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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:06 pm



    Serbia honor Russian fallen soldiers.. what a great nation.. and womens are hot too. Very Happy



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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:11 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    .. and womens are hot too.   Very Happy
    lol!  Those Slavs....

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Vann7 on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:24 pm



    Yep definitively Serbia is a brotherly nation to Russia. in more ukraine news.. new video of Donetsk Airport..
    Apparently Novorossiya fighters are very close sweeping the area.




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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Mike E on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:47 pm

    Holy crap! The airport is trashed for good....

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  cyxthtycyxthcyx on Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:56 pm

    Petro007 wrote:LOL you petty rodent how did you ever reach the conclusions that catholicism would destroy Russia??? There are lots of catholic country in Europe France, Italy, Spain, Poland etc. Were they finished or degraded???

    From my non-christian point of view i prefer Catholicism...  [snip]




    this:  Northern Crusades


    It is not enough for the Catholic church to be heard.
    You must convert or die.



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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  NationalRus on Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:03 pm

    Mike E wrote:Holy crap! The airport is trashed for good....

    seen lughansk airport?, nothing worth fighting for and to send veleuble soldiers to die for, its well entrenched, need to be pounded with artillery till all strongholds and heavy armour is destroyed befor you can move in, and not that unrecognised state will need a airport in the near future, also a fact

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:16 pm



    You can make this shit up! This is international terrorism in grandiose scale!

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  AlfaT8 on Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:55 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:

    You can make this shit up! This is international terrorism in grandiose scale!
    WTF, Russia needs to just take Kiev and put a F'ing bullet in this Piece of shits head, though i will give porky this his comparison to Israel is extremely accurate. Suspect

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Mike E on Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:13 am

    NationalRus wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Holy crap! The airport is trashed for good....

    seen lughansk airport?, nothing worth fighting for and to send veleuble soldiers to die for, its well entrenched, need to be pounded with artillery till all strongholds and heavy armour is destroyed befor you can move in, and not that  unrecognised state will need a airport in the near future, also a fact
    Luhansk's airport is worse, but Donetsk's was actually a nice airport, or so it seemed.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  NationalRus on Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:05 am

    Mike E wrote:
    NationalRus wrote:
    Mike E wrote:Holy crap! The airport is trashed for good....

    seen lughansk airport?, nothing worth fighting for and to send veleuble soldiers to die for, its well entrenched, need to be pounded with artillery till all strongholds and heavy armour is destroyed befor you can move in, and not that  unrecognised state will need a airport in the near future, also a fact
    Luhansk's airport is worse, but Donetsk's was actually a nice airport, or so it seemed.

    doesnt mather, not worht lossing lifes for a fortress with underground bunkers which you wont need much anyway, no other way around here then to bomb them in to oblivion fisrt, when most of ther armour and fortefications are destroyed they will be easy pray, then the underground airport bunkers wont help them anymore

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Mike E on Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:03 am

    To me it sucks cause I'm part Av-geek...

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:31 am

    Petro007 wrote:LOL you petty rodent how did you ever reach the conclusions that catholicism would destroy Russia??? There are lots of catholic country in Europe France, Italy, Spain, Poland etc. Were they finished or degraded???

    From my non-christian point of view i prefer catholicism cuz its more cold and rationalistic and orthodoxy is more messed up and it carries the baggage of the byzantine imperial ideology which made Bizantium and Russia by extension so fucked up and stagnant  if you look at european history you will see that all great advances in europe were made by western christians
    - the renaissance - catholic Italy
    - the dutch golden age - mixed catholic-protestant Netherlands
    - the enlightenment - catholic France and anglican England
    - the industrial revolution - anglican England, protestant United States

    U see Russia had none of them and orthodoxy together with Mongol conquest has been responsible for russian backwardness through most of its modern history and even when Peter the "great" took power and started reforming Russia he only taught his people how to shave beard, dress western style and fight western style but not how to organize country western style... The ideas that feudalism must be abolished and powers must be separated and that tsar cant have absolute power but must be subordinate to the law were unthinkable for him. These western things only started to be implemented in lat 19th and early 20th century and only then russia really started developing.

    Dude tell me whats the point of clinging desperately to an old and fossilized ideology??? Its just a beliefs and beliefs can be changed.


    The golden ages and enlightenment has nothing to do with whether Protestant, Catholics, or Orthodox. The important things is that whether the people want to get rid of the old dogmas and go on with the new, progessive intepretation of the religions or not.

    Many people like Thomas Jefferson, Voltaire, H. S. Remarius are NOT Christians. Victor Hugo is NOT a Catholic. David Strauss DID NOT believe in Jesus's divinity.

    In Eastern Orthodoxy, it is a tradition that the Church have to submit under the Emperor. The Monarch, the State is higher than the Church. The Church have to obey the State, and have to sacrifice its benefits for the Nation. That's why during the Great Patriotic War, Russian Orthodox Church provided full support for the Communist Party although the relationship between them were not good.

