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    Greek wildfire near Athens spreads, thousands flee

    Post  Jelena on Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:12 pm

    Greek wildfire near Athens spreads, thousands flee



    By Angeliki Koutantou and Dina Kyriakidou

    ATHENS, Aug 23 (Reuters) - Strong winds on Sunday fanned a huge wildfire that tore through scores of homes and thousands of acres of forest near Athens, forcing thousands of residents to flee, authorities said.

    Thick plumes of smoke hung over the Acropolis as the flames, raging unchecked for a second day, reached the Greek capital's northern suburbs, testing state resources and the conservative government, which is facing a snap election by March.

    "The winds are stronger and change direction all the time, spreading the fire even further," said fire brigade spokesman Giannis Kapakis.

    Local authorities used loudspeakers to advise residents of Aghios Stefanos to leave the suburb of 20,000, as flames licked its first homes. Many abandoned their homes around Athens overnight and some were frantically trying to stop the flames from reaching houses with garden hoses and tree branches.

    "We are facing a great ordeal," Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis said. "The fire department is making a superhuman effort."

    The handling of the fire, the biggest since Greece's worst wildfires in living memory killed 65 people in a 10-day inferno in 2007, will be crucial for his political fate as snap polls loom. His government, which is clinging to a one-seat majority in parliament, trails the socialist opposition in opinion polls.

    Greek authorities declared a state of emergency in eastern Attica on Saturday where the flames seared about 30,000 acres (12,140 hectares) of forest, farming fields and olive groves.

    "More than 120,000 stremmas (30,000 acres) have been burnt. It is an ecological disaster," Athens prefect Yiannis Sgouros told Greek television.

    Help from Greece's EU allies started to arrive. Two Italian aircraft joined fire fighting efforts and more were expected from France and Cyprus on Sunday, fire officials said.



    EMERGENCY MEETING

    Karamanlis made a helicopter tour of the area on Sunday and chaired a emergency government meeting as the Greek weather service warned winds were not expected to abate before Monday night, hindering fire fighting efforts.

    "The situation is extremely difficult due to the weather conditions," Interior Minister Prokopis Pavlopoulos told reporters after the meeting.

    Greek officials and eyewitnesses said the fire had also reached the suburbs of Anthoussa, Pallini, Pikermi and Dionyssos and that there were people refusing to leave their property as flames approached.

    The fire broke out late on Friday in the village of Grammatiko about 40 km (25 miles) northeast of the Greek capital and quickly spread to neighbouring villages and Athens suburbs. A children's hospital and a home for the elderly were evacuated.

    Police and witnesses said scores of homes were heavily damaged but the fire brigade declined to give official data until the blaze was put out.

    "The destruction is enormous," Aghios Stefanos deputy mayor Panagiotis Bitakos told Greek television. "They allowed one fire to destroy all of Attica."

    Twelve aircraft, seven helicopters, 136 fire engines and about 644 firefighters were battling the blaze, fire officials said. Some 340 soldiers were also dispatched to the fires.

    Gale-force winds have fanned more than 100 blazes across Greece in the last three days. Fires also raged on the islands of Zakynthos, Evia, Skyros, and the central Greek Viotia area.

    Summer fires are frequent in Greece, often caused by high temperatures and winds, drought or arson. Hundreds of fires raged across southern Europe in July, destroying thousands of hectares of forest and gutting dozens of homes.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLN250275
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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  Vladimir79 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 5:41 pm

    That time of year again. I suppose we will send our fire fighting aviation units as usual.
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    Post  Jelena on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:16 pm

    Vladimir79 wrote:That time of year again.
    Depends...further investigation will show what really happened!

    I suppose we will send our fire fighting aviation units as usual.
    They suppose to do it today-ask Russia to help (don't know what they waited till now).
    It is complete catastrophe 'cause wildfire spread on Marathon (historic site) and Athens is in great danger! Sad
    Here is the video, although in Greek you can understand the situation from it.
    http://www.in.gr/video/default.aspx?videoID=89112
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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  Jelena on Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:46 am

    While firefighters are trying to gain some control over the situation and thousands of people has been evacuated some obviously do not care at all!!!

    Albanian man burns wife


    August 24 2009 at 01:35AM

    Athens - An Albanian man tried to kill his wife on Sunday by setting her on fire, in an incident that also caused a brush fire in west Athens, police said.

    The 41-year old in the district of Ano Liosia "poured a flammable liquid on his wife with the purpose of killing her", the police said in a statement.

    The 27-year-old woman ran into a clump of bushes and set them on fire.

