The Situation in the Ukraine. #16

sepheronx wrote:

whir wrote:

kvs wrote:What sort of trade is Russia going to keep with Ukraine?

Everything that can be traded.

kvs wrote:Ukraine is busy cutting off both Russia and its nose.

And failing at both.

kvs wrote:Russia is not desperate for Ukrainian goods and would only trade if it achieved something.

Russia does not need to be desperate to keep trading with Ukraine simply because Moscow can't disengage from Ukraine without damaging it's own economy and society in the process.

kvs wrote:These idiots need to go and eat shit.

That Vesti flashmob was retarded the first time now is even more retarded.

Your wrong then. Because there is almost nothing left now since Ukraine cut military trade with Russia and that is really the only thing they obtained economically. As well, it was Ukraine who pushed Moscow back and got growing popularity with their own population, not the other way around. No, they dont need Ukraine either economically or socially, and it is ever more evident now than before. You should have noticed this. I am starting to believe the others that your not what you portray yourself to be.

Economically and especially socially, Russia doesnt need Ukraine.

kvs wrote:

whir wrote:

Vann7 wrote:However kiev have one major obstacle and is called Europe... that could abandon their support and isolate economically Ukraine from the planet... then they will have Zero trade with Europe and Zero trade with Russia..good luck with that...

Not gonna happen, period. EuroMaidan rings a bell to you? And if you think that Russia is going to stop trade with Ukraine you're very naive.

What sort of trade is Russia going to keep with Ukraine?  

Ukraine is busy cutting off both Russia and its nose.   Russia is not desperate for Ukrainian goods and would only trade if it
achieved something.    




These idiots need to go and eat shit.

Karl Haushofer wrote:

kvs wrote:

whir wrote:

Vann7 wrote:However kiev have one major obstacle and is called Europe... that could abandon their support and isolate economically Ukraine from the planet... then they will have Zero trade with Europe and Zero trade with Russia..good luck with that...

Not gonna happen, period. EuroMaidan rings a bell to you? And if you think that Russia is going to stop trade with Ukraine you're very naive.

These idiots need to go and eat shit.

Who are these freaks in the picture?

sepheronx wrote:

whir wrote:

kvs wrote:What sort of trade is Russia going to keep with Ukraine?

Everything that can be traded.

kvs wrote:Ukraine is busy cutting off both Russia and its nose.

And failing at both.

kvs wrote:Russia is not desperate for Ukrainian goods and would only trade if it achieved something.

Russia does not need to be desperate to keep trading with Ukraine simply because Moscow can't disengage from Ukraine without damaging it's own economy and society in the process.

kvs wrote:These idiots need to go and eat shit.

That Vesti flashmob was retarded the first time now is even more retarded.

Your wrong then. Because there is almost nothing left now since Ukraine cut military trade with Russia and that is really the only thing they obtained economically. As well, it was Ukraine who pushed Moscow back and got growing popularity with their own population, not the other way around. No, they dont need Ukraine either economically or socially, and it is ever more evident now than before. You should have noticed this. I am starting to believe the others that your not what you portray yourself to be.

Economically and especially socially, Russia doesnt need Ukraine.

Ghoster wrote:

sepheronx wrote:

whir wrote:

kvs wrote:What sort of trade is Russia going to keep with Ukraine?

Everything that can be traded.

kvs wrote:Ukraine is busy cutting off both Russia and its nose.

And failing at both.

kvs wrote:Russia is not desperate for Ukrainian goods and would only trade if it achieved something.

Russia does not need to be desperate to keep trading with Ukraine simply because Moscow can't disengage from Ukraine without damaging it's own economy and society in the process.

kvs wrote:These idiots need to go and eat shit.

That Vesti flashmob was retarded the first time now is even more retarded.

Your wrong then. Because there is almost nothing left now since Ukraine cut military trade with Russia and that is really the only thing they obtained economically. As well, it was Ukraine who pushed Moscow back and got growing popularity with their own population, not the other way around. No, they dont need Ukraine either economically or socially, and it is ever more evident now than before. You should have noticed this. I am starting to believe the others that your not what you portray yourself to be.

