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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #11

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    Post  F-15E Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:41 pm

    "Ukainian fighter" HAHAHAHAHA!! russia russia
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:55 pm

    F-15E wrote:Murmansk contract soldiers complain of being forced to fight in Ukraine

    http://en.censor.net.ua/news/324638/murmansk_contract_soldiers_complain_of_being_forced_to_fight_in_ukraine

    russia russia
    This is more of a story about a hot headed commander and a bunch of so called "soldiers", rather then evidence of Russian troops in Ukraine.

    This is to say nothing of the credibility of the source.
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    Post  AlfaT8 Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:09 am

    F-15E wrote:"Ukainian fighter" HAHAHAHAHA!! russia russia
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    Might be Photoshopped, can some body tell me what's on that arm band on his left arm?

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:15 am

    F-15E wrote:"Ukainian fighter" HAHAHAHAHA!! russia russia
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    Ha ha, you totally ignored the Ukrainian military posing with pictures of Hitler, and Nazi regalia and yet think the seps are extremists? Please stop trying to measure your micro-penis in front of us. Embarassed
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    Post  sepheronx Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:55 am

    F-15E wrote:"Ukainian fighter" HAHAHAHAHA!! russia russia
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    I guess Tatars of Ukraine are not Ukrainian either?

    If you ever been to Ukraine or know a thing about it, there are a lot of asian looking folks living their, dates back to the time of the mongols actually.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:45 am

    F-15E wrote:"Ukainian fighter" HAHAHAHAHA!! russia russia
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    Apparently the American education system did not cover the many ethnicities of the USSR.

    None of those ethnicities were treated like black people were either btw Wink .
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    Post  franco Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:55 am

    VladimirSahin wrote:
    F-15E wrote:Murmansk contract soldiers complain of being forced to fight in Ukraine

    http://en.censor.net.ua/news/324638/murmansk_contract_soldiers_complain_of_being_forced_to_fight_in_ukraine

    russia russia

    So you're telling me Russia is stupid enough to send soldiers who did not volunteer to Ukraine? LOL and nice website would have some credibility if it did not have these three things at the end (.ua)

    Bazinga!!
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    Post  Hisroyalhighness Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:09 am

    Ignore the troll or report him.

    The fact that he posted from Censor.net (the same site that reported that Russia dropped a nuke on Donetsk Airport), shows an intelligence deficit.


    Not surprising, when Ukraine agreed to cease fire back in September, they fired a ballistic missile at Donetsk a couple of hours later.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:06 am

    What a ridiculous f*cking joke, Kiev forces immediately break the ceasefire within hours of it being enacted, and Yarosh admits that his forces continue to advance in Debaltseve.

    Yarosh: "Right sector" continues to advance under Debaltseve

    ...Let this be the last stupid 'ceasefire' that Russia decides to be apart of... Rolling Eyes
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    Post  par far Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:30 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:What a ridiculous f*cking joke, Kiev forces immediately break the ceasefire within hours of it being enacted, and Yarosh admits that his forces continue to advance in Debaltseve.

    Yarosh: "Right sector" continues to advance under Debaltseve

    ...Let this be the last stupid 'ceasefire' that Russia decides to be apart of... Rolling Eyes



    Well that's it for the ceasefire.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:58 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:What a ridiculous f*cking joke, Kiev forces immediately break the ceasefire within hours of it being enacted, and Yarosh admits that his forces continue to advance in Debaltseve.

    Yarosh: "Right sector" continues to advance under Debaltseve

    ...Let this be the last stupid 'ceasefire' that Russia decides to be apart of... Rolling Eyes

    A claim by Nazis, especially when repeated by RIAN, can't really form the basis for anything.
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:06 am

    Anyone with any detailed news?
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:47 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:What a ridiculous f*cking joke, Kiev forces immediately break the ceasefire within hours of it being enacted, and Yarosh admits that his forces continue to advance in Debaltseve.

    Yarosh: "Right sector" continues to advance under Debaltseve

    ...Let this be the last stupid 'ceasefire' that Russia decides to be apart of... Rolling Eyes

    A claim by Nazis, especially when repeated by RIAN, can't really form the basis for anything.

    That story apparently was first published on the [Nazi] National Guard website, and apparently the Nazis quickly deleted that story from the website subsequent to its publication.

    One quick note, the Russians don't do anything without "planning" it first.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:51 am

    So you're telling me Russia is stupid enough to send soldiers who did not volunteer to Ukraine?

    Russia doesn't need to send anyone to defeat the Kiev government forces, the Ukrainian rebels could defeat them on their own if they had the right equipment.

    If the US sends weapons Russia should send weapons too.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:55 am

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Anyone with any detailed news?

    Yes, there are some.

    At the Mariupol sector, Novo troops have taken the village Shyrokyne. However there are still fighting.

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    On a little north, Novo is attacking the settlement of Kominternnove.

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    Ukie troops is attacking toward the mine region at the southern flank of the Donetsk bulge.

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    Novo troops is attacking at somewhere on a bit north.

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    At the Debaltsevo pocket, Novo troops is attacking on two directions in order to cut the pocket in halves.

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    Ukie troops from Luhanske is still trying to break the encirclement.

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    After all, Minsk 2.0 has nothing to do with Novo. Because Novo doesn't sign it. Novo has no obligation to obey it.
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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:40 am



    Hisroyalhighness wrote:Off Topic
    More like they are trying to keep the forum as civilized as possible due to this massive crisis. I don't blame them for banning me for a couple months, I was briefly a mod for a Enemy Territory clan forum and while fun, it was annoying trying to keep the idiots from tearing the forums apart; must be way harder for a military forum that focuses on current events.

