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The Situation in the Ukraine. #23
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This is all on the presumption that Kiev will simply let itself dissolve, that they have no idea of any plans, fictional or other wise, that they are incapable of having their own plan, that they will simply fade away, that Washington will allow them to fade away. HmPapaDragon wrote:
If we rewind back to last summer you will remember that we argued about what the strategy for dealing with Kiev is and reasons for ceasefire and Minsk2 accord.
Several of us here (and many more beyond) believed that the plan is to give opportunity to gang in Kiev to bury itself and Ukraine with it to the ground.
Fast forward to today and we can see the results already: Ukraine is nosediving, economically, politically and socially. Population is worse off than ever before, money is running out, Nazis are on a rampage, junta are devouring each other and Kiev's sponsors are becoming increasingly frustrated with their project. Economy, migrant crisis, Mid East and other stuff also helped a bit on that front.
What happens next? We all know that Ukraine can only survive if it get money from abroad and only way to do that (in their opinion!!!) is to convince everyone that they are invaded by NAF/Russia. This would mean starting suicidal offensive.
Common wisdom says that you should not stop your enemy from harming itself and that is pretty much what is going on right now (just look at news coming from Kiev controlled Ukraine, you posted plenty of it yourselves). You also know the expression "don't go looking for trouble oor the trouble may find you". It also applies here too.
NAF should not start attack on the UAF lines. But when ukrops do get desperate enough and attack Novo, NAF should counterattack, no hold barred, full throttle, pedal to the metal and not stop until they they take as much ground as possible within reasonable risk margins for their troops.
I fully believe that this is how things will play out. I also think that NAF will either intentionally not liberate entire Donbass and leave out some small parts or go beyond borders of two regions and take chunks of neighboring regions as well. No third option. Reason? Because that way they can continue to exert pressure on Kiev and prevent ukropstan part from declaring "independence" from Ukraine Yeltsin-style.
When will the ball start rolling? I do not know exactly but as we all can plainly see Kiev is nowhere near done with destroying itself. NAF should let them continue do their work for them, train, equip and be prepared to do their part when time comes.
Shellings are unfortunate and tragic reality but this is war and there will be losses. No other way around it. Line needs to be placed somewhere and this is how things are for now.
I disagree with Auslander's opinion that there will be some big sanctions and whatnot on Russia from the West as a result. Ukrops have been burning trough their diplomatic capital at astounding rate and are no longer darlings of "free world". And many in the West are pretty tired of this fiasco already. (see paragraph 3)
There will be plenty of yelling of course but, like in Syria, it will be little more than background noise from Russia's perspective. Times are changing fast.
I was not wrong last year to make the posts I did because it was not clear that there would be Kiev offensive, which would have failed and the problem of bombardments solved in the process. The Debaltsevo operation would, if it had gone according to plan, also taken Dezerzhinsk and so relieved the pressure on Gorlovka. The Debaltsevo operation did not start WWIII, or anything, so why would an operation later in the year against Dzerzhinsk have caused major problems? This year nobody is saying that any VSN offensive, even on limited scale, should take place without there first being serious military action by Kiev. As yet there are no serious bombardments on the scale of last year taking place, tho I think they soon will. Yet even then you will not hear me calling for any VSN offensives because I am sure to about 70% that Kiev will soon launch major operations, and the counter offensive will also have the effect of stopping any bombardments. Last year these bombardments went on non-stop from the beginning of January until the begining of September, too long, and IMO at least Dzerzhinsk should have been taken, not what eventually happened with some minor counter battery fire on ukrops positions around Dzerzhinsk to make it seem something was being done.
