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    Post  George1 Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:11 pm

    there is no russian influence in Greece, Greece is a member of NATO and EE
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Wed Jul 08, 2015 10:41 pm

    nemrod,
    The guy you are referring to Frangos, is a retired general, he is a graphic figure with no power or influence.
    Greek army officers are laughing stock. They are not useful for anything.
    Greek army is in free fall for decades.
    Leftists are traditionally used here for orange revolutions because they have terrorist groups and they have influence in the general population.
    With the left and the far-right supporting euro exodus is quite difficult for Americans to orchestrate a violent coup.
    The best they can try is to overthrow the prime minister from inwards but even this is quite hard because the existing pro EU/West parties have lost dignity.
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    Post  George1 Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:47 pm

    Greek PM Tsipras to Announce Snap Election on September 20

    Tsipras is expected to submit his resignation to be able to take part in the election in September.

    Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras will submit his resignation to the country's president later Thursday to be able to take part in the snap parliamentary election on September 20, local media report.

    Earlier on Thursday a source in the Greek government told Sputnik the decision to hold an early election was taken after more than 35 legislators voted against the third international bailout package.

    Tsipras is holding a meeting with leaders of political parties, Sputnik correspondent reports. He will meet the president after an address to the nation.

    Panagiotis Lafazanis, a prominent member of Tsipras's Syriza party reportedly plans to establish a separate party, Left Platform, with the current parliament speaker Zoi Konstantopoulou.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150820/1025984468/greece-tsipras-resignation-election.html#ixzz3jN1JAW9T
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    Post  KiloGolf Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:15 pm

    The current situation puts us all between a rock and hard place... all parties have screwed up. Alexis managed to accumulate another 90 billion of debt within just 8 months. Most probable seems a joint SYRIZA-ND coalition. ANEL don't seem to be strong enough to exceed the 3% threshold. XA despite their past strong rhetoric, seems to have watered down their "activism" and that in times that the country is seeing an accumulation of some 100,000+ sunni Muslim illegals, just this year.
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    Post  KiloGolf Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:37 pm

    The opposition has a new leader, more of a centrist guy but he seems to be more serious than Meimarakis.

    Mitsotakis starts to shape new ND team

    Kyriakos Mitsotakis held his first meetings as New Democracy leader on Tuesday and began putting together his frontline team. Mitsotakis held separate talks with two of his predecessors, Costas Karamanlis and Antonis Samaras, on Tuesday lunchtime. There were no leaks regarding the content of the meetings but after speaking with Karamanlis, Mitsotakis said there had been a “very good” atmosphere during the gathering.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/205010/article/ekathimerini/news/mitsotakis-starts-to-shape-new-nd-team
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    Post  George1 Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:57 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:The opposition has a new leader, more of a centrist guy but he seems to be more serious than Meimarakis.

    Mitsotakis starts to shape new ND team

    Kyriakos Mitsotakis held his first meetings as New Democracy leader on Tuesday and began putting together his frontline team. Mitsotakis held separate talks with two of his predecessors, Costas Karamanlis and Antonis Samaras, on Tuesday lunchtime. There were no leaks regarding the content of the meetings but after speaking with Karamanlis, Mitsotakis said there had been a “very good” atmosphere during the gathering.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/205010/article/ekathimerini/news/mitsotakis-starts-to-shape-new-nd-team

    It is possible that potami (river) party and even Pasok to merge into New Democracy
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    Post  KiloGolf Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:09 am

    George1 wrote:
    KiloGolf wrote:The opposition has a new leader, more of a centrist guy but he seems to be more serious than Meimarakis.

    Mitsotakis starts to shape new ND team

    Kyriakos Mitsotakis held his first meetings as New Democracy leader on Tuesday and began putting together his frontline team. Mitsotakis held separate talks with two of his predecessors, Costas Karamanlis and Antonis Samaras, on Tuesday lunchtime. There were no leaks regarding the content of the meetings but after speaking with Karamanlis, Mitsotakis said there had been a “very good” atmosphere during the gathering.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/205010/article/ekathimerini/news/mitsotakis-starts-to-shape-new-nd-team

    It is possible that potami (river) party and even Pasok to merge into New Democracy

    I heard that from some PASOK folk (merge of PASOK w Potami first), although Genimata play tough.. and journalists, but nothing from Potami's side.
    What is their position on this? I don't expect their side to favor this.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sun Jan 17, 2016 3:02 pm

    2nd opinion poll shows New Democracy leading Syriza by 3.3%

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    A second opinion poll in as many days shows that main opposition party New Democracy (ND) has stormed ahead of governing Syriza a week after the election of Kyriakos Mitsotakis in the leadership of ND. The poll by Alco for newspaper Proto Thema shows that ND is ahead of Syriza by 3.3%. Yesterday a poll by Metron Analysis for Parapolitika showed the lead of the main opposition party at 3.7%.