    They may be well-intended, but they have became too ban-happy at this point, at least in the Ukraine-thread.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sun Feb 15, 2015 3:01 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:
    Hisroyalhighness wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:Georgia’s Ex-President Named Head of Ukrainian Presidential Advisors
    lol!


    The irony is that NATO wants Georgia to join, but Sockpuppetshivili is a wanted criminal on the run and would face trial in his native Georgia, thus alienating and straining a Russophobic alliance between Ukraine and Georgia.

    This is highly reminiscent of how the U.S. Navy is goading Shinzo Abe of Japan to be more hawkish and militant against China; but at the same time his historical revisionist and grossly (disgusting even) distorted and inaccurate views about Japan's involvement in WW2 has now thoroughly alienated and strained the relationship between Japan and South Korea, which is a key U.S. ally in the Pacific.

    As I predicted, placing Sockpuppetshivili on a pedestal in Ukraine's advisory board has seriously rattled some nerves in Tbilisi, Georgia:

    Media: Ukrainian Ambassador summoned to the Georgian Foreign Ministry in connection with the appointment of an adviser Saakashvili in Kiev
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    Post  franco Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:56 pm

    ORBAT of Ukrainian Forces in Donbas first of February (mostly on data from Strelkov and Cassad).

    Luhansk zone

    - 7 UA battle groups
    - 1 UA tank battalion groups
    - 5 UA mech inf battalions
    - 1 UA heavy arty battalion
    - 1 SF battalion
    - 10 National Guard battalions

    Gorlovka / Debatsevo zone

    - 3 UA battle groups
    - 1 UA tank battalion group
    - 5 UA mech inf battalions
    - 1 UA heavy arty battalion
    - 3 National Guard battalions

    Donetsk zone

    - 10 UA battle groups
    - 2 UA tank battalion groups
    - 3 UA mech inf battalions
    - 4 UA heavy arty battalions
    - 1 SF battalion
    - 6 National Guard battalions

    Mariupol zone

    - 2 UA battle group
    - 1 UA tank battalion group
    - 3 UA mech inf battalions
    - 1 naval inf company
    - 1 SF battalion
    - 7 National Guard battalions

    Reserves

    - 2 UA battle groups
    - 1 National Guard battalion
    - 2-3 SSM battalions

    NOTES:

    1 - from different media reports estimate that 5-6 battalions transferred into the Gorlovka / Debatsevo zone from the surrounding zones and reserve in an attempt to break through.
    2 - at least 2 units transferred in from outside the ATO
    3 - battle group is a mech inf / airborne battalion supported with tank, engineer, artillery, air defense, anti-tank and reconnaissance support (~800-1,000)
    4 - most of the National Guard battalions would be strictly light or mech infantry. It is possible that 4-6 have been upgraded to battle groups. (~400-600)
    5 - Tank battalion group could also have mech inf, artillery and other support similar to a battle group. (~300-500)


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    Post  Hisroyalhighness Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:59 pm

    #Ukraine ceasefire holding in most places w/ exception of a few. Notably #Debaltseve.
    via @rConflictNews @MarQs__ @GrahamWP_UK @olliecarroll


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    Post  Werewolf Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:13 pm

    Hisroyalhighness wrote:#Ukraine ceasefire holding in most places w/ exception of a few. Notably #Debaltseve.
    via @rConflictNews @MarQs__ @GrahamWP_UK @olliecarroll
    https://twitter.com/ArmedResearch/status/566967250952151040

    Forum rules and i would say your quote breaks this rule.
    5] Do not advertise other forums (that includes linking to them)
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:28 pm

    Shocked ???
    It's a tweet with comments. It's not a discussion forum.

    ...linking to mp.net is forbidden? Shocked
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    Post  VladimirSahin Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:33 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    So you're telling me Russia is stupid enough to send soldiers who did not volunteer to Ukraine?

    Russia doesn't need to send anyone to defeat the Kiev government forces, the Ukrainian rebels could defeat them on their own if they had the right equipment.

    If the US sends weapons Russia should send weapons too.

    I say we send in tank companies with support of a mechanized companies and steam roll the front all the to Kiev and then America will see if Russian tanks were really there or not Smile
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:37 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Anyone with any detailed news?

    Yes, there are some.


    Thanks.
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    Post  Hisroyalhighness Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:05 pm

    Lothar von Trotha wrote:Shocked ???
    It's a tweet with comments. It's not a discussion forum.
    Yeah, don't understand how linking someone's tweet==advertising a discussion forum.

    Putin, Merkel, Hollande, Poroshenko discuss situation around Debaltsevo

    MOSCOW, February 15. /TASS/. Presidents of Russia, France and Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, Francois Hollande and Petro Poroshenko, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel had a telephone conversation on Sunday to discuss the implementation of the complex of measures on peace settlement in southeastern Ukraine signed by the Contact Group earlier in the week, the Kremlin press service said.
    http://tass.ru/en/world/777756



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    Post  mack8 Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:01 pm

    More like they are trying to keep the forum as civilized as possible due to this massive crisis. I don't blame them for banning me for a couple months, I was briefly a mod for a Enemy Territory clan forum and while fun, it was annoying trying to keep the idiots from tearing the forums apart; must be way harder for a military forum that focuses on current events.

    That place is nothing but a pro-US wank, pro-war, pro-rich, russophobe, sinophobe, xenophobe (and any other phobias in between) s**hole dominated by all kinds of rednecks and inbreds, quite likely run by or "guided" and "sponsored" by US agencies, and i'm not that much of a conspiration nutter to say that, have dealt with them long ago. Only good thing MP.net could do is just get hacked and deleted of the web.

    I know your name though not sure now if in a "good" or "not so good" way (well, you've been banned from there so probably should be "good way") Cool

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