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    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Empty Russians to undertake seismic surveys in Greece and aegean, uder the Syriza goverment deal

    Post  arpakola 10/02/15, 10:53 pm

    http://www.cyprusgasnews.com/archives/7146/russian-company-rosgeo-will-undertake-seismic-surveys-in-greece/
    Russians  to undertake seismic surveys in Greece and aegean, under the new Syriza goverment/Russian deal
    http://www.ethnos.gr/article.asp?catid=22770&subid=2&pubid=64137288
    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Ydro-330x200
    Ρωσικό ενδιαφέρον για τις έρευνες ορυκτών και υδρογονανθράκων στην Ελλάδα
    Συνεργασία Ελλάδας και Ρωσίας στους τομείς των γεωλογικών ερευνών για υδρογονάνθρακες συμφωνήθηκε, κατά το ρωσικό πρακτορείο ΡΙΑ-Νόβοστι, στην πρόσφατη συνάντηση, που είχαν στην Αθήνα, ο γενικός διευθυντής της ρωσικής εταιρείας «OAO Rosgeologia», Ρομάν Πάνοφ και ο πρόεδρος της Copelouzos Group, Δ. Κοπελούζος, με τον υπουργό Παραγωγικής Ανασυγκρότησης, Περιβάλλοντος και Ενέργειας, Παναγιώτη Λαφαζάνη.  

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    Also ..
    Russian bases in Cyprus , Pafos airport..

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    Putin Orders to Protect Greek Leaders

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    http://www.thetotalcollapse.com/putin-orders-special-forces-to-protect-greek-leaders-life-at-all-costs/
    http://www.sahos24.com/english/2015/02/02/3113
    An exclusive report has published in the Kremlin on Monday prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs states that President Putin has ordered an immediate deployment of at least 125 special forces operatives to Greece to “insure the protection of life at all costs” of that nations new Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras.

    According to this report, Prime Minister Tsipras took office this past week after his Coalition of the Radical Left (SYRIZA) party won a “blowout” election victory sending shockwaves through the corridors of power in both the European Union and the United States.

    Upon taking office, this report continues, Prime Minister Tsipras further “shocked and stunned” both the EU and US by holding his first official government meeting with Ambassador of Russia to Greece Andrey Maslov.

    In addition to those special forces authorized by Ambassador Maslov to protect Prime Minister Tsipras, this report states, President Putin’s new order authorizes a further deployment to Greece of Foreign Intelligence Service operatives and a contingent of specialists from the Psychological Security Department (PSD) of the Presidential Security Service (SBP).

    - See more at: http://www.sahos24.com/english/2015/02/02/3113#sthash.QDaKhOsW.dpuf  

    Tsipras when in high scooll, member of the students comitee..
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    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Empty MASTER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FACILITY AGREEMENT

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    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQqVXLYyCsseZl_qT55wP3NEyqXEVgjeFNX34KdmlKbGaOrPGKWSg



    http://garizo.blogspot.gr/2015/02/master-financial-assistance-facility.html
    MASTER FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FACILITY AGREEMENT
    between EUROPEAN FINANCIAL STABILITY FACILITY THE HELLENIC REPUBLIC
    as Beneficiary Member State  THE HELLENIC FINANCIAL STABILITY FUND
    as Guarantor  and  THE BANK OF GREECE
    (as amended by the Amendment Agreement dated 12 December 2012)
    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Efsf_greece_fafa_Page_01

    "Athens, February 18, 2015
    Dear President of the Eurogroup,
    Over the last five years, the people of Greece have exerted remarkable efforts in economic adjustment. The new government is committed to a broader and deeper reform process aimed at durably improving growth and employment prospects, achieving debt sustainability and financial stability, enhancing social fairness and mitigating the significant social cost of the ongoing crisis.

    The Greek authorities recognise that the procedures agreed by the previous governments were interrupted by the recent presidential and general elections and that, as a result, several of the technical arrangements have been invalidated. The Greek authorities honour Greece's financial obligations to all its creditors as well as state our intention to cooperate with our partners in order to avert technical impediments in the context of the Master Facility Agreement which we recognise as binding vis-a-vis its financial and procedural content.

