Russian military intervention and aid to Syria #13

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CasualtiesOfTheDay
‏ @Ayei_Eloheichem
9h9 hours ago

Zaman Al wasl reports substantial Russian reinforcements to Syria in 2019, including more than 30 more fixed-wing and rotary aircraft at Humaymim and Stamo and a lot of new cargo

They're getting ready to plaster the Idlib rebels?

We have a convoy! Lots of goodies inside. Those ships have done an amazing job of work.


Yörük Işık
‏Verified account @YorukIsik
50m50 minutes ago

Russian Navy #ВМФ #ЧФ BSF Black Sea Fleet Ropucha class LSTMs Tsezar Kunikov 158 & Azov 151 transited Bosphorus back-to-back towards Mediterranean en route to #Tartus #Syria. First Mediterranean deployment in 2019 for both landing ships.

http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-russian-supplied-s-300-systems-becoming-operational-in-syria-satellite-images-revea-1.6912188

Let's see how well they'll use them!

After deadly Syrian battle, evidence of Russian losses was obscured

After deadly Syrian battle, evidence of Russian losses was obscured

Hahahahahahha.... dem evil Russians are lying to us because they are not telling us about the deaths of private contractors who are Russian getting killed in Syria.

In comparison the US shows detailed lists whenever US civilian contractors get killed or injured around the world in all the conflicts operate in... don't they?

NO... they don't.

It is pretty normal though.... the Russians are interfering in our elections... there is no actual evidence or we would present it but we know them and their methods and we suspect it is more than likely that they are doing it... mainly because we are doing it to them... for which there is an abundance of evidence available with a wide variety of independent sources but we will ignore that completely because we are .

Russia-Iran competition heats up in Syria

Yeah, and Russia will break up into little regions and Russia and China will go to war and India and China will go to war and lots of other American wet dreams about their enemies fighting each other instead of the real threat...

Tsavo Lion wrote:http://www.haaretz.com/misc/article-print-page/.premium-russian-supplied-s-300-systems-becoming-operational-in-syria-satellite-images-revea-1.6912188

Let's see how well they'll use them!

After deadly Syrian battle, evidence of Russian losses was obscured

Hope you realize Reuters is  a  British propaganda outlet.. and they and many other anglo
media have always been over dramatically reporting in the worse light possible for Russia.. they right there in that report ,they are questioning the success of Russia military campaign ..because of the "many Russian casualties" and as always , outlets like that and CNN  ALWAYS.. claims "anomymous sources" told them hundreds of Russian soldiers killed here or there.

Reality is that such information is IMPOSIBLE to know ,unless someone is there with media counting
and they happen to know if he is Russian citizen or not.. but Reuters a british spy media , who works like BBC for the UK government , they will never be allowed anywhere near any battlefield.. and neither every Russian soldier will talk to a foreign media about casualties.. is always laughable how can people be so naive and thinks , that Russian army and Russian special forces , are all traitors ,and they all cant wait to talk with pro NATO media about their casualties on any incident.  IT did not happen ,that simple..  

And in the event mentioned that Russia supposedly lost 300 soldiers private military soldiers and special forces. over a period of 2 hours ,by American airforce.. such a thing will be IMPOSSIBLE..
Since Russia airforce will not abandon their military ,whether is regular army or private contractors
to their fate and turn to the other side..

Things to consider.. is that when Russia do a bombing campaign on ISIS.. that they have air superiority and can freely bomb any place they want.. usually Russia reports that the casualties of ISIS are in the 7-10 terrorist..   This is because even terrorist understand to concentrate their forces in just one place..is very dangerous..   so to think ISIS can protect better than Russian army and Russian special forces and will be so foolish to move 300 soldiers in an open zone with camps and just sit there idle calling for help for 2 hours and Russia military with their s-400s, not shot down american planes attacking their guys is a bad joke. . Simply the entire story was made up , to discredit Russia military and Russia massive casualties 300-400 in a 2 hours duel with Americans did not happen at all . 2hours of bombing on Russian soldiers and Russian military looking to the other
side ,ignoring calls for help.. is non sense.. any position of ISIS or NATO forces attacking Russia military will get bombed withing 5 minutes of a call for help.. if no planes on the air at that time..
and a precision response could happen in seconds with Russian artillery forward positions and ballistic missiles..

Neither Russia military deploys in same place in a zone is withing range of enemy artillery and neither an attack of so much time as NATO claims was 2 hours.. will be impossible to happen , because again Russian military are not monkeys and they all know is dangerous to be all in same place so close to the enemy positions. Not even in the battle of Palmyra that Russia military participated they had anywhere near such loses.. they only lost a hand pocket of soldiers.. not 300 or 400.. and when Russia bombs ISIS for an 1 hour.. they neither kill 300 or 400..
because the terrorist naturally figured out if they spread their forces over wide areas they will minimize significantly their casualties...

