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    Post  crod Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:24 pm

    Well israel and others will release any satellite footage if there was indeed anything behind that flash. We’ll know soon enough.
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    Post  nomadski Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:34 pm


    Not necessarily . Only if the Iranians choose to reveal . And they won't reveal unless they want to retaliate or escalate . And they won't retaliate if they have no nukes . If explosions were at higher altitude and small , then little evidence left . No impact crater . Radiation only clue , if fission device used . Not small fusion device . Well western satellites have these , as well as Russia ......

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    Post  lancelot Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:20 pm

    If Israel did nuke Iran you can bet Iran will get its own nukes.

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    Post  Arrow Fri Apr 19, 2024 7:24 pm

    Israel's nuclear strike on Iran is total nonsense.
    Every thermonuclear charge also has a fissionable charge inside it.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:03 pm

    lancelot wrote:If Israel did nuke Iran you can bet Iran will get its own nukes.

    Those will appear in a day, still smelling kimchi Laughing

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    Post  Hole Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:34 pm

    3 explosions have been reported in Iran's Isfahan region, home to critical nuclear facilities
    Trying to bomb nuclear facilities...
    Where did I see this happen in the past years?

    was destroyed in Syria.
    Syria had nothing to do with the counter strike against the Zionist regime.
    Maybe Iran should bomb Jordan next.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:46 pm

    This is what is known about the attack in Iran, which did not exceed 4 small drones shot down before hitting the target.


    ResistanceTrench mirror, [18/4/2024 23:21]
    🇮🇷⚡Iranian sources confirm that a number of mini-quadcopters were shot down over Isfahan.

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    ResistanceTrench mirror, [18/4/2024 23:26]
    🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡According to initial reports, the Israeli enemy tried to attack an airbase in Isfahan, which hosts Iranian F-14 fighters.

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    ResistanceTrench mirror, [18/4/2024 23:29]
    🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡Al-Mayadeen confirms that a number of explosions occurred in the airspace of Isfahan without any explosion on the ground.

    🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡Iranian sources confirm that no missile attack or airstrike took place in Isfahan, and only a few mini-quadcopters were intercepted near the airbase.

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    🇮🇷🇮🇱⚡Spokesman for the Iranian Space Agency confirmed that the air defenses successfully intercepted at least 3 targets in the sky of the city of Isfahan.


    🇮🇱🇮🇷⚡Al-Mayadeen: Air defenses dealt with targets several kilometers away from an oil refining facility in Tabriz and successfully intercepted all of them.

    🇮🇷🇮🇱 Iranian Space Agency spokesman Hossein Daliryan: “The downed quadcopters had a short range and were probably launched from Iranian territory.”

    Al-Mayadeen: There was no external aggression against Iran, and what is being spread in the media is a lie and an information and psychological attack. The American media are waging an information war, provoking Iran.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:49 pm

    ❗ Iran's nuclear facilities in Isfahan are absolutely safe, Iranian Tasnim and Fars news agencies reported.

    "The nuclear facility in Isfahan is completely safe. The report of some foreign media about the incident in this facility is incorrect," Fars news agency said.

    Iranian media published footage of a calm situation near Isfahan.

    https://t.me/geopolitics_live/21819

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:53 pm

    The morning explosions in Isfahan were related to air defense firing at targets in the sky above the city. No damage was caused and experts are investigating all the circumstances, said Sayyed Abdolrahim Mousavi, commander-in-chief of the Iranian army.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:56 pm

    The alleged Israeli retaliation only existed in the Western media and in the delirium of military forums, where they grab anything to give a scoop.

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    Post  ALAMO Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:19 pm

    Hole wrote:
    Syria had nothing to do with the counter strike against the Zionist regime.
    Maybe Iran should bomb Jordan next.

    Iranian officials already suggested the thing ...

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:19 am

    The Military Media - News broadcasting, [19/4/2024 07:59]
    #Enemy_Media

    Maariv newspaper: It was a sudden, short, and shocking transition, beginning on Saturday, October 7, 2023, at six-thirty in the morning. Within 24 hours, the time it took us to understand what had happened, "Israel" shifted from being an empire that couldn't be defeated, reveling in arrogance and superiority, to being defeated and besieged by a regional superpower. We have reached a situation where every party in the Middle East is using missiles and drones against us.

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    "Israel Hayom" newspaper: "Israel" faces a long series of security and political challenges, the complexity of dealing with them stems from a combination of five characteristics: the abundance of threats and challenges, their geographical distribution, the interconnections between them, the high cost of making mistakes regarding them, and the difficulty of prioritizing and dealing with them.

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    Post  Hole Sat Apr 20, 2024 1:45 am

    "Israel" faces a long series of security and political challenges, 
    Change your behavior.

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    Post  ALAMO Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:21 am

    The best summary of the Israeli 'retaliation strike" I have seen so far ...

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    Post  nomadski Sat Apr 20, 2024 3:45 am

    The various open source information offer a wide variety of scenarios on the Israeli response . These at one extreme suggest Israel attacked Syria and Iraq and also Iran , using F16 and missiles . The Israeli attack , some suggest involved hitting targets in PG , as well as half a dozen nuclear and military sites . At the other extreme , micro - drones were flown from inside Iran , forcing AD to open fire . But no attack from outside the country . I have found only three open source links , showing possible strikes . One I posted before by Hindustan Times , the two bright flashes , unlike conventional warheads . The other is a post , in another video , showing bright flashes from another angle . And last was posts on Mashregh news website , supposedly of witnesses , saying there were loud explosions !

