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    Post  George1 on Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:48 pm

    Russian Naval Aviation to Overhaul, Boost Helicopter Fleet by 2025

    The Russian Navy has begun overhauling its fleet of shipborne helicopters as part of a state arms procurement program running into 2025, the Russian Defense Ministry’s press office said Wednesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — It will receive state-of-the-art Kamov Ka-52K attack choppers, Ka-31R radar surveillance helicopters and Ka-226T on-deck helicopters, as well as revamped Ka-27PL anti-submarine choppers already in service.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201703151051617821-russia-naval-aviation/
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:24 pm

    George1 wrote:.......................
    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — It will receive state-of-the-art Kamov Ka-52K attack choppers, Ka-31R radar surveillance helicopters and Ka-226T on-deck helicopters, as well as revamped Ka-27PL anti-submarine choppers already in service..............

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201703151051617821-russia-naval-aviation/

    I heard speculations before but this is first time I see actual report that Navy will get Ka-226.

    Which ship classes do you guys think will use these choppers? Coast Guard is safe bet but what about Navy ships?
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    Post  medo on Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:23 pm

    Most probably 22160 patrol ship. Smaller helicopter need less space.
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    Post  medo on Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:53 pm

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    Post  kopyo-21 on Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:58 am

    medo wrote:Russian Naval Aviation: News - Page 15 C5ndpx10
    I think the new MFD of Gefest Su-33 is MFI-55 (5 x 5 inches).
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    Post  medo on Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:16 pm

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    Interesting is, that upgraded Polish MiG-29A have quite similar MFD.
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Mar 21, 2017 12:07 am

    Which ship classes do you guys think will use these choppers? Coast Guard is safe bet but what about Navy ships?

    Hard to say... this new little helo has enormous potential with its ability to take rear pods optimised for different roles.

    Its small size means even very small vessels can carry a helo... but then even the tiniest patrol boat could carry a UAV these days so that is not that significant.

    What is interesting is that if they develop the modular nature of the rear pod system a medium sized vessel could carry a variety of pods and therefore in effect be able to carry the equivalent of several different helo types at one time.

    Of course on smaller boats it might allow the carriage of a helo where before there was simply not enough room for one, but on bigger boats it also means they can have a helo able to perform multiple functions... which is important because before you had a dedicated vessel... a Udaloy is a sub hunter so an anti sub helo would be important, but with a modular helo you can have a helo able to perform a range of roles as needed... this is important with the new vessels being multirole with missions including but not limited to anti ship, anti sub, land attack, anti piracy and other roles as well...
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    Post  Isos on Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:13 am

    Mig-29K and Su-33 that crashed were found by Ru navy's drone and some critical eqipements were removed according to french spoutnik news.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 18, 2017 1:52 am

    Two Ka-29 helicopters repaired in Sevastopol

    The web-resource aviaforum.ru published photos of two transport-combat helicopters Ka-29 of the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy, who completed the capital repair repairs at the Sevastopol Aircraft Repair Enterprise (GUP) in Sevastopol and received a new coloring.

    The helicopters have the yellow side plates "69" (registration number RF-19441) and "70" (registration number RF-19442) and, presumably, will be part of the Black Sea Fleet aviation, which, apparently, will become the first Ka-29 flight aircraft for a long time. Both helicopters were commissioned for repairs in 2015, presumably from storage in Kach.

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    Recall that the photo of the first completed Ka-29 helicopter repair (in still unpainted form) appeared in December 2016. Then this helicopter was identified as a board with the serial number 52350047121804 and serial number 079-03 (the former onboard number "70 red" from Kachi), and, apparently, it is one of the two now presented in painted form helicopters.

    On December 21, 2016, six Ka-29 helicopters, which underwent capital repairs at Kumertau Aviation Production Enterprise JSC, were also transferred to the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy.