Last weekend there were usual breifings from Kiev and Basurin and nobody pays attention, a pity, because for once their briefings correlated with each other concerning troop build up at Marinka and Petrovsky, in clear violation of Minsk. Yesterday ukrops kicked OSCE out of Shirokino because they have become irrelevant to both sides, or will be soon. Movements of heavy equipment up to the front and also in clear violation of Minsk take place right under noses of OSCE. It is common knowledge in Donetsk, that, oh, my keyboard stopped working properдн, црфе ф ырфьу, блять
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Interesting article on "Lenta" about what happened at Shirokino. OSCE do not exactly admit they were kicked out, but as ukrops units moved in, OSCE certainly left. The article also points out that this movement into Shirokino is unusual and does not have any purpose other than if operations are soon to begin. The article then deals with the wider picture of what seems to be a slide to war. I won't translate it all, but this part about the ukrops build up of forces around Avdeevka is interesting. It says that the build up on the strategic arc, they mean around western and northern Donetsk, is alarming, and that 58th OMBR has up to five thousand men with armor and artillery. There are a further three battalions at nearby Kamenka and Novoselovka, they are to the NE of Avdeevka. A little behind the front at Ocheretovka the brigade keeps 160 armored vehicles, a field hospital and a unit of S-300. The article ends by saying that ukrops movements are not routine rotation and say that even if what happens is for domestic propaganda purposes, it could trigger real fighting. http://lenta.ru/articles/2016/02/25/shirokino/
Edit: Just to be clear about why the article mentions 58th OMBR, is that is has been heavily re-enforced and contains more men and equipment normally necessary for the width of front they are deployed on, unless of course the brigade has the task of being a breakthro unit. At the moment the mood music is that ukrops will attempt to smash thro on the narrow sektor Avdeevka-Yasinovataya, with what has happened over the last days being probing operations.
Edit: Just to be clear about why the article mentions 58th OMBR, is that is has been heavily re-enforced and contains more men and equipment normally necessary for the width of front they are deployed on, unless of course the brigade has the task of being a breakthro unit. At the moment the mood music is that ukrops will attempt to smash thro on the narrow sektor Avdeevka-Yasinovataya, with what has happened over the last days being probing operations.
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A bit more from the Kiev PR machine
KIEV, February 25 /TASS/. The Ukrainian armed forces regained control over Shirokino, a populated locality on the line of contact separating the Ukrainian troops from the Donbass militias, a few days ago, the press center of Kiev’s security operation in eastern Ukraine said. "Our units have taken this populated locality under their control. They are minesweeping the territory and liquidating explosive devices," the press center wrote on its official page in Facebook.
Until recently, the Shirokino village has been one of the worst trouble spots on the disengagement line in Donbass. On June 16, 2015, the authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) evacuated all the people from Shirokino. They unilaterally proclaimed Shirokino to be a demilitarized zone on July 1, 2015. The militias left Shirokino the next day.
On July 4, 2015, the leaders of the Joint Control and Coordination Center and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) met in Shirokino to discuss the village’s final demilitarization. They suggested deploying a checkpoint of a monitoring group comprising representatives of Kiev, Russia and Donetsk in the JCCC and OSCE monitors in Shirokino. The Kiev government later refused to support this proposal.
More: http://tass.ru/en/world/859023
NATO will send the systems necessary for mine sweeping and clearing of the territory of Donbas controlled by Kyiv from unexploded ordnance in spring, Acting Head of Ukraine's Mission to NATO Yehor Bozhok reported. "In spring, Ukraine will receive the demining equipment and it will be ready for service at the beginning of the so-called season of demining, i.e. by May," he said in comments to the European truth Internet publication during the seminar on the security challenges on the borders of Ukraine on Thursday.
Bozhok noted that Ukraine will receive two full sets of equipment - from cars to clothing. "One set will be used in Donetsk region, and another in Luhansk region. Each set is designed for 11 employees of the State Emergencies Service," the diplomat said. In his words, this equipment will be allocated in the framework of NATO's Science for Peace and Security program.
http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/327608.html
KIEV, February 25 /TASS/. The Ukrainian armed forces regained control over Shirokino, a populated locality on the line of contact separating the Ukrainian troops from the Donbass militias, a few days ago, the press center of Kiev’s security operation in eastern Ukraine said. "Our units have taken this populated locality under their control. They are minesweeping the territory and liquidating explosive devices," the press center wrote on its official page in Facebook.
Until recently, the Shirokino village has been one of the worst trouble spots on the disengagement line in Donbass. On June 16, 2015, the authorities of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) evacuated all the people from Shirokino. They unilaterally proclaimed Shirokino to be a demilitarized zone on July 1, 2015. The militias left Shirokino the next day.