So either Reuters and western media are FULL OF SHIT , about Russia military campaign ,and the hint that they lie is that also  they put into question Russia success in syria with "so many casualties" that "Putins hide"....   when defeated ISIS..  or ISIS and Alqaeda are more effective than Russian army in protecting their militants..  

You are simply a victim of Media war disinformation.. never forget in wars the truth is the first
victim.. and NATO main tools of DISINFORMATION?  CNN ,Reuters, Syrian observatory human rights -a one man organization living in london.., Washington Post ,New York times ,MSNBC ,NBC ,Vice news..BBC ,APS.. but also NGOS like white helmets ,doctors without borders ,OSCE... etc.. So dont buy their bullshit.. whenever you read anything on internet.. thing in the logic behind what they report.. if it make sense at all..  similar propaganda was run in Ukraine ,that thousands of Russian soldiers killed..

starman wrote:They're getting ready to plaster the Idlib rebels?

i dont think this is going to happen , unless Russia split with Turkey..

Just today in the news.. after the meeting in Sochi.. Erdogan is doubling down
with their claims that only Turkey army should be in North of Syria.. I think it will be
better for Russia to delay permanently the operation and wait for a new Government to show up..
in Turkey ,because with erdogan ,he will never give up ,north of Syria.. he wants that as a trophy.

But any opposition government that gets in power in Turkey will reverse ERdgoan ambitions
in less than a week .. and recall all their military and restore for real ,relations with Russia.

similar propaganda was run in Ukraine, that thousands of Russian soldiers killed..

No, they said dozens or 100s, not thousands!

I think it will be better for Russia to delay permanently the operation and wait for a new Government to show up..

What r u smoking? They'll have to wait for a very long time before it happens! Even then, there's no guarantee they'll act contrary to Turkey's interests, as they understand them.
Pl. learn to express ur ideas concisely- it's annoying to see read ur long posts going in circles with so much repetition!
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/concisely

There was a meeting at Sochi with Russian, Syrian, Iranian, and Turkish officials and they all said Syrian territory is Syrian.

This suggests to me that Turkey and Iran has realised that any US supported anti Assad force or pro Kurd force controlled area would be a centre for terrorism and problems for all countries in the region and that it would be better if Assad took control of the entire country and then presumably imposed order and then held elections.

The only countries that don't want peace in the region met in another meeting in Europe... the usual war mongers like Israel and the US and the EU...

Believed to be on the way to St Petersburg for repairs/upgrade. Albeit probably via the Syrian coast for a bit of live firing practice.

Bosphorus Naval News
‏ @Saturn5_
Mar 14

Improved Kilo class submarine of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Krasnodar made a very rare and unexpected southbound passage through Istanbul. Montreux Convention. Art.12 allows submarines to exit the Black Sea only for repairs.

Incidently there could be what looks like a Naval buildup going on as there are now reputed to be 3 Imp Kilo in the Med, plus

Yörük Işık
‏Verified account @YorukIsik
7h7 hours ago

A final Syrian showdown looms: #ВМФ Project 1155 Northern Fleet Сф Udaloy class destroyer Severomorsk 619, armed with SA-N-9 Gauntlet/Kinzhal & SS-N-14 Silex/Rastrub & 533mm torpedoes, transited Bosphorus towards Mediterranean.

As well as


Michael J Sanchez
‏ @key2med
Mar 12

Russian Navy frigate Admiral Gorshkov and support ship Elbrus passed into the Mediterranean off #Gibraltar at 0010 this morning Tanker Kama approaching from the West No sign of Nikolay Chiker yet #OpWest


Capt(N)
‏ @Capt_Navy
7h7 hours ago

The tactical group of ships of the Northern Fleet of the ????????#Russian #Navy is now passing the Strait of Sicily. At the same time,the RFS 619 Severomorsk,a Udaloy Class destroyer passes through the Turkish straits.Probably their rendezvous take place on Sunday, south of Crete.

Isos wrote:

dino00 wrote:Confira o Tweet de @SyriaWarReports: https://twitter.com/SyriaWarReports/status/1115245352393768960?s=09

That makes a huge noise. Spreed microphones with signal processing softwares accross the country and you detect any missile attack. Better than radars as a early warning.

Russia needs attack drones..in service in Syria , the cost of using a million dollar cruise missiles
against terrorist that have no air defenses is ridiculous high.. If Russia had something like a
Predator drone , a hellfire missile even at americans prices ($115k) is significantly lower
than Kalibrs and have the advantage to hit with even better precision ,they drones attack on the spot ,with a clear view of the battlefield . Either Russia joins with China or Iran and develop cheap Attack drones with cheap precision missiles or else they will waste a fortune in cruise missiles..