    As of November 2016, only four Ka-29 helicopters were in a state of flying in the Russian Navy: two cars with aircraft numbers "38 yellow" (registration number RF-34194) and "39 yellow" (registration number RF-34188), operating in 859 Center for Combat Use and Training of the Flight Composition of the Naval Aviation of the Russian Navy in Yeisk, as well as Ka-29 helicopters with the "23 red" and "75 red" airborne units in the Northern Fleet aviation.

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    Post  George1 on Wed Jun 28, 2017 10:52 pm

    Russia restarts production of engines for ship-borne fighter jets

    Engines for the naval aviation’s Su-33 aircraft arrive after passing all the test stages

    ST. PETERSBURG, June 28. /TASS/. Russia has launched the production of upgraded engines for deck-based Sukhoi Su-33 fighter jets, the press office of the United Engine Corporation (UEC) said on Wednesday.

    "In order to meet the requirements of the state customer, the UEC has resumed the production of AL-31F series 3 turbofan engines for deck-based Su-33 fighters. A batch of the engines has already been produced by UMPO [part of the UEC] and supplied to the customer," the press office said.

    The AL-31F series 3 engines were developed and produced specially for Su-33 aircraft, the UEC said.

    "Considering the evolutionary development that the family of AL-31F engines has undergone after the last series 3 units were produced, the new engines for seaborne heavy fighters are made with the introduction of modifications that have already been applied to the engines of the AL-31F family," the corporation’s press office said.

    Engines for the naval aviation’s Su-33 aircraft arrive after passing all the test stages. The UEC is also carrying out work for providing technical support for operational seaborne AL-31F engines.

    The AL-31F turbofan engine with an afterburner and a variable thrust nozzle is mounted on the aircraft of the Su-27 family. It is used in a wide range of altitudes and flight speeds and provides for the aircraft’s unique maneuverable characteristics.

    The AL-31F has been used as the basis for developing the AL-31FP variant with thrust vector control and the AL-31FN variant with the lower arrangement of the box of aircraft accessory for mounting on single-engine fighter jets.

    As its specific feature, the Al-31F series 3 offers a possibility for introducing an additional special mode for the aircraft’s takeoff from the deck with the full combat load or for an emergency go-around maneuver.


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    Post  medo on Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:15 am

    Excellent, so Su-33 will serve in RuNAVY for decades. New engines will have longer life time and lower fuel consumption similarly as new upgraded Al-31F engines. New engines also mean, that Su-33 will go through deeper modernization if it was not already done by SVP-24 modernization as they could upgrade radar to N001VEP standard with replacing some components by Su-30KN modernization package. The same program was used by Belarus, when upgrading their and Kazakh Su-27 fighters and Angolan Su-30 fighters.
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    Post  Benya on Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:10 am

    Russia’s Minoga - Ka-27 Replacement - Ship-Based Helicopter to be Transformable

    The promising Russian Minoga ship-based helicopter is planned to be versatile and transformable to accomplish different tasks, Russian Helicopters Group’s press office said.

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    Russian Helicopters Group is a subsidiary of Russia’s Rostec state hi-tech corporation.

    "The Ka-27 helicopter will require replacing sooner or later and it will be replaced with the Minoga rotorcraft. Its goal is to combine all the capabilities the Ka-27 helicopter has," the press office said.

    "The Ka-27 helicopter was planned to have three versions, i.e. the antisubmarine warfare, search and rescue and transport/combat ones. Now, a sufficient number of other options are available. There is a plan to make the Minoga rotorcraft versatile and quickly transformable to accomplish different missions," the press office added.

    According to the press office, the Minoga will have virtually the same weight and size as the Ka-27 helicopter. The preliminary work has been carried out and the design work has begun.
    As Russian Helicopters Group Deputy CEO for Marketing and Business Development Alexander Shcherbinin said last year, the company has already decided on the design of the Minoga helicopter.

    Kamov Company General Designer Sergei Mikheyev said at that time that the serial production of the promising helicopter would start in about ten years.

