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    Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News

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    Post  AMCXXL Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:58 am

    George1 wrote:

    can you put numbers also fro Mi-26s and Mi-24s in different posts? thank you

    Yes , of course

    The Mi-26 is here:
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t4806p575-russian-air-force-numbers-and-procurement-plans#260520


    About the Mi-24, remain in operation:

    - 1 squadron (20 Mi-24P) 112º OVP , Chita airport Cheremuski
    - 1 squadron (20 Mi-24P) 17º BrAA , Kamensk-Uralsk
    - 1 squadron (20 Mi-24P) 337º OVP , Novosiborsk airport Tolmachevo
    - 1 Squadron (20 Mi-24P) 440º OVP (378º AvB) , Vyazma airfield Dvoyevka
    - 1 Squadron (20 Mi-24P) 696º UVP /SVAI  Syzran (Helicopter training center)
    - 10 Mi-24P 344º TsBPiPLS Torzhok + Klin
    - 8 Mi-24V, 125º OVE , Donskoye , Kaliningrad Oblast, as part of Baltic Fleet Naval Aviation
    - 6 Mi-24P, 549º OVP , airfield Prybilovo as part of Russian UN contingent (they wear the white livery)
    - 4 Mi-24P, 18º BrAA Zernograd
    - 4 Mi-24P, 426º AvGr. (999 AvB) Yerevan (Armenia)
    - 4 Mi-24P 303º OVE (201º RVB) Gissar airfield Ayni (Tayikistan)
    - 2 Mi-24R (NBQ), 395º OIAE RCBZ , Bagay Baranovka airfield Sennoy
    - 2 Mi-24P 929º GLITs Akhtubinsk

    Total: 140


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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:32 pm

    A helicopter with a hybrid power plant is being developed in Russia
    Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News - Page 14 Vertolety5_ZVO_d_850

    A helicopter with a hybrid power plant is being developed in Russia. His preliminary project is already ready. The technical appearance of the new aircraft will correspond to the promising scientific and technical level of development of helicopter technology for the next two decades.

    This was reported to TASS by the press service of the Advanced Research Fund. Its specialists are engaged in the development together with the Russian Helicopters holding.

    It is assumed that the new helicopter will be competitive, including in relation to foreign counterparts - in terms of speed, range, flight duration, increased reliability and versatility of use. The developers plan to achieve these technical characteristics precisely through a hybrid installation, an electromechanical transmission, electric power actuators and a combined control system with artificial intelligence technology.

    The new helicopter can be used in search and rescue and medical operations. He will be able to fly 50 kilometers for seven minutes with two casualties and two medics on board and stay in the air for up to seven hours.

    https://rg.ru/2020/09/30/vertolet-s-gibridnoj-silovoj-ustanovkoj-razrabatyvaiut-v-rossii.html

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    Post  George1 Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:00 pm

    Urals army aviation brigade beefed up with world’s largest Mi-26 transport helicopter


    YEKATERINBURG, October 28. /TASS/. The world’s largest serial-produced Mil Mi-26 heavy transport helicopter arrived for a squadron of the Central Military District’s army aviation brigade stationed in the Chelyabinsk Region, the District’s press office reported on Wednesday.

    "The Mi-26 crew and the formation’s ground personnel received the combat vehicle at the manufacturing factory in the Rostov Region where the helicopter had undergone profound maintenance and its assemblies, systems and navigation equipment had been upgraded," the press office said in a statement.

    Following this, the pilots made a flight to a distance of over 2,000 km with two re-fueling operations and arrived at the home airfield. The helicopter entered service with the transport helicopter unit and completed the unit’s formation, the statement says.

    A Mi-26 heavy multi-purpose transport helicopter is the world’s largest serial-produced transport chopper with a maximum take-off weight of 56 tonnes and a lifting capacity of 20 tonnes. The helicopter can transport up to 70 paratroopers or 85 passengers.

    The Urals army aviation brigade was set up on December 1, 2018. The brigade operates Mi-24P gunships, Mi-8MTV5-1 transport and combat helicopters and the world’s biggest Mi-26 heavy transport and air assault rotorcraft.

    https://tass.com/defense/1217481

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    Post  AMCXXL Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:10 pm

    George1 wrote:

    Urals army aviation brigade beefed up with world’s largest Mi-26 transport helicopter



    YEKATERINBURG, October 28. /TASS/. The world’s largest serial-produced Mil Mi-26 heavy transport helicopter arrived for a squadron of the Central Military District’s army aviation brigade stationed in the Chelyabinsk Region, the District’s press office reported on Wednesday.

    "The Mi-26 crew and the formation’s ground personnel received the combat vehicle at the manufacturing factory in the Rostov Region where the helicopter had undergone profound maintenance and its assemblies, systems and navigation equipment had been upgraded," the press office said in a statement.

    Following this, the pilots made a flight to a distance of over 2,000 km with two re-fueling operations and arrived at the home airfield. The helicopter entered service with the transport helicopter unit and completed the unit’s formation, the statement says.