    Unless there is independent verification , it looks like we can not rely on western sources or Iranian official sources to give us the facts . Both have reasons to keep quiet about this incident . But the least common denominator is that Syria and Iraq were attacked and Iran was also attacked ( at least by drones ) . Therefore Israelis have not learnt their lesson ! The slap did not work ! They will continue to attack the axis forces and Palestinians . The best part of this recent events , is that now Iran knows that it needs a nuclear deterrent and knows it will take more time to cut the Israelis to size , and will attack inside Israel !

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:22 am

    The Military Media - News broadcasting, [19/4/2024 12:27]
    The military analyst "Alon Ben David" - from the Hebrew newspaper "Maariv" - said:
    "The Iranians have entered another stage in the war against us, and it should be assumed that they are ready to risk a broader campaign. Therefore, any public" Israeli" reaction exposes us to the danger of engaging in an exchange of strikes with Iran, and perhaps even in a wide-scale war in the north. It goes without saying that launching a campaign against Iran or Hezbollah would close the door to the possibility of ending the war with Hamas in a way that "Israel" emerges victorious and imposes the death penalty on the detainees who are still alive."

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    The Military Media - News broadcasting, [19/4/2024 12:36]
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    Military analyst "Alon Ben David" - "Maariv" newspaper: The image of the sky reflected on the screens in the Air Force monitoring center on Saturday night and Sunday was unlike anything we have seen before in "Israel" or in the world. Hundreds of Iranian drones and cruise missiles made their way towards us at low altitude, with dozens of Air Force aircraft flying above them, along with dozens of other Air Force aircraft. In the upper layer, there were over a hundred ballistic missiles, and in front of them were dozens of "Israeli" interceptive missiles. It was a "Doomsday" scenario, as defined by one of the "Israeli" officers.

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    The Military Media - News broadcasting, [19/4/2024 12:38]
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    Military analyst "Alon Ben David" - "Maariv" Hebrew newspaper: During the Iranian attack, moments of fear passed through the air bases that were targeted by missiles, and thousands of soldiers entered protected areas, wondering whether the concrete layers surrounding them would withstand the impact of heavy missiles.

    #Military_Media

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:30 am

    The downed quadcopters over the Iranian city of Isfahan did not cause any material or physical damage, Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian said in New York.

    “[Israel’s] supporters in the media tried in vain to turn their latest defeat into a victory and exaggerate the whole situation, while the downed quadcopters did not cause any material or physical damage,” the Iranian top diplomat asserted.

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    Post  Airbornewolf Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:55 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote:

    The Military Media - News broadcasting, [19/4/2024 12:38]
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    Military analyst "Alon Ben David" - "Maariv" Hebrew newspaper: During the Iranian attack, moments of fear passed through the air bases that were targeted by missiles, and thousands of soldiers entered protected areas, wondering whether the concrete layers surrounding them would withstand the impact of heavy missiles.

    #Military_Media

    No, unless you are in an fortified, sealed proper bunker that is designed against blast/overpressure.
    And these are usually not build in large numbers on bases.
    Some command bunker's do, but the common grunts usually have to make do with some reinforced concrete constructions.

    depending on the ordnance intensity,
    the shockwaves will damage your organs, starting with your brain.
    Depending on the level of exposure there are some pretty horrifying ways to meet your end.

    If an Iranian BM lands near your shelter, you might think you have survived it with minor wounds.
    Just for you to start to choke on your own blood as your lungs suffered heavy damage by the overpressure.
    Might happen shortly after, or maybe during the two days following this.

    There is a whole list of how can affect you, if you google blast injuries you can find some nasty information on this.

    Overpressure/shockwave is often not really the first thing people think about when imagining things that can kill you in war. And it is a pretty horrifying one. It affects everyone in that area equally, so...yes it is a group experience so to say.

    Shelters do not exactly move around a base, and Iran has shown their missiles are accurate.
    So you can get an idea of what an bloodbath it would cause if Iran would target their missiles this way.

    That said, you can imagine what the ordnance of Russia falling on Ukrainian trenches is doing to the Ukrainians. TOS-1A's, KAB's, Tornado,UR-77 and the likes.

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    Post  Hole Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:05 am

    there were over a hundred ballistic missiles
    Nope.  No
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    Post  Belisarius Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:51 am

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    Post  kvs Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:14 am

    Either the Israeli counter attack is a head fake or Iran has nukes already.

    If there is more serious action in the coming days, then it is not likely that the latter is true.

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    Post  nomadski Sat Apr 20, 2024 12:16 pm



    Where is the response ?


    https://www.ft.com/content/56064051-e880-43db-b7e9-a56717c8c38b


    I discounted a missile , because the payload would be inadequate to damage bunkers with conventional warheads . This may explain attempt at hitting surface targets . Strange white flash .......



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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Apr 20, 2024 6:38 pm

    That alleged israeli missile which found in Iraq is around 140 km away from Iranian borders.

    Even if the warhead has reached Iran it would fall inside the mountains area , seems israel has no real projection power against targets in Iran and we still talking about single response , what if it was a full war ?

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    Post  Isos Sat Apr 20, 2024 7:09 pm

    There can't be any real war between Israel and Iran. Only missile launches.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:39 pm

    Isos wrote:There can't be any real war between Israel and Iran. Only missile launches.

    If Iran wanted to, it could transfer thousands of men to Syria and Lebanon, to attack Israel from there.
    So far, what he has done is use a small number of advisors.


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