On July 4, 2015, the leaders of the Joint Control and Coordination Center and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) met in Shirokino to discuss the village’s final demilitarization. They suggested deploying a checkpoint of a monitoring group comprising representatives of Kiev, Russia and Donetsk in the JCCC and OSCE monitors in Shirokino. The Kiev government later refused to support this proposal.
More: http://tass.ru/en/world/859023
NATO will send the systems necessary for mine sweeping and clearing of the territory of Donbas controlled by Kyiv from unexploded ordnance in spring, Acting Head of Ukraine's Mission to NATO Yehor Bozhok reported. "In spring, Ukraine will receive the demining equipment and it will be ready for service at the beginning of the so-called season of demining, i.e. by May," he said in comments to the European truth Internet publication during the seminar on the security challenges on the borders of Ukraine on Thursday.
Bozhok noted that Ukraine will receive two full sets of equipment - from cars to clothing. "One set will be used in Donetsk region, and another in Luhansk region. Each set is designed for 11 employees of the State Emergencies Service," the diplomat said. In his words, this equipment will be allocated in the framework of NATO's Science for Peace and Security program.
http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/327608.html
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Khepesh wrote:............................
This is all on the presumption that Kiev will simply let itself dissolve, that they have no idea of any plans, fictional or other wise, that they are incapable of having their own plan, that they will simply fade away, that Washington will allow them to fade away. Hm
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Kiev does have the plans but so does the other side. And just because Kiev and sugardaddy have plans does not mean that they will be able to implement them especially given their recent track record.
For Russia this is not just about Novorussia anymore. It is about whole Ukrainian territory (or most of it at least). I am using phrase 'Ukrainian territory' because it is unlikely that they plan to keep Ukraine as a country in any recognizable form when all is said and done.
Russia got shafted before by West and now they want to play it safe an take the whole thing.
That whole thing may come in one piece (very unlikely) or more probably in several smaller pieces, a combination of new republics (Crimea style), friendly independent states, client states and neutral but dependent buffer zone regions/countries/whatever they come up with.
Desired outcome is more ambitious now, but that means that process will have a lot more moving parts and will take longer to play out, naturally.
Khepesh wrote:.............
Last weekend there were usual breifings from Kiev and Basurin and nobody pays attention, a pity, because for once their briefings correlated with each other concerning troop build up at Marinka and Petrovsky, in clear violation of Minsk. Yesterday ukrops kicked OSCE out of Shirokino because they have become irrelevant to both sides, or will be soon. Movements of heavy equipment up to the front and also in clear violation of Minsk take place right under noses of OSCE. It is common knowledge in Donetsk, that, oh, my keyboard stopped working properдн, црфе ф ырфьу, блять
So everything is moving as expected. All NAF needs to do now is stay sharp and be ready to counterattack when time comes. This is what they have been waiting for.
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Sitting on ass and hoping that something will turn up is not a plan, it is geopolitical weakness. Deny that this shit in Kiev is allowed to continue because of desire not to frighten Washington and Brussels. Washington does not hold back in what they do because of fear of Russia, they go ahead and invade and kill whoever they like wherever they like and whenever they like. That they get their nose tweaked over Syria is good, but that is Syria, not Donbass. Donbass is passive in what happens next, it all depends on what Kiev do and when, it is not any sort of plan by Donbass. How to stop the offensive and what to do next are a plan, but the start of all this is all to Kiev, and that gives them an advantage as they do not have to think about a sudden attack on them, only making sure their offensive succeeds and a plan to stop counter offensive. This sitting and waiting gives all the initiative to Kiev, and in war that is bad. At the least ukrops should be living with the fear that they may be attacked at any time, not getting drunk as they know they are safe.PapaDragon wrote:
Kiev does have the plans but so does the other side. And just because Kiev and sugardaddy have plans does not mean that they will be able to implement them especially given their recent track record.
