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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Rmf on Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:50 pm

    tested pumbing and some smaller components ,propeller axle & submarine movable joint ,etc.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:56 pm

    Rmf wrote:tested pumbing and some smaller components ,propeller axle & submarine movable joint ,etc.


    Doesn't sound as an impressive milestone.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  hoom on Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:33 am

    Via r/WarshipPorn Severodvinsk in dry dock, apparently recent


    Edit: Here's a pretty shot via Keypublishing but its from Balancer forum.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:05 pm

    Second Yasen-class nuclear submarine to be put afloat on March 30

    The second Yasen-class multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine Kazan will be put afloat in Russia's Severodvinsk on March 30

    MOSCOW, March 14. /TASS/. The second Yasen-class multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine Kazan will be put afloat in Severodvinsk on March 30, a source in the Russian military-industrial complex informed TASS.

    "Kazan is expected to be rolled out and put afloat on March 30," he said.

    "Kazan" has been built at the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk, a port city in Russia’s White Sea, since 2009. This is the second Yasen-class submarine and first submarine built under the upgraded project 885M. A source at Sevmash earlier told TASS that "Kazan" would be transferred to the Russian Navy in 2018.

    The Yasen-class nuclear-powered multi-purpose submarines have been designed by the St. Petersburg Malakhit (Malachite) Marine Engineering Bureau. The first Project 885 submarine cruiser "Severodvinsk" was transfer to the Russian Navy on June 17, 2014.

    The multipurpose nuclear-powered submarines "Kazan," "Novosibirsk", "Krasnoyarsk," "Arkhangelsk" and "Perm" are built under the upgraded Yasen-M project. It is planned to build a total of seven submarines.


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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  gaurav on Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:59 am

    So much secrecy surrounding yasen submarine.Evrything is ready and yet we do not have a single word of its missile systems.
    Let it start the actual trials.
    Yasen is coming very early for Russian navy compared to other russian naval projects

    Nakhimov project in 2020
    Peter the great modernization 2025
    Project 949AM in 2020 may be even 2025
    other Leader class destroyer again 2025..

    Stormm aircraft carrier 2030
    Keznetsov mordernization 2025 or even 2030.

    It is is only yasen-M that is coming online in 2019 -2020.May be in in 2020 we will have 2-3 yasen-M subs deployed.
    It is because of this early completion of yasen-m the secrecy surrounding yasen is very high.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:53 am

    gaurav wrote:So much secrecy surrounding yasen submarine.Evrything is ready and yet we do not have a single word of its missile systems.
    Let it start the actual trials.
    Yasen is coming very early for Russian navy compared to other russian naval projects

    Nakhimov project in 2020
    Peter the great modernization 2025
    Project 949AM in 2020 may be even 2025
    other Leader class destroyer again 2025..

    Stormm aircraft carrier 2030
    Keznetsov mordernization 2025 or even 2030.

    It is is only yasen-M that is coming online in 2019 -2020.May be in in 2020 we will have 2-3 yasen-M subs deployed.
    It is because of this early completion of yasen-m the secrecy surrounding yasen is very high.

    i doubt that i will be in forum until 2025.. unshaven


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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  miketheterrible on Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:45 am

    Why? Are you expecting to kick it early?
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  gaurav on Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:51 pm

    George1 wrote:i doubt that i will be in forum until 2025..  
    You are one of the pillars of russiadefence if yu go we will left to dry .. with information black out.
    It is yur hardwork that keeps us abreast of latest developments in Russia.

    miketheterrible wrote: Are you expecting to kick it earl
    We can compare with other projects.For e.g Project 949A.We know that all submarines are already deployed.
    There is hardly any submarine left to go for repairs, re work, re-design.Some articles are calling for changing the launchers
    949A that does not seem feasible at all.
    It will take ages to do that. Compared to that yasen is ready to float with the equipment ready for testing.
    There is huge amount of difference between pr949A upgrade and yasen-M project as far as their timeline are concerned.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  hoom on Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:02 am

    Yasen is coming very early for Russian navy compared to other russian naval projects
    This is sarcasm?
    Kazan was laid down in 2009 so hardly rapid.
    About same speed as Astutes so far.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:22 pm

    hoom wrote:
    Yasen is coming very early for Russian navy compared to other russian naval projects
    This is sarcasm?
    Kazan was laid down in 2009 so hardly rapid.
    About same speed as Astutes so far.

