The Situation in the Ukraine. #10

Interesting report.. shows that the hell is freezing and the Ukrainians Oligarchs are now feeling
the pain in their business ,and do not see results in their war and are asking for a referedum on people
to see weather or not they want to negotiate for peace or continue the war until no ukraine is left.  

Oligarchs Propose a Referendum

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none_3.html


and this other report shows Germany government not interested in Ukraine joining the EU or
the war to continue.. and they believe Federalization is the solution.. exactly what eastern Ukraine asked
from day one.. also that polls on germany shows 60% of the citizens do not want confrontation with Russia
,neither sanctions and that the conflict needs to end and economic relations with Russia to continue.  very practical view of the  Germans. they want business with Russia to continue and Ukraine to stop fighting.


“Germany is not interested in Ukraine”
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/germany-is-not-interested-in-ukraine.html



best for the last.. the Ukrainians army recruiters.. kicked from a town.. people refused to participate
in the war.. and people cheering..   Trust me.. Big events like this ,people united to stop the war ,if spread
enough in the news in all ukraine will create a chain reaction and most cities will do the same and reject the war.  

Ukrainian volunteer forced to walk out from a mobilization meeting in Zaporozhye region to locals cheering (video)



The signs of the war ending are already showing.
If any Bandera wants the war to continue.. they should be given a rifle and sent to the front line.. that will make
them change their their preferences.. is easy for the jobless losers "glory to ukraine heroes" to do torches marches in all kiev ,praising ukraine from the safety of their places ,while regulars Ukrainians are fighting in the front line.. Even
the leader of Right Sector always show with a different convenient wound every time to have the excuse to not
participate in the conflict.

http://t.co/PBd6Tf8C8n

BTW, dunno if it's been posted yet - but Isa Munayev, head of the anti-Moscow Chechen volunteer formation "Dzhokhar Dudayev International Peacekeeping Battallion" (lol), has been sent to the next world as of yesterday.

Ramzy Kadyrov has been quick to jump onto it, claims his own guys, or rather the Ukrainian SBU offed him themselves.

Not so unbelievable really. Even Semenchenko openly admited that the man was killed pretty much after his last conversation with him; where Munayev told him where he was going.

Although then again; that might just be because Semenchenko and everyone associated with him has been having a string of rather bad luck in this conflict recently.
Not satisfied with his self-inflicted misery in Illovaisk - his latest escepade was of, in defiance of Ukrainian military directives and without any co-ordination with them, leading his band of eager but completely untrained and fresh volunteers into what he quickly identified as a rebel ambush in wait but what was in fact a regular Ukrainian army formation. After making the silly mistake of firing upon them, a good fraction of his men were quickly annilihated in the ensuing friendly fire exchange; whereupon Semenchenko himself and his bodyguards attempted to make a getaway in his vehicle.. only to crash into a Ukrainian APC a little while later; resulting in the deaths of more of his men.

Semenchenko himself though got away with only some fractures or whatever. Long may he live and continue leading his men into endless more blunders and hopeless situations.

Mike E wrote:

TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQQ4FDUvBc

Oh my, more damaged Bulats.

They haven't been doing well have they? TBH I used to think that Ukrainian tanks were equivalent or even superior to Russian ones.

I think it depends. T-84 is comparable to the T-90 series. Meanwhile T-64 Bulat or T-64 E is just modernization to the protection standard of T-80.

About WW... we have to understand two things: 1) it is the war between old empires who want to keep their hegemony and the new empires who want to to break the old system to thrive on and 2) Hitler is not the true representation of German people.

The WW2 ended with the victory of Germany people, because two of the worst enemies of Germany were destroyed. The 1st one is Hitler regime. The 2nd one is the old colonial system of the old empire.

And now Germany, the center of European technology, the stronghold of science, is the leader of EU.