I will lay this out cleary. During seige of Leningrad various offensives to break the seige failed, but at least attempts were made and the nazis were never allowed to sleep soundly, as at the front they were constantly attacked, whether by artillery fire or small scale infantry attacks to get prisoners and to make them live in fear. In Donbass practically nothing is done to ukrops. This is total bullshit. Every time ukrops bombard using any weapon of any caliber, they should be met with heavy counter battery fire, every time, not once in a blue moon as happens now. Every night some form of action by spetsnaz should take place and ukrops live in permanent fear that they could get their throat cut or have a grenade or IED blow them up behind the lines. This does not happen and there is no good military reason it does not. That there is constant small scale fighting is not in doubt, but it is all reactionary from VSN, not instigated by them, and that should change.
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Agree totally, especially with the counter battery fire. They have the technology and the weapons, the only real reason I see for not using them would be exposing their positions but with US satellites Kiev knows that anyway. Its crazy.Khepesh wrote:Sitting on ass and hoping that something will turn up is not a plan, it is geopolitical weakness. Deny that this shit in Kiev is allowed to continue because of desire not to frighten Washington and Brussels. Washington does not hold back in what they do because of fear of Russia, they go ahead and invade and kill whoever they like wherever they like and whenever they like. That they get their nose tweaked over Syria is good, but that is Syria, not Donbass. Donbass is passive in what happens next, it all depends on what Kiev do and when, it is not any sort of plan by Donbass. How to stop the offensive and what to do next are a plan, but the start of all this is all to Kiev, and that gives them an advantage as they do not have to think about a sudden attack on them, only making sure their offensive succeeds and a plan to stop counter offensive. This sitting and waiting gives all the initiative to Kiev, and in war that is bad. At the least ukrops should be living with the fear that they may be attacked at any time, not getting drunk as they know they are safe.PapaDragon wrote:
Kiev does have the plans but so does the other side. And just because Kiev and sugardaddy have plans does not mean that they will be able to implement them especially given their recent track record.
I will lay this out cleary. During seige of Leningrad various offensives to break the seige failed, but at least attempts were made and the nazis were never allowed to sleep soundly, as at the front they were constantly attacked, whether by artillery fire or small scale infantry attacks to get prisoners and to make them live in fear. In Donbass practically nothing is done to ukrops. This is total bullshit. Every time ukrops bombard using any weapon of any caliber, they should be met with heavy counter battery fire, every time, not once in a blue moon as happens now. Every night some form of action by spetsnaz should take place and ukrops live in permanent fear that they could get their throat cut or have a grenade or IED blow them up behind the lines. This does not happen and there is no good military reason it does not. That there is constant small scale fighting is not in doubt, but it is all reactionary from VSN, not instigated by them, and that should change.
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IMHO a ww2 partizan-like movement should be organized in Southeastern Ukraine. Ukraine is not Russia and a fairy sizeable insurgent movement coud bleed the Ukro army white.
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Guess what this is. And guess where it comes from...
Guess Who? wrote:In the morning of 17 July 2014, the **** communicated the results of this investigation in its daily
intelligence summary (‘***intsum’), which had a number of users, including the **** and the ****.
The **** assessed it to be unlikely that the Antonov had been shot down by a powerful anti-aircraft
system (separate from the question whether this had been carried out from Russian territory). From
pictures of the wreckage and eyewitness accounts it was clear that the aeroplane’s right-hand engine
had been hit and that 5 to 6 parachutes had subsequently appeared. The Antonov had allegedly
crashed only then. On this basis, the **** concluded that the appearance of the damage was not
consistent with a hit by a powerful anti-aircraft system. The aeroplane would in that case probably
have been destroyed in the air.
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It's sad though. All this spilled blood for a kunt like this.
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It's sad though. All this spilled blood for a kunt like this.
Its not well known fact that i follow him on Twitter for amusement. Even tho my ukrainian is not that great i enjoy his random posts, that got nothing to do with anything whatsoever. Guy once at like 3 am by Kiev time started tweeting about Putin.
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OSCE seems to be losing drones very fast
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The sad part about ukraine is that guy is neither and is trying to pretend to be. Zhidova daily thug life.
