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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:06 am

    In short, Ukrainian militarymen are enraged because their living conditions are much much worse than the U.S. mecenaries.

    http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22885530.html

    Скандал в ВСУ: Солдат из США кормят как царей, украинских офицеров - как собак

    Украинские военные возмущены, что прилетевших в Незалежную американских солдат кормят "как дворян", а украинских офицеров - "как собак"

    Google translation wrote:Scandal in the APU: A soldier from the US fed as the kings, Ukrainian officers - like dogs

    Ukrainian military outraged that flew in Square US soldiers fed "like nobles", and Ukrainian officers - "like dogs"

    To be frank, Maidan volunteered to be the "собак" of the West, so now why they are complaining ?

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  kvs on Thu Mar 17, 2016 4:47 am

    higurashihougi wrote:In short, Ukrainian militarymen are enraged because their living conditions are much much worse than the U.S. mecenaries.

    http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22885530.html

    Скандал в ВСУ: Солдат из США кормят как царей, украинских офицеров - как собак

    Украинские военные возмущены, что прилетевших в Незалежную американских солдат кормят "как дворян", а украинских офицеров - "как собак"

    Google translation wrote:Scandal in the APU: A soldier from the US fed as the kings, Ukrainian officers - like dogs

    Ukrainian military outraged that flew in Square US soldiers fed "like nobles", and Ukrainian officers - "like dogs"

    To be frank, Maidan volunteered to be the "собак" of the West, so now why they are complaining ?

    Indeed. Zero sympathy for these criminal idiots.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:14 am

    kvs wrote:
    higurashihougi wrote:In short, Ukrainian militarymen are enraged because their living conditions are much much worse than the U.S. mecenaries.

    http://www.politonline.ru/interpretation/22885530.html

    Скандал в ВСУ: Солдат из США кормят как царей, украинских офицеров - как собак

    Украинские военные возмущены, что прилетевших в Незалежную американских солдат кормят "как дворян", а украинских офицеров - "как собак"

    Google translation wrote:Scandal in the APU: A soldier from the US fed as the kings, Ukrainian officers - like dogs

    Ukrainian military outraged that flew in Square US soldiers fed "like nobles", and Ukrainian officers - "like dogs"

    To be frank, Maidan volunteered to be the "собак" of the West, so now why they are complaining ?

    Indeed.  Zero sympathy for these criminal idiots.

    #MoldyBreadThugLife

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:50 am

    In other news Graham Phillips was banned from entering Latvia for 3 years for video recording Latvia's glorification of Nazi collaborators. Following in the footsteps of Lithuania, banning journalists for exposing how the criminally insane have taken over the govt. organs of the country... Razz Embarassed

    https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/710298974406746112

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4779003,00.html

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  higurashihougi on Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:20 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:In other news Graham Phillips was banned from entering Latvia for 3 years for video recording Latvia's glorification of Nazi collaborators. Following in the footsteps of Lithuania, banning journalists for exposing how  the criminally insane have taken over the govt. organs of the country... Razz Embarassed

    https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/710298974406746112

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4779003,00.html

    Why there are a large number of pro-Maidan dogs who constantly bark in Graham's page ? Is he keeping them for entertainment ?

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:35 am

    Couple of gems from DoniNews quoting a guy in Kiev who should perhaps now be watching his back

    This was stated by Sergey Belashko, the director of the Agency of Social Communications, at a press conference in Kiev, reports The Politnavigator.

    ‘If we look at the relationship of subordination, we can speak of neo-feudal relations. When a person tries to get a post, the first question to him is whose you are. Either he is a man of Poroshenko, or Yatsenyuk, or someone else. The situation is the same down to the sub-rayon level. Even posts of a rural surveyor are not taken without connections - either it is a daughter of the chairman of the village council, or a niece or a friend's girlfriend. Having taken this position, a person must pay his patron an administrative rent. And the rent is an integral part of the functioning of the political class,’ explains the expert the situation in Ukraine.