    Alco’s poll shows that the ruling party lost almost half of its strength since the September 2015 elections, whereas half of the respondents say that the election of Mitsotakis is a positive development. The voting intentions are as follows:

    New Democracy: 21.3%
    Syriza: 18%
    Communist party KKE: 5.4%
    Golden Dawn: 5.2%
    Pasok-Dimar: 3.1%
    Centrists Union: 2.6%
    Independent Greeks: 1.9%
    Potami: 1.6%
    Popular Unity: 1.3%

    http://www.thetoc.gr/eng/politics/article/second-opinion-poll-shows-new-democracy-leading-syriza
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    Post  George1 Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:23 am

    Netanyahu, Tsipras Discuss Power Cable to Connect Israel, Cyprus, Greece

    An undersea high-voltage power cable could soon connect Israel and Cyprus with the European mainland, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said at a joint press conference with his Greek counterpart Alexis Tsipras.

    TEL AVIV (Sputnik) – The ministers signed numerous bilateral agreements during a Wednesday government to government meeting, including in the fields of economic cooperation, innovation and energy.

    "Energy also includes not merely discussing the possibilities of using our offshore gas, but also connecting Israel, Cyprus and Greece with an electricity cable that will, for the first time, enable Israel to diversify its electricity grid and even export gas through electrical energy," Netanyahu said on Thursday, as quoted by The Times of Israel.

    On Thursday, Netanyahu and Tsipras are set to travel to Cyprus to meet with President Nicos Anastasiades for a trilateral summit dedicated to regional interests.

    The EuroAsia Interconnector project proposes to link Israel with Cyprus and Greece via a submarine power cable. Cyprus will be first connected with the Greek island of Crete, which will then be linked to Peloponnese in mainland Greece.

    The project is expected to be launched in 2017.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160128/1033820523/power-cable-connection-cyprus-israel-greece.html#ixzz3yX7ZWaNm
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    Post  calm Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:24 am

    The eight Turkish officers and Greek justice
    http://www.ekathimerini.com/215644/opinion/ekathimerini/comment/the-eight-turkish-officers-and-greek-justice
    Greece does not often have the chance to show the world the value of an independent judiciary and of other democratic institutions, the chance to honor the principles of Europe.

    But on Thursday, despite the dangers that this may bring upon the country, the Supreme Court rejected Turkey’s request for the extradition of eight members of the Turkish military whom Ankara accuses of being involved in the attempted coup of July 15.

    It was not an easy decision, as the course of the issue had shown from the day after the coup attempt, when the eight arrived in the northern town of Alexandroupoli in a helicopter and requested asylum.

    But from the moment that the Turkish government’s campaign against real or perceived opponents undermined the Turkish judiciary’s independence, the Greek judges had no real choice. Extraditing the eight would have left an indelible stain on a nation that has only its pride and democratic ideals left after years of crisis, after the gross devaluation of its name and property.

    As political opportunism and expediency sweep the world – in Greece and Britain, in other European countries and the United States – the Greek judges’ verdict becomes even more important. It displays the independence and courage needed to fortify democracy.

    Everywhere. In Britain, the judges who ruled that Brexit had to be debated in Parliament were branded “enemies of the people” by supporters of Britain’s exit from the EU.

    Donald Trump’s election has lead to an unprecedented attack on news media that don’t see things as he does. We can only imagine how he will react to any judicial decisions that he does not like. Across the world, judges will be on the front line in the battle between justice and chaos.

    When “might makes right” begins to dominate everywhere, the Greek judges’ verdict is cause for respect as well as pride.