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Now hitting the press. Good that they have spare 'stuff' to move that they don't need in Donbas. Unless they think they need to reinforce that border because Russia will strike north from there in the event of a Ukie strike into Donbas
MOSCOW, February 26. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has issued an instruction to the Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Armed Forces to draft proposals on how to reinforce the border line separating Ukraine and the Crimean Federal District of Russia, a presidential statement said on Friday
"The Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been told to submit proposals on a considerable buildup of Ukraine's fedense capabilities in the Kherson region and along the entire Black Sea coast," the presidential press service said in a press release.
This move is supposed to counteract the Russian Army's growing capability in the republic of Crimea, it said.
More: http://tass.ru/en/world/859315
MOSCOW, February 26. /TASS/. Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has issued an instruction to the Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Armed Forces to draft proposals on how to reinforce the border line separating Ukraine and the Crimean Federal District of Russia, a presidential statement said on Friday
"The Defense Ministry and the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been told to submit proposals on a considerable buildup of Ukraine's fedense capabilities in the Kherson region and along the entire Black Sea coast," the presidential press service said in a press release.
This move is supposed to counteract the Russian Army's growing capability in the republic of Crimea, it said.
More: http://tass.ru/en/world/859315
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JohninMK wrote:Now hitting the press. Good that they have spare 'stuff' to move that they don't need in Donbas. Unless they think they need to reinforce that border because Russia will strike north from there in the event of a Ukie strike into Donbas
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I frequently think of this scene when we discuss Kiev's military strategy!!!
At 0:31:
"-Napoleon is in North Africa and Nelson is in...?
-Alaska, Your Highness, in case they try and trick us by comming via North Pole. "
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PapaDragon wrote:JohninMK wrote:Now hitting the press. Good that they have spare 'stuff' to move that they don't need in Donbas. Unless they think they need to reinforce that border because Russia will strike north from there in the event of a Ukie strike into Donbas
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I frequently think of this scene when we discuss Kiev's military strategy!!!
At 0:31:
"-Napoleon is in North Africa and Nelson is in...?
-Alaska, Your Highness, in case they try and trick us by comming via North Pole. "
Blackadder was one of the few worthwhile programmes on the BBC
Kiev's military manual is straight out of the keystone cops manual ... pure chaos
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Walther von Oldenburg wrote:eehnie wrote:Khepesh wrote:I agree that Transcarpathia and Galicia can leave Ukraine as they are not historically anything to do with Russia, and a western border at those two areas is sufficiently far away from present Russian border. I say present because I see a future were all Donbass is fully part of Russia. It is Moscow and Kiev that talk about a united Ukraine, but I think one side says this with smile and crossed fingers behind back....medo wrote:Don't dream about united Ukraine, because it is a past. Ukraine will be divided and this is the best and only solution to get peace there. Keeping Ukraine united together is madness. Western Polish part and eastern Russian part could no more live together, they are too different entities now. Only option is to create southeast independent Novorussia and the rest of Ukraine must be their own state. Let them live like they want
I really do not see a "Western Polish" in Ukraine today. There is not significant Polish population in Ukraine today. If there is a divission of Ukraine it will be between:
- Ethnically Ukranian and Ethnically Russian parts.
- Culturally Ukranian and Culturally Russian parts.
One or other. There are not other groups of population with significant size and weight to lead successfully a divission of Ukraine.
There is no culturally Ukrainian and culturally Russian part of Ukraine. All parts of Ukraine are culturally the same as Russia and people moving from one country to the other don't need cultural acclimatization. The division is only political.
Russian and Ukranian are close enough to be easily understandable for the speakers of the other language. But at same time there is an obvious cultural side of this conflict, that we see in the claims of the pro-Russian side about the treatment of the language in schools, and in other cases. It is not rare I even have cases near my home like the Catalan/Spanish case that are also very close (Basque and Spanish are very different instead).
If there is a separation of both communities in different countries, it will be by the limits between the ethnically Russian and ethnically Ukranian communities, or by the limits between the culturally Russian and culturally Ukranian communities (culturally Russian communities would include ethnically Ukranians that speak Russian and consider themselves Russian). It means the limits between the areas were every community (ethnical or cultural) is majority.
To see other limits for a separation the war would need to be strong enough to move definitely significant populations from their current homes. It only can happen in case of a big war.