    Such a forecast was presented by Sergey Belashko, he director of the Agency of Social Communications, at a press conference in Kiev, reports The Politnavigator.

    ‘The main strategic error made by the Ukrainian regime in recent months is that, I do not know why, but they thought that time was on their side. However, time is working against them. In fact, it has already worked, and they have run out of it. Now, within just a few weeks, we will obviously see a fundamental change in the disposition. Either Ukraine will start the implementation of the Minsk Agreements and take painful and unpopular decisions, or it will lose the support of the West. At least, the support of the European Union, as the US support is of a different nature. Ukraine is just a small fragment of a mosaic map of the American politics,’ pointed out the political scientist.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  JohninMK on Thu Mar 17, 2016 7:55 pm

    Mmmm six hours of no firing?

    Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Deputy Chief Monitor to Ukraine Alexander Hug has said that the situation in the area of the Yasynuvata checkpoint and the Donetsk water filtering station has stabilized.

    Re-launching the filtering station requires more than simply pressing the 'Start' button, he said. Rather, it is a process which takes almost six hours, he added.

    Consequently, it is necessary to ensure that this quiet situation and tranquility continue in order to enable the station's employees to continue their work, Hug said.

    Earlier on Thursday, Hug met with employees of the Donetsk water filtering station and visited a checkpoint in the Yasynuvata area.


    http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/331388.html

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  Militarov on Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:59 pm



    DNR armed forces exercise counter-offensive operations

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  TheArmenian on Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:42 am

    Yasinovatya. 16 march 2016
    Opolchenya firing RPG-7 at Ukrainian positions:


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  JohninMK on Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:54 pm

    Another gem

    Our intelligence discovered the fact of delivery of an experimental drone by Ukrainian volunteers to units of the 13th separate mechanised infantry battalion of the 58th separate mechanised infantry brigade, situated in the area of the locality of Avdeevka. The personnel of the battalion, together with the volunteers, tried to turn it into an “attack drone” to bombard the DPR localities from the air. The works on it were being carried out in a tent. When the military were hanging grenades on the aircraft not designed for such purposes, a grenade exploded and the tent caught fire, which resulted in three Ukrainian military killed and four wounded. The drone burnt together with the tent, as well as all the equipment passed by volunteers, including two American “Motorolla” radio stations.

    In addition, according to our intelligence, in the area of the locality of Andreevka, in the zone of responsibility of a tank battalion of the 72nd separate mechanised infantry brigade, a “Hammer” vehicle hit a Ukrainian mine, which resulted in three soldiers killed and two wounded.

    You cannot help wondering who the AFU units are fighting against. They suffer losses only due to the lack of order, continuing crimes and alcoholism among their military.


    https://dninews.com/article/donetsk-defense-situation-report-18032016

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  ultron on Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:23 pm

    It is clear Ukraine used Minsk to prevent rebels taking Kiev and replacing Poroshenko with a pro Russia president. Ukraine never intended to implement its Minsk promises. When Minsk was signed, Ukraine had already lost hundreds of armored fighting vehicles so they were no longer able to defend Kiev from rebel offensive and rebels would have taken Kiev had Minsk not been signed.

    2810 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far. As long as rebels do not take back Kiev, fighting will never stop even though Minsk was signed to prevent either side from doing an offensive.

    http://memorybook.org.ua/

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  Ispan on Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:56 pm

    ultron wrote:It is clear Ukraine used Minsk to prevent rebels taking Kiev and replacing Poroshenko with a pro Russia president. Ukraine never intended to implement its Minsk promises. When Minsk was signed, Ukraine had already lost hundreds of armored fighting vehicles so they were no longer able to defend Kiev from rebel offensive and rebels would have taken Kiev had Minsk not been signed.

    I doubt it as the Ukranian army though beaten still had substantial forces. However they could have taken Mariupol and reached the Dnieper creating a land bridge to Crimea. We will never know until the history of this war is written some decades into the future.

