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Pretty much Ukraine IS doomed..
Five European countries block Ukraine’s path to EU membership — newspaper
http://tass.ru/en/world/866689
And not just any regular European nations but France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Austria .pretty much the major economies in Europe oppose Ukraine joining the EU..
So the whole Euromaidan revolution was good for nothing. It was for the start of the disbanding
of Ukraine into pieces. and Crimea ,Lugansk and Donetsk are just the start.
The interesting part here is what Europe ,the countries who oppose Ukraine joining EU told.
Is that ukraine have been historically close to Russia ,that they even share the same origins
,they both started in Kiev. and that for Ukraine to join the European Union it needs to have
good relations with Russia.
So basically the European Union ,the major economies there , is telling kiev ,that it needs
to restore relations with Russia ,accept the Crimea lost and return to minsk-2 if it wants a
chance to get in Europe. They even are suggesting that Ukraine should consider integration
with Russia. (with the kiev historical reference)
So basically Europe is hinting Russia and Ukraine that both needs to be together again . means Russia should not only take Crimea but all Ukraine too. Europeans are really tired of Ukrainians and they now all see the light that is better that Russia carry the burden of feeding Ukrainians and not them.
About Misnk-2 remember that as long Europeans still demand it, its alive. Its a Roadmap that needs to be implemented . there is not a timeline for it.. so people cannot talk about "failure".
As long Europe continues backing it.
I really think that kiev is simply following orders of the White House and or Pentagon. and the money Ukraine receive to continue the war , is done more than anything because the pentagon
wants to see what kind of weapons Russian army will use and what tactics etc. in other words.
The pentagon is using the lives of Ukrainians and foreign mercenaries and providing them more heavier weapons, to really see how Russia Army fights ,this will truly helps the Pentagon understand more than a million of NATO exercizes ,how to better prepare to fight Russia armed
forces.
So this is a major threat to Russia nation security. Because it is feeding information to the enemy of the capabilities it have. This means that Russia Government needs to help Donetsk and Lugansk fight kiev terror forces, and keep at the lowest level possible ,their technology
and tactics. to not provide too much information that later could help the Pentagon to better prepare to fight them.
How this all will end? after the voting of Europe rejecting Ukraine and even suggesting
them to Unite with Russia again. possibilities that could happen if kiev continues with the war.
What is 100% clear for me. is that Europe position in Ukraine is not the same of the Americans
they dont want the war to continue and they ready to capitulate with Russia. and already hinting
that Ukraine and Russia should be one nation again. (Which Russia should avoid like hell).
At best Ukraine should be split in two parts ,between pro Russia and pro Europe and the new pro Russia part become a new independent nation with close relations to Russia. While western Ukraine become a puppet of Americans ,baltics and Poland.
Possibilities. of what could happen in near future..
1)Major assasinations in Kiev ,done by the EU ,a counter Revolution by the EU
against American puppet government . Or it can be done without violence and just by bribing
them.
2)Unrest in other cities ,demanding the government to step down. Disbanding Ukraine.
3) That kiev forces with Americans help push forward with the hostilities against eastern
Ukraine forcing Russia to fire across the border at kiev positions. to push them back.
4)More false flags events.. where hundreds civilians killed and blamed on Russia.
5)That Americans simply allow ukraine to disband , only to create a major refugee
problem for Russia and Europe and damage their economies. the samsom option ,if it not mine will not be of anyone.
6)That Obama do the unthinkable and actually help Ukraine to end its war and reverse
the coup that their own government created and return Ukraine to a democratic state.
and return Ukraine laws and constitution to 2013 ,when Pro Russians factions had the control of kiev and the right sector forced to flee the country its major members. This of course could only happen only under a major pressure of Europe on US . threatening to lift sanctions on Russia and create an economic zone with Russia.. just quickexamples of how to pressure american government..
In any case ,no matter what happens , time is on the side of Russia. and not on the side
of Kiev. So the more the conflict is frozen ,delayed , the more likely Ukraine will capitulate
for being out of money to continue the war and with no more support to continue the war.