I do not think Russia is interested on it. In the long term Russia prefers to be in good terms with Ukraine. Russia can accept and may like that the Russian areas of Ukraine join Russia, but will not try to change by war the balance of areas with Ukranian population majorities.
The current Ukranian government tried it (to expell the pro-Russian population from Ukraine) by war, but failed, except in some parts.
This map seems important to me:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/UkraineNativeLanguagesCensus2001detailed-en.png
Here we see Crimea totally clear and a figure close to the current Novorussia clearly enough. It has been a very predictive map. I would expect still movements of the limits of Novorussia to match better the limits of the Russian community of the South East in the map. But I do not expect movements as big as other people.
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JohninMK wrote:Now hitting the press. Good that they have spare 'stuff' to move that they don't need in Donbas. Unless they think they need to reinforce that border because Russia will strike north from there in the event of a Ukie strike into Donbas
(...)
More: http://tass.ru/en/world/859315
Probably they think that they will attack Donbass
https://www.rt.com/news/333801-ukraine-special-forces-crimea/
Ukraine is training a special unit to help Kiev retake Crimea, the country’s Interior Minister said, as President Poroshenko mulls building up its military along the peninsula’s borders. In Crimea, officials warn the “unlawful” invasion would be repelled.
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They are beating the Russian imminent invasion drum again....
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry estimated the possible consequences of a full-scale war with Russia. According, the director of the Department of Social and Humanitarian Policy of the Ministry of Defense Valentine Fedicheva if Russia will start full-scale war with Ukraine, die about 20 thousand Russian military.
"If the enemy uses the aircraft, if that group that is on our borders is still going on the offensive, calculations showed - is only 20 thousand 200's in the group advancing enemy. That he will come to the Dnieper and in fact destroy their ground troops, "- he said on the air Fedichev Espresso TV.
He is convinced that Ukraine has something to fight.
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry estimated the possible consequences of a full-scale war with Russia. According, the director of the Department of Social and Humanitarian Policy of the Ministry of Defense Valentine Fedicheva if Russia will start full-scale war with Ukraine, die about 20 thousand Russian military.
"If the enemy uses the aircraft, if that group that is on our borders is still going on the offensive, calculations showed - is only 20 thousand 200's in the group advancing enemy. That he will come to the Dnieper and in fact destroy their ground troops, "- he said on the air Fedichev Espresso TV.
He is convinced that Ukraine has something to fight.
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franco wrote:They are beating the Russian imminent invasion drum again....
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry estimated the possible consequences of a full-scale war with Russia. According, the director of the Department of Social and Humanitarian Policy of the Ministry of Defense Valentine Fedicheva if Russia will start full-scale war with Ukraine, die about 20 thousand Russian military.
"If the enemy uses the aircraft, if that group that is on our borders is still going on the offensive, calculations showed - is only 20 thousand 200's in the group advancing enemy. That he will come to the Dnieper and in fact destroy their ground troops, "- he said on the air Fedichev Espresso TV.
He is convinced that Ukraine has something to fight.
And yet, nobody in MSM seems to be paying attention. Ukropistan became old news, sugardaddy is tired and bored and nobody cares about their tantrums anynymore. Looks like they will have to go solo after all.
Sucks to be them.
Also, 20 000? Not enough emojis for that one.
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Good news
Today in Crimea, ahead of schedule, the third line of the power bridge from the power systems and nuclear power plants in Krasnodar Krai to Crimea was completed. According to the schedule the connection should have been completed later on, but the President of Russia issued the instruction "to try to speed up the completion" of the second, and now third energy line ahead of time. This event caused a storm of emotion on social networks.
"The head of the Kerch RES, Aleksandr Zabelin, told Crimeans that from 5am on 28th February to 10 p.m. on 29th February the Peninsula will see electricity shortages due to work on the connection of a third energy line of the bridge from Russia",- reported the mass media.
"At the moment we are conducting test connections and "operational" connections on the third line of the power bridge to Crimea; new capacity comes from the Russian Peninsula uninterrupted, the mains are operating normally," said the Department of Energy to Politonline.ru.
