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    TheArmenian

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  TheArmenian on Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:16 pm

    Beware, there may be misinterpretation about the 3 additional Pr. 11356 frigates. They may be referring to the second batch of 3 that are still unfinished in the shipyard.
    Let's wait and not jump for conclusions.

    In any case, those 3 that are still in construction are not going to the Indian Navy. Here is the confirmation:

    http://flotprom.ru/2017/%D0%92%D0%BC%D1%8424/

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:29 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:Beware, there may be misinterpretation about the 3 additional Pr. 11356 frigates. They may be referring to  the second batch of 3 that are still unfinished in the shipyard.
    Let's wait and not jump for conclusions.

    In any case, those 3 that are still in construction are not going to the Indian Navy. Here is the confirmation:

    http://flotprom.ru/2017/%D0%92%D0%BC%D1%8424/


    Could be. I am still hoping that all next frigates for Navy will be Gorshkovs.
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Isos on Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:01 pm

    Benya wrote:
    Isos wrote:For what fleet ?

    It seems they are going to go for Grigorovitch and super gorshkov and stop their plan of 20+ Gorshkovs.

    Most likely for the Black Sea one, in order to further bolster its defenses and to patrol the Black and Mediterranean Seas

    The black see fleet is the most important for now with the baltic. Tensions grew up very quickly. The should send the Moskva in the north and put more smaller frigate there.
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Rodion_Romanovic on Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:39 pm


    Russia Won’t Sell Unfinished Project 11356 Frigates to India


    http://mil.today/2017/Weapons60/

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  hoom on Sat Jul 01, 2017 2:54 pm

    For what fleet ?
    My bet is initially 3 each BSF, Pacific & North/Baltic.
    Gradually concentrating in BSF (3* semi-permanent @Latakia?) as other ships come online for those other fleets.
    Or they'll add a further 3* later -> 6* each BSF & Pacific?
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  kvs on Sat Jul 01, 2017 3:09 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    Russia Won’t Sell Unfinished Project 11356 Frigates to India


    http://mil.today/2017/Weapons60/


    They were never going to sell them off. This was pure Russia bashing fantasy by all the clowns who believed that
    Russia had no capacity to replace the gas turbines produced by Zorya-Mashproect.

    The article writer has an idiotic way of linking the clarification of the non-sale to the engine replacement by NPO Saturn.
    There is nothing "interesting" about this replacement, it was going to happen sooner rather than later. What motive
    could there possibly be to sell off these ships if the replacement program was fully active?

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/95405/

    These Ukrainian product could only be replaced on a tight schedule if they constructed a new engine with modern design
    and production tools instead of trying to make a copy. This also kills off any Ukrainian claims to patent infringement although
    anything originating from the USSR should be automatically shared among all of its fragment republics.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  Austin on Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:56 pm

    Thats good , Russia needs more of 1135.6 frigate more than India needs it , So no point selling half built to any other country better to build that for Russian Navy.

    For Indian Navy they will build 2 new 11356 frigate in Russia and 2 in India at Goa Ship yard

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2699720.html

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:21 am

    Austin wrote:Thats good , Russia needs more of 1135.6 frigate more than India needs it , So no point selling half built to any other country better to build that for Russian Navy.

    For Indian Navy they will build 2 new 11356 frigate in Russia and 2 in India at Goa Ship yard

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2699720.html


    I said this...months ago.
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  hoom on Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:43 am

    Bunch of pics of Makarov on the way to IMDS http://foto-i-mir.ru/11356-makarov-170627/
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  franco on Tue Jul 04, 2017 2:39 am

    According to this article the 2 partially built 1135.6 will be completed for the Indian Navy and then 3 brand new frigates will built for the Russian Navy. dunno

    http://mil.today/2017/Weapons57/

    And then two days later,

    http://mil.today/2017/Weapons60/  Suspect

    Guess we have to wait Rolling Eyes
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  hoom on Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:40 pm

    Essen has passed the Bosphorus & arrived at Sevastopol cheers
    Bosphorus

    Sevastopol


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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  George1 on Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:06 am



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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  hoom on Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:47 am

    Bunch of onboard & interior pics of Makarov at IMDS http://nortwolf-sam.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/2017_7.html

    And Essen reloading at Sevastopol http://nortwolf-sam.blogspot.co.nz/2017/07/blog-post_78.html

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  marat on Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:13 pm

    Will Makarov join BSF this year?
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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  hoom on Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:01 pm

    It's been said it will but who knows if it actually will or not dunno

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  miroslav on Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:56 pm

    Amd. Essen already back in action.

    As far as the Adm. Makarov, the latest news is that it will be transferred to the BSF in November. What "transferred" actually means is not clear, it could mean that the ship will be commissioned in November but it could, hopefully, mean that it will be commissioned earlier and make the actual transfer to Black sea in November.
    The ship is obviously done, the test are over as far as I can figure it out, the main delay that happened earlier with the testing of the Shtil-1 SAM was linked, as reported by a third party, to the testing of the all new active guided missile, the 9M317A / 9M317MAE.

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    Re: Project 11356: Admiral Grigorovich

    Post  hoom on Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:11 pm

    Nice, back to Syria presumably?

    It occurs to me the reason for the seemingly crazy long time between going into service & transfer to Black Sea is probably the necessity to work up the crew.
    Even though they would have gained experience during trials, a trip from Baltic to Black Sea -including combat missile launches on the way- is no small task to send a totally green crew out on.

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