    In this context, the Greek authorities are now applying for the extension of the Master Financial Assistance Facility Agreement for a period of six months from its termination during which period we shall proceed jointly, and making best use of given flexibility in the current arrangement, toward its successful conclusion and review on the basis of the proposals of, on the one hand, the Greek government and, on the other, the institutions.

    The purpose of the requested six-month extension of the Agreement's duration is:
    (a) To agree the mutually acceptable financial and administrative terms the implementation of which, in collaboration with the institutions, will stabilise Greece's fiscal position, attain appropriate primary fiscal surpluses, guarantee debt stability and assist in the attainment of fiscal targets for 2015 that take into account the present economic situation.
    (b) To ensure, working closely with our European and international partners, that any new measures be fully funded while refraining from unilateral action that would undermine the fiscal targets, economic recovery and financial stability.
    (c) To allow the European Central Bank to re-introduce the waiver in accordance with its procedures and regulations.
    (d) To extend the availability of the EFSF bonds held by the HFSF for the duration of the Agreement.
    (e) To commence work between the technical teams on a possible new Contract for Recovery and Growth that the Greek authorities envisage between Greece, Europe and the International Monetary Fund which could follow the current Agreement.
    (f) To agree on supervision under the EU and ECB framework and, in the same spirit, with the International Monetary Fund for the duration of the extended Agreement.
    (G) To discuss means of enacting the November 2012 Eurogroup decision regarding possible further debt measures and assistance for implementation after the completion of the extended Agreement and as part of the follow-up Contract.
    With the above in mind, the Greek government expresses its determination to cooperate closely with the European Union's institutions and with the International Monetary Fund in order: (a) to attain fiscal and financial stability and (b) to enable the Greek government to introduce the substantive, far-reaching reforms that are needed to restore the living standards of millions of Greek citizens through sustainable economic growth, gainful employment and social cohesion.
    Sincerely,
    Yanis Varoufakis
    Minister of Finance
    Hellenic Republic"
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    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Empty Giscard says Greeks should consider euro exit

    Post  arpakola 20/02/15, 02:24 am

    Giscard says Greeks should consider euro exit
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/07/us-eurozone-giscard-idUSTRE7B613P20111207

    (Reuters) - Former French President Valery Giscard d'Estaing, once a champion of Greece's EU membership, now believes Athens should consider leaving the euro single currency to avoid inflicting the pain of deflation on its people

    Giscard is a longtime friend of Greece. He pressed Greece's EU candidacy over German objections, clearing the way for Athens to join what was then called the European Economic Community in 1981. Two decades later Greece joined the euro.

    In an interview at his Paris home, Giscard said Greece faced a difficult choice. On Tuesday, the Greek government approved another round of austerity measures as protesters clashed with police outside parliament. Its economy will shrink again next year, a fifth straight year of recession.


    "Greece could stay in the euro zone but it is very difficult to achieve economic recovery with a strong currency," the 85-year-old former president said. "Is it better to use a national currency for a period, or have the safety of a strong currency? It is Greece's choice."
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    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Empty SYRIZA party against EU sanctions against Russia ?

    Post  arpakola 10/06/15, 10:28 pm

    RESOLUTION of SYRIZA - KAISARIANI, District on the WAR IN UKRAINE AND THE planed SANCTIONS of EU AGAINST THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
    Greek Politics: - Page 3 RESOLUTION%2Bof%2BSYRIZA2

    http://garizo.blogspot.gr/2015/06/blog-post_10.html
    Today, on 9 June 2015 SYRIZA Kaisarianis voted and adopted the following resolution:
    -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------
    "At the beginning of 2014 the legitimate president of Ukraine was toppled by a violent coup organised by far right and Nazi elements.
    The inhabitants of the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine did not recognize the new regime and rdecided by referendums to become independent. In particular the cities of Lugansk and Donetsk they have experienced for the last year the barbarism of the bombing by the Kiev regime with heavy artillery in their cities with carnage of dead and infrastructure disasters.
    For that reason:
    1. We condemn the aggressive actions of the authoritarian regime of Kiev in the cities of East Ukraine
    2. We support the maintenance of MINSK II Agreement that includes the
    demilitarization of the conflict zone and free from heavy weapons.
    3. We call on the Greek government and the Foreign Ministry not to vote for and to vote against the planned EU sanctions proposal against Russia in late June, sanctions that will hurt also the struggling people of East Ukraine and will support the authoritarian regime of Kiev