    There were good reasons for Russia playing along with Minsk. To win time, and because any sudden collapse of Ukraine would have created a repeat of the Korean War. Moscow wants a replay of Vietnam instead.



    2810 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far.
    http://memorybook.org.ua/

    Ten times that. At the very least those 2,800 confirmed plus 6,500 unknown buried

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2015/11/dpr-ukraine-has-lost-24000-soldiers-is.html


    I would like auslander comment on this. There has always been the possibility that Ukraine attacks Crimea to provoke Russia into war, but it never occurred to me that Russia could retaliate without using the regular army. Is an intriguig possibilty.

    https://dninews.com/article/crimean-deputy-announced-militia%E2%80%99s-advance-kherson

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  ultron on Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:47 pm

    I thought Yanukovych requested Russian military intervention to recapture Kiev from coupers. Putin should have done it since Yanukovych is the legal president of Ukraine. This whole Ukraine issue would have been a non issue.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  auslander on Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:41 am

    There is no chance of the orcs directly attacking Krimea and/or Sevastopol, they may be crazy and stupid but they are not suicidal. Remember, to attack in numbers they have to cross water, Krimea is actually an island. The RA is near the borders in force and you can rest assured some pretty good recon boys are up there.

    On the other hand there is the possibility of terrorist attacks. Hardly a week passes without some orc or group of orcs taken in to custody, generally but not always in Krimea Republic, a few in this city.

    Russia has made it very clear that an attack on Krimea and/or Sevastopol will be considered to be the same as an attack on Moskau or St. Petersburg and the response would be the same, devastating and violent counterattack. This fact has been communicated both publicly and privately to those who may have considered such actions and that includes Washington, London, Berlin and Warsaw.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  ExBeobachter1987 on Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:49 am

    Crimean feelings towards joining Russia 1994-2016

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  Khepesh on Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:13 pm

    Basurin has said that today after a visit to Yasinovataya by OSCE, ukrops attempted a breakthru. Basurin says ukrops used flamethrowers, so I presume he meant "Shmel", and the attack was defeated by VSN 11th Guards Regiment with the loss of one killed and five wounded. http://dnr-news.com/dnr/30952-basurin-vsu-predprinyali-popytku-proryva-vglub-territorii-dnr-v-rayone-yasinovatoy.html

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  Ispan on Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:28 pm

    There is still no briefing in english, but the spanish site of Slavyangrad is updated often, there is a briefing of today's fighting. Things continue heating up.

    http://slavyangrad.es/2016/03/19/mientras-tanto-en-donbass/

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  Odin of Ossetia on Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:08 pm

    ultron wrote:It is clear Ukraine used Minsk to prevent rebels taking Kiev and replacing Poroshenko with a pro Russia president. Ukraine never intended to implement its Minsk promises. When Minsk was signed, Ukraine had already lost hundreds of armored fighting vehicles so they were no longer able to defend Kiev from rebel offensive and rebels would have taken Kiev had Minsk not been signed.

    2810 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far. As long as rebels do not take back Kiev, fighting will never stop even though Minsk was signed to prevent either side from doing an offensive.

    http://memorybook.org.ua/


    Soldiers, but add to that members of the National Guard, Police, various secret services, and armed members of the Right Sector.

    Also ethnic Ukrainian volunteers from Canada, Poland, U.S.A. and other countries.

    So I think the number of the Ukrainian fatalities is larger.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  higurashihougi on Sun Mar 20, 2016 3:28 pm

    I cannot read Russian, but it seems like a female 27 yrs-old Russian reporter has lost her life at Gorlovka. Her name is Elena Lineva.

    https://www.facebook.com/dmitry.bokatov.7/posts/977570225652643

    Can anybody translate it ?