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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:32 am

    The word transformable suggests some sort of new propulsion or the ability to operate in different flight modes.

    Perhaps some sort of pusher propeller for high speed flight?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jul 13, 2017 3:10 pm

    GarryB wrote:The word transformable suggests some sort of new propulsion or the ability to operate in different flight modes.

    Perhaps some sort of pusher propeller for high speed flight?

    I think they might be​ referring to setup similar to Ka-226

    It's a great design that improves on Ka-27 in every way, now they just need to enlarge it and they have a winner
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    Post  GarryB on Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:57 am

    That would be a very good idea.

    I remember they talked about a convertible helicopter and armoured vehicle.

    At the time I read it I dismissed it as silly, but when our Scottish friend here asked about it I gave it more thought.

    If you made the vehicles modular it becomes more practical... in the air you just need small arms protection, whereas on the ground the protection requirements are much greater.

    If you treat the armoured vehicle and the helicopter component like an Armata tank... the crew and also troop compartment is protected mostly by its location and extra armour specifically around it.

    A troop pod and a crew pod should be developed first and then the helicopter component and armoured land vehicle component treated separately... the air component can be like an enlarged Ka-226T perhaps with the rear pod being for the troops with RWS mounts in the corners so the troops inside can fire on targets on the ground nearby as part of the helo.

    The IFV could have the troop pod dropped into it from the helo.

    The way they could be used is the IFV are dropped into theatre by helo with their crews on board and then another smaller helo comes in with the troop pod that is attached to the IFV which then moves forward into combat...

    Who knows... but the idea of a 10-13 ton Ka-226T sounds pretty cool to me.
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    Post  medo on Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:13 pm

    https://www.vz.ru/news/2017/7/17/878903.html

    Свыше половины самолетов Су-33 получила новые системы боевого применения по морским и наземным целям. Теперь их «потенциал повышен до уровня Су-30СМ». Остальные Су-33 Морской авиации также пройдут модернизацию.

    К 2018 году современным требованиям будут отвечать 60% авиапарка.

    Interesting information from article. More than half of Su-33 got new bort FCS complex to engage naval and ground targets and their combat potential is near the one of Su-30SM. This info prove, that Su-33 got radar modernization package to made it multirole, most probably from Irkut Su-30KN package, which radar have similar capabilities to N001VEP from Su-30M2. SVP-24 is not made to enage naval targets, for this task Su-33 need radar with air to sea modes.
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    Post  Benya on Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:34 pm

    Some additional info about the Su-33 modernization


    Russia's Naval Aviation to Upgrade All Su-33 Fighters to Su-30SM Level

    All Sukhoi Su-33 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-D) fighter jets operational with Russia’s Naval Aviation will be upgraded to the Su-30SM level, Naval Aviation Chief Major-General Igor Kozhin said during MAKS 2017 air show

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    File picutre: A Sukhoi Su-33 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-D) fighter jet with Admiral Kuznetsov in the background

    "Half of the Su-33 plane fleet has received advanced weapon systems designed to hit sea and land targets. In fact, their capabilities have been increased to the Su-30SM level. All Su-33 planes operational with the Naval Aviation will undergo such an upgrade," Kozhin said.

    By late 2017, 60% of the fleet will meet requirements set to Naval Aviation aircraft, he added.

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    File picutre: A Sukhoi Su-33 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-D) fighter jet

    According to him, more than 20 Su-30SM planes were delivered to the Naval Aviation in two years and a new regiment operating Mikoyan MiG-29 (Fulcrum) fighter jets was formed. It was reported earlier that Su-33 shipborne fighter jets were undergoing upgrade to receive the special SVP-24 computer subsystem developed by the Gefest&T Company.

    According to information available on the Internet, the planes had been upgraded and were undergoing tests at the Gromov Flight Research Center. However, there is no information whether the instruments of the Su-33 plane’s cockpit were modified.

    The information required for the operation of the SVP-24 computer subsystem is likely to be shown on the EKP-NT single man-portable map tablet that will be located on the pilot’s lap during the flight.