Disgusting, Ukrainian Donbass battalion have been moving units under the guise of 'Red Cross' trucks:



...Where's the human right's charlatans and fetishists to decry this?

LOL, yet another 'Moscow Time's' psuedo-journalist, sensationalist, Rupert Murdoch inspired Russophobic tabloid has been formed...

It goes by the name of 'Meduza', and it's funded by a 'secret consortium of investors'...*cough, George Soros, cough*



...Get this, it's based in Riga, Lativa...they're not even trying to disguise that it's Russophobic...

Ukie university students made a clip to criticize Russian "invasion"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FdrrVvADJk

Russian students response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ6YOlfWv_U

higurashihougi wrote:Ukie university students made a clip to criticize Russian "invasion"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FdrrVvADJk

Russian students response:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ6YOlfWv_U

Wonderful!

Those Ukrainians (if they can even be called that) make me want to puke. Screw them. Hope their universities get bombed too. Actually, all they have to do is go outside and see people protesting in Kiev.

Freedom ,we want to be free and freedom.. we want to be like europe and more freedom and while you are there..
more freedom.. thats all the argument of her.. purely brainwashed by American propaganda. 



According to her ,Yakunovych (who was elected democratically in elections ) ,was a dictator..
and people was beaten in kiev ,for asking for freedom.   but of course she forgot the buildings being burned and the police sent to hospital with burns or killed by their lovely peaceful activist. Russians live with more freedoms than anyone in America..Russia IS not a police state and you are not shot ,for being homeless , or for being a minority or poor... RT made a report that discovered the video she made ,was paid by US congress funded NGO and she is a US citizens apparently who lived in Ukraine but not anymore. She did a conference and do not mention of the thousands of civilians killed by their army shelling ,including women and children. Is sad to see the white house to hide behing pretty girls ,to sell the criminal Ukraine War to the american public against Ethnic Russians  .

OF course.. a simple picture posted like this..



will have neutralized all their Freedom propaganda.

or this..

flamming_python wrote:If we're going to blame the generalization and nationality-slandering game, then it still seems a little silly to blame the Jews for America's foreign policy, because despite their high representation in the American political and military elite - they are still a fairly small minority of the total. White Protestants hold by far the highest representation in American power circles, clean majority in fact and have done since America's inception.

Good point, but you are forgetting about the rise of the Christian Right in us politics and the influence of the Christian Zionists, ie those that believe that the Messiah can only return once the temple in Jerusalem is rebuilt. This requires them to support Israel unconditionally to dominate the Arabs so that the mosque can be demolished and the temple rebuilt.

These religious wackos are racist, intolerant, closed minded and hawkish in the extreme,  and they form the foot troops of Zionist\Jewish control of US (and European) political system.

F-15E wrote:

WTF... these 'soldiers' are just kids... Looks like the recruitment drive is a flop and the Ukie fascists are so desperate that they must resort to the use of child soldiers. How utterly despicable.

Damaged T72b.

Generally trying to get a rise out of people doesn't work when your photos do not show up.

Vann7 wrote:Freedom ,we want to be free and freedom.. we want to be like europe and more freedom and while you are there..
more freedom.. thats all the argument of her.. purely brainwashed by American propaganda. 



According to her ,Yakunovych (who was elected democratically in elections ) ,was a dictator..
and people was beaten in kiev ,for asking for freedom.   but of course she forgot the buildings being burned and the police sent to hospital with burns or killed by their lovely peaceful activist. Russians live with more freedoms than anyone in America..Russia IS not a police state and you are not shot ,for being homeless , or for being a minority or poor... RT made a report that discovered the video she made ,was paid by US congress funded NGO and she is a US citizens apparently who lived in Ukraine but not anymore. She did a conference and do not mention of the thousands of civilians killed by their army shelling ,including women and children. Is sad to see the white house to hide behing pretty girls ,to sell the criminal Ukraine War to the american public against Ethnic Russians  .