    Срочно!
    На Донбассе погибла российская журналистка НТВ Елена Липнева

    20.03.16 в ДНР в результате атаки, предпринятой украинскими карателями, была убита журналистка НТВ Елена Липнева. Трагедия, унёсшая жизнь 27-летней россиянки, произошла на севере города Горловки.

    Елена со съёмочной группой НТВ попала под обстрел во время съёмки разрушений домов от снарядов и мин карателей в северной части Горловки. Во время работы съёмочной группы украинские военные открыли огонь по населённому пункту из БТР и миномётов. В итоге оператор группы Константин Захлебный получил тяжёлые ранения в грудь и в голову. Елене оторвало руку и контузило. Бойцы ДНР вынесли Елену из-под огня, на помощь была срочно направлена карета скорой помощи, но жизнь журналистки медбригаде спасти не удалось, она скончалась по дороге в больницу. В Москве у Елены остался полуторагодовалый ребёнок и муж-инвалид. Коллега Елены Константин Захлебный сейчас находится в реанимации больницы города Донецка.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:39 am

    WWII according to #Ukraine MSM.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  magnumcromagnon on Mon Mar 21, 2016 12:40 am

    Long column of tanks spotted 15km N. of #Gorlovka. Ukrops getting ready to attack.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  KoTeMoRe on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:00 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:WWII according to #Ukraine MSM.


    Yeah the Italians just weren't part of the invasion. SMH....

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  Ispan on Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:12 am

    Ispan wrote:

    2810 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed so far.
    http://memorybook.org.ua/

    Ten times that. At the very least those 2,800 confirmed plus 6,500 unknown buried

    http://www.fort-russ.com/2015/11/dpr-ukraine-has-lost-24000-soldiers-is.html


    Numbers keep growing up. This is the latest burial, form the Ukrops themselves



    2016/02/20 • News, War in the Donbas

    Seven unknown soldiers who died fighting in the Donbas were buried in Krasnopilsk cemetery, Dnipropetrovsk.

    Look at the registry number.



    "Here rests an unknown Defender of Ukraine, No.8369, Eternal memory!"

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  JohninMK on Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:38 pm

    Very 'straight' report out of Kiev.

    The Donetsk City Court of Rostov region has convicted Ukrainian pilot Nadia Savchenko, who is charged with killing Russian journalists in the self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, an Interfax correspondent has reported.

    "Nadia Viktorivna Savchenko committed the killing of Kornelyuk and Voloshin by a group of persons by previous concert for hatred and enmity motives," Leonid Stepanenko, the chairman of the collegium of judges, said. Stepanenko said Savchenko also illegally crossed the Russian border.

    The court found that Savchenko secretly entered the area where LPR militant positions were located in the area of the village of Stukalova Balka on June 17, 2014. The court believes Savchenko mounted a 40-meter high television tower and began watching a former traffic police post, which was located 2.6 km from her.

    The court collegium decided that the Ukrainian citizen had found in that territory six civilians and three Russian journalists and provided that information to Serhiy Melnychuk, commander of the battalion Aidar (a separate case has been opened on the basis of that), who made a decision to open fire on that territory using D-30 howitzers. In accordance with the document, fire was opened from a distance of not more than ten kilometers. Savchenko coordinated artillery fire during the attack, the sentence states.

    During the presentation of arguments, the state prosecutors asked the court to sentence Savchenko to 23 years in prison. The state prosecutors believed the evidence presented by the prosecutors was logical, confirmed by the case materials and sufficient to find the culprit guilty.


    More on this including the counter argument that she was nowhere near it at http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/332051.html


    No other political comment. Only this out of Moscow, also Interfax


    The Kremlin declines to comment on a sentence handed down to Ukrainian servicewoman Nadiya Savchenko until the sentence is fully read out, Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov has said. "As you know, the sentence will be read out today and tomorrow, so I cannot make any comments as of yet," he told the press.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #24

    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:09 pm

    Ukrainian servicemen keep deserting to Crimea:


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