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    Post  The-thing-next-door on Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:33 am

    Well it looks a lot nicer than your typical Japanese apartment.
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    Post  flamming_python on Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:11 am

    Documentary film about future technologies and development of the Russian Arctic, made in co-operation with Rosatom and the Russian Geographic Society

    It's in Russian but you can switch on closed captions, they're decent enough



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    Post  medo on Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:42 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Exclamation This is news about Antarctica (one with penguins, South Pole and Kurt Russell) not Arctic but I'm putting it here anyway

    Construction of new complex for Vostok station in Antarctica has been completed in Leningrad Region

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/135302/

    It can keep crew safe for two years without resupply, it will be transported in components to Antarctica and reassembled there

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    Considering, that this Antarctic base is modular building and made in factory, than Russia could made more of them for their scientific bases in Russian Arctic. They could easily place one such civil scientific base on Arctic islands near their military bases as well as on Russian Arctic mainland near Arctic vilages, where they could also serve as social objects for nearby population. Constantly populated civil bases will importantly increase Russian stand in their Arctic lands. This modular object could as well be made as hotel and placed along Northern sea route to give more security to ships sailing there.

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:10 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Exclamation This is news about Antarctica (one with penguins, South Pole and Kurt Russell) not Arctic but I'm putting it here anyway

    Construction of new complex for Vostok station in Antarctica has been completed in Leningrad Region

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/135302/

    It can keep crew safe for two years without resupply, it will be transported in components to Antarctica and reassembled there


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    Now THATS impressive.  I'm thinking about how one goes about "dismantling" such a structure, shipping it to Antarctica, transporting overland to Vostok, then assembling.  Vostok is further inland than the Amundsen–Scott base and is hard to get to overland (its often referred to as a "pole of inaccessibility"). I guess they would need to land the prefabs at Mirny station on the coast (not sure if geopolitics allow them to use the wharf at McMurdo) and them carry them inland, but fuck what a job...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:29 am

    AN-22/124s & IL-76s could deliver all of that directly. Dismantled old structures could be taken back by the same planes & recycled.

    China, Pakistan & India could also buy these modules for their Antarctic stations &/ mil. outposts in the mountains.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:47 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:AN-22/124s & IL-76s could deliver all of that directly. Dismantled old structures could be taken back by the same planes & recycled.

    China, Pakistan & India could also buy these modules for their Antarctic stations &/ mil. outposts in the mountains.

    Doing that many flights in the Antarctica is crazy tall order especially with heavy lifters

    Most likely it will be trucked from the coastline old-school

    And they will definitely not dismantle old structure, it's not modular and they will want to keep it around, any additional safe shelter and storage space is more than welcome down there

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:40 pm

    a ship can deliver it to the coast & then planes that will need to go there anyway bring it there; some old structures could be repurposed but most of them r probably beyond repair & unsafe for anything, esp. after the fire- time will tell!


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    Post  medo on Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:48 pm





    This new Vostok Antarctic station is designed for -100oC. I don't think it is made from ordinary materials.


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    Post  Hole on Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:19 pm

    The modules will be delivered to the Wostok station by vehicles.

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    This was done so in the past. The simplest and cheapest way of delivering so many items.
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    Post  GarryB on Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:08 am

    It will likely be a flatpack modular building type thing with standard parts and framework...

    Most likely delivered by land vehicles and trailers and dragged on sleds... after being shipped there...
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:15 am

    Hole wrote:The modules will be delivered to the Wostok station by vehicles.

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    This was done so in the past. The simplest and cheapest way of delivering so many items.

    That much tonnage looks very difficult to deliver by land over the whole Antarctic

    You can see the trials of just a small expedition here with just their own fuel as cargo

    Granted there are probably better vehicles for the job

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:28 am

    Those disassembled units won't need many planes/flights to move. To save $, crews can be given less training time at home as this airlift could be used instead of, & counted as it.  

    https://news.antiwar.com/2020/08/30/us-shakeup-in-europe-adds-to-focus-on-arctic/
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:46 pm

    The old buildings don't look very impressive but they weren't made from local timber.... it all has to be transported down there... and taken out afterwards too.

    Most of it will be shipped down I suspect... simply because of the distances required to fly it there...

    The example shown above is fully kitset.... they will have practised setting that one up and if they are really keen they could drive the components up far north in teh Arctic and practise assembling a few bases up in the arctic so they know what they are doing... I mean the building at one end seems to be the only one with proper foundations... all the other bits just sit on the ice, and presumably can be added or removed depending on the design you are interested.

    They might start out with the big end building and one or two smaller add on modules to start with and then expand the following summers when the weather is good.
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    Post  owais.usmani on Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:16 pm

    US is not going to allow Russia any of its evil activities in the Arctic. Watch out Russia, here they come:

    https://news.usni.org/2020/08/25/coast-guard-icebreaker-healy-suffers-fire-on-arctic-mission-all-arctic-operations-cancelled

    lol!

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    Post  medo on Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:12 am

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    Russia have two big research icebreakers, who are very important to support Russian Antarctic bases.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:08 pm

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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:30 am

    Tu-142 performed reconnaissance in the Arctic https://www.vesti.ru/article/2454176

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