    She was later taken to an Athens hospital with major burn injuries.

    The suspect tried to drive off but was later arrested by police.

    The blaze was rapidly extinguished by the Greek fire department, which has been hard pressed to contain a massive wildfire threatening Athens' eastern and north-eastern suburbs. - AFP

    http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?from=rss_World&set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=nw20090823223443172C422098
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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:26 pm

    Just what the Greek fire authorities need right now, pyro homicidal schiptars. Time for some deportations.
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    Post  Vladimir79 on Mon Aug 24, 2009 5:31 pm

    Russia sends Greece two planes to fight wildfires

    MOSCOW, August 24 (RIA Novosti) - Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has instructed the emergencies ministry to send two airplanes to Greece to help in putting out wildfires, a ministry spokesman said on Monday.

    Greece has been swept by fires over the past few days, including a severe blaze to the northeast of Athens. Thousands of acres of forest and dozens of homes have been destroyed, and thousands of residents have been evacuated. No deaths have been reported.

    "On the instructions of the president, the emergencies ministry will send two firefighting airplanes to Greece - an Il-76 (Candid) and Be-200 (Altair)," the spokesman told RIA Novosti.

    So far France, Italy and Cyprus have sent firefighting airplanes and helicopters to Greece.

    Five helicopters are currently fighting a fire to the northwest of Athens, which is threatening forests on the coast of the Corinthian Gulf, four airplanes are working on the island of Euboea in the Aegean Sea, and one more on the island of Zante in the Ionian Sea.

    In 2007, fires that raged for 10 days on Greece's Peloponnese Peninsula claimed 65 lives.

    http://en.rian.ru/world/20090824/155908836.html
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    Post  Jelena on Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:59 pm

    Arson clue found at Grammatiko


    The police’s forensic department was yesterday examining an unexploded incendiary device found near the area in Grammatiko, northeastern Attica, where a catastrophic wildfire started last Friday.

    The device was found by authorities in a spot only accessible by motorcycle or on foot, police said. The discovery of the device confirms suspicions of arson being the cause of the Grammatiko fire, though it is unclear whether there is any connection with an ongoing dispute over the government’s plans to create in the area a second landfill for Attica.

    Back in Athens, an investigation got under way into the authorities’ handling of this week’s catastrophic wildfires. The general inspector of public administration, Leandros Rakintzis, reportedly asked senior officials of the fire service and regional authority representatives to determine what exactly went wrong last weekend, allowing the fires to spread so quickly and reach the capital’s northeastern suburbs.

    Meanwhile, forestry experts have told Kathimerini that the creation of “mixed forests” including fire-resistant greenery would be a good way of averting such catastrophes in the future. According to Georgios Lyrintzis, director of the Institute of Forestry Research of Athens, about 5,000 hectares of some 20,000 hectares burned in the fires can be reforested. But Lyrintzis suggested a more creative approach to reforesting that would give the regenerated land some built-in protection. Instead of simply replanting pine saplings to replace the burned trees, most of which are pines, he proposed the planting of other saplings and shrubs. “A mixed forest is definitely more resilient to fire and it also has the added benefit of offering more sources of food for resident birds,” Lyrintzis said.

    http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_politics_1_29/08/2009_110242
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    Post  arpakola on Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:55 pm

    new crisis in Greek Politics..

    The General secretery of the Greek goverment - Takis Baltakos -  

    admits that the Members of the Greek Palriament members of Golden Dawn party (Ultra Right Wing) were jailed on personal order of prime minister Mr Samaras because of their popularity in the right wing audiance , cutting   votes from  the Governing right wing party New Democracy hoping to take in the coming elections..

    The private conversation was recorded on video >>
    http://rutube.ru/video/41f1a732d6a912dcf0ed32a37eafbfd6/

    and here is the event announced  in the Greek parliament

    Mr. Kasidiaris is the speaker of Golden Dawn..
    http://www.koolnews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kasidiaris-5701.jpg
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    here is in Greek the dialogues on the 1st video between Kasidiaris (Golden Dawn member of parliament and T. Baltakos G. secretery of the Goverment) >>




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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:27 pm

    arpakola apart from me nobody else understands Greek here so....  Very Happy 

    For the non Greek speakers long story short, this is a video footage of a top government dignitary who confess illegal actions against other political parties (nationalists).
    This is on par with the Nuland tapes, or the ones with the Estonian minister and Aston or with Erdogan's tapes but unlike the other ones this is a candid camera not a tapping.
    With this and that it seems that the government in Greece enters a period of very serious crisis which puts the whole presence of IMF in the country in jeopardy...
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    Post  arpakola on Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:32 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:arpakola apart from me nobody else understands Greek here so....  Very Happy 

    For the non Greek speakers long story short, this is a video footage of a top government dignitary who confess illegal actions against other political parties (nationalists).
    This is on par with the Nuland tapes, or the ones with the Estonian minister and Aston or with Erdogan's tapes but unlike the other ones this is a candid camera not a tapping.
    With this and that it seems that the government in Greece enters a period of very serious crisis which puts the whole presence of IMF in the country in jeopardy...