Economically and especially socially, Russia doesnt need Ukraine.

Lets face facts. Russia does need Ukraine, at least now. Look up how much of its natural gas Russia exports to Europe through it. Then look up the gas disputes that happened in the past between Ukraine and Russia before Maidan and the losses that both sides incurred.

Russia will need Ukraine for as long as it can't find ways to circumvent it as a transit country. It's probably why Gazprom announced plans to build an extension to Nord Stream last week.

BKP wrote:Regarding the pics from that protest, or demonstration or whatever it is, what are they trying to say exactly? That "moskals" are zombies? But if that's so, then some aspects of their costumes confuse me.  Like, why does that one guy have what loks like a Ukrainian flag around his neck? And some of it looks like an imitation of Ukrainian folk clothing rather than Russian.  

Can anyone translate the sign they're carrying?

PapaDragon wrote:Went over to take a glance at TheMess out of dumb curiosity.... oh, the horror...

I am sooooo glad I'm here.

Don't ever leave me guys...


I did pick up this nice quote though:

Kravchuk in 1991 - in 5 years we'll have French standards of living.
Yushchenko in 2004 - in 10 years we'll have Polish standards of living.
Saakashvili in 2015 - in 20 years we'll have Yanukovych standards of living.  

Khepesh wrote:^^ yeah, a nightmare. I made first post there for weeks just to sort of remind them that there is actually news to be reported and discussed, but they are indifferent, and likely have no sources about actual fighting and certainly not about the actual people who suffer, so ignore it to talk about garbage. I think if DTA left, then it will be 100% a boring Polandball/economics thread

kvs wrote:

What sort of trade is Russia going to keep with Ukraine?  

Ukraine is busy cutting off both Russia and its nose.   Russia is not desperate for Ukrainian goods and would only trade if it
achieved something.    




These idiots need to go and eat shit.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:Went over to take a glance at TheMess out of dumb curiosity.... oh, the horror...

I am sooooo glad I'm here.

Don't ever leave me guys...


I did pick up this nice quote though:

Kravchuk in 1991 - in 5 years we'll have French standards of living.
Yushchenko in 2004 - in 10 years we'll have Polish standards of living.
Saakashvili in 2015 - in 20 years we'll have Yanukovych standards of living.  

Ugh, I can't stand to go over there and read. The atmosphere is even worse than it was at mpnet.
and some posters are like listening to a broken record player playing the same record over and over and over and over.

If I go over there to see what's been posted I just want to smash something.

sepheronx wrote:Your wrong then.

sepheronx wrote:Because there is almost nothing left now since Ukraine cut military trade with Russia and that is really the only thing they obtained economically.

sepheronx wrote:As well, it was Ukraine who pushed Moscow back and got growing popularity with their own population, not the other way around. No, they dont need Ukraine either economically or socially, and it is ever more evident now than before. You should have noticed this.

sepheronx wrote:I am starting to believe the others that your not what you portray yourself to be.

sepheronx wrote:Economically and especially socially, Russia doesn't need Ukraine.

JohninMK wrote:Interview, in Russian I assume, at Kharkov tank restoring factory. Think it is about T-64 or T-80. Pictures of lots of old and tatty tanks.

Cowboy's daughter wrote:anyway to tell who or where??

PapaDragon wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:

Khepesh wrote:^^ yeah, a nightmare. I made first post there for weeks just to sort of remind them that there is actually news to be reported and discussed, but they are indifferent, and likely have no sources about actual fighting and certainly not about the actual people who suffer, so ignore it to talk about garbage. I think if DTA left, then it will be 100% a boring Polandball/economics thread

I liked DTA. I wish he would come over here.

Yup, DTA is good dude, someone should invite him over, him being there is a waste of talent...

kvs wrote:

Cowboy's daughter wrote:anyway to tell who or where??

It's video made my some Ukr degenerates how they are "pounding the separatists".  

I couldn't stand listening to the snarling sarcastic Ukrainian so I did not watch all of it.
For all I know it is some rebel held village or town they are "pounding".   Legends in their
own minds.