , because it is difficult to fabricate the video , and it gives much more info . Now , in no place , have I seen protests coming to an end ,or protesters displaying separatist slogans or being supported by Pakistan . All that I see , are protesters , all without weapons , shouting in the street , and Army and security opening fire . This is a fact . Now if armed opposition formed in more than one spot in Iran , then the days of IR , is at an end .
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    Post  sundoesntrise Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:34 pm

    https://t.me/Cultures_of_Resistance/12756

    There is not too much video material coming out from places in Iran, but what does seep through is pointing towards escalation.

    Above is a link to a video showing the IRGC/Basij fighting street battles with Kurdish protestors/rebels in Javanrud.

    Also nomadski what's the deal with the wardrums sounding over Iraq Kurdistan? 10 day ultimatum sounds weak, and missile strikes are for the domestic public front.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:15 pm





    The right wing got the war , they wanted . They were desperate to somehow ignite a fight , to achieve their reactionary aims to suppress the protests , through violence . They tried against R . Azer , and also tried against " ISIS" , but this one seemed the easier battle . Fixed targets , little diplomatic or international fallout , unlike " ISIS" the hidden " enemy " , this one is in plain sight . Now they hope that attention will be diverted towards the Kurdish enemy , and national unity will be broken . A lesson or justification to use heavier lethal force also in Baloch region or Caspian coast . But I doubt they will succeed . The Kurds have every right to defend themselves , in unprovoked attack by state terror apparatus . " ultimatum " , means using planes and Tanks to attack towns and villages ......



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    Post  flamming_python Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:42 pm

    Or

    The US is simply now using the nuclear option against Iran; the Kurdish card, which the US had earlier withheld from on account of Turkey's security interests, but now with Turkey moving away from the West anyway - no longer has any reservations against employing.

    And so the various Kurdish militias and separatist organizations in Iran have been given the signal to rise up much like the Kurds in Iraq were told to by Washington in 1991, with the according promises of arms deliveries and other supplies as soon as they've got the ball rolling and taken over some border crossings at least.

    And on the backdrop of this Iraqi Kurdistan itself is emboldened, while the Turks probably want to preempt the Syrian, Iraqi and rebel Iranian Kurdish territories from joining together under a US-sponsored aegis, and have decided to invade north Iraq to prevent that.

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    Post  nomadski Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:16 pm

    Who is attacking who ? Who is sending troops into whose territory ? Are the Kurds sending pishmarge into Tehran ? Are they sending helicopters or APC ? Are their fighters advancing into Azeri or Farsi villages ? Are they surrounding them with troops ? Are they cutting electricity to them ? Are they using machine gun in their city ? No they are not ? They are defending own towns from attack . These are the facts . Not suppositions . Argue from facts . Iranians should not allow the Mullah right wing regime to start ethnic conflict or the yanks to do the same . Same objective , different clothes . Anti-socialist and anti-democratic elements both .
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    Post  flamming_python Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:51 pm

    Who is attacking who ? Who is sending troops into whose territory ? Are the Kurds sending pishmarge into Tehran ? Are they sending helicopters or APC ? Are their fighters advancing into Azeri or Farsi villages ? Are they surrounding them with troops ? Are they cutting electricity to them ? Are they using machine gun in their city ? No they are not ? They are defending own towns from attack . These are the facts . Not suppositions . Argue from facts . Iranians should not allow the Mullah right wing regime to start ethnic conflict or the yanks to do the same . Same objective , different clothes . Anti-socialist and anti-democratic elements both .

    With such reductionist reasoning as yours it's possible to level the same accusations against Russia in the Ukraine, yet we know that reality is more complicated. Sometimes you have to act preemptively, or your neighbours are in bed with your enemies and are plotting against you, or there has been some previous conflict that has never gone away and its resumption is inevitable.

    Iran is not some land mass with a collection of different ethnic communities. It is before anything else a state, and a government, with its own set of laws. The Kurdish protestors are doing a lot more than what it took for the Yellow Vests in France to get a baton over the head for. Namely they are challenging the Iranian government, breaking the law, hinting at separatism and fighting with the police. That sort of thing is grounds for the usage of force to restore law & order in any country.

    And I'm not making a judgement about the protesters' grievances here, I'm simply saying that every state will try and preserve itself and will try to put down insurrections that challenge their authority - this is inevitable. I'd also point out that the Iranian government itself is legitimate, fundamentally. Not necessarily in the Kurdish-populated regions, where it asserted itself with violence in the first place not long after the Islamic revolution; but generally, in wider Iran it was and is legitimate, it had enough of the population's support to overthrow the Shah, and enough support to have withstood Western attempts at pressure and isolation since then. It also has elections, a parliament and other organs, through which laws can be challenged and modified to some extent; more than in many of its neighbors at any rate.

    This will not end with a new 'revolution', this will end, if it starts, as a new Yugoslavia or Syria. There is no groundwork for a new revolution. No new political theories, no popular political parties or charismatic leaders. What there is is a Western/Israeli objective to destabilize Iran and to this end they will support minority nationalists, corrupt politicians and armed groups.

    Ideally the Kurdish groups and the Iranian authorities will sit down at the table and agree to address some popular grievances, while dismissing further outside attempts to inflame the situation towards armed conflict.

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