    Actually this comes at a time before the EU elections and local authority elections.

    Golden Daum is a far - far ultra nationalist party with 8% of national vote. http://www.xryshaygh.com/
    This cuts off essential votes of the central Right wing party ( NATO friendly)
    Golden Daum is NOT NATO friendly..

    So there was some months ago .. a senario to put the whole (anti NATO golden Daum party) out of law...

    BUT...

    truth is very persistent  and this video of the secretary general of the ruling New Democracy party .. destroyes at the moment the plans of the pro NATO right wing gov to totaly outlaw the (anti NATO) ultra right Golden Dawm..

    the secretary general, Baltakos already resigned ...
    the image of New Democracy party .. partialy ruined


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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:01 pm

    Very well written! I agree in everything arpakola said except the last one.

    The image of New Democracy party is not partially ruined, is completely ruined. American occupation is barely strangling to hang on over here.
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    Post  arpakola on Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:07 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Very well written! I agree in everything arpakola said except the last one.

    The image of New Democracy party is not partially ruined, is completely ruined. American occupation is barely strangling to hang on over here.

    well
    everything in Greece (at the moment) is partially done...

    but we have some good moments also...

    (tins don't  mater... heart does..)
    [Aegean .. a Greek sea ,..we have  opened... and waiting  for..]
    ..them mood is to f... NATO with NATO tins

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    Greek SA-8 AntiAir System locks a Turkish F-4

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    Post  arpakola on Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:58 am

    ex Prime Minister , Mr Papandreou (and leading figure of the EU socialist party ) .. just called for the resignasion of the minister o Justice Mr Dendias
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26857479

    A top aide to Greek PM Antonis Samaras has resigned over a videotape in which he appears to accuse his boss of influencing a criminal investigation.

    In the video, Panayiotis Baltakos is seen speaking to a spokesman for the far-right Golden Dawn party about the arrest of its leaders in September.

    Golden Dawn accuses the conservative-led coalition government of persecuting it for political reasons.

    A government minister rejected the accusation as a fantasy.

    Mr Baltakos..

    The latest developments are at the very least an embarrassment for the government but will also be seen as further evidence that Greece's judiciary is not independent and that the case against Golden Dawn is on shaky ground, the BBC's Mark Lowen reports from Athens.

    Since coming to power at the head of a broad coalition government in June 2012, Mr Samaras has been credited with putting the debt-ridden eurozone country on the track to economic recovery.

    It is now forecast to exit six years of recession this year, its deficit has been wiped out - save for interest on the bailout - and Athens is preparing a return to the markets for the first time since 2010.

    'No evidence'
    At the last general election, in June 2012, Golden Dawn won 7% of the vote to 30% for Mr Samaras's New Democracy party.

    Golden Dawn's spokesman, Ilias Kasidiaris, was among seven party MPs arrested in September, charged with being part of a criminal group.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca on Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:08 am

    From what it looks like lately Russian agencies backed the taping of the far right political party Golden Dawn against the Jewish-American controlled government.
    My first thoughts are (and I will not hide my thoughts now to save my credibility) that East finally decided to make it's move in Greece.
    Like I already said, indeed Greece is ready to change sides since in any case our natural position is in the East.
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    Post  arpakola on Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:19 am

    Hannibal Barca wrote:From what it looks like lately Russian agencies backed the taping of the far right political party Golden Dawn against the Jewish-American controlled government.
    My first thoughts are (and I will not hide my thoughts now to save my credibility) that East finally decided to make it's move in Greece.
    Like I already said, indeed Greece is ready to change sides since in any case our natural position is in the East.

    Greece is the weak link of NATO , since is very pro Russian.
    (Putin visiting Agio Oros (holly mountain monastry area in Northern Greece)

    Greece was the last country of EU/SENGEN that was allowed free visa to US a couple of years ago , Polish already had..