OF course.. a simple picture posted like this..



will have neutralized all their Freedom propaganda.

or this..

The funny thing is, this stuff is for external consumption, nothing for domestic.  If she is truly Ukrainian (Which she isn't, or at least doesn't live there), then she should go and fight in the war against the rebels.  I bet her mindset will change afterwards.

Or maybe she will be able to drum up conscripts because it appears that the rats in the government are running out of bodies to throw into the conflict, many are fleeing the country.

Politicians who talk about war, should be seized by military high officers, dressed, armed and then just thrown out an airplane in the warzone and see how much war they actually like.

F-15E wrote:Damaged T72b.

Damaged M1A2 in IRAQ..  



You have to love the Trolls.. Why US does not give Ukraine their lovely M1A2 or any better one to kiev..
so that they can fight back and counter Russian military hardware..? US provide help to IRAQ which is not a
NATO member.. but look to the sides when it comes to helping ukraine. perhaps they will not like that idiots
like you discover how lame american hardware perform when there is no censoring of the media.. and they
do not control the images that media can publish. Mark by words you will never see any NATO modern tank
in eastern ukraine..neither any modern plane.. the propaganda and the myth of NATO military superiority
have to be protected at all cost.

Vann7 wrote:

F-15E wrote:Damaged T72b.

Damaged M1A2 in IRAQ..  

Lol,Why does it hurt you to see a Damaged T72B ?

F-15E wrote:

Lol,Why does it hurt you to see a Damaged T72B ?

No it doesn't hurt me at all..  I understand no tank is undestructible.
It just really funny and pathetic how western Trolls.. claim american superiority
hardware.. by just showing how they perform against third world nations against very obsolete
hardware..  Had Russia do the same that Obama does.. and supply many hundreds if not thousands of Kornets to the IRAQ army.. and igla missiles.. the story will have been very different. And more similar to the defeat of the Israeli army in Lebanon .

No offense but American propaganda of exceptionalism is beyond ridiculous...  and i see it almost every day
of the invulnerability of their military hardware. From No Abrahams tanks destroyed in Iraq to enemy fire
to no apaches destroyed . And whenever you show them any photo.. it was an accident or friendly fire.

This is why i will be more than excited to see NATO latest tanks and combat jets in eastern ukraine..
so that we can see how they fail..to simple artillery ,rocket grenades  any F-22 or F-35 flying low will be easily shot down..even by a cheap heat seeker ,guide by lazer manpad. and artillery.. highly underestimated wapon.. a direct hit of heavy artillery on any modern tank ,with be lethal ,and will automatically destroy killing/wounding its people inside.. that will help end the  myth .. but unfortunately that will never happen..  

Werewolf wrote:Politicians who talk about war, should be seized by military high officers, dressed, armed and then just thrown out an airplane in the warzone and see how much war they actually like.

i fully agree, i watched an documentary on RT recently. with U.S colonel wilkerson, in the end of the interview he calls warmongering politicians like Clinton or MCcain "chickenhawks". for their easy talk of hard millitary actions while never having served an day of their life and know what its like. "because they dont have the courage to do it themselves".

or Jesse Ventura for that matter. former navy seal and U.S governor, calling MCcain an traitor to the millitary and the u.s troops when he got captured and was telling everything he knew to save his own ass, ratting out his fellow troops who where still in enemy territory trying to get back to friendly lines.

Updates..

F-15E wrote:

Lol,Why does it hurt you to see a Damaged T72B ?

spoken like a true immature child F-15E. its not about the t-72's if you did not got the hint already. neither is it about the destroyed M1's. its about you poking fun out of casualties of war trying to rile-up other forum users here, while you dont have the balls to go down there and do the dirty work yourself.

What do you expect the loudest shits on internet are the smallest cunts in real life, he never served and never will serve just some redneck that is indoctrinated with this russophobia and this fascistic "Americans are exceptional" in ignorance and arrogance they are for sure.