    This resolution will be made public and proposed also to the Central Committee of the party, whih is also invited to announce a resolution on this issue. "
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    Greek Politics: - Page 3 Empty US Preparing Coup to Prevent Greece from Falling Under Russian Influence

    Post  nemrod 08/07/15, 11:40 pm

    The chief of greek army called to vote for "Yes". Iam afraid that US are mulling to reproduce the same Chile 1973 scenario for Greece.

    http://www.infowars.com/us-preparing-coup-to-prevent-greece-from-falling-under-russian-influence/


    US Preparing Coup to Prevent Greece from Falling Under Russian Influence



    by Kurt Nimmo | Infowars.com | July 6, 2015
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    The United States and Germany are prepared to engineer a coup in Greece to keep the country operating as a strategic asset on NATO’s vulnerable southeast European flank.

    “A putsch in Athens to save allied Greece from enemy Russia is in preparation by the US and Germany, with backing from the non-taxpayers of Greece – the Greek oligarchs, Anglo-Greek shipowners, and the Greek Church,” writes John Helmer, the longest continuously serving foreign correspondent in Russia not connected to the corporate media.

    The primary tip-off something is brewing can be detected by the presence of Victoria Nuland, assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, in Athens in March.

    Nuland, The Guardian reported on March 17, “flew into the capital amid mounting US concerns that the great euro debt crisis has begun to pose a geopolitical threat. Allowed to veer out of control, Greece could end up in the ambit of Russia, financially bereft and without the EU links that keep it bounded to the west. Nato’s south-eastern flank would be immeasurably weakened at a time of mounting global security worries over Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East.”

    Nuland and the United States may be working closely with Greek military to foment a coup following the historic “No” vote in a referendum of the demands of the banksters.

    She is notorious for her role in the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine and it now appears she has been assigned for a repeat in Greece. Helmer writes that when Nuland

    visited Athens to issue an ultimatum against breaking the anti-Russian sanctions regime, and the Anglo-American think-tanks followed with warnings the Russian Navy is about to sail into Piraeus, the object of the game [became] clear. The line for Operation Nemesis has been that Greece must be saved, not from itself or from its creditors, but from the enemy in Moscow.

    Russia to Rescue Greece from Bankers

    Russia is reportedly prepared to help Greece as it battles the banksters on Wall Street and Brussels. It is believed a Greek exit from the eurozone will move the country closer to Russia and deepen divisions within NATO.

    Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras of the socialist Syriza party said in mid-June an alignment with Russia is possible and hinted Greece was “ready to go to new seas to reach new safe ports.”

    Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov and Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich said during the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum Russia would consider providing loans to Greece if requested.
    Greek Military Sends Strong Message

    On Friday a number of Greek military officers publicly called for a “yes” vote.

    “Retired General Fragkoulis Fragkos, a former defense minister and one-time head of the Greek army general staff, called for a ‘loud yes on Sunday.’ In 2011, Fragkos was cashiered by then-Prime Minister George Papandreou amid rumors of a coup,” writes Alex Lantier.

    Clearly referring to Tsipras, Fragkos said that “the moral values and principles that have always defined us Greeks are not under negotiation with any clueless and historically ignorant politician who is advancing his own party interest.”

    A group of 65 retired high-ranking officers issued a statement citing their “oath to the Fatherland and the Flag” and warning, “By choosing isolation, we place the Fatherland and its future in danger.”

    Tsipras and Syriza prepared for a possible coup in January by shuffling military staff.

    “The leadership (of the military and intelligence services) was changed,” sources told Heller, “but not radically. The defense minister (Panos Kammenos) is rightist so there are no ‘radicals’ in command.”
    Greek Military is an Operation Gladio Asset

    US intervention in Greece is nothing new. Between 1987 and 1989 the US made a concerted effort to overthrow the elected Greek government of Prime Minister Andreas Papandreou.

    Prior to this in 1967 the Greek military installed the Regime of the Colonels following a coup d’état .

    The Greek military was under the control of the CIA following Greece’s entrance into NATO in 1952. Elements of the Greek military were part of the CIA’s “stay behind” network under Operation Gladio and these elements (specifically LOK, or Lochoi Oreinōn Katadromōn, i.e. “Mountain Raiding Companies”) were directly involved in the 1967 coup.