    The video was just uploaded to a  Russian site .. nothing more..
    Also Greece is very deep in the NATO sheet ... so is early to say that will change side.. but still will remain the weak NATO link and always in confrontation with an other NATO country.. Turkey
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    Post  arpakola on Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:45 pm

    arpakola wrote:new crisis in Greek Politics..

    The General secretery of the Greek goverment - Takis Baltakos -  

    admits that the Members of the Greek Palriament members of Golden Dawn party (Ultra Right Wing) were jailed on personal order of prime minister Mr Samaras because of their popularity in the right wing audiance , cutting   votes from  the Governing right wing party New Democracy hoping to take in the coming elections..

    The private conversation was recorded on video >>
    http://rutube.ru/video/41f1a732d6a912dcf0ed32a37eafbfd6/

    and here is the event announced  in the Greek parliament

    Mr. Kasidiaris is the speaker of Golden Dawn..
    http://www.koolnews.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/kasidiaris-5701.jpg

    οhhh  well...
    chiken rutube???

    http://rutube.ru/video/41f1a732d6a912dcf0ed32a37eafbfd6/


    new videos to come... next (youtube perhaps..)
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    Public Prosecutor in political bargaining Jails the political opponents of her party.. ?

    Post  arpakola on Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:30 pm


    the above first email letter is sent from Konstandinos Ganatsios(?) Public  Prosecutor of the higher Court of Athens to an anonymous receiver yet , that he complains and proposes as URGENT to raise a question in the Greek parliament (so that suggests that the receiver may be a speaker or Minister..) as the way an other Public Prosecutor Mrs Klapa (or Clapa) was apointed responsible for the prosecution of Golden Dawn. He calims taht  10 days before her apointment as the responsible prosecutor for the case , in front of another 20 Judges and Public prosecutors she was shouting and almost happily dancing in front of them .. that the minister of Justice (bypassing any formal procedure) Mr Athanasiou, will directly appoint her responsible for the case of Golden Dawn , and that she is going to get them in to jail anyway!! ALL !!
    Note that the appointement in these cases is not ministers job (formaly is forbiden to intervene) but of the President of the Prosecutors Board..
    Now some details..
    Mrs Klapa is member (or strong supporter) of a strongly PRO European socialdemocratic party "DIMAR" (her husband P. Klapas is high ranking member of the party).. and Golden Dawn is strongly Anti Εuropean. And we have elections for the European parliament 25 of MAY !!!

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    the second document is an official document .. actually is a copy of the minutes of the Judges meeting to "appoint" Mrs Klapa , where the complains of Konstandinos Ganatsios are expressed in writing about the way Mrs Klapa was appointed , so this makes a strong evidence that the first letter /email is correct and not fake.
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    And this is the video of the Parliament speaker Mr kasidiaris that refers to the issue

    many questions to be answered yet ...
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    In the EBU debate for the european elections , Tsipras (Greek Left party) representing European Left

    Post  arpakola on Fri May 16, 2014 10:14 am

    http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/ebs/live.cfm?page=2

    In the EBU debate for the european elections , Tsipras (Greek Left party) representing European Left , differentiates in many aspects (including the Ukranian crisis) from the rest stream line Euro "leaders"





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    also from the last visit in Moscow 3 days ago , whre he declared that the Ukranian "goverment" is to be blamed for the events and killings in Ukraine , leting the fascist raid the east




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    Tsipras ( SYRIZA left wing party) claims ..that Greece is and will be with in NATO

    Post  arpakola on Tue May 20, 2014 9:53 am

    Tsipras ( SYRIZA left wing party) claims ..that Greece is and will be with in NATO .. and that is unquestionable . !!
    I would like to mension that so far .. all the left wing parties in Greece are against NATO , even SYRIZA in their congress
    claim that Greece must "abstain" from NATO..


