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    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Post  SOC Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:55 am

    Did all of the first batch of 32 go to Baltimor?
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    Post  TR1 Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:12 am

    Aside from detours @ Lipetsk, I believe so.

    Though there was news that this year there would be deliveries to a base in the Western Military District.
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    Post  medo Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:31 pm

    Didn't MoD plan to start equipping second regiment of Su-34 in Chelyabinsk this year? I think from 14 build this year 4 should go to Baltimor to complete regiment with 24 planes and other 10 to Chelyabinsk regiment.
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    Post  calripson Sat Oct 26, 2013 4:47 am

    I believe the article states that four of the new planes are going to be based in the Rostov region not in Voronezh like the existing planes. The earlier post referenced Chelyabinsk as the next basing location but it looks like the emphasis is on the Southern Military District.
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    Post  Viktor Tue Nov 05, 2013 4:12 pm

    nice. 

    Two simulator for the Su-34 will arrive at the Defense Ministry in November 2014
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    Post  medo Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:56 pm

    http://vpk.name/news/99662_luchshii_samolet_nesostoyavsheisya_voinyi.html

    This article is quite interesting, specially in part, where it claim, that Su-34 EO complex have both TV and TI channels, what means Su-34 doesn't need any outside targeting pod to operate in night time. But as they see in operations in Ingushetia, its thermal imager channel is not as good as in LANTIRN pod and have difficulties to find small targets in mountains and forests.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:17 pm

    medo wrote:http://vpk.name/news/99662_luchshii_samolet_nesostoyavsheisya_voinyi.html

    This article is quite interesting, specially in part, where it claim, that Su-34 EO complex have both TV and TI channels, what means Su-34 doesn't need any outside targeting pod to operate in night time. But as they see in operations in Ingushetia, its thermal imager channel is not as good as in LANTIRN pod and have difficulties to find small targets in mountains and forests.
    I wonder which camera system they are using then? I know Russia had gotten a contract for assembling/building domacles pod from France and that is equivalent to lantirn and lightning. Unless they are still using the older optronic suite since the 90's... if so, they should upgrade that, as Su-34 will be used for a long time and a lot are ordered.
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    Post  TR1 Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:56 pm

    medo wrote:http://vpk.name/news/99662_luchshii_samolet_nesostoyavsheisya_voinyi.html

    This article is quite interesting, specially in part, where it claim, that Su-34 EO complex have both TV and TI channels, what means Su-34 doesn't need any outside targeting pod to operate in night time. But as they see in operations in Ingushetia, its thermal imager channel is not as good as in LANTIRN pod and have difficulties to find small targets in mountains and forests.
    Article has been criticized hard on Russian forums.

    Wouldn't put terribly much stock into it.
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    Post  GarryB Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:55 pm

    A super sophisticated internal system is not largely warranted... it makes sense to use a simpler system that is good enough for most tasks on every aircraft, with a specialised pod for dedicated work as an option.

    They are developing a dedicated pod for the PAK FA for ground attack so perhaps using that pod on the Su-34 and Su-35 might make a lot of sense.

    But as they see in operations in Ingushetia, its thermal imager channel is not as good as in LANTIRN pod and have difficulties to find small targets in mountains and forests.
    NATO had LANTIRN in Kosovo and still had problems finding targets...
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    Post  medo Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:07 pm

    sepheronx wrote:
    medo wrote:http://vpk.name/news/99662_luchshii_samolet_nesostoyavsheisya_voinyi.html

    This article is quite interesting, specially in part, where it claim, that Su-34 EO complex have both TV and TI channels, what means Su-34 doesn't need any outside targeting pod to operate in night time. But as they see in operations in Ingushetia, its thermal imager channel is not as good as in LANTIRN pod and have difficulties to find small targets in mountains and forests.
    I wonder which camera system they are using then? I know Russia had gotten a contract for assembling/building domacles pod from France and that is equivalent to lantirn and lightning. Unless they are still using the older optronic suite since the 90's... if so, they should upgrade that, as Su-34 will be used for a long time and a lot are ordered.
    Who knows. Platan EO complex is quite secretive device as well as V004 radar. It was even not known, that Platan have thermal imager inside.

    About article, it is quite strange, that they want to use Su-34 as CAS plane to hunt terrorists in forests, what is more a job for CAS plane as Su-25. Anyway, mountains, hills and forests well reduce range for radar, TV or thermal imager to find target, what we also see in Kosovo. Other story is plain desert. I'm sure Platan is more than good enough to do the job it is intended to do.

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    Post  TR1 Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:18 pm

    I still am not convinced Platan has thermal channel.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:03 am

    From memory I remember reading it had a night channel, but that that was image intensification rather than thermal which made it fairly limited.


    As TR-1 has mentioned the Su-34 and Su-24 before it are strike aircraft, it is simply not their job to hunt elusive targets... they should be going after fixed points like bridges or HQs or fuel depots or even enemy staging points.