Vann asleep as usual... they have a number of drones in development, but in the mean time they also have Su-30 and Su-24 and Su-34 aircraft dropping cheap dumb bombs on targets in Syria for quite some time now.

Russia has been using drones for a long time in Syria, and a lot of the bombing as garry states has been done using dumb bombs the
su-24M2 especially using its gefest and svp-24 upgrades makes bombing hell of a lot cheaper. As for drone strikes well Russia has been leaving Iran to do that role seeing as Iran has no combat aircraft in syria its only fair that they take over on drone strikes and drone recce and and they have pretty good experience in the field and using Shaheed 129 armed with sadid missiles they are sorted.

The Russian effort in Syria should be a text book for the US on how missions should be run... they have been more effective and at a fraction of the cost of the US effort...

Looking forward to seeing some of these new weapons being developed especially for drones in the 50kg to 100kg weight ranges... but I would think command guided missiles like ATAKA and Krisantema and Kornet would be absolutely ideal for air to ground use due to their low cost with cheap but accurate guidance and high flight speeds. (all about 400-450m/s)

GarryB wrote:Vann asleep as usual... they have a number of drones in development, but in the mean time they also have Su-30 and Su-24 and Su-34 aircraft dropping cheap dumb bombs on targets in Syria for quite some time now.

I know Russia is developing attack drones..

But Russia needs them NOW .. understand  the difference ?

And Combat planes are not a replacement for an attack drone , Because
they are very noisy and terrorist hide in their bunkers underground or simply disperse if they in the open and move tunnels they dig undergrounds.. So neutralizing the effectiness of Russian airforce..
and to make things worse NATO have RAdars inside Syria ,that warn the terrorist ,whenever Russia airforce is taking off ,for a bombing mission on them.. ,whenever they listen
the very loud noise of a Sukhoi plane.. While an Attack drone , can be very silent and could sneak right at the moment a major meeting of terrorist.. in the open ,or they dancing and celebrating their crimes.. and BOOM... bomb them with realtime logistic of the posicions of the terrorist.. A cruise missile can do the job to.. but the PRICE
difference is staggering ... is 10x times or more expensive $$.. to use cruise missiles.. thats the point..
and Russia needs attack drones Right now and not in 1 ,2 or 5 years..  In any future war , cheap attack drones , being build in the thousands is what will be the worse nightmare for terrorist who hide
in bunkers or in forest , to target them ,whenever they leave their hiding places..

But Russia needs them NOW .. understand the difference ?

Why do they need them now for?

Su-24s are quite effectively dropping cheap dumb bombs on targets without problem.

More importantly how many drones are there that drop 500kg bombs?

And Combat planes are not a replacement for an attack drone , Because
they are very noisy and terrorist hide in their bunkers underground or simply disperse if they in the open and move tunnels they dig undergrounds.. So neutralizing the effectiness of Russian airforce..

They are dropping their bombs from heights of 10km so those terrorists probably would not even see the Russian planes let alone hear them most of the time.

and to make things worse NATO have RAdars inside Syria ,that warn the terrorist ,whenever Russia airforce is taking off ,for a bombing mission on them.. ,whenever they listen
the very loud noise of a Sukhoi plane.. While an Attack drone , can be very silent and could sneak right at the moment a major meeting of terrorist.. in the open ,or they dancing and celebrating their crimes.. and BOOM... bomb them with realtime logistic of the posicions of the terrorist.. A cruise missile can do the job to.. but the PRICE

Cruise missiles tend to fly low and are generally louder than modern combat aircraft... and very few drones exist that can carry 500kg bombs... and the ones that do will be large and loud as well.

difference is staggering ... is 10x times or more expensive $$.. to use cruise missiles.. thats the point..
and Russia needs attack drones Right now and not in 1 ,2 or 5 years.. In any future war , cheap attack drones , being build in the thousands is what will be the worse nightmare for terrorist who hide

I disagree, the use of Su-24Ms means older cheaper aircraft are being used and air crews from Russia can be cycled through to get real combat experience and the dumb bombs they are dropping are as cheap as any dumb bombs a drone could drop.

Add to that the cheap use of laser guided artillery rounds with UAVs marking targets with lasers makes them rather cheap ways of taking out enemy targets too.

in bunkers or in forest , to target them ,whenever they leave their hiding places..

Their location will be given away by activity and communications.. both of which will be monitored...

They seem to be killing rather than their fair share of terrorists... especially compared with the US... who does have drones.