    A Mi-26 heavy multi-purpose transport helicopter is the world’s largest serial-produced transport chopper with a maximum take-off weight of 56 tonnes and a lifting capacity of 20 tonnes. The helicopter can transport up to 70 paratroopers or 85 passengers.

    The Urals army aviation brigade was set up on December 1, 2018. The brigade operates Mi-24P gunships, Mi-8MTV5-1 transport and combat helicopters and the world’s biggest Mi-26 heavy transport and air assault rotorcraft.

    https://tass.com/defense/1217481

    For the moment no new Mi-26 this just the assignment of destination to a Mi-26 built in past years
    In Uprun only two Mi-26s appear on Google Maps, however 4 Mi-26s were manufactured for this brigade, so the rest of Mi-26s have probably been destined now

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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:22 am

    Mi-8AMTSh-VN confirmed the characteristics of the airborne assault vehicle

    The newest transport and combat helicopter Mi-8AMTSh-VN, during the past tests, confirmed its strike and assault capabilities as a flying airborne combat vehicle. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a source in the military-industrial complex.


    The interlocutor of the news agency called the helicopter "a multifunctional machine for performing shock, assault and airborne transport tasks", this was achieved thanks to the improved complex of controlled weapons and increased survivability.

    The prototype Mi-8AMTSh-VN in recent tests fired guided missiles of the Ataka-VM complex at targets imitating enemy armored vehicles. (...) also used unguided rockets and cannons in overhead containers. The shooting was recognized as successful.

    - said the source, adding that in fact the helicopter confirmed the characteristics as a flying combat vehicle of the landing.

    The start of flight tests of the Mi-8AMTSh-VN transport and combat helicopter was reported in July this year. The first batch of 10 helicopters will go into service in 2021, all of them will be delivered to the army brigades aviationworking in the interests of the Airborne Forces.

    The Mi-8AMTSh-VN helicopter is an improved version of the Mi-8/17 helicopter, created taking into account the Syrian experience. It is equipped with VK-2500-03 gas turbine engines with an upgraded transmission and improved climatic characteristics and a new carrier system. In addition, the helicopter was equipped with an updated armament, the main feature of which was the use of special suspension on the farms of two course machine guns of 12,7 mm caliber. The cockpit and main components of the helicopter are covered with titanium alloy armor, and the cockpit floor and sides up to the windows are covered with removable Kevlar armor.

    A new flight and navigation equipment was installed on the helicopter. To increase the combat survivability, the principle of a combination of a "glass cabin" and reliable analog instruments has been applied. The machine is adapted for use at night.

    Mi-8AMTSH-VN is equipped with the LSZ-8VN defense complex, which automatically detects the launch of missiles by helicopter, interferes with their guidance heads and emits false thermal targets.

    https://en.topwar.ru/178359-mi-8amtsh-vn-podtverdil-harakteristiki-letajuschej-boevoj-mashiny-desanta.html

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    Post  PhSt Fri Jul 23, 2021 4:31 pm


    I wonder when we will see more firm orders for the mi-38

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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:46 am

    The first batch of the latest Mi-8AMTSh-VN transport and attack helicopters will be delivered to the troops in November this year. 

    This was announced by the General director of the Russian Helicopters holding company Andrey Boginsky.

    This helicopter is characterized by increased firepower, protection and is equipped with various special equipment. Also, a new radar manufactured by NP "Zaslon" is being installed on the helicopter, which will increase the range of detection and recognition of targets. 
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:28 am

    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:The first batch of the latest Mi-8AMTSh-VN transport and attack helicopters

    Anyone else think its time to shorten the name? Laughing

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    Post  Broski Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:34 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Russian_Patriot_ wrote:The first batch of the latest Mi-8AMTSh-VN transport and attack helicopters

    Anyone else think its time to shorten the name? Laughing
    Yes, call it the Mi-9.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:07 am

    I seem to remember an EW version of the aircraft being called Mi-9... maybe do what they normally do and just add a 1 at the start, so Mi-18... there was a prototype with retractable wheels and a body extention of about 2 metres but it never entered service so they could reuse the designation.

    Honestly I would like to see them shift to the Mi-38 as a new standard aircraft, but the older model just keeps going...
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    Post  PhSt Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:19 am

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    Post  Mir Thu Jul 29, 2021 4:25 am

    GarryB wrote:I seem to remember an EW version of the aircraft being called Mi-9... maybe do what they normally do and just add a 1 at the start, so Mi-18... there was a prototype with retractable wheels and a body extention of about 2 metres but it never entered service so they could reuse the designation.

    Honestly I would like to see them shift to the Mi-38 as a new standard aircraft, but the older model just keeps going...

    The Mi-9 was a rare command version. It was equipped with hockey stick type antennas at the rear. The Soviets had a couple of Mi-8  ECM variants with the main one known as the Mi-8PP - it's still in service I think?

    Btw - I like the name Mi-8AMTSh-VN it gives that required "weight" to this heavy duty assault helicopter  Smile

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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:09 am

    Has anyone being able to identify these two variants on the Mi-8?