    The SVP-24 system allows planes to accurately attack ground targets in any weather conditions using a wide range of unguided air-launched weapons.

    The system is mounted on the Su-24M (Fencer) frontline bomber and the Tupolev Tu-22M3 (Backfire-C) long-range supersonic bomber.

    The SVP-24 system was actively used by Russia’s air task force in the counterterror operation in Syria. It was reported in November 2016 that Su-33 fighter jets of the ship Admiral Kuznetsov’s air wing had dropped bombs to destroy a big armed group of the Jabhat al-Nusra terror organization (outlawed in Russia) in Syria’s Idlib province.

    Source: Arrow http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/july-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5401-russia-s-naval-aviation-to-upgrade-all-su-33-fighters-to-su-30sm-level.html
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    Post  JohninMK on Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:52 am

    Joseph Dempsey‏ @JosephHDempsey 9h9 hours ago
    Replying to @JosephHDempsey

    #Russia only operational Typhoon SSBN 'Dmitriy Donskoy' & Kirov CGHMN 'Pyotr Veliky' transit down #Norway coastline https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2017/07/im-deeply-concerned-about-safety-board-nuclear-armageddon-machine …


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    Post  Big_Gazza on Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:38 pm

    JohninMK wrote: Joseph Dempsey‏ @JosephHDempsey 9h9 hours ago
    Replying to @JosephHDempsey

    #Russia only operational Typhoon SSBN 'Dmitriy Donskoy' & Kirov CGHMN 'Pyotr Veliky' transit down #Norway coastline https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2017/07/im-deeply-concerned-about-safety-board-nuclear-armageddon-machine …

    That link to an article by a Bellona wonk is pure tardishness.  The so-called "nuclear safety expert" prattles about the PtG and Donskois reactors being 40 years old...  and is "so concerned" about their safety and whether the crews will "push" reactor safety standards on a "prestige" voyage, but of course he'd NEVER say anything similar about Nimitz class reactors that are even older....

    The hypocrisy and bias is simply overwhelming...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Jul 19, 2017 1:09 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    JohninMK wrote: Joseph Dempsey‏ @JosephHDempsey 9h9 hours ago
    Replying to @JosephHDempsey

    #Russia only operational Typhoon SSBN 'Dmitriy Donskoy' & Kirov CGHMN 'Pyotr Veliky' transit down #Norway coastline https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2017/07/im-deeply-concerned-about-safety-board-nuclear-armageddon-machine …

    That link to an article by a Bellona wonk is pure tardishness.  The so-called "nuclear safety expert" prattles about the PtG and Donskois reactors being 40 years old...  and is "so concerned" about their safety and whether the crews will "push" reactor safety standards on a "prestige" voyage, but of course he'd NEVER say anything similar about Nimitz class reactors that are even older....

    The hypocrisy and bias is simply overwhelming...

    This is nothing, these same clowns were recently throwing shit-fits over Akademik Lomonosov soon being towed from St. Pete trough the Baltics and how reactors might be activated during voyage (which was the plan from the get go) even though reactors on that one are brand new.

    I hope they switch them on before they start to tow it, take their sweet time and raise all sort of noise just so these retards get their panties extra brown.

    Maybe rolling coverage by RT from the vessel during transit around Scandinavia would be in order?
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    Post  medo on Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:38 pm

    Benya wrote:Some additional info about the Su-33 modernization


    Russia's Naval Aviation to Upgrade All Su-33 Fighters to Su-30SM Level

    All Sukhoi Su-33 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-D) fighter jets operational with Russia’s Naval Aviation will be upgraded to the Su-30SM level, Naval Aviation Chief Major-General Igor Kozhin said during MAKS 2017 air show

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    File picutre: A Sukhoi Su-33 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-D) fighter jet with Admiral Kuznetsov in the background

    "Half of the Su-33 plane fleet has received advanced weapon systems designed to hit sea and land targets. In fact, their capabilities have been increased to the Su-30SM level. All Su-33 planes operational with the Naval Aviation will undergo such an upgrade," Kozhin said.