Five European countries block Ukraine’s path to EU membership — newspaper
http://tass.ru/en/world/866689
And not just any regular European nations but France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Austria .pretty much the major economies in Europe oppose Ukraine joining the EU..
So the whole Euromaidan revolution was good for nothing. It was for the start of the disbanding
of Ukraine into pieces. and Crimea ,Lugansk and Donetsk are just the start.
The interesting part here is what Europe ,the countries who oppose Ukraine joining EU told.
Is that ukraine have been historically close to Russia ,that they even share the same origins
,they both started in Kiev. and that for Ukraine to join the European Union it needs to have
good relations with Russia.
So basically the European Union ,the major economies there , is telling kiev ,that it needs
to restore relations with Russia ,accept the Crimea lost and return to minsk-2 if it wants a
chance to get in Europe. They even are suggesting that Ukraine should consider integration
with Russia.
(with the kiev historical reference)So basically Europe is hinting Russia and Ukraine that both needs to be together again . means Russia should not only take Crimea but all Ukraine too. Europeans are really tired of Ukrainians and they now all see the light that is better that Russia carry the burden of feeding Ukrainians and not them.
About Misnk-2 remember that as long Europeans still demand it, its alive. Its a Roadmap that needs to be implemented . there is not a timeline for it.. so people cannot talk about "failure".
As long Europe continues backing it.
I really think that kiev is simply following orders of the White House and or Pentagon. and the money Ukraine receive to continue the war , is done more than anything because the pentagon
wants to see what kind of weapons Russian army will use and what tactics etc. in other words.
The pentagon is using the lives of Ukrainians and foreign mercenaries and providing them more heavier weapons, to really see how Russia Army fights ,this will truly helps the Pentagon understand more than a million of NATO exercizes ,how to better prepare to fight Russia armed
forces.
So this is a major threat to Russia nation security. Because it is feeding information to the enemy of the capabilities it have. This means that Russia Government needs to help Donetsk and Lugansk fight kiev terror forces, and keep at the lowest level possible ,their technology
and tactics. to not provide too much information that later could help the Pentagon to better prepare to fight them.
How this all will end? after the voting of Europe rejecting Ukraine and even suggesting
them to Unite with Russia again. possibilities that could happen if kiev continues with the war.
What is 100% clear for me. is that Europe position in Ukraine is not the same of the Americans
they dont want the war to continue and they ready to capitulate with Russia. and already hinting
that Ukraine and Russia should be one nation again. (Which Russia should avoid like hell).
At best Ukraine should be split in two parts ,between pro Russia and pro Europe and the new pro Russia part become a new independent nation with close relations to Russia. While western Ukraine become a puppet of Americans ,baltics and Poland.
Possibilities. of what could happen in near future..
1)Major assasinations in Kiev ,done by the EU ,a counter Revolution by the EU
against American puppet government . Or it can be done without violence and just by bribing
them.
2)Unrest in other cities ,demanding the government to step down. Disbanding Ukraine.
3) That kiev forces with Americans help push forward with the hostilities against eastern
Ukraine forcing Russia to fire across the border at kiev positions. to push them back.
4)More false flags events.. where hundreds civilians killed and blamed on Russia.
5)That Americans simply allow ukraine to disband , only to create a major refugee
problem for Russia and Europe and damage their economies. the samsom option ,if it not mine will not be of anyone.
6)That Obama do the unthinkable and actually help Ukraine to end its war and reverse
the coup that their own government created and return Ukraine to a democratic state.
and return Ukraine laws and constitution to 2013 ,when Pro Russians factions had the control of kiev and the right sector forced to flee the country its major members. This of course could only happen only under a major pressure of Europe on US . threatening to lift sanctions on Russia and create an economic zone with Russia.. just quickexamples of how to pressure american government..
In any case ,no matter what happens , time is on the side of Russia. and not on the side
of Kiev. So the more the conflict is frozen ,delayed , the more likely Ukraine will capitulate
for being out of money to continue the war and with no more support to continue the war.
Last edited by Vann7 on Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:44 pm; edited 2 times in total
Walther von Oldenburg