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    Post  George1 09/07/15, 03:11 am

    there is no russian influence in Greece, Greece is a member of NATO and EE
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    Post  Hannibal Barca 09/07/15, 08:41 am

    nemrod,
    The guy you are referring to Frangos, is a retired general, he is a graphic figure with no power or influence.
    Greek army officers are laughing stock. They are not useful for anything.
    Greek army is in free fall for decades.
    Leftists are traditionally used here for orange revolutions because they have terrorist groups and they have influence in the general population.
    With the left and the far-right supporting euro exodus is quite difficult for Americans to orchestrate a violent coup.
    The best they can try is to overthrow the prime minister from inwards but even this is quite hard because the existing pro EU/West parties have lost dignity.
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    Post  George1 21/08/15, 03:47 am

    Greek PM Tsipras to Announce Snap Election on September 20

    Tsipras is expected to submit his resignation to be able to take part in the election in September.

    Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras will submit his resignation to the country's president later Thursday to be able to take part in the snap parliamentary election on September 20, local media report.

    Earlier on Thursday a source in the Greek government told Sputnik the decision to hold an early election was taken after more than 35 legislators voted against the third international bailout package.

    Tsipras is holding a meeting with leaders of political parties, Sputnik correspondent reports. He will meet the president after an address to the nation.

    Panagiotis Lafazanis, a prominent member of Tsipras's Syriza party reportedly plans to establish a separate party, Left Platform, with the current parliament speaker Zoi Konstantopoulou.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150820/1025984468/greece-tsipras-resignation-election.html#ixzz3jN1JAW9T
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    Post  KiloGolf 02/09/15, 04:15 am

    The current situation puts us all between a rock and hard place... all parties have screwed up. Alexis managed to accumulate another 90 billion of debt within just 8 months. Most probable seems a joint SYRIZA-ND coalition. ANEL don't seem to be strong enough to exceed the 3% threshold. XA despite their past strong rhetoric, seems to have watered down their "activism" and that in times that the country is seeing an accumulation of some 100,000+ sunni Muslim illegals, just this year.
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    Post  KiloGolf 14/01/16, 08:37 am

    The opposition has a new leader, more of a centrist guy but he seems to be more serious than Meimarakis.

    Mitsotakis starts to shape new ND team

    Kyriakos Mitsotakis held his first meetings as New Democracy leader on Tuesday and began putting together his frontline team. Mitsotakis held separate talks with two of his predecessors, Costas Karamanlis and Antonis Samaras, on Tuesday lunchtime. There were no leaks regarding the content of the meetings but after speaking with Karamanlis, Mitsotakis said there had been a “very good” atmosphere during the gathering.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/205010/article/ekathimerini/news/mitsotakis-starts-to-shape-new-nd-team
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    Post  George1 14/01/16, 10:57 am

    KiloGolf wrote:The opposition has a new leader, more of a centrist guy but he seems to be more serious than Meimarakis.

    Mitsotakis starts to shape new ND team

    Kyriakos Mitsotakis held his first meetings as New Democracy leader on Tuesday and began putting together his frontline team. Mitsotakis held separate talks with two of his predecessors, Costas Karamanlis and Antonis Samaras, on Tuesday lunchtime. There were no leaks regarding the content of the meetings but after speaking with Karamanlis, Mitsotakis said there had been a “very good” atmosphere during the gathering.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/205010/article/ekathimerini/news/mitsotakis-starts-to-shape-new-nd-team

    It is possible that potami (river) party and even Pasok to merge into New Democracy
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    Post  KiloGolf 14/01/16, 12:09 pm

    George1 wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:The opposition has a new leader, more of a centrist guy but he seems to be more serious than Meimarakis.

    Mitsotakis starts to shape new ND team

    Kyriakos Mitsotakis held his first meetings as New Democracy leader on Tuesday and began putting together his frontline team. Mitsotakis held separate talks with two of his predecessors, Costas Karamanlis and Antonis Samaras, on Tuesday lunchtime. There were no leaks regarding the content of the meetings but after speaking with Karamanlis, Mitsotakis said there had been a “very good” atmosphere during the gathering.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/205010/article/ekathimerini/news/mitsotakis-starts-to-shape-new-nd-team

    It is possible that potami (river) party and even Pasok to merge into New Democracy

    I heard that from some PASOK folk (merge of PASOK w Potami first), although Genimata play tough.. and journalists, but nothing from Potami's side.
    What is their position on this? I don't expect their side to favor this.
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    Post  KiloGolf 18/01/16, 03:02 am

    2nd opinion poll shows New Democracy leading Syriza by 3.3%

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    A second opinion poll in as many days shows that main opposition party New Democracy (ND) has stormed ahead of governing Syriza a week after the election of Kyriakos Mitsotakis in the leadership of ND. The poll by Alco for newspaper Proto Thema shows that ND is ahead of Syriza by 3.3%. Yesterday a poll by Metron Analysis for Parapolitika showed the lead of the main opposition party at 3.7%.