    here is a quote of the gongress desision (in Greek)
    ΠΟΛΙΤΙΚΗ ΑΠΟΦΑΣΗ ΙΔΡΥΤΙΚΟΥ ΣΥΝΕΔΡΙΟΥ ΤΟΥ ΣΥΡΙΖΑ
    13. 28. . Προωθούμε την ένταξη στο διεθνές γίγνεσθαι της χώρας μας μέσω μιας ανεξάρτητης, πολυδιάστατης και φιλειρηνικής εξωτερικής πολιτικής, που θα εδράζεται στην ισότιμη συνεργασία, στην εθνική ανεξαρτησία και στην προστασία της εδαφικής μας ακεραιότητας. Η Ελλάδα είναι χώρα της Ευρώπης και ταυτόχρονα των Βαλκανίων και της Μεσογείου, σε εγγύτατη συνάφεια με τις εστίες μόνιμης έντασης που αποτελούν οι χώρες της Μέσης Ανατολής. Η σύνθετη αυτή πραγματικότητα εγκυμονεί κινδύνους, αλλά παρέχει και ευκαιρίες. Οι δεσμοί φιλίας και καλής γειτονίας με όλες ανεξαιρέτως τις χώρες, στη βάση του σεβασμού των συνόρων και των κυριαρχικών δικαιωμάτων και οι εγκάρδιες σχέσεις με τα προοδευτικά κινήματα και τις προοδευτικές κυβερνήσεις παντού στον κόσμο, μπορούν να αποτελέσουν ασπίδα προστασίας απέναντι στην εξαιρετικά επισφαλή παγκόσμια κατάσταση αλλά και φιλειρηνική ενεργό παρέμβαση στις διεθνείς εντάσεις που αναπτύσσονται. Η στήριξη της Κυπριακής Δημοκρατίας για την επίλυση του Κυπριακού, ο σεβασμός των διεθνών συμβάσεων και των σχετικών ψηφισμάτων του ΟΗΕ, η απεμπλοκή από το ΝΑΤΟ, η κατάργηση των ξένων στρατιωτικών βάσεων, η αποτροπή της στρατιωτικής συνεργασίας με το Ισραήλ και η εφαρμογή της αρχής «κανείς Έλληνας στρατιώτης σε πολεμικά μέτωπα έξω από τα σύνορα της χώρας» συνιστούν άξονες της εξωτερικής μας πολιτικής. Ο αγώνας για την ειρήνη και τον πυρηνικό αφοπλισμό διατηρεί για τον ΣΥΡΙΖΑ την προτεραιότητά του και συνδέεται στενά με τους αγώνες για τη δημοκρατία.
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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Tue May 20, 2014 10:43 am

    Things not going well in Greece currently. Pro Western forces gaining momentum once again. For the non Western forces being the nationalist Golden Dawn and the Communist KKE combined some 16-20% and for the latter I am not even sure... Thus it is not so easy to move forward currently. The number of people against EU and Europe and NATO and Euro must range from 50 to 80% but they are fragmented, terrified, cheated, treated, confused and out of the pillars of power and the media.

    As a side note. Left is here, like everywhere else, a joke. It will simply not work with them, full stop. No one ever managed to come up with a semi working economic model from the left spectrum. They have to follow the footsteps of others lying in the process and pretending otherwise. This is always recipe for disaster.
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    Geece public debt as per 31/12/2014 = 341 BILLION EUROS !!!

    Post  arpakola on Fri May 23, 2014 5:34 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Things not going well in Greece currently. Pro Western forces gaining momentum once again. For the non Western forces being the nationalist Golden Dawn and the Communist KKE combined some 16-20% and for the latter I am not even sure... Thus it is not so easy to move forward currently. The number of people against EU and Europe and NATO and Euro must range from 50 to 80% but they are fragmented, terrified, cheated, treated, confused and out of the pillars of power and the media.

    As a side note. Left is here, like everywhere else, a joke. It will simply not work with them, full stop. No one ever managed to come up with a semi working economic model from the left spectrum. They have to follow the footsteps of others lying in the process and pretending otherwise. This is always recipe for disaster.

    SYRIZA should'nt be accounted as pro western ..
    It was the only major party in Europe that condemted the Ukranian government and has diversified from the NATO mainstream

    any way

    Geece public debt as per 31/12/2014 = 341 BILLION EUROS !!!  Laughing lol! 
    (so .. they must take care of our health now..)
    Bankers already know . that they will never going to get their money back .. perhaps the 10-15% of it in due time .. !



    U see .. nobody has to destroy us .. we can do it by ourselfs,  enjoying it
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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  arpakola on Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:17 pm

    Ex army General Dimitrios Grapsas to be nominated for the forthcoming Presidential elections
    http://www.noiazomai.net/grapsas.html
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    Re: Greek Politics:

    Post  Hannibal Barca on Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:42 pm

    Yesterday I was fishing with the vice-president of the 2nd or 3rd biggest bank in Greece. He was wearing a swimming suit with the American flag up there!
    Like a brainwashed 15yo chick or something. WTF this really speaks on itself I think.
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    Post  George1 on Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:39 pm

    Hannibal Barca wrote:Yesterday I was fishing with the vice-president of the 2nd or 3rd biggest bank in Greece. He was wearing a swimming suit with the American flag up there!
    Like a brainwashed 15yo chick or something. WTF this really speaks on itself I think.

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