    Kazan was still riding the 90's wave financial ''abundance'' and is heavily redesigned to boot so that ate into some time.

    Next one should give us pretty accurate build time.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:03 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    hoom wrote:
    Yasen is coming very early for Russian navy compared to other russian naval projects
    This is sarcasm?
    Kazan was laid down in 2009 so hardly rapid.
    About same speed as Astutes so far.

    Kazan was still riding the 90's wave financial ''abundance'' and is heavily redesigned to boot so that ate into some time.

    Next one should give us pretty accurate build time.

    Kazan is the first RUSSIAN submarine.

    And the most complicated military system manufactured ever in RUSSIA.

    They had to create complete industries for it.

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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Austin on Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:51 am

    Longish Interview with general director of St. Petersburg Maritime Engineering Bureau "Malachite" Vladimir Dorofeev on Yasen Program

    http://tass.ru/opinions/interviews/4104781
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  George1 on Tue Mar 21, 2017 1:50 pm

    Russia's second upgraded Yasen-class project 885M submarine will be floated out on March 31, the Sevmash shipbuilder said Tuesday.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Russia plans to have at least eight Yasen class cruise-missile carrying attack vessels in its submarine fleet.

    https://sputniknews.com/military/201703211051799128-russia-borei-submarine/


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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Kimppis on Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:10 pm

    So 7 is not the final amount? 7 is kind of a strange number anyway... Why not 6 or 8? I know they are going to have another class to replace most older SSNs and/or they can order more Yasens like after 2025, but just wondering...
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  franco on Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:33 pm

    Kimppis wrote:So 7 is not the final amount? 7 is kind of a strange number anyway... Why not 6 or 8? I know they are going to have another class to replace most older SSNs and/or they can order more Yasens like after 2025, but just wondering...  

    I'll wait until I hear some Military guy say that instead of a reporter. Wink
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Singular_Transform on Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:59 pm

    franco wrote:
    Kimppis wrote:So 7 is not the final amount? 7 is kind of a strange number anyway... Why not 6 or 8? I know they are going to have another class to replace most older SSNs and/or they can order more Yasens like after 2025, but just wondering...  

    I'll wait until I hear some Military guy say that instead of a reporter. Wink

    I'm manufacturing guy, and as it seems they already started to manufacture the sixth new boat when they realised how mindblowingly expensive they are.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  George1 on Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:35 am

    SEVERODVINSK, March 31. /TASS/. Another multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine Kazan has been launched at the Sevmash shipyards, a TASS correspondent reports from the scene of the event.

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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  zg18 on Fri Mar 31, 2017 12:39 pm

    George1 wrote:
    SEVERODVINSK, March 31. /TASS/. Another multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine Kazan has been launched at the Sevmash shipyards, a TASS correspondent reports from the scene of the event.

    More:
    http://tass.com/defense/938628



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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:12 am

    Clearly no pump jet or propulsor ducts then...  My guess is that the Russians don't want their SSNs to be hampered with the performance penalties that pump jets impose, and/or don't think they are worth the cost?

    I'll be interested in seeing more of her hull and the build quality.  To my eye, the Severodvinsk looked a little rough in patchs, no doubt due to her...  shall we say...  prolonged gestation....
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:32 am

    Pump jets must be yet another example of "superior" US technology that stupid Russians can't match.

    I can see a good reason for not using them: they are a sound resonance box. The last thing Russian engineers would
    want is for some harmonics of the propeller noise to be boosted for the pleasure of American sonars.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  kvs on Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:34 am

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    franco wrote:
    Kimppis wrote:So 7 is not the final amount? 7 is kind of a strange number anyway... Why not 6 or 8? I know they are going to have another class to replace most older SSNs and/or they can order more Yasens like after 2025, but just wondering...  

    I'll wait until I hear some Military guy say that instead of a reporter. Wink

    I'm manufacturing guy, and as it seems they already started to manufacture the sixth new boat when they realised how mindblowingly expensive they are.