    The sort of targets the Tochka-Us and Iskanders would be aimed at.
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    Post  sepheronx Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:48 pm

    Hence why domacles pod was supposed to be licensed produced in Russia but not much has been said. Now with the one for Pak Fa being built, chances are Domacles is out of the equation and only future pod is to be used.
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    Post  Viktor Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:58 pm

    Three more Su-34 delivered to RuAF ! Excellent. 


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    Post  mack8 Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:37 pm

    Right so how many delivered this year so far, 10? 4 more to go ? This vid here, i see borts 01 and 03 in grey cammo (possibly 02 with them), if i'm not mistaken the "other" 01 and 03 at Lipetsk have blue cammo?
    http://www.otr-online.ru/news/18265.html
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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:48 am

    mack8 wrote:Right so how many delivered this year so far, 10? 4 more to go ? This vid here, i see borts 01 and 03  in grey cammo (possibly 02 with them), if i'm not mistaken the "other" 01 and 03 at Lipetsk have blue cammo?
    http://www.otr-online.ru/news/18265.html
    i think 7 have been delivered this year so far. (1+3+3)
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    Post  Viktor Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:08 pm

    mack8 wrote:Right so how many delivered this year so far, 10? 4 more to go ? This vid here, i see borts 01 and 03  in grey cammo (possibly 02 with them), if i'm not mistaken the "other" 01 and 03 at Lipetsk have blue cammo?
    http://www.otr-online.ru/news/18265.html
    Right. bort 01,02,03

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    Post  George1 Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:18 pm

    there are some info that another batch of Su-34s will be delivered next days in Voronezh
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    Post  calripson Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:11 am

    http://expert.ru/2013/12/5/pochti-sovetskij-temp/

    According to this article only 8 Su 34 will be delivered in 2013. I thought the plan was for 14. Also, only 3 Mi 35M and 8 Su 30 ? I thought more. Also, references 12 Su 35 and 19 Ka 52 in 2013.
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    Post  TR1 Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:54 am

    That article has many issues in general, I would not get too stuck up on the numbers.
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    Post  SOC Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:21 am

    George1 wrote:
    Viktor wrote:3 new Su-34 delivered to RuAF.welcome 

    Russian Air Force received another batch of Su-34 bombers
    32 now total. That means that the first order is completed. Now remain the second of 92 aircrafts

    Not unless more were delivered this year.

    Tracking all the deliveries since the 32 aircraft contract, the numbers do not add up to 32 jets.

    28 December 2010: 4 to Lipetsk 06, 07, 08, 09
    December 2011: 6 to Voronezh 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 10
    25 December 2012: 5 to Voronezh 11, 12, 20, 21, 22
    25 January 2013: 5 to Voronezh 23, 24, 25, 26, 27
    6 May 2013: 1 to Voronezh 34
    9 July 2013: 3 to Voronezh 28, 29, 30
    23 Octoober 2013: 3 to Morozovsk 01, 02, 03
    25 October 2013: 1 to Voronezh 31

    That's a total of 28 airframes. 4 to Lipetsk, 21 to Voronezh, and 3 to Morozovsk. The ones highlighted above and below are the "old" paintjob.

    Now, Lipetsk already had five Su-34s, delivered in 2006 (01, 02) and 2009 (03, 04, 05). That'd raise the totals to 33, but that doesn't fit with the contract; two were delivered in 2006, well before the contract was signed, so you'd end up with 31 delivered, and if those other three delivered in 2009 were already planned for prior to the contract they may not count either, so you're back down to 28. Basically there's either one or four more Su-34s to be delivered under the present deal.

    That, or there's an undocumented delivery someplace.

    Also, Bort 08 from Lipetsk, delivered in 2010, transferred to Voronezh by January 2013, as it's now seen on the ramp there. That leaves Lipetsk with 8 airframes, and 22 for Voronezh, with the other three delivered to Morozovsk. At one point Pogysin or someone in the MOD commented that deliveries in batches of 10 were basically entire squadrons. However, typical squadrons actually seem to be 12 jets. So, apart from there being a few missing airframes, Voronezh is either 1) getting two more for a total of 24, or 2) getting 8 more for a total of 30.
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    Post  mack8 Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:27 am

    I think there's a mysterious Su-34 bort 32 or 33 that wasn't tracked or hardly seen, at least that's what someone suggested. Wouldn't there be  a few Su-34s at Akthubinsk for weapons trials/ integration? Didn't bort 34 went to Akhtubinsk first?

    I'm pretty sure you must have been following this site SOC?
    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-8.html
    Comments here are always interesting:
    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/42524/
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    Post  SOC Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:59 am

    You'd still think the deliveries might've been announced with the publicity all the others received.

    Plus, if the 32-jet contract did not include the five delivered to Lipetsk in 2006/2009, 32/33 red still only gets the total to 30.
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    Post  George1 Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:06 pm

    we have 35 delivered so far
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    Post  Viktor Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:03 am

    Yes 35 is the right number. I read that first contract is over and after that few more Su-34 has been delivered. 

    Anyway 5 Su-34 is used for testing. 

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