GarryB wrote:The 152mm Coalition programme is a joint Army/Navy programme, though the navy model will likely retain the double barrel configuration as it does not need to fit inside an aircraft for transport...
Garry, a couple of questions?
1. Why is the Russian Navy going for a 152 mm gun whereas US and Chinese Navies are opting for 155mm/62 caliber guns?
2. Does the Russian Navy have any guided ammunition like OTO Melara's VULCANO for their 76mm, 127mm naval guns?
3. Now that 155mm/62 caliber naval guns are available does the 127mm naval gun have any future?
I think that..
All those decisions are largely based on probable conflicts /wars and scenarios.
When Hitler invaded RUssia.. Russia had to build their artillery to a different caliber to the one Germany used. Why? so that if Germany capture a munition depot from Russia ,they cannot
use it in their own artillery. Even the Rails of the train in Russia were done incompatible with the rails of germany trains.. to not allow them use their trains in Russia territory.. and this delayed a lot Germany transportation with trains in Russia. because rails had to be redone again.
This is why Russia assault rifles ,Tank guns ,and Artillery guns will always use a different caliber
munition than the NATO one. If China use same caliber of NATO , it had to be because they are not expecting NATO to invade CHina ever again after they kicked NATO from North korea ,in the korean war. you cannot defeat China in their land with pure man power, they will overwhelm your forces as they did in North Korea to NATO.. and with inferior weapons. So probably China use same caliber of NATO because they expect they will be forced to invade Taiwan or another
island to fight NATO and they will benefit of using the same caliber of NATO munition. Because
they know they have superior man power and can break through any army force. Russia is purely defensive nation and cannot rely in numbers of man power and is never bad to prepared for worse case scenario of being invaded again by a pro NATO large force.. being forced to take advantage of its vast terrain ,and force the enemy to over extend its supply lines as was world war 2 vs Germany.. so any munition storage depot lost will be useless to the enemy.
Interestingly Russia assault rifle AK-12 support multiple caliber ,including NATO ones..
means that their special forces could operate in any part of Europe and ressupply munition
using the one capture from NATO forces ,killed in combat.
but the munition storages they build in Russia are focused on Russian official munition caliber . So if for example any Chechens are armed with advanced weapons from abroad with NATO weapons ,they will be unable to take advantage of taking control of a munition depot. Because of incompatibility with their NATo weapons.
All this strategic decisions are thinking in the worst possible scenario..that they cannot use nuclear weapons for x or y reasons. The simplicity manufacturing of their assault rifles is aimed to make it easier for civilians without combat experience ,in no time to take a rifle and help the mother land. Reason why low maintainance is also important.. Rifles that are idiot proof and can operate in the hands of normal patriotic civilians for months without cleaning.
T-72s follows this doctrine ,cheap ,easy to use ,easy to maintain ,easy to repair..
Armata/Pak-fa in the other hand completely change this. For a different scenario of clean wars
against Modern weapons from NATO. So is a risk in terms of price and cost and training.. So i suspect Russia probably will Upgrade T-90 armor and use them as their backbone tank in low level conflicts either Ukraine or Terrorism. and use Armata only when they see Modern NATO tanks in the conflict or modern weapons.
So Russia will be good..combining old and new weapons . I do see their T-72s also upgraded
its armor and mostly used against terrorist fighters.. each tank will have its place in the battlefield. Probably T-72s could be deployed even in the artic.. ask any NATO nations to do that with their tanks with lost of electronics and computer screens.. Electronics and sensors will break in that cold..
But this is also true for ARmata.. but fortunately Russia have lots of Tanks about 15,000 T-72s , according to global fire power that will work even in case of a nuclear conflict ,if not direct hit and not near the place of the bombing.
The perfect combination is to have both weapons for extreme environment and long conflicts
and weapons for short duration conflicts again modern armies.