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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:38 am

    Quite an air conditioner set-up there

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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 31, 2021 9:01 am

    I'm more impressed by the cooler box load out for the VIP's. That's some serious mini bar setup! Laughing
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    Post  Hole Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:05 pm

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    Second one is called Mi-8MTB Bosfor-2

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    Post  Mir Sat Jul 31, 2021 4:04 pm

    Thanks Hole! I see this is an communications jammer - very nice indeed!

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    Post  AMCXXL Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:49 pm

    Hole wrote:Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News - Page 14 000181
    Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News - Page 14 000361
    Second one is called Mi-8MTB Bosfor-2

    These are Mi-8AMTSh helicopters that are used in the Moscow Helicopter Factory as test prototypes of different types of equipment.
    Bosphor is the name of the device, not the helicopter


    At the moment there are the following variants on new Mi-8 russian made helicopters:

    made in Ulan Ude
    Mi-8AMTSh Standard Air Assault Helicopter, with rear ramp
    Mi-8AMTSh-V Standard air assault helicopter, with standard stern
    Mi-8AMTSh-VA Artic version
    Mi-8AMTSh-VN Version with better performance for difficult terrain or at height
    Mi-8AMTSh-1 VIP transport version (square windows)

    made in Kazan
    Mi-8MTV-5 standard air assault helicopter with rear ramp
    Mi-8MTPR-1 (EW version, made on Mi-8MTV-5)

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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:58 am

    AMCXXL wrote:

    These are Mi-8AMTSh helicopters that are used in the Moscow Helicopter Factory as test prototypes of different types of equipment.
    Bosphor is the name of the device, not the helicopter

    Yes I understood it as such thanks.
    The VIP one comes in two versions atm - Saloon2 and Saloon3. Saloon1 is the older Mi-8 version.
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    Post  AMCXXL Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:28 am

    Mir wrote:

    Yes I understood it as such thanks.
    The VIP one comes in two versions atm - Saloon2 and Saloon3. Saloon1 is the older Mi-8 version.

    the versions you are talking about must be older versions of the Mi-8AMT "Saloon", that in fact is a derivate of the civil helicopter,

    Half a dozen of these VIP helicopters were bought by Ministry of Defence , about 15 years ago for civil or peacekeeping missions, two were even bought for the expected "Palestine State".
    Now they have started to be used normally on the VKS after several years unused

    but that was before the massive arrival of the most modern military versions Mi-8AMTSh and Mi-8MTV-5

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    I was talking about the new Mi-8AMTSh-1 "Saloon"
    even the name of the modification is inscribed on the helicopter

    in last 2-3 years more of one dozen has been delivered. One complete squadron of 8º Special Purpose Division will be equiped with these machines (about 20)
    Most likely, the older versions of the AMT will end up being transferred to the Ministry of the Interior, to the presidential squad "SLO Rossiya" or to some other state agency.


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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:51 am

    These are the versions I know - but yes there could be more?

    mi-8AMT-1-Saloon
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    mi-8AMTSh-1-Saloon2
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    mi-8AMTSh-1-Saloon3
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    Post  AMCXXL Wed Aug 04, 2021 4:32 am

    Mir wrote:These are the versions I know - but yes there could be more?

    mi18AMT-1-Saloon
    Mi-8/17, Μi-38, Mi-26: News - Page 14 Mi8amt10

    mi-8AMTSh-1-Saloon2
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    mi-8AMTSh-1-Saloon3
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    Well I don't know who has invented the numbers 2 and 3 on it, the inscription on the helicopter is very clear
    there are other previous military VIP "Saloon" versions such as Mi-8MTV-1S, Mi-8MTV-1P , Mi-8PS the name is clearly painted on the fuselage


    The AMT-1 "Saloon" is derivate of an older "civil" version.
    The half dozen that are in the VKS today, came by chance for peace missions abroad or even purchased as a gift for Palestine, that later cannot be made
    These helicopters was purchased at the time when nothing was bought. They were actually one of the first aircraft purchased after the dismemberment of the USSR.

    The second image, AMTSh-1 . is the new standard version of the "Saloon" for the use of the VKS

    The helicopter below is a version used by the Minister of Defense himself and perhaps the second of the Minister. There are only two copies of this helicopter

    This is less a "VIP Transport"  rather a hybrid of a combat helicopter with an adapted interior habitability, similar to a VIP transport to take to the Minister of Defense
    in fact it has round windows instead of square ones
    It also has different antennas and accessories typical of a combat helicopter in that image, not like the other "VIP transport"

    However, I do not know that it has a name other than Mi-8AMTSh-1, at least officially

    In addition, the two helicopters of the Minister of Defense are prior to the standard VIP version, which would be the "second version" and not the third.
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    Post  Mir Wed Aug 04, 2021 5:24 am

    Yes clearly the third version is more combat orientated with all the self defense equipment fitted. It also carries the name mi-8AMTSh-1 - same as the standard VIP version. I guess this version would be good for a General to go and kick someones butt on the front line Smile

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