    If Russia can afford to blow a few tens of billions on Banderastan, it can afford a few billion on submarines vital for its survival.
    And as we have seen with the Project 636.3 boats, Russian prices are a small fraction of what Yankees and Brits shell out for
    their subs.
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  George1 on Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:13 pm

    The might of Russia's advanced nuclear submarine

    Russia's armament program through 2020 envisages the construction of six new Yasen-class submarines, armed with eight vertical silos for cruise missiles and ten torpedo tubes

    TASS-FACTBOX. March 31, 2017. The Sevmash Shipyard in Severodvinsk in northern Russia has floated out the second Project 885 Yasen-class nuclear submarine Kazan.

    The Project 885 (08850) Yasen-class fourth-generation multipurpose nuclear submarine was developed in the 1990s by the St. Petersburg-based Malakhit Design Bureau of Maritime Machine-Building under the direction of Chief Designer Vladimir Popov. The submarine is based on the Projects 705(K) Lira and 971 Shchuka-B. Sevmash, which is located in Severodvinsk in the Arkhangelsk Region and is part of the United Ship-Building Corporation, is the shipyard engaged in the construction of Yasen-class submarines.

    The Project 885 Yasen-class submarine is designed to destroy an enemy’s submarines and surface ships, naval bases, ports, naval task forces and other targets. The Yasen-class submarine’s one-and-a-half hull design (the outer hull giving the submarine its streamlined shape is present only in its forepart).

    Submarine’s performance characteristics

    According to public sources, the Project 885 submarine is about 139 meters long and about 13 meters wide and has a draft of 10 meters. The submarine displaces 8,600 tonnes in its surface position and up to 13,800 tonnes in its underwater position. It can submerge to a maximum depth of 600 meters and develops a speed of 16 knots in its surface position and up to 31 knots in its underwater position. The submarine has a sea endurance of 100 days and a crew of 85-90 men. It is equipped with a single-shaft steam turbine nuclear power unit with a capacity of about 43,000 hp. The submarine’s OK-650V water-cooled and water-moderated reactor has a thermal capacity of 190 MW (modernized Project 885M submarines will be outfitted with a power unit of over 200 MW).

    The Project 885 submarine is armed with eight vertical silos for Oniks and Kalibr cruise missiles, ten 533mm torpedo tubes with an ammunition load of 30 torpedoes each. Submarines of this type can be eventually armed with new Kh-101 (Kh-102) cruise missiles and universal deep-water homing torpedoes.

    Submarine series

    The Project 885 lead submarine K-560 Severodvinsk (Factory No. 160) was laid down at the Sevmash Shipyard on December 21, 1993, floated out on June 15, 2010, delivered to the Russian Navy for operational evaluation on December 30, 2013 and made operational in the Northern Fleet on June 17, 2014.

    The other submarines of this series are being built under the modernized Project 885M (08851) Yasen-M. They are characterized by the optimized hull shape and upgraded electronic warfare and automation systems.

    A contract for the construction of a submarine with Factory No. 161 was signed between Russia’s Defense Ministry and the Sevmash Shipyard on December 6, 2005. The construction of five submarines of this series with Factory Nos. 162-166 is stipulated by a contract of November 9, 2011 concluded with the United Ship-Building Corporation.


    •    The second submarine, the K-561 Kazan (Factory No. 161), was laid down on July 24, 2009, floated out on March 31, 2017 and is expected to be delivered to the Russian Navy in 2018.


    •    The third submarine, the K-573 Novosibirsk (Factory No. 162), was laid down on July 26, 2013 and is scheduled to be delivered to the Navy in December 2019.


    •    The fourth submarine, the K-571 Krasnoyarsk (Factory No. 163), was laid down on July 27, 2014 and is expected to be delivered to the Navy in December 2020.


    •    The fifth submarine, the K-564 Arkhangelsk (Factory No. 164), was laid down on March 19, 2015 and is expected to be delivered to the Navy in December 2021.


    •    The sixth submarine Perm (Factory No. 165) was laid down on July 29, 2016 and is expected to be delivered to the Navy in December 2022.


    The state armament program through 2020 envisages the construction of six Yasen-class submarines. Another underwater cruiser, the Ulyanovsk (Factory No. 166), is expected to be laid down in July 2017 and delivered to the Navy in 2023.


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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Arrow on Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:16 pm

    The submarine’s OK-650V water-cooled and water-moderated reactor has a thermal capacity of 190 MW wrote:

    So Yasen-M use new reactor or old OK-650V?
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    Re: Project 885: Yasen class

    Post  Singular_Transform on Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:06 pm

    The kazan should have ten VLS and eight tube by wiki.

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