    The angrier Ankara’s response, the more important the verdict. It is imperative that we press home simple truths – that the issue is not whether we like or agree with those whom Turkey accuses of treason but whether they would be granted a fair trial in their country, whether their lives would be in danger.

    Turkey’s judiciary is under the thumb of a government that has said it intends to reinstate the death penalty retroactively. The Greek judges carried out their obligation to decide without considering the political consequences.

    Extraditing the eight would have damaged not only the standing of Greece’s judiciary but the very idea of justice.

    It would have tainted all Greeks, whose myths, literature and history are a series of brave decisions and often desperate acts against the “right” of the mighty.

    Thursday's ruling may cause damage in the short term, but it is a breath of air and a moment of pride on an endless uphill slog.
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    Post  jhelb Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:00 pm

    In Greece, Muslim migrants ransacked and transformed a church into their personal toilet. This public restroom was once the St. Catherine Church in Moria, a small town on the island of Lesvos, which has been flooded with migrants who arrived via Turkey.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16166/christians-butchered
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:47 am

    Turkey’s judiciary is under the thumb of a government that has said it intends to reinstate the death penalty retroactively. The Greek judges carried out their obligation to decide without considering the political consequences.

    Extraditing the eight would have damaged not only the standing of Greece’s judiciary but the very idea of justice.

    It would have tainted all Greeks, whose myths, literature and history are a series of brave decisions and often desperate acts against the “right” of the mighty.

    Thursday's ruling may cause damage in the short term, but it is a breath of air and a moment of pride on an endless uphill slog.

    And if it was Russia that tried to instigate a bloody coup in Turkey or Greece instead of the US would these men still be heroes or would they be criminals for undermining democracy by trying to overthrow the leader of the country by armed means?

    Are the american mercenaries captured in venezuela trying to kidnap Maduro and take him to a political trial and likely execution in the US heroes too?

    It is interesting that a Turkish death penalty is evil but the US using drones and administering the death penalty world wide killing anyone in their way is fine... when they killed that Iranian General in Iraq after having lured him there with the promise of peace talks and killed Iraqi officials and presumably quite a few other Iraqi and Iranian soldiers was that democracy in action too?

    An @jhelb... happened in Kosovo and the EU including Greece did nothing to stop it... didn't really even mention it enough for anyone to care.

    Now it is happening in countries that are not Serbia and it is a serious problem but it is a serious problem caused by EU and US intervention in Syria and Iraq and Libya and Afghanistan... where most of the migrants seem to be coming from... you are a christian... you should understand the phrase "reap what you sow"... and I believe the christian response should be to turn the other cheek and offer a hand of friendship...
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    Post  Sujoy Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:51 am

    George1 will have a better idea if this is exactly how things are unfolding

    Greece Rushes to Establish Military Alliance With India As Turkey, Pakistan Develop Close Defence Collaboration

    https://eurasiantimes.com/greece-rushes-to-establish-military-alliance-with-india-as-turkey-pakistan-inch-close-to-defence-pact/


    https://twitter.com/NikosDendias/status/1321801258034958337?s=20
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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:41 pm

    Sujoy wrote:George1 will have a better idea if this is exactly how things are unfolding

    Greece Rushes to Establish Military Alliance With India As Turkey, Pakistan Develop Close Defence Collaboration

    https://eurasiantimes.com/greece-rushes-to-establish-military-alliance-with-india-as-turkey-pakistan-inch-close-to-defence-pact/


    https://twitter.com/NikosDendias/status/1321801258034958337?s=20

    Υes its true, because Pakistan traditionally supports Turkey's positions in foreign affairs. Ιndia also stated that they respcet the International Law of the Sea

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    Post  Sujoy Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:46 pm

    George1 wrote:Υes its true, because Pakistan traditionally supports Turkey's positions in foreign affairs. Ιndia also stated that they respcet the International Law of the Sea
    Thanks for confirming George.

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    Post  Sujoy Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:08 am

    Indo-Greek Co-operation: Countering The Turkey-Pakistan Nexus

    A few more experts from Greece should have been invited for this webinar. Nonetheless, some important insights, for instance Andreas Mountzouroulias (Editor-in-Chief, Pentapostagma, Greece) says that Turkish F-16s are being flown by Pakistani pilots.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRbtNj1xe5g

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