"We expect the fourth section to be connected, the last line, and then Crimea will be fully electrically independent and, moreover, they will be able to offer electricity. Here is a little secret - the connection will occur sooner than planned. After that there will be no more power blackouts in Crimea, finally," added the agency.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/02/third-line-of-energy-bridge-to-crimea.html
Today in Crimea, ahead of schedule, the third line of the power bridge from the power systems and nuclear power plants in Krasnodar Krai to Crimea was completed. According to the schedule the connection should have been completed later on, but the President of Russia issued the instruction "to try to speed up the completion" of the second, and now third energy line ahead of time. This event caused a storm of emotion on social networks.
"The head of the Kerch RES, Aleksandr Zabelin, told Crimeans that from 5am on 28th February to 10 p.m. on 29th February the Peninsula will see electricity shortages due to work on the connection of a third energy line of the bridge from Russia",- reported the mass media.
"At the moment we are conducting test connections and "operational" connections on the third line of the power bridge to Crimea; new capacity comes from the Russian Peninsula uninterrupted, the mains are operating normally," said the Department of Energy to Politonline.ru.
"We expect the fourth section to be connected, the last line, and then Crimea will be fully electrically independent and, moreover, they will be able to offer electricity. Here is a little secret - the connection will occur sooner than planned. After that there will be no more power blackouts in Crimea, finally," added the agency.
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/02/third-line-of-energy-bridge-to-crimea.html
Vann7- Posts : 5385
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The more Kiev feels is losing control of the country.. the more probable they will
order the war to start again . This is done to Deviate Ukrainians citizens attention
from the failure government they have and use the conflict to unite ukrainians behind
Their ARmy and their government. That is to create a diversion so people no longer seek
to overthrow Kiev.
The biggest threat for Russia comes from ISIS fighters , there are reports of them
moved by Turkey to Ukraine front line.. and they can be suicide bombers..BAsically
they kill themselves and their families receive a monetary reward. So for example the offensive
of Ukraine will try to be a very Fast one to cause as much damage as possible ,using terrorist
from middle east in the first wave of attack.
So Russia and Novo fighters will need to be prepare for Syrian war similar tactics to be
used in Ukraine.. Very fast mobile enemy using motorbikes ,with lots of waves of suicide bombers,riding reinforced trucks ,that can survive kornets attacks.more or less.. Also Russia needs to prepare for chemical weapons attacks supplied by Americans
to fight Russia.
Another false flag attack also could be done, and blamed in Russia.. So all said..
Kiev desperately needs to deviate people attention from the government ,and focus it is
"major progress of liberating territory" in the east.In order for kiev to earn sympathy from people and remain in power.
order the war to start again . This is done to Deviate Ukrainians citizens attention
from the failure government they have and use the conflict to unite ukrainians behind
Their ARmy and their government. That is to create a diversion so people no longer seek
to overthrow Kiev.
The biggest threat for Russia comes from ISIS fighters , there are reports of them
moved by Turkey to Ukraine front line.. and they can be suicide bombers..BAsically
they kill themselves and their families receive a monetary reward. So for example the offensive
of Ukraine will try to be a very Fast one to cause as much damage as possible ,using terrorist
from middle east in the first wave of attack.
So Russia and Novo fighters will need to be prepare for Syrian war similar tactics to be
used in Ukraine.. Very fast mobile enemy using motorbikes ,with lots of waves of suicide bombers,riding reinforced trucks ,that can survive kornets attacks.more or less.. Also Russia needs to prepare for chemical weapons attacks supplied by Americans
to fight Russia.
Another false flag attack also could be done, and blamed in Russia.. So all said..
Kiev desperately needs to deviate people attention from the government ,and focus it is
"major progress of liberating territory" in the east.In order for kiev to earn sympathy from people and remain in power.
Khepesh- Posts : 1666
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Front line hospital in ukrops occupied Severodonetsk told to prepare for mass casualties according to a doctor from the hospital. http://dnr24.com/main/19630-bolnicy-severodonecka-veroyatno-gotovyatsya-k-massovomu-priemu-ranenyh-boycov-vsu-istochnik.html
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