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    Post  Hole 09/11/20, 09:04 am

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    Post  mnztr 22/11/20, 06:21 pm

    Arktika returns to Murmansk:

    https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2020/11/russias-latest-and-most-powerful-nuclear-icebreaker-had-abort-maiden-arctic-voyage
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    Post  Hole 23/11/20, 08:01 am

    No nuclear reactor but also nice.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion 09/12/20, 03:23 pm

    The Dire State of America's Icebreakers
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    Post  George1 17/12/20, 02:36 am

    The fourth serial nuclear-powered icebreaker "Chukotka" of project 22220 was laid down at the Baltic Shipyard

    https://en.topwar.ru/178204-chetvertyj-serijnyj-ledokol-chukotka-proekta-22220-zalozhen-na-baltijskom-ssz.html

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    Post  kvs 17/12/20, 05:41 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:The Dire State of America's Icebreakers

    Trump and fore sure his replacement Biden plan to have total control of the world's oceans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/17/us-plans-big-expansion-of-navy-fleet-to-challenge-growing-chinese-sea-power

    Building more tubs to patrol irrelevant regions is not going to achieve much. The US desperately wants to control the
    North Sea route. If it thinks that more of its tubs will simply roll over Russia, it has another thing coming.

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    Post  PapaDragon 17/12/20, 05:54 am

    kvs wrote:
    Tsavo Lion wrote:The Dire State of America's Icebreakers

    Trump and fore sure his replacement Biden plan to have total control of the world's oceans.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/17/us-plans-big-expansion-of-navy-fleet-to-challenge-growing-chinese-sea-power

    Building more tubs to patrol irrelevant regions is not going to achieve much. The US desperately wants to control the
    North Sea route. If it thinks that more of its tubs will simply roll over Russia, it has another thing coming.

    Navy is useless in any war with Russia so no wonder why Russia is so helpful when it comes to assisting China with naval development and not considered with USA building it's own

    The more money either dump into navies the less of a threat they will be to Russia


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    Post  miketheterrible 17/12/20, 05:58 am

    US doesn't have nor won't have in decades a proper fleet for the north. Russian vessels not only go through there, they have plenty of ice breakers, air defense systems around, subs and now military bases up there.

    There really isn't anything US can do. Russia's borders are already defined and US has stretched itself thin.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion 17/12/20, 02:56 pm

    Congress Authorizes New Arctic Icebreakers for Coast Guard    

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    Post  mnztr 17/12/20, 06:31 pm

    kvs wrote:

    Trump and fore sure his replacement Biden plan to have total control of the world's oceans.  

    They can have it if they want. With Chinas road and belt, control of the oceans will be much less important. China can trade on the Eurasian continent and the Americas will be irrelevant
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    Post  kvs 19/12/20, 07:40 am

    Tsavo Lion wrote:Congress Authorizes New Arctic Icebreakers for Coast Guard    

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    Mods: pl. combine this with Arctic Rush thread.

    Aren't they planning to patrol the NSR including Russia's territorial and EEZ waters?

    Funny "coast guard" they have.

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    Post  George1 20/12/20, 02:38 am

    Video of "Chukotka" laid down

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    Post  Big_Gazza 02/03/21, 11:00 pm

    The two Arktikas... old and new!  Yamal Pr 10541 and Arktika Pr 22220.  Should have painted the new ones red  Very Happy

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    Post  owais.usmani 02/03/21, 11:23 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:The two Arktikas... old and new!  50 Let Pobedy Pr 10541 and Arktika Pr 22220.  Should have painted the new ones red  Very Happy


    The red one is Yamal, not 50 Let Pobedy, which is a bit longer.

    More pictures here: http://forums.airbase.ru/2021/03/t89633_47--universalnye-atomnye-ledokoly-proekta-22220.3366.html
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    Post  PapaDragon 03/03/21, 07:43 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:The two Arktikas... old and new! 50 Let Pobedy Pr 10541 and Arktika Pr 22220. Should have painted the new ones red

    No, thanks

    Russia needs a century long break from color red, it's been way overused
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    Post  Big_Gazza 03/03/21, 12:43 pm

    owais.usmani wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:The two Arktikas... old and new!  50 Let Pobedy Pr 10541 and Arktika Pr 22220.  Should have painted the new ones red  Very Happy


    The red one is Yamal, not 50 Let Pobedy, which is a bit longer.

    More pictures here: http://forums.airbase.ru/2021/03/t89633_47--universalnye-atomnye-ledokoly-proekta-22220.3366.html

    ty for the correction
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    Post  Big_Gazza 03/03/21, 12:43 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:The two Arktikas... old and new!  50 Let Pobedy Pr 10541 and Arktika Pr 22220.  Should have painted the new ones red  

    No, thanks

    Russia needs a century long break from color red, it's been way overused

    True, but it would shove a stick up Murican & Eurofag arses.. and that would be worth it.
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    Post  mnztr 03/03/21, 05:07 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:The two Arktikas... old and new!  50 Let Pobedy Pr 10541 and Arktika Pr 22220.  Should have painted the new ones red  

    No, thanks

    Russia needs a century long break from color red, it's been way overused

    the ice green/blue looks awesome.
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    Post  Tsavo Lion 05/04/21, 06:05 pm

    Baltic Plant. Nuclear icebreakers are built only here - photo report from a unique production
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    Post  PapaDragon 07/04/21, 11:11 am


    Russia may continue to enlarge its nuclear icebreaker fleet

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4287819.html

    According to the newspaper "Sea News of Russia", after 2030, Russia could continue to build up the nuclear icebreaker fleet. Currently four icebreakers are being built: two nuclear-powered vessels of the project 22220 type "Arktika" and two vessels of the project 10510 type "Leader". The relevant proposals were sent to the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation Mikhail Mishustin by Rosatom. This was stated by the representative of the state corporation Mikhail Belkin during the final extended meeting of the Board of Rosmorrechflot. His words are quoted by the correspondent of "Sea News of Russia"....
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    Post  mnztr 07/04/21, 11:21 am

    I can see them doing this if the northern sea route becomes popular. It will be like a winter Suez Canal through Russian waters with the requisite transit fees. Very lucerative.
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    Post  GarryB 07/04/21, 09:18 pm

    Should be good for ports along the arctic coast too for stopovers and repairs, but also as the ports where material from the far north and far east can be sent by rail to be shipped anywhere in the world...
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    Post  lancelot 08/04/21, 12:46 am

    AFAIK they are only currently building one of the Leader nuclear icebreakers. But yes more are planned.
    Almost 70000 tons displacement ship. About as much as a carrier. Two RITM-400 315 MWt nuclear reactors.

    Two Project 22220 nuclear icebreakers launched and two under construction. One active.

    Hopefully Russia can start on the battlecruisers and carriers after these ships come out.

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    Post  mnztr 08/04/21, 03:27 am

    I think if they can combine cargo with icebreakers they can truely revolutionize the Northern sea route. Other ships can wait outside the ice until a couple of these large units can cut a path for them.
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    Post  GarryB 08/04/21, 08:48 pm

    Two icebreakers running ahead of a long line of ships one slightly ahead of the other with the second making the path wider should be plenty.

    Many Russian ships are already ice rated anyway...

    There are estimates that in a few years time it will be largely ice free during summer and not very thick at all during winter...

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