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Khepesh wrote:A brief mention about the language dispute. For a thread I made on another forum, not mp, I made a detailed analysis of the population of Odessa from foundation to present day. Looking at all available data from simple population numbers from 1794 and then from the first proper census in 1897, it could be seen that single largest ethnic group was Russian at 49,09%. The word Ukranian never even appeared on the census, instead the old term "Malorosi" - "Littlerussians" was used, and they were only 9,39%. Leaping forward to the figures for deaths in early 1930s it can be seen that, and this time "Ukranian" is used, that they were only about 7% of the population, and there is no reason to suggest they were less likely to die than anybody else and give this low number. Then suddenly in modern times this very low number of "Ukranians" becomes a majority of the population. This is unfeasable, and without replicating work from elsewhere, was found to be false and that most of these new "Ukranians" were actually ethnic Russians. This type of trick seems common and is also used to falsify language data. On the 2001 census surzhyk is not even mentioned and it is assumed everybody who speaks an Eastern Slavonic language speaks either Russian, Ukranian or Belarussian. It is clear, at least to me, that Kiev authorities have counted surzhyk not as a dialect of Russian, but as "pure" Ukranian and so produce data that show the majority of all Ukraine as being native Ukranian speakers. This is a manipulative lie.
To add, in 1897 census Hebrew was the second language of Odessa at 30,83%. We know they suffered a nightmare and many died in holocaust, and then from 1991 many of the survivors emigrated. There is no data to show them being replaced by Ukranian speakers from the western regions as the population figures show drops, at times severe, in Odessa population and only a slow recovery and since the bulk of the Jews left in 1991 the population has almost flatlined, again showing no large influx of Ukranian speakers. There is the saying "There lies, damned lies, and statistics", but in this case the statistics, the real ones, show the truth, and that statistics from Kiev at least since 1991 are lies.
Great post! Thanks, Khepesh!
I haven't even brought canada, my video in particular is about the vanguard of the so called russian world. And what do you know, maybe the video is not even real, but was just edited for entertainment value.
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