    Alco’s poll shows that the ruling party lost almost half of its strength since the September 2015 elections, whereas half of the respondents say that the election of Mitsotakis is a positive development. The voting intentions are as follows:

    New Democracy: 21.3%
    Syriza: 18%
    Communist party KKE: 5.4%
    Golden Dawn: 5.2%
    Pasok-Dimar: 3.1%
    Centrists Union: 2.6%
    Independent Greeks: 1.9%
    Potami: 1.6%
    Popular Unity: 1.3%

    http://www.thetoc.gr/eng/politics/article/second-opinion-poll-shows-new-democracy-leading-syriza
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    Post  George1 28/01/16, 11:23 pm

    Netanyahu, Tsipras Discuss Power Cable to Connect Israel, Cyprus, Greece

    An undersea high-voltage power cable could soon connect Israel and Cyprus with the European mainland, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at a joint press conference with his Greek counterpart Alexis Tsipras.

    TEL AVIV (Sputnik) – The ministers signed numerous bilateral agreements during a Wednesday government to government meeting, including in the fields of economic cooperation, innovation and energy.

    "Energy also includes not merely discussing the possibilities of using our offshore gas, but also connecting Israel, Cyprus and Greece with an electricity cable that will, for the first time, enable Israel to diversify its electricity grid and even export gas through electrical energy," Netanyahu said on Thursday, as quoted by The Times of Israel.

    On Thursday, Netanyahu and Tsipras are set to travel to Cyprus to meet with President Nicos Anastasiades for a trilateral summit dedicated to regional interests.

    The EuroAsia Interconnector project proposes to link Israel with Cyprus and Greece via a submarine power cable. Cyprus will be first connected with the Greek island of Crete, which will then be linked to Peloponnese in mainland Greece.

    The project is expected to be launched in 2017.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160128/1033820523/power-cable-connection-cyprus-israel-greece.html#ixzz3yX7ZWaNm
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    Post  calm 27/01/17, 12:24 pm

    The eight Turkish officers and Greek justice
    http://www.ekathimerini.com/215644/opinion/ekathimerini/comment/the-eight-turkish-officers-and-greek-justice
    Greece does not often have the chance to show the world the value of an independent judiciary and of other democratic institutions, the chance to honor the principles of Europe.

    But on Thursday, despite the dangers that this may bring upon the country, the Supreme Court rejected Turkey’s request for the extradition of eight members of the Turkish military whom Ankara accuses of being involved in the attempted coup of July 15.

    It was not an easy decision, as the course of the issue had shown from the day after the coup attempt, when the eight arrived in the northern town of Alexandroupoli in a helicopter and requested asylum.

    But from the moment that the Turkish government’s campaign against real or perceived opponents undermined the Turkish judiciary’s independence, the Greek judges had no real choice. Extraditing the eight would have left an indelible stain on a nation that has only its pride and democratic ideals left after years of crisis, after the gross devaluation of its name and property.

    As political opportunism and expediency sweep the world – in Greece and Britain, in other European countries and the United States – the Greek judges’ verdict becomes even more important. It displays the independence and courage needed to fortify democracy.

    Everywhere. In Britain, the judges who ruled that Brexit had to be debated in Parliament were branded “enemies of the people” by supporters of Britain’s exit from the EU.

    Donald Trump’s election has lead to an unprecedented attack on news media that don’t see things as he does. We can only imagine how he will react to any judicial decisions that he does not like. Across the world, judges will be on the front line in the battle between justice and chaos.

    When “might makes right” begins to dominate everywhere, the Greek judges’ verdict is cause for respect as well as pride.