    Meanwhile, in Catholic structure of power, the Church have to obey Vatican first. I will say it again, Vatican first, Nation later. That's why, during Vietnam war, many Catholic priests cooperated with France and the U.S.... because the Pope disliked Viet Minh.

    I do not know about the situation in other countries, but in Vietnam, Catholics priests have a notorious history of treachery. Nobody will forget the Catholic tyrant named Ngô Đình Diệm, who killed thousands of people who fought for the rights of native beliefs and for Buddism.

    But of course, there are a lot of Vietnamese Catholics who are patriots, who defy the influence of Vatican and sacrifice their lives for the Nation.

    Protestant organizations are also disliked by many Vietnamese people because of their strict intepretation of the Bible. Several years ago, a Protestant pastor in Hanoi proclaimed that Vietnamese nation belongs to God, Vietnamese's ancestor is a Devil, and Vietnameses should destroy all native beliefs to follow Christianity. That speech angered the Vietnamese public and create a huge backlash in the Internet community.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  arpakola on Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:31 am



    A volunteer from Crimea returns back after being capturing by National Guard.
    They were kept prisoners in the holes in the ground, some were completely na-ked, there were civilians and women there.
    There were executions, they forced to run a group of the people clad in chain on the minefield and they were shooting if someone didn't want to run. They were already body remains there.
    At night, when officers didn't care, most terrible things happened.
    They burned on his body "separatist" and swastica symbol (1:43)


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  arpakola on Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:51 am

    Anti-Maydan rally in #Kharkov today, peaceful, until Pravy Sektor thugs came, some injured demonstrators:


    ===========================


    Atletik- Bilbao fans marched in support of Donbass




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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  arpakola on Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:28 am

    Poroshenko's speech in front of the Imperial Senate





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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:43 am

    I already pressed myself to the limit to listen 2 minutes of this. If you can follow the complete 48 minute video you must be very cold blooded person.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Werewolf on Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:55 am

    Meanwhile in Ununited Kingdom the votes of Scottlands independence are rigged.


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  arpakola on Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:01 am

    http://anti-maidan.com/index.php?p=news&tag=%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B7%D0%BE%D1%80&attempt=1
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy9LYBdhRT_BZF5pB5x3Seg

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    Ukraine SITREP September 18, 17:30 UTC/Zulu: infighting everywhere
    The situation in the Ukraine today is one of chaotic infighting in Novorussia and Banderastan.
    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.gr/2014/09/ukraine-sitrep-september-18-1730.html


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:03 am

    Werewolf wrote:Meanwhile in Ununited Kingdom the votes of Scottlands independence are rigged.



    At least they don't shell them, yet

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  higurashihougi on Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:48 am

    Werewolf wrote:Meanwhile in Ununited Kingdom the votes of Scottlands independence are rigged.

    Scotland's independence movement goes against the benefit and hegemony of the London oligarchs, and the health of London oligarchs have strong relationship with Washington DC oligarchs. Therefore they cannot let the movement succeed.

    But then, a higher level of autonomy and more funds from London is something that the SNP can manage to achieve.

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    Poroshenko have said something about "freedom" and "democracy"...

    Where ?

    Do anybody see any tiny piece of democracy or freedom in Kyiv goverment ?

    I do not see anything.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:59 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Werewolf wrote:Meanwhile in Ununited Kingdom the votes of Scottlands independence are rigged.

    Scotland's independence movement goes against the benefit and hegemony of the London oligarchs, and the health of London oligarchs have strong relationship with Washington DC oligarchs. Therefore they cannot let the movement succeed.

    But then, a higher level of autonomy and more funds from London is something that the SNP can manage to achieve.

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    Poroshenko have said something about "freedom" and "democracy"...

    Where ?

    Do anybody see any tiny piece of democracy or freedom in Kyiv goverment ?

    I do not see anything.


    No, but we see it in the American Congress lol1 lol1 lol!

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  arpakola on Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:33 pm


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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Mike E on Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:42 pm

    Werewolf wrote:Meanwhile in Ununited Kingdom the votes of Scottlands independence are rigged.

    They didn't even try to cover it up... It made the 2012 US presidential election look "fixed-free" by comparison.

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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  onwiththewar on Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:20 am



    So the rebels are the only people guarding MH17 crash site now. WTF ?

    What happened to the hundreds of Dutch + Australian "joint forces" supposedly stationed there?? So they completed their "investigations", came to no conclusion and just abandoned the whole thing??

    Poor lost souls of MH17 finished their mission as being a media stunt against Russia, they were simply abandoned and the Zionists just moved on to the next project !







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    Re: The Situation in the Ukraine. #8

    Post  Mike E on Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:22 am

    Simple, they never "investigated" but instead took some pictures that could be used in conjunction with their propaganda.

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