    By late 2017, 60% of the fleet will meet requirements set to Naval Aviation aircraft, he added.

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    File picutre: A Sukhoi Su-33 (NATO reporting name: Flanker-D) fighter jet

    According to him, more than 20 Su-30SM planes were delivered to the Naval Aviation in two years and a new regiment operating Mikoyan MiG-29 (Fulcrum) fighter jets was formed. It was reported earlier that Su-33 shipborne fighter jets were undergoing upgrade to receive the special SVP-24 computer subsystem developed by the Gefest&T Company.

    According to information available on the Internet, the planes had been upgraded and were undergoing tests at the Gromov Flight Research Center. However, there is no information whether the instruments of the Su-33 plane’s cockpit were modified.

    The information required for the operation of the SVP-24 computer subsystem is likely to be shown on the EKP-NT single man-portable map tablet that will be located on the pilot’s lap during the flight.

    The SVP-24 system allows planes to accurately attack ground targets in any weather conditions using a wide range of unguided air-launched weapons.

    The system is mounted on the Su-24M (Fencer) frontline bomber and the Tupolev Tu-22M3 (Backfire-C) long-range supersonic bomber.

    The SVP-24 system was actively used by Russia’s air task force in the counterterror operation in Syria. It was reported in November 2016 that Su-33 fighter jets of the ship Admiral Kuznetsov’s air wing had dropped bombs to destroy a big armed group of the Jabhat al-Nusra terror organization (outlawed in Russia) in Syria’s Idlib province.

    Source: Arrow http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/2017/july-2017-navy-naval-forces-defense-industry-technology-maritime-security-global-news/5401-russia-s-naval-aviation-to-upgrade-all-su-33-fighters-to-su-30sm-level.html

    Any Su-30 modification is multirole with upgraded radar or Bars-R radar in Su-30SM with modes to attack air, sea and ground targets. Su-33 geting air to sea capabilities mean multirole radar, what mean upgrading existing one to N001VEP level. SVP-24 provide capabilities to attack stationary ground targets with unguided bombs. It is of no use against sea targets as it could not operate with anti-ship missiles. Modernized Su-33 got new LCD MFD instead of old radar screen.
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    Post  Isos on Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:23 pm

    Wasn't the Su-33 supposed to be replaced totally by Mig-29K ?
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    Post  GarryB on Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:19 pm

    It was assumed by many that this is what was happening... but for all we know they just took advantage of the fact that the MiG-29K2 was in production (for India) and so bought a batch while they were cheaper and quicker to get into service.

    The MiG-29K2 is a very good aircraft, while the Su-33 in their original form were pretty much just Su-27 with folding wings and a tail hook and strengthened bits and bobs.

    With upgrades the Su-33 will become a much more useful aircraft.
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    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 20, 2017 12:23 pm

    Isos wrote:Wasn't the Su-33 supposed to be replaced totally by Mig-29K ?

    Yes. My conclusion is that they decided to keep it because they obviously have no intention for further MiG-29Ks
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    Post  T-47 on Thu Jul 20, 2017 5:42 pm

    George1 wrote:
    Isos wrote:Wasn't the Su-33 supposed to be replaced totally by Mig-29K ?

    Yes. My conclusion is that they decided to keep it because they obviously have no intention for further MiG-29Ks

    Another point I think is the condition of RAC MiG itself. The after sale service of Sukhoi is obviously better than MiG. So its easier to upgrade them because more upgraded parts and spares are available easily and they are tested (Syria). While the MiGs performance is rather poor in these criteria. SMT upgrade, or MiG-35 saga or the long dream of LMFS and Skat. I think Syria made the first Russian air operation without the name MiG since creation of MiG itself (Until the arrival of Admiral Kuznetsov but still its not air force).

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