    The angrier Ankara’s response, the more important the verdict. It is imperative that we press home simple truths – that the issue is not whether we like or agree with those whom Turkey accuses of treason but whether they would be granted a fair trial in their country, whether their lives would be in danger.

    Turkey’s judiciary is under the thumb of a government that has said it intends to reinstate the death penalty retroactively. The Greek judges carried out their obligation to decide without considering the political consequences.

    Extraditing the eight would have damaged not only the standing of Greece’s judiciary but the very idea of justice.

    It would have tainted all Greeks, whose myths, literature and history are a series of brave decisions and often desperate acts against the “right” of the mighty.

    Thursday's ruling may cause damage in the short term, but it is a breath of air and a moment of pride on an endless uphill slog.
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    Post  jhelb 29/06/20, 11:00 pm

    In Greece, Muslim migrants ransacked and transformed a church into their personal toilet. This public restroom was once the St. Catherine Church in Moria, a small town on the island of Lesvos, which has been flooded with migrants who arrived via Turkey.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16166/christians-butchered
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    Post  GarryB 30/06/20, 01:47 pm

    Turkey’s judiciary is under the thumb of a government that has said it intends to reinstate the death penalty retroactively. The Greek judges carried out their obligation to decide without considering the political consequences.

    Extraditing the eight would have damaged not only the standing of Greece’s judiciary but the very idea of justice.

    It would have tainted all Greeks, whose myths, literature and history are a series of brave decisions and often desperate acts against the “right” of the mighty.

    Thursday's ruling may cause damage in the short term, but it is a breath of air and a moment of pride on an endless uphill slog.

    And if it was Russia that tried to instigate a bloody coup in Turkey or Greece instead of the US would these men still be heroes or would they be criminals for undermining democracy by trying to overthrow the leader of the country by armed means?

    Are the american mercenaries captured in venezuela trying to kidnap Maduro and take him to a political trial and likely execution in the US heroes too?

    It is interesting that a Turkish death penalty is evil but the US using drones and administering the death penalty world wide killing anyone in their way is fine... when they killed that Iranian General in Iraq after having lured him there with the promise of peace talks and killed Iraqi officials and presumably quite a few other Iraqi and Iranian soldiers was that democracy in action too?

    An @jhelb... happened in Kosovo and the EU including Greece did nothing to stop it... didn't really even mention it enough for anyone to care.

    Now it is happening in countries that are not Serbia and it is a serious problem but it is a serious problem caused by EU and US intervention in Syria and Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan... where most of the migrants seem to be coming from... you are a christian... you should understand the phrase "reap what you sow"... and I believe the christian response should be to turn the other cheek and offer a hand of friendship...
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    Post  Sujoy 03/11/20, 08:51 pm

    George1 will have a better idea if this is exactly how things are unfolding

    Greece Rushes to Establish Military Alliance With India As Turkey, Pakistan Develop Close Defence Collaboration

    https://eurasiantimes.com/greece-rushes-to-establish-military-alliance-with-india-as-turkey-pakistan-inch-close-to-defence-pact/


    https://twitter.com/NikosDendias/status/1321801258034958337?s=20
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    Post  George1 04/11/20, 02:41 am

    Sujoy wrote:George1 will have a better idea if this is exactly how things are unfolding

    Greece Rushes to Establish Military Alliance With India As Turkey, Pakistan Develop Close Defence Collaboration

    https://eurasiantimes.com/greece-rushes-to-establish-military-alliance-with-india-as-turkey-pakistan-inch-close-to-defence-pact/


    https://twitter.com/NikosDendias/status/1321801258034958337?s=20

    Υes its true, because Pakistan traditionally supports Turkey's positions in foreign affairs. Ιndia also stated that they respcet the International Law of the Sea

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    Post  Sujoy 04/11/20, 08:46 am

    George1 wrote:Υes its true, because Pakistan traditionally supports Turkey's positions in foreign affairs. Ιndia also stated that they respcet the International Law of the Sea
    Thanks for confirming George.

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    Post  Sujoy 27/02/21, 09:08 pm

    Indo-Greek Co-operation: Countering The Turkey-Pakistan Nexus

    A few more experts from Greece should have been invited for this webinar. Nonetheless, some important insights, for instance Andreas Mountzouroulias (Editor-in-Chief, Pentapostagma, Greece) says that Turkish F-16s are being flown by Pakistani pilots.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRbtNj1xe5g

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